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Re: ABLE UK LICENCE ISSUED/CLEMENCEAU
« Reply #240 on: October 28, 2008, 09:50:08 AM »
Local news reports that an application to move the vessel in accordance with waste shipments regulations has been submitted:
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Petition-launched-to-stop-Le.4635184.jp

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« Reply #241 on: October 28, 2008, 06:35:06 PM »
Hi All,

'North East Tonight' this evening had a quick story on the Clem, at the end it said ABLE hope to have it here by the end of November.

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« Reply #242 on: October 28, 2008, 06:55:29 PM »
Yes it is very good news to hear that the French have put applications in, for the Clem to move to Hartlepool.

But Im am fuming that the protestors are in the town centre getting petitions signed.

If I wasn't busy with work I would be down there with petitions to support the proposals. lol

This is one reason why I have have set up the supporters Groups on Facebook & flickr. So please spread the word. Im wondering if it is worth putting the groups forward into the media. lol

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« Reply #243 on: October 29, 2008, 06:17:58 PM »
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I Dont know what is happening to  the scrap metal prices , Cawky


Hi Brian

Found this piece on the Net - gives the view point from Bangladesh where as you will know many ships end their lives:

http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=61015
Prices of steel, materials down
Kawsar Khan

Rods are being carried to a construction site. The price of 40-grade MS (mild steel) rod now stands at Tk 40,000 a tonne in the local market, while the cost of 60-grade steel rod is around Tk 58,000. Photo: STAR
Prices of steel and its raw materials have fallen sharply in the local market on the international market price-drop resulted from the construction work slumps globally in the wake of the ongoing recession.

The sector people think the construction market slumps coupled with the fall in demand for their produces now cost them dearly.

They also blamed the slow pace of the government's annual development programme (ADP) for the slide in local demand.

Official data shows only 9 per cent of the Tk 256 billion ADP has been implemented during July-September period of the current fiscal (2008-09).

In the local market, breakable ship was selling around US$250 a tonne and scrap around $380 a tonne yesterday, which were $600 and $700 two months back.

They are to sell the items at a rate 30-50 percent below the production and import costs, which is leading them to a vulnerable situation, according to manufacturers and importers.

They said the price of 40-grade MS (mild steel) rod stands at Tk 40,000 a tonne in the local market, while the cost of 60-grade steel rod is around Tk 58,000.

"The products that we are selling at lower rates were imported at higher prices earlier. But the price-drop in the international market has forced us to sell the products at a loss," said Alihussain Akberali, chairman and managing director of BSRM, the largest steel bar manufacturer in the country.

Asked about the reason why they were selling their produces at a rate below the cost of production, Alihussain said it was a natural market trend that they had to hike prices in advance when international prices went high and vise versa.

"We have no control over the international market, but the government can save us by accelerating its ADP implementation pace, which will result in the rise in local demand for steel bars," said Masudul Haque Masud, general secretary of Bangladesh Re-Rolling Mills Association.

Meanwhile, the ship breakers' association recently sent a letter to the Ministry of Industries where it pointed out that the ship breakers, who have a stock of around 10 lakh tones, are losing around Tk 10,000 by selling scrap at the present market price.

In a separate letter sent to the Chief Adviser, Bangladesh Steel Mill Owners Association said the sector would loss around Tk 1,000 crore by selling their 5 lakh tonnes reserved MS rod.

The steel mill owners and ship breakers urged the government to provide strong support to face the tough situation.

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Re: ABLE UK LICENCE ISSUED/CLEMENCEAU
« Reply #244 on: November 01, 2008, 02:13:34 PM »
Environment Agency

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/commondata/acrobat/5aceupdate_2077846.pdf
(1st July 2008)
Chief Executive's Update On Key Topics

Towards the bottom of page 6, section 11 is about updates to Able UK.

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« Reply #245 on: November 04, 2008, 12:38:06 AM »
I have just been going through the Tees Alliance Group Ltd (TAG) website.
http://www.teesag.com/

A very interesting read, with modules for the Oban B rig being transported out of the assembley hall at Haverton Hill. While reading about the Oban B, the hull for the rig is being built in Russia and to arrive onto the Tees in the first quarter of 2009, for assembly of the top structures to take place before sea going testing once complete before handover to Seadragon.

What strikes me is on the TAG website (under facilities) highlights TERRC. The Graythorp Facility is a deep water integration and decomissioning facility.


So thinking back to my mate who said there was another Rig coming to TERRC. Adding 2 and 2 together, is making me think that this other Rig is going to be the Oban B and integration work done at Graythorp.

Is this with my placing of various bits of information linked into my mate's comment, fitting into the correct jigsaw or am I trying to fit it into the wrong jigsaw.

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« Reply #246 on: November 04, 2008, 01:04:22 AM »
From the HSE

Chronology of events in case of Able UK exemption to Asbestos (Prohibitions) Regulations

http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/hscarchive/2003/091203/misc36a.pdf

Information regarding Ghost Ships. Emails between UK and USA.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/releases/ghostships.pdf


From the Health and Safety Commission

Cross- Government initiative on ship recycling
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/hscarchive/2004/071204/c137.pdf


Minutes from HSC meeting 5th August 2003. Able UK section 6 in the minutes.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/hscarchive/2003/160903/cm08.pdf

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« Reply #247 on: November 04, 2008, 01:30:38 AM »
HSE links for Clemenceau

Press Release
http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2008/gnnne24508.htm

HSE Board Meeting 17th July 2008. Able UK top of page 2.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/hseboard/2008/170708/b38.pdf

HSE Board Meeting 18th June 2008. Able UK bottom of page 2/ top page 3.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/hseboard/2008/180608/b31.pdf

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« Reply #248 on: November 04, 2008, 01:44:07 AM »
Can't believe I have just read a news report that had people showing their support for the Clem coming to the UK.
http://www.dawn.com/2008/07/02/int17.htm

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Re: ABLE UK LICENCE ISSUED/CLEMENCEAU
« Reply #249 on: November 04, 2008, 01:59:19 AM »
Bringing up an old new story from the Hartlepool Mail.
Able UK: "Wrangle has cost

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« Reply #250 on: November 06, 2008, 09:35:09 AM »
Hello to all

Today, the newspaper Ouest-France announces that the ex--Clemenceau, would be unfit any more to be towed and that France could have a plan(shot) B for her.

See details here:

http://www.brest.maville.com/actu/actudet_-Ex-Clemenceau-le-mysterieux-plan-B-de-la-Marine-_loc-740517_actu.Htm

Good day to all.

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« Reply #251 on: November 06, 2008, 10:00:19 AM »
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Hello to all

Today, the newspaper Ouest-France announces that the ex--Clemenceau, would be unfit any more to be towed and that France could have a plan(shot) B for her.

See details here:

http://www.brest.maville.com/actu/actudet_-Ex-Clemenceau-le-mysterieux-plan-B-de-la-Marine-_loc-740517_actu.Htm

Good day to all.

Michel


Rough English Translation of article:

Ex-Clemenceau: mysterious plan B of Navy

Is there a resolution of spare if the ancient aircraft carriers cannot rally Great Britain? Officially, no. What does not exclude semiofficial contacts.

Will leave, will leave not? The fate of the ex-Clemenceau is hanging in the decision which will take English justice. The Court Of appeal of London will examine November 13th of this year appeal introduces by the association Friends of Hartlepool. His judgement should be rather quick.
But and then they learn that the ex-Clemenceau, or rather cockle Q790, would not be in a fit state any more to take back the sea! " Ex-Clemenceau takes water by the sheeting of cockle and sternpost. This ship cannot therefore be towed any more in complete safety towards the parking of old ships in Hartelpool called for the circumstance

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Re: ABLE UK LICENCE ISSUED/CLEMENCEAU
« Reply #252 on: November 08, 2008, 07:48:36 AM »

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« Reply #253 on: November 08, 2008, 09:25:43 AM »
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More comments about the ex-Clemenceau here :

http://www.letelegramme.com/gratuit/generales/economie/ex-clemenceau-la-coque-ne-vaut-plus-un-clou-20081108-4131771_1525452.php.

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Hi Michel

The article discusses the falling cost of scrap metal and whether it is economical for Able UK to demolish the vessel given the fact that the money paid to the French Government was based on 2007 prices.

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Re: ABLE UK LICENCE ISSUED/CLEMENCEAU
« Reply #254 on: November 08, 2008, 11:46:23 AM »
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More comments about the ex-Clemenceau here :

http://www.letelegramme.com/gratuit/generales/economie/ex-clemenceau-la-coque-ne-vaut-plus-un-clou-20081108-4131771_1525452.php.

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A translation:-
Reception> Economy  
Economy      

Ex-Clemenceau. Cockle is not worth a nail anymore
Is it lucrative of d

 

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