ABLE UK LICENCE ISSUED/CLEMENCEAU

[Brian Cawkwell]

excellent topic , now 22 pages long , lets keep this one going.

[JonHare]

Able UK's press release about the High Court verdict.
http://www.ableuk.com/pressreleases.shtml

[JonHare]

Just been looking around on the web about the Clem and Able UK.

I came across this little gem. Back from July
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4249526.ece

It is not the story that was humorous. It is in the comments that have made me laugh.

[JonHare]

A couple from the letters page of the Hartlepool Mail

Disposing of asbestos
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/letters/Disposing-of-asbestos.4550350.jp

Questions answered regarding asbestos
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/letters/Questions-answered-regarding-asbestos.4556107.jp

[JonHare]

Things seemed to have gone quiet on this front. Anyone have any updates as regard to the Clem. As if she is due at TERRC early November, I would think she will be setting sail within the next fortnight at least.



I have been doing some searching the net to see if I could find any more info, but as yet not a lot already known.

One news page story that I have just found regarding the Clem is:
http://www.fairhome.co.uk/2008/07/03/ship-too-toxic-for-india-sent-to-uk/
http://www.recycle.co.uk/news/756000.html

A nice areial shot of TERRC with the story.
http://www.baird-online.com/index.php?id=868CB8BBF3FD4274CA25748000264021&pid=0119A640BE91D10FCA257268001AE4BF

Another story on that site shows why Able UK's TERRC facility is so important.
http://www.baird-online.com/index.php?id=6F14AF997F4FEE79CA2574DD0003183E&pid=0119A640BE91D10FCA257268001AE4BF

http://living.aol.co.uk/homes-and-property/go-green/firm-to-dismantle-toxic-ship/article/20080702044109990004


A couple of interesting Documents from a couple of years ago, which highlighted the confusion that surrounded Able UK's TERRC plans.

DEFRA Committee Inquiry Into US "Ghost Ships"
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/commondata/acrobat/efra_com_evidence_630119.pdf

Environment Agency- US NAVAL VESSELS- Lessons Learnt Review (from April 2004)
http://www.defra.gov.uk/Environment/waste/topics/hazwaste/usnavalships-reviews/pdf/ea-review.pdf

[JonHare]

I have been googl'ing the net and came across this site. It is in French.
http://www.netmarine.net/bat/porteavi/clem/departoulon.htm

There are plenty of pics of the Clem of the past few years. At the bottom of the page there is a mention of the update regarding the Clem to be scrapped in England by Able UK.


Also this story of Heerema completing 1st phase of NW Hutton removal
http://www.oilpubs.com/oso/article.asp?v1=7775

[Nathan]

Hi all,

A update on the carrier, thanks to MichBriez!

The tug, 'Anglian Earl' will be the tug bringing her down. Here is the story along with a picture (in French): Click here.

Regards

[Guest]

coatham wrote:
Hi all,

A update on the carrier, thanks to MichBriez!

The tug, 'Anglian Earl' will be the tug bringing her down. Here is the story along with a picture (in French): Click here.

Regards

Hi Nathan

'Loose Translation' using an online translator is:

Preparations are under way for the ultimate trip of the ancient aircraft carriers towards England. The tug Anglian Earl will be made responsible for bringing it to good harbour.

Unless an inversion of last minute situation, the ex-Clemenceau will join very England shortly. The Klyne Tugs de Lowestoft society, in Suffolk, is loaded with the operation of towing.

On Wednesday, his technicians were present in Brest. They examined the ex-Clemenceau to cause technical means to implement to tow it.

The tug Anglian Earl will take care of the ancient aircraft carriers. The operation of towing for the English construction site should last four days.

Constructed in Netherlands in 1987 under the name of Maersk Logger for the Danish company Maersk, Anglian Earl is a solid tug of open sea, anchoring and provision. Along 69,70 m, equipped with 2 motors Mak of a complete potency of 12 000 horses, he shows a force of traction in the fixed point of 140 tonnes.

Founded in 1892, the Klyne Tugs society refers in the world of towing very as Honeybees. It was kept by British Coastguards to help ships in trouble. Four of his tugs are permanently positioned in strategical places around the sides of United Kingdom.

On the side of the naval prefecture of Atlantic, they confirm that jobs are under way with the aim of the equipment of Q790, official name of the ancient aircraft carriers. It is a question of installing electricity aboard, fires of navigation or else GPS.

Clem' will perform its last trip for the construction site of dismantling of INDUSTRIALIST ABLE UK, located near Hartlepool, in the northeast of the country.

In what date will the ancient aircraft carriers leave Brest?

[JonHare]

Looks like the women are putting another stumbling block in the way of the Clem arrival.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/New-bid-in-ghost-warship.4606171.jp

Peter Stephenson is saying it looks like they will be targeting the end of November to bring the Clem over.


Sounds good enough for me as I'm off the last week of November/ first few days in December.  
;-)  :lol:

[Guest]

JonHare wrote:
Looks like the women are putting another stumbling block in the way of the Clem arrival.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/New-bid-in-ghost-warship.4606171.jp

Peter Stephenson is saying it looks like they will be targeting the end of November to bring the Clem over.


Sounds good enough for me as I'm off the last week of November/ first few days in December.  
;-)  

Hi Jon

This piece from this mornings Northern Echo doesn't sound too hopeful for an early delivery of the AC to the Tees - after all the wheels of justice turn slowly!

Courtesy of http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/3773617.Court_of_Appeal_to_hear_French_ship_case/

'Court of Appeal to hear French ship case

1:57pm Monday 20th October 2008

Plans to allow an asbestos-contaminated French aircraft carrier into the UK for dismantling are to be challenged in the Court of Appeal.

The Clemenceau, once the flagship of the French navy, was considered too toxic for Indian breakers yards and is now destined for Graythorp, near Hartlepool, Co Durham, to be broken up by Able UK.

But campaign group Friends of Hartlepool (FOH), acting through lawfirm Public Interest Lawyers, has won the right to challenge a High Court decision which allowed the project to go ahead.

No date has been set for the appeal hearing, but the ship is expected to remain in France until the case has been decided.

Jean Kennedy, of FOH, said lawyers would argue that the decision of the Health and Safety Executive to allow the importation of the Clemenceau and its carcinogenic cargo was unlawful.

Solicitor Gavin Sullivan said: We have asked Able UK to undertake not to take any steps to import this ship into Hartlepool until the court has made its decision.

Obviously, should Able seek to try to bring this ship from France regardless, we will consider seeking directions from the court to prevent them from doing so.

Iris Ryder, another member of FOH, said: This is a fantastic result for the people of Hartlepool and takes us one step closer to preventing this toxic waste from being imported and dumped in our community.

People and groups on both sides of the Channel are rightly asking serious questions about the safety of Ables proposals.

The Clemenceau, now known as Hull Q790, is estimated to contain 760 tonnes of asbestos and 330 tonnes of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs).

It has been docked off the port of Brest in France since 2006 when the French government called it back from India in the wake of widespread protests.'

Regards

[JonHare]

Hartlepool Mail

Ghost Ship campaign stepped up
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Ghost-ship-campaign-stepped-up.4608566.jp

The protestors told the Mail they were delighted with the support they received and hoped civic leaders would take notice of the strength of feeling for their cause.

Do these people really underdstand what they are talking about. In Hartlepool the majority of the residents back Able UK's proposals.

Environmental Groups including Greenpeace & Friends of the Earth are also behind Able UK's plans.

I would love to attend a meeting with these people who think they know everything.

Which groups either side of the Channel have concerns and Questions over Able UK's plans. You will find that there are hardly any major groups against the plans but are FOR.

Oh my blood is boiling again other their delay tactics. I think Im going to set up a TERRC supporters group up on Facebook. Im sure there will be loads joining to support.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[JonHare]

I have just set up the group on Facebook, please join and voice your support for Able UK's plans.

Supporters of Able UK's plans for scrapping ships & marine structures
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41463439065&ref=mf

Teesside Environmental Reclamation & Recycling Centre (TERRC), Graythorp Yard, Hartlepool.

This group has been set up to allow people who back Able UK's plans for safe and environmentally friendly scrapping and refurbishing of Ships & Marine structures at its Graythorp Yard on the outskirts of Hartlepool.

This facility will provide safe and environmental centre for scrapping of Ships and Marine structures. The benefits will also help the need for ships heading to other places in the world to be ran ashore onto a beach and scrapped. Thus TERRC will helping to protect the natural environment, with its dry dock facility to scrap ships and marine structures without causing pollution or harming the Natural Environment.

The plans when in full operation will give the local and regional economies of the North East of England a great boost. With loads of jobs and spin off jobs being created, with the current economic downturn.


So please join up and show your support to the safe and environmental friendly facility for dismatling Ships & Marine structures.

[Brian Cawkwell]

I Dont know what is happening to  the scrap metal prices , but today I had a job to remove 16 roller shutters and then make good to the surroundig area. 4 weaks ago I did a similiar job and remove 12 shutters of exact same size, to get shot of the shutters I decided to weigh them in at the local scrap recycling centre Scrap yard) I received the sum of

[JonHare]

There is a pile of scrap behind the two main towers of the rig sections, looks to be from the gutting of the insides of the rig sections.

From what I have heard is that China has dramtically reduced its import of scrap. Which could tie in with less demand after building of the Olympic Games. And that they have cancelled a number of imports of scrap even those that are on route.

Also tie this into the current economic downturn with large amount of uncertainty has helped fuel the dramatic fall in the price of scrap.

Worlwide economics are very unstable in the current period.

Also one person has said that the prices are getting to a stage where you will have to pay the Scrapman to scrap something. This thinking could actually help Able UK.

But just thinking is that all these uninformed protestors actions in delaying TERRC hasn't helped, as Able UK have missed the boat so to speak in the record scrap price levels. If they were able to start well before now they could of done a whole load of ships, helping the local economy with a huge boost.

[Brian Cawkwell]

Hi Jon,

The man on the weighbridge did say to me that  the next time I go back he will be probably  paying me in balloons!
Regards