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Thanks all,
strange thing is it is intermitent.... second time it has happened.
Next time I go to town I shall take this laptop and hook into some free wifi somewhere and see what happens...

I live in 'the bush' and don't have fibre optic to the node...whatever that may be.
My normal way of aquiring internet involves a dish on the roof.... from there my bits and bobs go to the 'Skymuster' satellite and it comes to earth somewhere in Sydney and carries on its merry way.

Twice I have been locked out of this site...getting this.... 'Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.'

Its currently been going on for three or four days. No other sites affected... just Shipspotters.
If I use my phone  as a hotspot - as I am just now -  it goes via a tower on a nearby hill and is fine.

Any thoughts?

Hello David,
thanks for the clarification.

There are rather a lot of small ships operating in the waters south of Puerto Montt towards Cape Horn.
Many of these are serving as small roll on roll off passenger ships and ferries such as the ones crossing Canal Chacao  between mainland Chile and Isla Chiloe. Many are carrying cargo to outlying settlements and remore islands.....
Both these types are what I would call 'landing craft' or 'landing barges' and in spanish are called 'barcazas' or simple translation .. 'barges'.  However they would not fit in the Shipspotting 'barges' classification.

Many of the others are what at first glance most would call simply 'coasters' ... in fact many are coasters that have been inported from Northern Europe. However there seems to be no 'coaster' category nor one for ships serving the fishing industry and in Chile they are simply classified as 'motor naves' or motor ships.

So.... how should these photos be classified?

To get an idea of the numbers of ships involved just in the fishing trade lookee here...

And also.... seeing the note in an earlier post about tramp ships.

Andrew Weir ...the king of the cross trades... established two services in the early 20th century.... Australasia/Chile and Peru and India/South Africa/West coast south america.

They were wound up at the end of the 70s but they managed to lose the Levernbank on the Peruvian coast in 1974.

An earlier true tramping trade that probably ceased to be in the 1930s was coal from Newcastle, N.S.W. to the Nitrate Coast ( northern Chile and Peru ) with ships then loading nitrates for Europe.

About the time you are interested some large container ships would go around the Horn when bound Australia and/or New Zealand to Northern Europe. This was not on account of their size but simply to avoid the canal dues. But they would go direct without stopping in South America.

Bigger ships going from the west coast  of the continent  towards the Atlantic would typically do the same.. mind you the largest ship I have seen in the Strait is the USS George Washington.
Much of the traffic through the strait is smaller tonnage  up to say 50,000 tons and representing all classes of ship. It is pilotage waters.

Hello Michael,
I responded to your query over on 'Cruisers Forum'  under my Patagonian 'nom de plume' ... El Ping

I am having upload problems at the present time

Maybe 'harbour overviews' should be changed to 'harbour views'... a requirement being that the photo should show something of historic or other significance.

For instance .... I have a rather nice pic of a liberty ship unloading bagged grain in Cochin... can't identify the liberty but it shows a way of life and cargo work  long gone even on the subcontinent.


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