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Offline davidships

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Older Dutch inland vessels
« on: March 02, 2024, 01:55:13 AM »
Although I do not undersand much about it, before (and it seems overlapping with) the IVR/ENI numbering, there was another system - I thnk called the "Brand" which was seemingly more port related.  Is there an explanation of this system somewhere (in Dutch is fine so long as I can let Dr Google loose on it)?
Is it possible to "decode" these?  Were there ever registers for them?

For example, with an apparent port of registry of Amsterdam, this former Dutch barge has "795 BLIED 1929"
I suppose that 1929 is when she was built or registered, but I do not understand the rest: https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3683365


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Re: Older Dutch inland vessels
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2024, 06:07:06 PM »
Here is something that possibly explains everything but Dr. Google will be having a hard nut to crack.

https://www.ssrp.nl/stamboek/scheepsregistratie

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Re: Older Dutch inland vessels
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2024, 01:23:52 AM »
Apologies for late reply.
You were right about Dr Google's abilities, but  there is some good stuff in there - something additional to play with :-\

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Re: Older Dutch inland vessels
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2024, 06:41:43 AM »
Hello friend davidships I would love to help but for that I need you to give me a more precise location of where the ship is located.

Can you give me a location on google maps if it is not too much trouble.


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Re: Older Dutch inland vessels
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2024, 01:32:50 PM »
The mentioned 795 BLIED 1929 is in fact 795 B LIED 1929, LIED is the town Leiden in the Netherlands, 1929 the year the vessel was built.
Archive of the “Scheepsmetingsdienst” shows for this registration: NIEUWE ZORG, built 1929 by yard H. Haring at Boskoop, 21.05 x 4.15 m.
Because Boskoop is close to Leiden, Leiden was the district for measurement of the vessel.
See: https://s2ho.nl/LSD/top/common/Q_Details.php?Meetcode=Ga2310N
The vessel was during her lifespan measured / remeasured three times, latest length was 27 m and registered as pleasure vessel (“weekend house boat”).
Further research for others vessels here: https://s2ho.nl/LSD/top/common/ZoekInLiggers_01.php
But difficult to understand, even for Dutchmen.
In case you have some more mystery codes like 795 BLIED 1929, please send me a PM or e-mail.
Regards, Pieter Inpijn
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Re: Older Dutch inland vessels
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2024, 02:22:48 PM »
A belated thankyou, Pieter_I.  With this, building on the links from Pieter_M, and your detailed response on VAGABOND at https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3365386 , I will have a go using these tools with the next one I come to.  I think that I may come to the main difficulties in translating the manuscript text on the data cards.  I will let you know how I get on in due course.
Thanks again to you both.

 

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