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Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« on: January 15, 2021, 04:38:57 PM »
Some suspected materials with No true author, no rights described to be listed here time to time.

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NOVOBATAYSK - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3248163
https://ok.ru/rybakiprim/album/57881803620405/837021869365

KARL LIBKNEKHT - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3248452
https://ok.ru/murmanrybp/album/911241905037/911242245517

YUKON - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3248619
https://ok.ru/murmanrybp/album/50865772822669/834331363469

SREDNEURALSK - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3247251
https://ok.ru/rybakiprim/album/57881805193269/834381616693

VESTNIK - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3248617
https://ok.ru/murmanrybp/album/50865772822669/834331362957

VOGULKA - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3248618
https://ok.ru/murmanrybp/album/50865772822669/834331365005

KOMSOMOLSK-NA AMURE - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3249149
described as Copyrighted!
https://ok.ru/morskiesud?st.layer.cmd=PopLayerClose
https://fleetphoto.ru/photo/348179/?vid=89398

MGACHI - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3248068
https://ok.ru/rybakiprim/album/57923076685877/867248503605

MONGUGAI - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3247062
https://ok.ru/rybakiprim/album/57881803620405/834441190453

OKTANT - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3247075
https://ok.ru/rybakiprim/album/57881803620405/834386319413

ALEKSEY GENERALOV - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3247183
https://ok.ru/rybakiprim/album/880704983093/883722186293






« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 10:21:07 PM by 3SX »

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ??? - still on the site
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2021, 05:26:44 PM »
Are we going to keep discussing it over & over or something that should have been done long ago shall be done now? This site is for photographers to proudly share their photos & for members that own copyright or have legit permission to post here not own photos.
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Denis

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ??? - still on the site
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2021, 05:47:58 PM »
Agreed Denis. We don't need another thread on this.

However, please don't clink on any of the Russian links.........I've just tried one, and got virus warning messages. They may be infected. Perhaps to protect members, this thread should be removed.


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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2021, 09:14:52 AM »
This is getting silly now, and needs to stop. Lets turn this on it's head.......does 3SX or Denis or anyone else have any evidence that the OP DOES NOT have permission to post any of these photographs? If they do it should be sent privately to the Webmaster. If not, then shut up!!!!

Otherwise we will get to the stage where every photograph is suspect, and everyone will have to produce evidence that they hold the copyright to every photograph that is posted.

Some of the exchanges recently on both the forum, and in photo comments, about both copyright issues, and photograph quality issues. have contributed to me, at least temporarily, stopping posting any photographs. The site is changing from a friendly one where everyone could share their photographs, to an unpleasant one, where everything is disputed and criticised.

Perhaps it's Covid lockdowns, but there is too much nastiness on the site at the moment.

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2021, 12:21:36 PM »
And many of the photos in question are of such poor quality that in days gone by they would not have been allowed on the site.It would seem that "anything goes" on this site nowadays. Shame that!

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2021, 12:57:46 PM »
If the poster has permission, and there are no copyright issues, and you have not established that there are, I see no problem. They are probably more interesting than the 389th shot of Emma Maersk, however good that shot is. A few years ago a member obtained permission from a museum in Vancouver to post from their archives on here. The then webmaster was happy with that, and some excellent and interesting photographs were posted. But the hassle that the member go from a few other members, who just wouldn't accept that, caused him to stop.

The issue from the particular member you refer to has been going on for some time, yet it's significant that the Webmaster as not stopped it, perhaps this is a similar situation. Neither does there seem to be wide spread unease from other members.

As regards the quality of the photographs, if they meet the site standards as applied by the Admins, there is no problem. Most seem to be accepted on that basis. Those that don't meet site standards are deleted.

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2021, 02:41:00 PM »
Well said Simonwp
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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2021, 03:34:47 PM »
So far I have refrained from commenting on any of the many topics posted and comments on specific pictures as well.
But hey, why don't we just post pictures that we took with our own camera's.
Isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about.....?
Simon I do think the questions raised by other members are somehow valid, no matter how interesting some old pictures can be.
This site is not a reference / archive site where pictures can be found of every ship ever sailed. Though some people are using this site for that purpose as a matter of fact.
I do, however, think if you inherited some pictures, let's say from your farther or family member, that you should be allowed to post it, else post your own pictures.
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Roy
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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2021, 04:45:57 PM »
Maybe I'm a bit of an oddball but I think I'd rather look at the 387th pic (its better than the 389th) of EMMA MAERSK than some grainy old b/w photo of a Soviet fishing boat (with or without questionable copyright). Just my preference. Don't mind looking at GOOD photos of Soviet trawlers, though. In fact I have photographed a couple myself.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2021, 04:54:03 PM by Bob Scott »

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2021, 06:51:48 PM »
Maybe I'm a bit of an oddball but I think I'd rather look at the 387th pic (its better than the 389th) of EMMA MAERSK than some grainy old b/w photo of a Soviet fishing boat (with or without questionable copyright). Just my preference. Don't mind looking at GOOD photos of Soviet trawlers, though. In fact I have photographed a couple myself.

there is currently only one interesting shot of an Emma Maersk on site...

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=492153

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2021, 07:17:22 PM »
Pieter: you are  biased because a) You are not so young and b): you are a tanker man.
Similarly, I would rather look at MAGLEBY MAERSK - not the Triple-E but this one: http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2339477.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2021, 08:00:05 PM by Bob Scott »

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2021, 07:52:51 PM »
Pieter: you are  biased because a) You are not so young and b): you are a tanker man.
Similarly, I would tather look at MAGLEBY MAERSK - not the Triple-E but this one: http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2339477.

I have added another Emma Maersk, not previosuly shown here.

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2021, 07:57:13 PM »
The first photo i posted on site had already been on site for 10 years, stolen from my personal website.

There have been a number of others, and possibly more that i have not yet seen.

I can not prove that everything i post is mine, only i know it is, but how can i prove it?

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Re: Copyright infringed, stolen, plagiat photos ???
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2021, 08:02:46 AM »
anyone else have any evidence that the OP DOES NOT have permission to post any of these photographs?
Simon, the Poster clearly mention no permission, what more evidences required?

Photo by Chief Mate means NO Permission.
Photo by Seamen means NO permission.
Photo by Natan means NO permission.

Photo by Natan posted with a Permission means a Permission.

If the poster has permission, and there are no copyright issues

Excellent, let's this poster describe as all others do he has a Permission ( by the way this is required by the site rules).

Since he mention it's his problem with FBI, IIA, IP etc. and the site will not be blocked in case of claim.

 

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