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# Cisco

Thank you so much for providing all this intel. Much appreciated...

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Quote
British flag.... port of registry of CNco ships was London despite being a Hong Kong company
The China Navigation Co Ltd is a UK-registered company (with a very low company number 00006005, registered 31/01/1872) based at Swire House, London.
Of course it is has a large operating branch in Hong Kong, and no doubt many local subsidiaries.
Now I know... ;)

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Help and Advice / 1982 sailing schedules from Western Australia
« on: March 20, 2021, 02:56:52 PM »
Hi there,


Do you know the Leandros (IMO 7819400) and the Gladiator (IMO: 6510227)?


They were two argentinian ships sailing from Western Australia (possibly Fremantle, Kwinana or Bunbury) to Argentina (Puerto Madryn) in the eighties.


Actually, I was told that but I need it to be confirmed. Thus I'm looking for some archives where I could find their schedules for the beginning of 1982.


Would you know if some newspapers or gazettes would hold 1982 sailing schedules from Western Australia ports and whether they would have digitized them?


Thanks for your help,


Michael

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Hi Cisco,

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.

 :)

Michael

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Hi Cisco,

Thanks for the reply and please pardon my ignorance but, what was their flag then? British, HK, Australia?

Mike

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About shipping lines with Australia (circa 1980), see page 15 (ASIAN JADE  & ASIAN PEARL) :
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-2498367294/view?sectionId=nla.obj-2568396041&partId=nla.obj-2499824990#page/n13/mode/1up
Regards,
Yvon

Hi Yvon,

Thanks a lot for the link.
I precisely wanted to post on the Australian Enterprise and the Australian Explorer and here they are alongside the Asian Pearl and the Asian Jade.  
Your help is really very valuable.

Michael

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Hi there,

Is there anyone here who would know about ships sailing from Hong Kong to Australia in the second half of 1981?

I was told that most vessels used to go to Western Australia (especially Fremantle), but were there others going to other territories (Darwin, Brisbane and so on) ? and which ones or what kind of vessels then?

Waiting for your replies,

Cheers,

Michael

Dear all,

I was told that the Asian Pearl (wikiswire.com/wiki/Asian_Pearl) and the Asian Jade (wikiswire.com/wiki/Asian_Jade) sailed those routes at that time.

Would you know more about them?

Thanks,

Michael

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# Yvon

Thanks for the tip. I'll do that.  ;)

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Hi Frank,

Thanks for your reply,

I'll check on those companies, but if you have more intel, I'm all ears.

Cheers,

Michael

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Hi there,

Is there anyone here who would know about ships sailing from Hong Kong to Australia in the second half of 1981?

I was told that most vessels used to go to Western Australia (especially Fremantle), but were there others going to other territories (Darwin, Brisbane and so on) ? and which ones or what kind of vessels then?

Waiting for your replies,

Cheers,

Michael

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Thank you so much for your efforts. I can't wait for the results...  ;)

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Michael

Following your inquiry, I contacted an Argentine friend who is also a seaman, and he informed me of the following:

"Before your inquiry, I just communicated with my friend and we came to the conclusion that her trip spanned the end of 1985 and the beginning of 1986. She remembers that the defeat was crossing the Atlantic to the East and then across the Indian Ocean to its destination in Kwinana where they stayed at anchor for a few days before taking the pier.

The return was also direct but now through the Pacific Ocean to the Fuegian channels and its destination Puerto Madryn. As an anecdotal matter, he recalls that they had to land at a place in New Zealand to disembark a crew member affected by appendicitis.

My friend clarifies that the GLADIATOR ship made several trips between Australia and Puerto Madryn, she only manned it once but those trips were at least three.-"

Regards

Tomi.



Hi Tomi,

What an investigation !!!
In fact, everything you and your friend say reassures me a lot ...;)

Can I ask you, however, to clarify a few things, just to be perfectly in tune with my story?

For example, would you know during which months of the year was the Kwinana - Puerto Madryn part done? Was it in summer? Could you get specific dates?

About the sailor with the appendicitis (by the way, it's an anecdote that I like and could use ...), does your friend remember the New Zealand port where he disembarked?

Do you know if there were there any stopovers on the way? Could you confirm whether the Gladiator passed by the Strait of Magellan, and not the Cape Horn?

Last thing, does your friend remember how was the crew made of? (At least a little.)

I would be extremely happy if you could answer these questions.

So, I hope to read you very soon and I thank you once again for your precious help !!!

Michael

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Thank you Tomi,

Would you know more about the route she plyed? I was told she was transporting alumina from Austrlia (Fremantle or Kwinana maybe) to Puerto Madryn (Argentina) but I'd like to have this confirmed (with dates and routes for instance).

Cheers,

Michael

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Hi guys,

Is there anyone here who would know the whereabouts of the GLADIATOR (http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2216853) (former Bulk Venture ; owner: Maruba  ; registration number: IMO 6510227 ; flag: Argentine) in 1981/1982?



I was told she crossed the ocean(s) from Australia (Fremantle or Kwinana) to Argentina (Puerto Madryn) at that time, but I'd like you to confirm and eventually give more details about those voyages.

Waiting for your answers,

Michael

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