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Overcautious?...

There is no extreme weather (wind) today in Gdynia. Berth is not extremely hard to access. Yet the captain of MSC Orchestra took "last minute" decision to turn back on Gdynia just 2 or 3 miles away from port entrance, with tugs around and with pilot on its way or already onboard (this latter is unclear).



http://www.portalmorski.pl/statki/zawiniecia/37753

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... "Marine Insight" is eager to teach others (on the occasion of many of its posts) on the necessity to respect copyrights, while it does not even provide name of the author with this photo (and is ready to forget copyrights and to publish the photo even if it does not know, who is the author and who should be credited in caption at least and without knowing whether the Author allows the photo to be published here)...
https://www.facebook.com/marineinsight/posts/809864652370655

... credit should be given not to photo sender (like MI does), but to the author in the first place ...

publishing the photo without asking the author for permission is problematic at least (or simply should be avoided / is forbidden), but if you do, you should provide author's name in caption at least;
if you do not know who the author is - you simply do not publish the photo (as a rule!)

... and in this particular case, the author, that should be credited, is Volker Diekamp.

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watch out for possible breach of Copyrights on your photos on these sites:

- http://photos.marineinsight.com
- http://marineinsight.com
- https://www.facebook.com/marineinsight

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places, which are not well developed, large scale tourist destinations tend to be more expensive to stay than large vacation resorts, where cheap vacation packages are available...

the problem is, vacation resorts usually tend to be (for obvious reasons) placed far from industrial areas and ports, thus far from ship traffic good for shipspotter's needs...

but maybe there are any exceptions?...


what are best EUROPEAN (and the ones not far from Europe) popular tourist destinations* offering good shipspotting opportunities at the same time?...


the main reasons (needs), for which I am looking for such a place is:

1. to have one or two week vacation with good shipspotting opportunities with low (or relatively low) cost per day... [regardles of traveling alone or with partner or friend]
(if you take bed and breakfast or even the cheapest hotel by the Kiel Canal or in Rozenburg or in Hoek van Holland it will cost you much more PER DAY than simple (not luxury hotel) vacation package in Egypt, Canary Islands or Turkey riviera)

2. you want spend vacations with your girlfriend, but she is not interested in shipspotting, you spend evenings together in clubs or discos or have nice diners with a romantic view and perhaps you do some local sightseeing together, but there will be also many days when she would like to spend all the sunny day on the beach suntanning while you prefer to go to the port (nearby, I mean it _NEAR_by) and do shipspotting)...


so... what places would you suggest (if such places exist at all) in Europe or nearby?...


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* I mean _popular_ vacation resorts or cities / other destinations, where a rich choice of accommodation (with relatively low price per day) and / or vacation package deals (fly there - stay - fly back, with full or half-board) are available...




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planning a short visit to Rostock / Warnemunde and Lubeck / Travemunde, I would be pleased to learn anything and I would appreciate receiving some advice...

two spotters will be in Rostock and Travemunde area from May 1 around noon or afternoon until May 4 at noon...  most probably 1st night stay in Rostock area, second in Travemunde and the third in Rostock again...

will there be anything special / unusual (unusual / non-regular ship visit) in any of the mentioned ports?...

where to seek traffic information (port expected arrivals)?...

what are the most dense (most traffic filled) hours of regular traffic (mainly ferries) in these ports in these days?

what are the best vantage / spotting (photography) points / sites (also taking into consideration the direction of the sunlight)?...

are there any "hafenrundfahrt" boat trips available at this time of the year in the mentioned ports?...


any bit of information will be much appreciated.

regards,

Peter


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Shipping News and information / strange Emma Maersk beahaviour
« on: January 12, 2014, 03:02:50 PM »
any idea?  why did Emma Maersk slow down twice quite shortly after departure from Gdansk on its way to Aarhus?...

haven't heard of any SAR action, that ships would be asked to help with...


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Spotting opportunity | world's largest container vessel | Gdańsk, Poland | 21-23 August 2013 | practical info for shipspotters...

Info on viewing points available, restrictions to spotters (closed viewing point), other opportunities than viewing from the shore - see:
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=368908079901773

The small beach adjacent to DCT Gdansk terminal, so far traditionally used by spotters for viewing ships berthed at DCT Gdansk or approaching its quay, will NOT be available for the arrival of M

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Copyright issue is here again.

This time it is mainly because of an interesting law case regarding the photos posted onto and "freely available" on a social (community) website, which is based on the principle of "sharing" content (principle basically similar to the one used in Shipspotting).


If you see the photo in media that you suspect that may have been published without asking the author for permission - just try to find the original source of photo and let the author know...


The Copyright issue comes back again and again. Thieves do not allow to forget about the problem.

Recently quite popular in the media (for obvious reasons) were photographs of the Baltic Ace...  Many cases of publication of these photos were the cases of Copyright infringement.

Also recently I have discovered that even one well known international human rights organization used a photo from Shipspotting not asking the Author for permission and not even providing the author's name / source of photo in credit byline... (in some local language websites of this organization the name of the author was provided, but the photo was used without permission, in other language versions the photo appeared even without author's name in byline). So the right to own, private property (including Copyrights) is not one of the basic human rights?...


Some people just do not care (there is nothing wrong with that, but their case should not be spread over on all users of Shipspotting and voiced as "normal attitude" and "normal practice"). Others(majority - I suppose) _do care_ whether their photos are used / published elsewhere without asking the author for permission or not.

This is not about "being greedy".
Or if it is, then it is not the author to be dubbed "greedy".
"Greedy" is the one (commercial entity, such as news outlet) who uses photo without paying for it, and benefits from it (by providing own users with valuable content and attracting users / readers).

Most of us do shipspotting and ship photography for pleasure, as a hobby. Some of us might be rich and do not care. But there are very many among us (including myself), for whom the cost of travel to spotting and vantage points, as well as the cost of (even not extremely high-end) camera is significant in home budget and comes with some kind of effort of sacrifice (besides used time and devotion).

If someone can afford and wishes to offer his work free of charge to anyone - that's OK, but this is not the "normal" pattern acceptable to most of us (and should not be publicized as such, especially as those who propagate such attitude are simply wrong in law terms and thus, they mislead others by suggesting that someone should not fight for his rights).
And if our hobby comes at some sacrifice (eg. spending on photo cameras or travel to spotting places) it is even more NOT justified, reasonable, rational, sensible to allow media (news outlets, press agencies) to distribute, redistribute or publish your work (they are not offering their services and publications free of charge after all, they do it for payment - subscription or forcing you to be bothered by adverts).


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"When Haiti was devastated by an earthquake in early 2010, not many professional-quality photos of the disaster were immediately available."

>>> When news agency or outlet suddenly needs a photo of the named, individual ship (because it has just been in accident), not many professional-quality photos are immediately available...
One of the fast and easy ways to get one is to find and grab it from the Website like Shipspotting.com ora MarineTraffic.com or from private gallery or photoblog of an individual ship enthusiast.

>>> Photographs from Haiti earthquake aftermath "distributed" by the author on Twitter (and retwitted by someone else, but this is not much important for the core of this case) were grabbed and used by news agency and subsequently - published by numerous news outlets...

>>> The situation of photographs posted on Shipspotting or MarineTraffic is pretty much the same (in law terms), as this is the case with Twitter.
Both Shipspotting and Twitter are "social Internet websites" and posting a photo on any of them does not mean that Shipspotting or Twitter has to pay the author for publishing this photo.
Photographer makes the photo "freely available", but this does not mean in any way that the author loses his Copyrights by doing so.

>>> it is also worth noting, that...

"Twitter has an evolving set of rules for how ecosystem partners can interact with your Content. These rules exist to enable an open ecosystem with your rights in mind. But what

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Shipping News and information / two Finnlines ferries in one dock
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:32:12 PM »
just a small item of interest for ferry enthusiasts...

two Finnlines ferries - Finnpartner and Finnfellow docked at the same time in one drydock...

click on thumbnail in article to see a bit larger photos
http://www.portalmorski.pl/stocznie/remonty-przebudowy/33701

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click on thumbnail to enlarge record cover and see ship close-up...

quite adequately to doomy fate of a ship at breakers the music on this record is havy and not "easy-listening", in fact it is labelled "doom metal"...

it is most probably a Hamburg S

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Are there any organized shipspotting trips on hired boats being planned / under preparations for ARA, Terneuzen or Germany or any other high density ship traffic areas in Europe for the period May-August 2013 ?...
Even if not fixed yet - what would be the most probable dates ?


Regards,

Peter


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Not only Gdynia is worth shiplover's attention or interest in Poland.

However it is Gdynia that now offers maritime focused information for visitor or shiplover in English...

This website http://www.legendamorska.pl/en.html provides info on Gdynia's maritime heritage and major attractions to see and visit...

The website lacks typical shipspotter information, but I am sure, if you are going to visit any of Polish ports, either me or other Polish members of Shipspotting will be ready to provide information on vantage points, etc. if you ask on this forum.

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Shipping News and information / small video - Happy Delta departure...
« on: October 25, 2012, 02:24:42 PM »
Short video showing departure of Happy Delta conventional (mpp) heavy-lift vessel from the port of Gdynia (Poland) for New York with a deck cargo of four container gantry cranes (320 t each) to be installed in one or two of New York's converted waste marine transfer stations for loading contenerised waste onto barges.
The ship is expected in NY early November.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=493800113976983

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Maybe someone has local knowledge and may answer this:

Why did they fly the ship with crane over the production hall instead just to dock the ship normally (flood the dock, float in the ship, close the dock gate, pump out the water) ?...

http://www.building-supply.dk/announcement/view/20611/hj_hansen_nedbrydning_med_spektakulaert_loft_pa_lindo

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from "Maritime Bulletin":


UK Court found ram very brutal though harmless. The RMS Baerl drunken Captain case.

Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 9:43:00 AM

Several UK media published a story on drunken Russian Captain in Hull

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Shipping News and information / music video shot at the shipyard
« on: August 09, 2012, 10:32:46 AM »
Do you know Gdansk Shipyard? Yes, the one of Lech Walesa fame, Peace Noble Prize winner and - later - president of the Republic of Poland. The shipyard, where so called "August Agreements" were signed, in 1980, being the start for great political and economy system change in the whole Central and Eastern Europe and a trigger for breakdown of Berlin Wall and USSR.
Nowadays, the yard, after several years of changing of ownership status, idleness periods, ups and downs, is finally up and alive, with more certain future - it seems, under private Ukrainian ownership, investing and diversifying into windfarm turbine towers manufacturing, robotized production lines, etc. However for years now, the yard (earlier famous for building of many interesting ships, including Dar Mlodziezy, Mir and other tall ships) has not build any in-house designed and fully outfitted ship. It builds quite complex ships (like offshore support / subsea construction and well intervention vessels or seismic research vessels, with engines and much of the specialist seismic gear installed), but these are all only partially outfitted hulls sold to Nordic (mainly Norwegian) and Western European yards.
The yard, with restrictions imposed by European Commission, is confined to (large enough) area on the island only plus a single leased slipway in major former shipyard area (where also the historical workplace of Lech Walesa happens to be). In general prediction or plans the yard will be all moved to the island in future leaving the whole old shipyard area for redevelopment. Today last buildings of the old shipyard are being demolished (to cries of lovers of traditional architecture and historical monuments). In some parts of the yard (outside the island, where production is concentrated now), partly demolished - old workshops and production halls are occupied by culture centres, artist's colonies, clubbing areas, etc.
"Dark", industrial atmosphere of inactive area of the "old" Gdansk Shipyard, is sometimes used for big rock concerts (like David Gilmour or Jean Michelle Jarre) and as location for video shooting.
Piotr Pawlowski, bass guitarist, former member of the once legendary Poland's alternative and cold wave group Made in Poland, after becoming the HR specialist for Gdansk Shipyard and moving to Gdansk, initiated a new group called The Shipyard. Whatever the reason for naming the new rock group "The Shipyard", some say the band launches "musical torpedoes" appropriate for the 21st century. Indeed, the music of The Shipyard offers power and freshness long time forgotten by Tricity (Gdansk, Gdynia, Sopot) -  once the Polish center for strongest innovative trends and best alternative rock music.
The newest video of the band features the shipyard itself. Although most of the pictures seen come from "old part" of Gdansk Shipyard (now mostly demolished or at least abandoned), there are also some views from other shipyards in Gdansk. For example at 1:42 and 2:50 floating docks of Gdansk Shiprepair Yard "Remontowa" SA appear. "Remontowa" has nothing to do with Gdansk Shipyard, even historically. "Remontowa" is known, among other accomplishments, from upgrading and converting Awilco and Safe drilling and hotel semi-subs and jack-ups or converting a tanker into FPSO Cidade de Rio das Ostras for Teekay and Petrobras. The final scene of the music video show launching of the L

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