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Shipping News and information / Re: Type 26 Frigate names

« on: May 06, 2016, 07:09:36 AM »

There have been Ten previous Royal Navy warships with the name Berwick. The last two ships were the WW2 heavy cruiser, the County class HMS Berwick C65, 1926-46 & the Rothesay class Frigate HMS Berwick F115, 1961-86.

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Shipping News and information / Type 26 Frigate names

« on: May 04, 2016, 08:20:29 PM »

It seems likely that the names for the 8 Type 26 Frigates will be taken from previous County class cruisers of WW2 & County class Destroyers of the 1960/70s era.

My choice of names would be as follows :

DORSET
SUFFOLK
FIFE
GLAMORGAN
SUSSEX
BEWICK
DEVONSHIRE
HAMPSHIRE

The name Norfolk was quite recently used as the lead ship of the Type 23 Frigates. If London wishes to have a Type 26, it can add a 9th ship...

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Shipping News and information / Re: Names for the new Royal Navy Type 26 Frigates

« on: April 04, 2016, 07:46:30 PM »

As it has been announced that there will only be 8 Type 26 Frigates, it is my guess that they will be named after counties, taking the names of previous County class Cruisers & County class Destroyers.

SUFFOLK
HAMPSHIRE
DORSET
FIFE
GLAMORGAN
LONDON
CUMBERLAND
SUSSEX

It has also been announced that there will be 5 `or more` Type 31 Frigates. These would most likely be named after previous Leander class Frigates. There were 26 of these excellent warships built, but the most previously used ship names in the Royal Navy are :

LEANDER
APOLLO
SIRIUS
CLEOPATRA
GALATEA

ACHILLES
ANDROMEDA
DIOMEDE
JUPITER
ARGONAUT
JUNO
PHOEBE
HERMIONE
BACHANTE

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Shipping News and information / Re: Names for the new Royal Navy Type 26 Frigates

« on: October 12, 2015, 09:40:02 PM »

Has it been officially announced then Jon, was it by a politician or by the RN ?

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Shipping News and information / Re: Names for the new Royal Navy Type 26 Frigates

« on: October 12, 2015, 06:26:39 PM »

So if the Type 26 Frigates are named after cities, these would be city names that have had previous warships named after them in order to perpetuate naval history. These are the possible names :

LONDON             MANCHESTER          LINCOLN            SALISBURY          CAMPBELTOWN
BIRMINGHAM         GLOUCESTER          BERWICK            LONDONDERRY        RHYL
GLASGOW            CHICHESTER          EDINBURGH          EXETER             EASTBOURNE
WHITBY             YORK                PLYMOUTH           YARMOUTH           SHEFFIELD
CARDIFF            ROTHESAY            LIVERPOOL          BRIGHTON           TENBY
NEWCASTLE          COVENTRY            BLACKPOOL          WEYMOUTH
HASTINGS           SOUTHAMPTON         EXMOUTH            FALMOUTH
NOTTINGHAM         TORQUAY             LOWESTOFT          CHATHAM       

That`s 37, apologies if i`ve missed any.

Discounted are HMS Belfast which remains on the Themes & HMS Bristol, which remains a training ship in Portsmouth harbour.

Would anyone like to choose 13 or even 8 names ?, imagine the political pressures....

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Shipping News and information / Re: Names for the new Royal Navy Type 26 Frigates

« on: October 10, 2015, 01:11:28 PM »

You may well be right Malim,

if the Brazilians, Canadians, Australians or anyone else don`t come on board & order any ships, to help drive down costs, there may be only 9 or so built with possibly 4 smaller corvette sized patrol ships equipped with a helicopter & hanger ordered instead.

Possible names include the 14 previous Type 42 destroyer city names & those from the County class destroyers ie, Glamorgan, Fife, Hampshire, Devonshire, London (previously used as a Type 22 batch II), & Norfolk (previously Type 23).

Strong contenders, due to the fact that they haven`t been used since the 1950`s are the County class cruiser names : Suffolk, Berwick, Sussex & Shropshire.

Then there are previous frigate names of the 1950`s & 60`s, such as Lincoln, Exmouth, Torquay, Blackpool, Salisbury, Rothesay, & Chichester.

Lots of competition for names, a political hot potato.

Clive.

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Shipping News and information / Re: HMS HERALD and HECLA

« on: October 09, 2015, 08:10:37 PM »

Excellent photos Bob, historic photos of an historic event. You can definately see the difference in the Red Crosses on the three ships, it makes identification quite easy.

Best regards,

Clive

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Shipping News and information / Names for the new Royal Navy Type 26 Frigates

« on: October 09, 2015, 07:58:51 PM »

There is much specutlation regarding names for the new Type 26 Frigates `Global Combat Ships`.

They will be large warships displacing over 6,000 tonnes, with a length of 148mtrs. They will be armed with the new Sea Ceptre missile replacing Sea Wolf & have vertical launch cruise missiles. With thirteen ships they will form the backbone of the Royal Navy fleet.

There is a compaign to name one of the ships HMS Plymouth, in recognition of it`s fine service in the Falkland`s conflict, HMS Plymouth F126.

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Shipping News and information / Re: HMS HERALD and HECLA

« on: October 07, 2015, 11:23:07 PM »

All this is excellent detective work, now we know how to recognise all three sisters, seemingly identical, with no pennant number.

Kind regards,

Clive 

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Shipping News and information / Re: HMS HERALD and HECLA

« on: October 07, 2015, 07:32:38 PM »

It would certainly be interesting to see the photo of HMS Hecla, Bob.

Regards,

Clive

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Shipping News and information / Re: HMS HERALD and HECLA

« on: October 07, 2015, 07:26:42 PM »

So just to add to the above, Robert`s photo can be confirmed as being HMS Herald.

Clive  

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Shipping News and information / Re: HMS HERALD and HECLA

« on: October 07, 2015, 07:10:33 PM »

It`s an interesting question, although i`m sure it is HMS Herald.

She arrived in the Falklands on 26th May, joining her sisters HMS Hecla & Hydra & also SS Uganda. Her task was to transport casualties away from the warzone to Montivideo, Uraguay. She returned home leaving her sisters at the Falklands in company with HMS Hermes & entered Portsmouth on 21st July 1982, just ahead of HMS Hermes. These are official facts & I also remember the day well as an excited teenager.

There was a way of telling the difference between the Herald & Hecla, the Herald`s Red Cross on her sides were smaller than on Hecla. The top of the cross on Herald only went as high as her portholes, while on Hecla the cross was further up, inches away from her deck. The bottom of the cross was nearly at the water level on Hecla, while shorter on Herald.