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Shipspotters all over the world => Site related news, functions and modules => Topic started by: caiobarros1 on April 26, 2022, 05:28:50 PM

Title: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: caiobarros1 on April 26, 2022, 05:28:50 PM
Hello guys! We hope that you well! My name is Caio Barros and James Field and I are responsible for ShipSpotting's social media.

This forum post is to discuss part of the many plans that we have here on ShipSpotting.com and how we can get this incredible industry more into public view.

Therefore, over the last couple of weeks, we have opened up social media accounts dedicated to ShipSpotting and the hundreds of thousands of photos that we have on our website!

These social media accounts will showcase the amazing photographs that you guys take and give you the recognition that you deserve for posting on our site. It is an honor that you guys choose us when uploading your photos.

We heavily encourage you to follow our social media accounts that we have so far, which are as follows:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ShipSpottingCom
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ShipSpottingCom
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shipspottingofficial

We have a considerable emphasis on basing our social media content around our audience and stakeholders.
So, if you have any ideas regarding what we post on social media, then go ahead and reply to this thread as your input is greatly valued.

In the meantime, if any of you guys need any support or anything like that, then please give me a message on the forum.

I look forward to communicating more with you guys for the many exciting things that we have in store!

All the best!

- ShipSpotting Communication Team (Caio Barros & James Field)
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Clyde Dickens on April 27, 2022, 07:39:32 AM
 That is very interesting news!

Will every photo uploaded to the site be copied to one or more or all of the social media you mentioned?

Or will there be some form of selection criteria used?

Clyde
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 09, 2022, 02:05:40 PM
I made a post on the FB group pointing out my thoughts on the new style here - it was removed very quickly from the group :(

I would also like to state that you DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION to repost any photo I upload to ShipSpotting.com to any social media platform - if I want my photos posted elsewhere I will do so myself.

Patrick
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: csaba on May 10, 2022, 04:56:27 AM
Agree with Patric. If I want my photos and my name posted elsewhere, I will do it myself. You do not have my permission to post MY photos anywhere.
You also say "my name is" but you list two names. So are you one or two persons?
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Clyde Dickens on May 10, 2022, 05:16:56 AM
I repeat my original question and ask another

Will every photo uploaded to the site be copied to one or more or all of the social media you mentioned?

Or will there be some form of selection criteria used?

Will there be a means of refusing permission to repost to social media.  In a position which applies to all photos uploaded by the member? 
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Manfred on May 10, 2022, 09:27:34 AM
Just checked on fb, lots of well known photos.  >:(

https://www.facebook.com/ShipSpottingCom
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: ChasB46 on May 10, 2022, 10:09:42 AM
You need to read the latest Terms & Conditions re the site

To promote contributing photographers and increase traffic to the Website, ShipSpotting reserves the right to make available links to submitted photos for other websites or applications (hereafter 3:rd Party) to incorporate as part of their service. Linking to material on the Internet is common and not an issue in itself, but to be clear on how pictures submitted to ShipSpotting.com might be used, this paragraph was created.

Following conditions apply: etc.etc.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 10, 2022, 10:25:08 AM
Not the T&C's I agreed to, if there is no opt out then I will have to consider removing all my photos and not posting anymore.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Bob Scott on May 10, 2022, 11:26:38 AM
Not the T&C's I agreed to, if there is no opt out then I will have to consider removing all my photos and not posting anymore.
Ditto from me
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: andrecas on May 10, 2022, 01:19:30 PM
After rereading the message posted by Messrs. Barros and Field,  I read Shipspotting's Copyright Policy and given the sites previous stand on copyright issues, the wording in this section essentially creates an "open door policy"...? As expressed by other members, this site does not have my permission to post my photos elsewhere.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: ChasB46 on May 10, 2022, 01:53:29 PM
Could it be Shipspotting attracting advertising revenue to fund the site ... however, kept change of T&C's very quiet on this topic. Your photos, your choice to stay or go.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 10, 2022, 04:22:34 PM
Not the T&C's I agreed to, if there is no opt out then I will have to consider removing all my photos and not posting anymore.
Ditto from me

And ditto from me as well especially with the "share" button which I notice has been used on some photos so where have they gone?
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on May 10, 2022, 05:28:32 PM
The tread started with: "This forum post is to discuss part of the many plans.... etc".
Now more than three weeks ago.
Total silence. ................
Now some answers about the serious questions from the members please?
It is clear that not everybody want his or her photos to be posted on social media.
And I understand now why "full screen" on old website was for members only and on the new website for anybody.
Copyright protection and privileged viewing are gone. 
 
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: AEM Outsource on May 11, 2022, 09:31:18 AM
The track began with: "This gathering post is to examine part of the numerous plans.... and so on".
Presently over three weeks prior.
Absolute quietness.
Thanks.
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Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 13, 2022, 02:17:14 PM
As we don't seem to be getting any response to these questions on here - I've just posted the following on the FB group

"I want to post my photos to the site but NOT have them posted anywhere else. Are you going to reply to my post in the forum or just delete this message as you did my last one?"

Let's see what happens now - but I'm not holding my breath...
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Clive on May 15, 2022, 01:50:28 PM
I have come late to this thread, primarily because since the redesigning of of the site, which I think is perfectly dreadful, I am not inclined to visit as often as I did in the past.
I agree with several of the contributors above; I posted my pictures on Shipspotting.com and I am not happy for someone to now take those pictures and post them onto Facebook and elsewhere.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Clyde Dickens on May 16, 2022, 01:26:43 AM
Hello Caio Barros and James Field.  On April 27 you said “I look forward to communicating more with you guys”

Since then, I have asked questions and other members have made comments.   You have NOT communicated with us

That is unfortunate.  One of the major strengths of the site has been the ease and frequency of communication between members

Please read what you said and the replies you received and respond.

I suggest that you give individual members the option to decline to have their photos posted by you to social media

Clyde
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Tony Martin on May 16, 2022, 07:09:41 AM
Clyde, totally agree with your comments. I did not give permission for my photos to be posted on social media, and am disappointed there was no prior communication on this issue. I do not want my photos posted on social media through a second party, and am considering my options. Furthermore I have totally lost interest in the site, a number of viewing options no longer work that were of interest to me. I think that Caio and James need to start listening and respond If they do not wish, certainly me  and others to leave altogether.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: csaba on May 17, 2022, 04:05:31 AM
Agree with Clyde and Tony.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Cody Williams on May 17, 2022, 01:13:18 PM
If you start using peoples images without their permission; I will be removing all my images from the site.

Cody
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 17, 2022, 07:12:38 PM
And now suddenly I'm unable to access the site unless I turn off my AdBlock - I'll not be posting any more and will consider how best to remove all my photos.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: csaba on May 18, 2022, 02:42:05 PM
And now suddenly I'm unable to access the site unless I turn off my AdBlock - I'll not be posting any more and will consider how best to remove all my photos.

This is what happened to me too yesterday. I can access it from work but at home I can't unless I turn off the ad blocker. For goodness sake....
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on May 18, 2022, 03:19:25 PM
From one day to the next and without warning, this website only appears to be viewable after the adblock has been removed.
So only access while constantly being harassed with completely useless ads.
But I do not want to uninstall / install adblock each day for looking at a few new photo’s.
After a rebuild of the website that I didn't ask for, a layout that killed the "most viewed" mechanism, a new layout where you keep scrolling, total lack of communication by the website owner, etc, it's for enough for me now.
In 2004 I was asked to become a member, now 18 years later I have more than 21.700 photos on the website but I don't feel at home anymore.
I have now joined Fleetmon: also a website with beautiful and good photos from all over the world.
But only for ships with a valid MMSI number, so no blurry black and white photos and trivial canal boats here.
Anyone that what to say something to me, please use my e-mail address found in my profile, because any PM's I will not read anymore.
Therefore: goodbye and farewell. A good working website have been killed.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 18, 2022, 03:20:16 PM
And now suddenly I'm unable to access the site unless I turn off my AdBlock - I'll not be posting any more and will consider how best to remove all my photos.

And if you do turn off AdBlockers there is an option to turn off ads under the adverts - which takes you to a page to register or login - even though I'm logged in!! This is getting to be a real joke now - I'd maybe feel happier if we had any sort of response from the IT team/Owners - they seem to have time to post photos on FB!
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 19, 2022, 08:44:26 AM
I can still access the site but with that annoying message at the bottom, do they want us to pay for an ad free site?
It just gets worse  >:(
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Bob Scott on May 19, 2022, 10:58:11 AM
Hi, Bob
I have permanently switched-off my ad blocker on this site and don't have any more problems. However I do get ads. This morning I had one with scantily-clad young ladies. Not what I want to see on a site about ships
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Clyde Dickens on May 19, 2022, 10:19:56 PM
Patrick Hill made this Comment to one of the photos posted to FaceBook  I have repeated it to another
See https://www.facebook.com/ShipSpottingCom

You are seriously alienating long standing members of the ShipSpotting site by continually ignoring messages in the forum - please take the time to answer these messages as a priority over posting on FB!!
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: caiobarros1 on May 20, 2022, 03:33:45 PM
Dear ShipSpotting Members,

We write this post regarding the usage of photos across the ShipSpotting social medium of Facebook, Twitter & Instagram. We have noticed that some members are not happy about their photos being shared across our social media accounts and that you want it to remain on the website only.

We totally understand this perspective, especially around privacy and copyright. On behalf of the ShipSpotting team, we apologize for any inconvenience caused with our actions surrounding this.

So we're going to outline to you what we're now going to do going forward: We're going to provide users with an option to disallow the usage of current and future photos externally (social media) on the photo settings page: https://www.shipspotting.com/photo/settings. From there, it will be clearer for the ShipSpotting communication team when and where we can use photos.

For any users that have had their imagery shared on our social media that you want removing, please reply to this post with the link to the specific post in question, and we will aim to remove this within 24 hours. We want to always acquire feedback, regardless of whether it is negative or positive, in order to benefit our incredible community who do us the amazing pleasure of showcasing their photos and movements.

If you wish to message us privately, please feel free to do so via the forum, or by email.

You can find our emails here below:
Caio Barros -  [email protected]
James Field - [email protected]

Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience caused in this matter, and please feel free to reach out for any additional support!

Kind regards,
ShipSpotting Communication Team
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Owen Foley on May 20, 2022, 03:51:19 PM
You need to read the latest Terms & Conditions re the site

To promote contributing photographers and increase traffic to the Website, ShipSpotting reserves the right to make available links to submitted photos for other websites or applications
It's failing to increase traffic to Shipspotting.com
It used to be that the view numbers of the most viewed pix each day were 300-400.
Now they are usually <100 and sometimes <50.
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Clyde Dickens on May 21, 2022, 01:56:26 AM
 When logging on there is a heading stating Most Popular Last 24 Hours

The photos under the heading are of the most recent uploads!!!!!

To see the most popular in the past 24 hours one has to click the Photos tab near the top left hand corner of the page then click Most Popular

Many members view the Most Popular photos as the first thing they do after logging on

This should be corrected as a matter of urgency
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: pieter melissen on May 21, 2022, 05:42:37 AM
Clyde, although I see the anomalies you mention, one should always remember that shipspotting is not a popularity contest. Personally I would not be unhappy if that element gets far less attention than before, when popularity was largely driven by the number of comments and not by the subject, let alone the technical quality of the photo,
Title: Re: Hello to the ShipSpotter community!
Post by: Tuomas Romu on May 21, 2022, 03:20:03 PM
Could you add code for Twitter card (https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites/cards/overview/summary-card-with-large-image) to ShipSpotting.com (and similar code for other social media platforms that do not have an inherent capability to generate card-type posts). This would discourage unauthorized downloading and embedding the photograph in the tweet as including the link alone would already create a "visual" tweet that draws attention and directs users to the website. Here's an example from Airliners.net (https://twitter.com/airliners_net/status/1527966326589132800) which is comparable to ShipSpotting.com in terms of functionality and purpose.

I think everyone would benefit from ShipSpotting.com having a Twitter card as, in addition to above, it would generate views for the users (as one would have to click the link to view the photograph), bring more visitors for the website (possibly increasing ad revenue needed to cover running the website), introduce new people to ShipSpotting.com (as the website encourages further browsing of photographs), and most importantly I would not have to waste limited characters in a tweet to emphasize that there are interesting photographs behind the plain text link.

Furthermore, thumbnails needed for Twitter cards are already covered in the current Terms & Conditions (https://www.shipspotting.com/about/terms) under "Copyright Policy" so there's no need to implement complex "opt-out" feature to enable this basic modern functionality throughout ShipSpotting.com.