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Shipspotters all over the world => Shipping News and information => Topic started by: kyle pesely on February 20, 2012, 05:39:38 PM
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its going to be interesting to see how this new piece of evidence plays out.
as if Schettino couldn't be MORE screwed.
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory/lawyers-cocaine-capsized-cruise-captains-hair-15747636#.T0KHkZiXT50
(if the admins want to move this to a pre-existing Concordia thread, please feel free, i just couldnt find one appropriate)
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"as if Schettino couldn't be MORE screwed."
screwed up, more likely
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in 2005 US-scientists found at 90% off all analyzed american banknotes traces of cocaine, at 85% of canadian banknotes, at 90% of euros and at 20% of japanese banknotes. the quantity of cocaine was between 0,006 und 1240 microgramm! so, if they find traces of cocaine under your finger nails, you are automatically guilty? for me this looks like just another "yellow press sales promotion headline". very good for share holders value, bad for objectiveness and justice in this very sad maritime disaster.
Nelson
usual a ROM = Read Only Member ;O)
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Nelson
I am with you on this,,seems like no news
now they found something again to keep it boiling
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Nelson & Capt. Ted:
i agree with you completely. im not saying that Capt. Schettino is a daily or even casual user, but it will be interesting to see if this turns into anything.
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Whether he was stoned or sober is all really academic,why did he and lets not forget the other bridge officers allow the ship to hit the island in the first place ?
All these snippets are just the endless crap that the media feeds to the world to keep sales
up. ( and viewing) after all they are in business just as Costa Cruises is.
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this just shows that he was a consumer, it doesn
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I am a believer of innocent until proven guilty. Until all the investigations are complete we are not going to know exactly what happened to the Costa Concordia, how and why. We should be grateful that it was not a lot worse. But the way I see it, either someone made a massive mistake in judgement and it was too late to correct it or something went horribly wrong on the ship that lead it to hit the rock.
It will be interesting to see the final report.
Glenn
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I doubt this story has a lot in it..He has enough on his plate as it is..
Cheers
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I for one wonder sometimes why things like this started in the forum in the first place.
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@Capt. Ted:
my intent with this thread was never to spread tabloid slander, or to dish out media hullaballoo. i was only trying to share a piece of information i had come across that i had yet to see shared here.
i always dreamed as a young boy of being a cruise ship officer, and when something like this happens, something that is (in theory) never supposed to happen, it grabs any and all of my attention when new pieces of information come to light.
all i was trying to say is this: REGARDLESS of whether or not the captain has ever actually consumed any illicit drugs, the public, by way of the media, are now potentially going to label him a user, and with everything else he has going on right now, i cant imagine something like that being anything but negative, regradless of the truth.
i have MUCH respect for the masters of all the different types of vessels that roam the seas of our blue planet, yourself included. so i cant help but be morbidly fascinated when one of them seemingly abandons those duties.
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@Capt. Ted:
my intent with this thread was never to spread tabloid slander, or to dish out media hullaballoo. i was only trying to share a piece of information i had come across that i had yet to see shared here.
i always dreamed as a young boy of being a cruise ship officer, and when something like this happens, something that is (in theory) never supposed to happen, it grabs any and all of my attention when new pieces of information come to light.
all i was trying to say is this: REGARDLESS of whether or not the captain has ever actually consumed any illicit drugs, the public, by way of the media, are now potentially going to label him a user, and with everything else he has going on right now, i cant imagine something like that being anything but negative, regradless of the truth.
i have MUCH respect for the masters of all the different types of vessels that roam the seas of our blue planet, yourself included. so i cant help but be morbidly fascinated when one of them seemingly abandons those duties.
Reported here that the Captain stated that the cocaine trace found in his hair came from sleeping on a pillow that some other cocaine user slept on. I thought the tale of falling into the life boat to explain his leaving the vessel ahead of the passengers could not be topped. I can't wait for the next tall tale!
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Somebody mentioned "slander": the word used should have been "libel"!
I think it possible that when the results of the inquiry and any court cases are revealed, Capt Schettino - especially if he is proved not to be wholly at fault - may possibly have grounds to sue some media for libel.
Although it is only a very remote possibility, he might also be able to sue this site or an individual member of it if speculative comments are made that go beyond what has appeared in the press and are seen as aimed purely at damaging the man or his reputation. It does not have to be untrue to be libellous.
A charge of contempt of court can also be brought for publishing inappropriate comments while a trial is in progress and is "sub judice".
So best shut-up with the speculative comments and await the outcome of the enquiry/trial! But if you feel compelled to have your say about the captain, be sure to use the word "allegedly" at every opportunity.
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Bob,
Extremely well written,
I happen to live in USA, allegedly, where we have more Scum Bag Lawyers than the Ocean Has
Waves, eh Alledgely.
Watched AIS re-enactment of this Tragedy, the only thing that stopped greater loss of life was the Wind , phone pictures from the Bridge were disgusting, eh Allegedly.
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well if the admin's feel that this thread is in any way out of line, or potentially harming to the site or anyone affiliated with it, i welcome them to delete it.
@Bob:
apologies for my incorrect word usage. im a humble cannery worker and sometimes my communications skills arent always top notch.
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There has been nothing written on this site that hasn't been splashed all over the world via TV Internet Phones faxes pigeons telex or by any means of communication. So if some people think a thread like this is not to their liking there are some that think it is.. Anyway each to there own i still find it funny how he tripped and fell into a life raft..Now a Pillow.. Oh Dear
cheers
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Bob,
Extremely well written,
I happen to live in USA, allegedly, where we have more Scum Bag Lawyers than the Ocean Has
Waves, eh Alledgely.
Watched AIS re-enactment of this Tragedy, the only thing that stopped greater loss of life was the Wind , phone pictures from the Bridge were disgusting, eh Allegedly.
I absolutely agree! If the ship was sent offshore respect to the island now we could have an heavy toll of deaths (apart that almost 35 lost lifes is HEAVY)!
Regarding the fact of the cocaine traces it seems to be a fake scoop of some journalists. Like the couple of spouses which lost one baby being pregnant while she was absolutely not onboard. Power of the low quality media...
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Frederico,
Just ignore the Cocaine, allegedly accusations.
The Bus was not told dont beach here go there alledgedlly
The bus hit a Reef ,Rock, Island at 16 knots, by the time the Rocket Scientist,s on the bridge had figured something was a miss the ship had Travelled into Very deep water
The engines stopped because of water inflow, wind at 25knots turned ship and blew onto ledge
Absolutly nothing to do with the alledgedlly rocket scientists driving this Bus.
A lot of very good people lost there lives because of these Clowns alledgedlly.
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Dear Ian,
for sure what happened is a shame! And also is a shame how they managed wrongly the emergency, how they tried to minimize the accident with the authorities and also the behaviour of some authorities which went everywhere on news and primetime saying that they immediately went to hel for the survivors!
But when you read on newspapers that also cocaine was found in Schettino's hair it's comics...
Anyway, it's also a comics that Schettino is not in jail but in his private residence arrest status!
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Anyway, it's also a comics that Schettino is not in jail but in his private residence arrest status!
Must have been dreaming. Did I miss a long complicated court case and guilty verdict? Saves all the expense and delay, I suppose. But then I dreamed that he went off for the weekend to set fire to Costa ships.
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Anyway, it's also a comics that Schettino is not in jail but in his private residence arrest status!
Must have been dreaming. Did I miss a long complicated court case and guilty verdict? Saves all the expense and delay, I suppose. But then I dreamed that he went off for the weekend to set fire to Costa ships.
A long and complicated court case? No doubt that this will happen. But I suggest that for the cruise line that this is now a mute point. This second incident will result in a verdict from the Court of Public Opinion. I doubt that the Line will survive this double blow to their reputation.
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At the inquiry the First Officer stated that the Master did not have his glasses on and could not see were he was going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What was the First Officer thinking when he offered this as a reason?
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As stated before, traces of cocaine can be found pretty much anywhere nowadays.
However, I do think that the hair testing process includes splitting the hair, (or something) to see what's actually inside it and not just on it.
I'm not sure about any of this, though, it's just what I think.
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even from handling money you can get traces of cocaine on your hands and anywhere you touch after.. a cop friend of mine told me that