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Title: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 12:23:29 PM
Hello dear members of ShipSpotting.com,

A new website design has been in development for some time now and it is currently in a beta phase.
It is available at http://dev.shipspotting.com (http://dev.shipspotting.com).

Please feel free to review it before deployment, we would love to hear your feedback.

Cheers

EDIT:
Because both versions (current and beta) run on the same domain the user's sessions overwrite each other when you login.

Please everyone follow Pieter's advice when writing a post http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17380.msg93956.html#msg93956 (http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17380.msg93956.html#msg93956). Another alternative would be to use the bowser's incognito feature, or even another browser to check out the beta version.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on February 21, 2022, 12:51:19 PM
I'll be the first to say the difficult words: me like! :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
I wrote a long comment, but switching form the beta version to the current one and back, resulted in me being logged out, so when I clicked "sent" the whole comment disappeared.

So whatever you are going to write, first save your comment somewhere before sending it.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Juan Carlos C. on February 21, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
The new page is not bad, but I only have one concern, on the new page it tells me that I have 8728 published photos, since in reality I have 8940 published photos, what happens to the rest of the photos? 212 photos were ""lost""
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on February 21, 2022, 01:11:28 PM
It will take some getting used to but looks ok. I can't see the "More of" options - I use this quite a bit to see other photographers work or of the same ship, is it gone for good?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 01:24:55 PM
attempt 2:

1. The design is probably looking more modern but I am probably old school, and I like to read black characters on a white background.

2. The absence of the summary page has been tried to compensate with making selections possible on more than just the IMO number, but also on the basis of name and MMSI number, and more factors. That could be useful, but the summary page was a very useful tool for checking in which category a ship had been allocated, for instance for posting a ship for the first time. So bring back the summary table.

3. As a corrector I find the presented listing of new photos unworkable, I cannot immediately see what the category is, whether the IMO number is there and more. This means that I will have to open each photo individually, which is far more time consuming than just just glancing through the new entries like I do every morning. I cannot see a good reason why we get to see three columns of new ships, with only the name and the photographer mentioned.

4. A large section of the some is devoted to most popular categories: Views alone is not the way to go, because some broad categories contain many more ships, than other categories that have been broken down by age brackets etc. It is not for nothing that Chemical and Product tankers is the most popular category in the beta version, it contains all the ships built from 1970 onwards. As long as there is no algorithm combining the number of ships and the number of views per category, it is simply useless. The home page space better to be used for other things, such as an extension of the space foe making comments.


Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: Juan Carlos C. on February 21, 2022, 01:06:06 PM
The new page is not bad, but I only have one concern, on the new page it tells me that I have 8728 published photos, since in reality I have 8940 published photos, what happens to the rest of the photos? 212 photos were ""lost""
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
I wrote a long comment, but switching form the beta version to the current one and back, resulted in me being logged out, so when I clicked "sent" the whole comment disappeared.

So whatever you are going to write, first save your comment somewhere before sending it.

Pieter, you are absolutely correct, because both versions (current and beta) run on the same domain the user's sessions overwrite each other when you login.

Please everyone follow Pieter's advice when writing a post. Another alternative would be to use the bowser's incognito feature, or even another browser to check out the beta version.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Patrick Hill on February 21, 2022, 01:11:28 PM
It will take some getting used to but looks ok. I can't see the "More of" options - I use this quite a bit to see other photographers work or of the same ship, is it gone for good?

Patrick, if you are referring to the "More Of This Ship" section in the photo page, it is available at the same spot right above the comments.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on February 21, 2022, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 01:49:32 PM

Patrick, if you are referring to the "More Of This Ship" section in the photo page, it is available at the same spot right above the comments.

Thanks - didn't spot it earlier :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
I wrote a long comment, but switching form the beta version to the current one and back, resulted in me being logged out, so when I clicked "sent" the whole comment disappeared.

So whatever you are going to write, first save your comment somewhere before sending it.

Pieter, you are absolutely correct, because both versions (current and beta) run on the same domain the user's sessions overwrite each other when you login.

Please everyone follow Pieter's advice when writing a post. Another alternative would be to use the bowser's incognito feature, or even another browser to check out the beta version.

Hugo, modify your first post to warn people, it is rather irritating, I was just in the beta version, went back to this, clicked "quote" and my login was gone.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: ChasB46 on February 21, 2022, 02:06:05 PM
I do like the full screen option to enlarge further(+)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 02:07:29 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 01:24:55 PM
2. The absence of the summary page has been tried to compensate with making selections possible on more than just the IMO number, but also on the basis of name and MMSI number, and more factors. That could be useful, but the summary page was a very useful tool for checking in which category a ship had been allocated, for instance for posting a ship for the first time. So bring back the summary table.

Pieter, the Ship Summary page was discontinued based on feedback from the ShipSpotting Admins.
However some of it's elements have been incorporated on the photo page, such as "Photo Categories", "AIS Position of this ship", "Photographers of this ship" and "Port History".
These sections are presented when such data is available for the photo's ship.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on February 21, 2022, 02:08:50 PM
About the new website: in general looking very good, a modern, fresh layout. But one important remark:

My request to handle inland vessels with ENI the same as seagoing vessels with IMO has been totally ignored.
In my opinion a simple triple IF-THEN-ELSE solution.
In the period some 15 years ago that I was programmer/developer and not web-based:
IF IMO is not null and ENI is not null
     SHOW IMO, SHOW ENI
ELSE
     IF IMO is not null and ENI is null
              SHOW IMO
     ELSE
           IF IMO is null end ENI is not null
                   SHOW ENI
           ELSE
                   SHOW "nothing"
           ENDIF
     ENDIF
ENDIF
Note the "nothing": there are many vessels without IMO and without ENI.

In case I have an inland cargo vessel like ROOS on the screen, nowhere the ENI is mentioned.
Also is mentioned: This ship does not exist on other photo categories.
But in fact there are 43 other pic's on the website with the name ROOS.
Using ENI as another key (like the IMO) would solve this.

Many modern inland tankers today have an IMO and an ENI.
See tanker ANTARES imo 9720536, but ENI is not shown in the new database (but is shown in the old database).
Another example that the queries for inland vessels are not okay.

I know that many members find the inland vessels not important but in mainland Europe inland shipping is most important, for food on the table, petrol in your car, etc.

But as said:  in general looking very good, modern, fresh layout.

Regards,  Pieter Inpijn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on February 21, 2022, 02:09:51 PM
Looks good!

It would be nice if full-size photo ("full screen") could be opened in a new tab instead of a new window.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 02:35:54 PM
Quote from: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 02:07:29 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 01:24:55 PM
2. The absence of the summary page has been tried to compensate with making selections possible on more than just the IMO number, but also on the basis of name and MMSI number, and more factors. That could be useful, but the summary page was a very useful tool for checking in which category a ship had been allocated, for instance for posting a ship for the first time. So bring back the summary table.

Pieter, the Ship Summary page was discontinued based on feedback from the ShipSpotting Admins.
However some of it's elements have been incorporated on the photo page, such as "Photo Categories", "AIS Position of this ship", "Photographers of this ship" and "Port History".
These sections are presented when such data is available for the photo's ship.

Hugo, we were asked for suggestions about changes, not about mentioning things we like and want to keep as they are. It is not for nothing that I wrote this sticky thread some time ago.
 
http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,15646.0.html
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on February 21, 2022, 01:24:55 PM
4. A large section of the some is devoted to most popular categories: Views alone is not the way to go, because some broad categories contain many more ships, than other categories that have been broken down by age brackets etc. It is not for nothing that Chemical and Product tankers is the most popular category in the beta version, it contains all the ships built from 1970 onwards. As long as there is no algorithm combining the number of ships and the number of views per category, it is simply useless. The home page space better to be used for other things, such as an extension of the space foe making comments.

Pieter, that is a great point, thank you.
We will take this into account and refactor the selection of the "Top Categories" in the Home page.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on February 21, 2022, 03:11:41 PM
Interesting re-design. Presumably new site will incorporate the long awaited "https" designation? 
The new design should lend to a better viewing experience for both, Members & Guests.
Looking forward to the final product.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on February 21, 2022, 02:08:50 PM
About the new website: in general looking very good, a modern, fresh layout. But one important remark:

My request to handle inland vessels with ENI the same as seagoing vessels with IMO has been totally ignored. ...

Pieter, I'm sorry this happened.
This is the first I've heard of your request about ENI numbers.
I will add this to the development roadmap, so we can rectify the situation.
Thank you for mentioning this issue.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: Tuomas Romu on February 21, 2022, 02:09:51 PM
Looks good!

It would be nice if full-size photo ("full screen") could be opened in a new tab instead of a new window.

Tuomas, that is an interesting suggestion, thank you.
We will take it into consideration.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 21, 2022, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: andrecas on February 21, 2022, 03:11:41 PM
Interesting re-design. Presumably new site will incorporate the long awaited "https" designation? 
The new design should lend to a better viewing experience for both, Members & Guests.
Looking forward to the final product.

Andrecas, yes upon deployment of the new site it will be https enabled.
Thank you for your feedback
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony des Landes on February 21, 2022, 11:57:19 PM
I would like to see the photo dimensions with each image.
I am only interested in high res photos so would not need to open to actual size only to find that it os quite small
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on February 22, 2022, 02:52:25 PM
May I remind the IT-group, admin-team and members to this topic:

http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,16836.0.html

That was created a few years ago after admin announced that a new website was under construction and members were invited to give ideas.

It seems to have moved out of sight to all concerned........      :)    :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on February 22, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
I tried to upload three photo's on the new website and I am not happy with the new upload screen.
It would be nice to make it more compact: now I have to scroll down to fill in the lower fields.
Resizing the screen itself is no solution: then the characters become to small and are difficult to read.
And maybe because of the beta-version: indexing is not tuned yet; after upload all three photo's came back different. It were not my photo's but with my text /details, etc.
 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on February 22, 2022, 06:40:33 PM
@Pieter I, did the same, no need to scroll down, 27 inch screen. The photo that came up was not the one I posted.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Ship Shooter on February 24, 2022, 03:34:55 PM
Hi All, Admins & Shipspotters !

I guess that's not a scoop that shipspotting is THE worldwide site you start with your search, especially concerning old hulls.

Therefore when you are in search of info, you need first :
1- the picture to quickly identify the correct IMO,
2- once you have the IMO, you are in search of shipspotters who made the effort to add constructive / consistent description of the vessel, sea accident details, etc... in relation with their picture(s).

I have nothing againt people that are using shipspotting to "just" share picture, I just underline that the Description field is important for some users and that its content, when it exists, should be put in evidence... for people like me.

So it would be great if the Admins could mention whatever is the way used "consitent description fiels" on the main page : number of words, just a "Description activated" text or what you want.


Second point which is not an easy one as soon as we talk about a photo site, but as you have the hands in the codes, that's the right moment : the main color of the background.
Please keep in mind that some of us prefer black as the main background color to protect their eyes, and use in consequence add-on on their browser to correct the screening of what they watch.
So try to use "standard conversion color scheme" or give a look at the way addon such as "Dark Reader" for Firefox works.

Thanks in advance for you kind attention on these matters.

Regards.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on February 25, 2022, 09:58:08 AM
Hello Hugo, many thanks for your efforts in designing a new website. I can imagine that this is a huge task and not an easy one.  At first glance the new design looked pleasing and fresh to me but -  what really counts of course is whether the applications have been improved or not. That's what any change should be about and  what really matters for the members of this site. Please take my remarks as constructive hints to consider some details.

Firstly it appears to me that the shown picture in standard size (between thumbnail and fullscreen) is to a certain degree less sharp and clear in the beta-version, what would surely be not acceptable if confirmed by other members. So this should be checked....

The comment overview section on the front page is vital for the community and should therefore be shown to the same extent as hitherto, i.e. some twenty comments should be visible (there are just seven in the beta-version).  And all comments on a certain picture should be visible by scrolling down a bit from the photography. Tearing things apart which belong together isn't a good idea to say the least...

Another point is that the ENI numbers should be displayed under Photo details like the IMO numbers and should be clickable as well to show all pictures of a certain inland vessel. The description is an important  - and time consuming - part of a posting and the complete description should therefore be visible at once without having to scroll down too much. I'm sure that most members are not only interested in a photograph of a ship but also in the details and history of a certain vessel, so please let the whole description be shown at once like it is with the existing version. In the beta-version every detailed description is squeezed together and cannot be read in context - this is completely unacceptable in my opinion.

On the front page of the new version can be read : THE BEST Ship Information and Shipphotos. So let these information be well presented and seen at the first glance...

A further point is the background colour, it should be balanced and only have a small amount of white to be comfortable for the eyes. The pale blue of the current website version is a very good option which isn't too strenous for the eyes. Please consider this very important health factor as well.

Principally the current website is excellent in my view, so please do not change everything just to make changes. Each and every change should be an improvement to the existing and well proven website and this approach should be taken in consideration permanently because it is the key to a succesful new version of this site.

With the introduction of the beta-version planned for next monday already (or for the 27th of February ?) it looks like no more opinions from members want to be taken into account. I'm quite sure that most members aren't aware of the imminent change to a new version, it seems as if they should not be heard too much. Many members are employed and have little time during the week to consider the new beta-version. Please wait at least another week before deploying the new version to give all members a fair chance to react. Starting the new version hastily and without appropriate coordination with admins and members isn't a good start.

It would be very regrettable if the current succesful website concept would be ended without getting an improved version.

Please make sure that it is possible to return to the current version if the new concept has too many shortcomings and would be a deterioration of what the shipspotting community has now.

Once again many thanks to you and your team for your efforts up to now.

Best regards, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 25, 2022, 02:38:30 PM
Quote from: Tony des Landes on February 21, 2022, 11:57:19 PM
I would like to see the photo dimensions with each image.
I am only interested in high res photos so would not need to open to actual size only to find that it os quite small

Tony, thank you for you suggestion, we will add it to the development roadmap and take it into consideration how to best implement it.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 25, 2022, 02:44:07 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on February 22, 2022, 02:52:25 PM
May I remind the IT-group, admin-team and members to this topic:

http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,16836.0.html
...

Pieter, thank you for reminding us of this. We will review it soon, and add any pertaining features/suggestions/bug fixes to the development roadmap.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 25, 2022, 02:46:12 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on February 22, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
...
And maybe because of the beta-version: indexing is not tuned yet; after upload all three photo's came back different. It were not my photo's but with my text /details, etc.

Quote from: pieter melissen on February 22, 2022, 06:40:33 PM
@Pieter I, did the same, no need to scroll down, 27 inch screen. The photo that came up was not the one I posted.

Pieters  :)
This issue has been fixed, now you should be able to see your uploaded photos
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 25, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on February 22, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
I tried to upload three photo's on the new website and I am not happy with the new upload screen.
It would be nice to make it more compact: now I have to scroll down to fill in the lower fields.
Resizing the screen itself is no solution: then the characters become to small and are difficult to read.
...

Pieter, thank you for bringing up your concern.
A redesign of this page has not been foresighted for the near future. However resulting from your feedback we've added to our roadmap the development of a new optional feature to present forms in compact view.
Now this doesn't mean the entire form will always fit your screen no matter it's size.
Depending on your screen size, device type, zoom-level and orientation some scrolling might still apply.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on February 25, 2022, 03:15:33 PM
Dear members of ShipSpotting.com,

We wish to clarify that deploying the new website is not a final point in the development efforts of ShipSpoting.com.

Continuous integration of improvements and new features is the way forward in supporting the site.
All your feedback, suggestions, issues and concerns will be taken under advisement, reviewed by our team and added to the development roadmap when appropriate.

New developments will be deployed in periodic instances and made available to the public.

We would like to tank your for all your support, patience and understanding in this endeavor.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: SteKrueBe on February 25, 2022, 03:49:19 PM
Hi there,
also from me first a big thank you for the work on the new website! The design looks really modern, but like some of the other contributors before, I would like to say that the functions have changed, but have not improved as a whole. I don't see a problem with most of the functions, because after some time you will surely get used to them.  The completely white background, however, I feel as a clear step backwards and why the opportunity to include IMO and ENI number in the search function was not used, is also not understandable to me.
I repeat explicitly, I have great respect for the work that went into the project, but the best time for constructive criticism is probably now, before everything goes online.
Greetings from the Ems,
Stefan

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Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on February 25, 2022, 05:45:00 PM
After uploading a few more photo
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Oldkayaker on March 02, 2022, 06:50:32 PM
hi
How to get my location as the default when I log in?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Angelgreat on March 02, 2022, 09:38:45 PM
Will the old website version be accessible as legacy(dot)shipspotting(dot)com or something like that?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on March 02, 2022, 10:20:39 PM
I'm unable to log in on my PC but can log on my phone , anyone else got the same problem?
Title: NOW - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 03, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
There seems to be a problem with accessing the site properly - including logging-in, for at least some members using Firefox.
It defeated me all day, even when IT thought that there was no problem.  Then I found that access was possible using MS Edge (maybe Google Chrome is OK too - I refuse to have it)

There are many problems with the new design but, until it is clear that members can access it properly, I think that it is premature to focus on them.

Do note, that the long-overdue conversion to https has now been implemented, as promised by IT

I have noticed that, although some uploads were successful on 2 March, the images themselves are all currently missing from https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3399780 onwards

Finally, I have asked IT to comment here on the accessibility question as soon as they able.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on March 03, 2022, 02:49:28 AM
Finally able to log on to site (Using Edge).... However.........
-  Unable to upload photos. After entering pertinent information and clicking on upload panel the ships wheel simply rocks back and forth.
-  The home page on my screen still displaying 2 identical photos of David Meare vessel "Santa suzanna" . (Most viewed, etc., etc.)
-  On home page,  In space for latest photo there is a blank.
-  In latest photos screen, the page is showing uploads for March 1 only
-  I noticed in some of my older uploads where I added a link in the description, you can no longer click on that link to access relevant web site.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on March 03, 2022, 03:18:56 AM
I meant to include in previous post, when using mobile device to log in to site,  the home page is missing user ID and password buttons. I noticed In the upper right side of screen a small outline of a face and shoulders in a circle and on opposite side of screen 3 bars. Nothing happens to screen when I touch either side...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Nick Smith on March 03, 2022, 05:34:26 AM
Yes Paul I have the same problem. I can't log in from the front page I have to go to the forum page them log in.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 03, 2022, 06:46:37 AM
Today early morning:
- impossible to upload, no reply, after waiting for several minutes for several pics I gave up.
- main screen search function: searching on IMO still not working
- inland vessels: ENI number have disappeared in the details
- list of forum items: to short
- list of last photo comments: to short and impossible to look back
- what is the use of "most viewed last week"  or "most viewed last 24 hours" without mentioning the number of views, I liked the three mentioned in 24 hours in the former website much more
- button Limit 12/page or limit 24/page etc not working: the results goes on and on, far more than 12 or 24 etc
- button View Thumbnail+text does not show the text, result is not different form View normal
- which ideas and requests have been included from the forum-item mentioned by the members in 2020 when the design of a new website was been announced?
- which ideas and requests have been included from the forum-item mentioned by the members last month when the beta-version was presented?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 03, 2022, 07:01:27 AM
Another subject: the screen My uploaded photos.
- after deleting a photo, I received the message : photo has been deleted", and I return to some kind of main screen, not to my list of uploaded photos. Software must always give back the screen were I came from: user-friendly as in the former website.
- after deleting a photo, I received the message : photo has been deleted", but the photo is still mentioned in my list of uploaded photos, even after several reloads of the page. Only after five minutes waiting the names are removed from the list. Problem with updating the index tables in real time?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henry Casciaro on March 03, 2022, 07:13:22 AM
When I look at ship photos and press the
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Homer on March 03, 2022, 07:52:53 AM
Hi,
just to confirm that on Firefox its not possible to log-in. No error message , nothing happened at all. For Safari on a mac : not possible as well. On IOS device it seems to work. Luckily at least on chrome I can log-in. Further testing necessary
To the new design : well , guess I have to get used to it  :P

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 03, 2022, 08:15:00 AM
Another problem: looking at my own photos and using the button: "detailed listing" and "most popular first": shows 12 photos last one 3500 views. Photo 13 and more are my recent uploads with just 6 or so views. Changing to Limit 24/page shows 24 photos with large count and then again my recent uploads. Seems no limit to that screen.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henk Jungerius on March 03, 2022, 08:43:20 AM
Hallo; I can login with microsoft edge but upload of a picture fails
Kind Regards
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 03, 2022, 10:24:45 AM
Hi all

The same for me this morning, but I am sure that IT are actively working on establishing stability in the servers and the basic access issues.

Thanks, Henning, for noting that access on Safari does not work for you.  Anyone else tried with Safari?

I have asked IT to update here when they are able to report concrete progress.

I suggest that members do not keep attempting to upload photos until we are advised that that functions correctly.

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Eddie Walker on March 03, 2022, 10:28:14 AM
Now able to log in OK, but when attempting to upload photos, the screen does not advance beyond the 'spinning wheel'. If I then abandon it and go to the list of 'my photos', there is an entry there and the location, category, description etc can be seen, but where the photo should be, just an icon labelled 'no image'.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Eddie Walker on March 03, 2022, 10:31:51 AM
I should add that photos which I added to the site prior to the upgrade ARE visible.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: John van Zijderveld on March 03, 2022, 10:58:32 AM
Looks good, login with FireFox is impossible, as mentioned earlier, uploading photos does not work properly either
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on March 03, 2022, 11:09:42 AM
Log in ok, upload fails as per other users. It's a bit annoying that clicking on this forum post opens a new tab in Chrome, would prefer all actions to stay in the same tab.
Title: Re: NOW - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on March 03, 2022, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: davidships on March 03, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
There seems to be a problem with accessing the site properly - including logging-in, for at least some members using Firefox.
It defeated me all day, even when IT thought that there was no problem.  Then I found that access was possible using MS Edge (maybe Google Chrome is OK too - I refuse to have it)

There are many problems with the new design but, until it is clear that members can access it properly, I think that it is premature to focus on them.

Do note, that the long-overdue conversion to https has now been implemented, as promised by IT

I have noticed that, although some uploads were successful on 2 March, the images themselves are all currently missing from https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3399780 onwards

Finally, I have asked IT to comment here on the accessibility question as soon as they able.

David, thank you for your notes.

There is in fact an issue with login on some browsers (Firefox, Safari) which we will be addressing today. In the meanwhile the login is confirmed to be functional with Chrome and MS Edge.
Also as many members have noted there is also an issue with uploading a new image on all browsers. We will also be addressing this issue today.

There will be a notice here when these issues are resolved.

Thank you all for your support and patience.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Clive on March 03, 2022, 01:14:46 PM
I am sure that the team behind Shipspotting.com are pleased and excited by the new design.
I expect that there were issues with the previous website that meant that updating was necessary. Personally, I found the previous site, simple, attractive and straightforward to use. It 'ticked all my boxes'.
The new site? Well firstly I had to re-register with a new name and password etc as my previous details seemed not to be recognised. So that was annoying for a start. Simple, attractive and straightforward to use - not any more. The site is now visually unattractive - what one might call over designed - and it appears not to be straightforward to use. Frankly, I'd start again if I were you.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on March 03, 2022, 02:00:30 PM
As previously mentioned, log on failed with normal log on details, had to use my email address which I have not used before on this site.
Not a big problem though.
Now to explore the new site
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: CedricH on March 03, 2022, 06:46:17 PM
Hello,

I like the look of the new website but there are a few issues I have noticed:

As side info for the dev team if this is helpful, I'm using Safari on macOS and iOS and both systems are running the latest software versions. My Mac is an M1 version.

Thank you to the dev team for their continued efforts!

Kind regards
Cedric
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: adenanthos on March 03, 2022, 10:13:35 PM
When the "location" box is marked as "unknown" it cannot be undone at this moment, so no changes of location possible, please attend to this !

adenanthos
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 03, 2022, 10:45:43 PM
The new site is OK. I liked the old one but if somebody decided on change that is fine by me. We will get used to it.
Now the problems:

-I am at work now and I can log in using Chrome but at home I use Firefox on a desktop and can't log in. The page asks me to enter e-mail and password over and over again

-I uploaded one photo but it is not showing in "detailed listing" of my photos

-Under Locations ,the country of "Serbia and Montenegro" does not exist any more and has not existed since 2006! Needs to be updated to "Serbia" and "Montenegro" as two separate countries

- I like the feature that automatically adds the photos as you scroll down in "my photos"

 I guess more thoughts will come once all is in place and the bugs are sorted out.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony_Birdman on March 04, 2022, 12:01:57 AM
another website that has changed. i have noticed that when a website is changed to a new platform it just does not seen the same like its lost something many sites i visit has changed completely over the past few years most of them just terrible and i gave up on using them.

i think the old site was the best it was easy to use and it was what everyone was used to, i dont know why sites have to change is it no longer able to be run as it is hence why they change.
i just dont know if im gonna really use this site anymore now its all over the place and the format is terrible, i think i would have kept it as it was dont change something if it is running fine.

so the new site is a no for me, im sure others will think the same.

such a shame.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 04, 2022, 01:32:08 AM
Hugo has told me, and I can confirm, that log-in now functions on FIREFOX
He said that log-in also now works on SAFARI, but there are apparently some other issues affecting that browser which need further work.

The uploading problem is top of the pile for Friday.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Owen Foley on March 04, 2022, 02:11:37 AM
In Firefox, I can view individual photos when I search for a specific ship.
But when I click on new photos or most popular photos, all I see is the number of photos in that category but no display of any photos.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 04, 2022, 05:20:15 AM
Quote from: davidships on March 04, 2022, 01:32:08 AM
Hugo has told me, and I can confirm, that log-in now functions on FIREFOX
He said that log-in also now works on SAFARI, but there are apparently some other issues affecting that browser which need further work.

The uploading problem is top of the pile for Friday.

I can log in now using Firefox but the photos are not uploading. So I closed the window. And this is weird: a photo of a container ship in Australia is showing up instead. ???
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony Martin on March 04, 2022, 05:49:24 AM
Looking at and browsing the new website looks to be much improved and will be a leading ship enthusiast site. Takes a little time to get familiar with it however. Like all new websites there will be initial issues and it seems these are being addressed - great effort by the IT team. Couple of things I have noticed are firstly no need to log in to get full screen and also when looking at photos in most popular mode they scramble.  Comments only really appreciate the work being done.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henk Jungerius on March 04, 2022, 07:27:49 AM
The website works now much better, in my opinion a great improvement regarding the old website.
My internetnet browser is Microsoft edge and I can upload photo's by now only when I fill in the location the site doesn't upload, when I use the box unknown  the upload works.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on March 04, 2022, 07:44:15 AM
Photos with comments display their numbers that have nothing to do with actual number of comments.

(I don't know if I made myself clear.) :)

Example: actual number of comments on the photo: 3; number of comments as reported under the photo: 12.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Homer on March 04, 2022, 07:53:33 AM
Hi,

login in FF works now. Safari still not. As to the design : it looks to me a little bit too big in general. Due to this the comments are a bit hard to find , all the way at the bottom. Before everything was more or less visible on the screen without scrolling.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 04, 2022, 08:26:02 AM
Uploading new photos under Google Chrome
- upload in the beta-version was functioning much faster and without the problems mentioned below.
- with the message "your photo has been succesfully uploaded" I never see the photo itself or "the wheel" keeps turning and turning.
- clicking button "this photo" left of with the message "your photo has been succesfully uploaded" gives: 404 Page not found
- date in upload screen is USA-format: 1st march 2022 is 03/01/2022 instead of 01/03/2022
- list of "my uploaded photo" runs 15 minutes behind the reality: not the actual list of the recent uploads
- main screen "latest photos" same problem: does not show the uploads in the last 15 minutes
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on March 04, 2022, 08:29:59 AM
I have now finally been able to log in, so that is one hurdle taken. The first thing one gets to see is the home page, where I question the larger section devoted to "most popular categories" I already made such a remark when the beta version came on-site, as I think it adds nothing. The category with the most ships in it, will be the most popular category. As all chemical tankers and product tankers built over the last 52 years are still in one category, the winner is obvious. So this whole space can be used for other things, such as more space for comments or forum related issues, but can also be made smaller, so there is no need to scroll over the home page.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on March 04, 2022, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on March 04, 2022, 08:26:02 AM
...
- clicking button "this photo" left of with the message "your photo has been succesfully uploaded" gives: 404 Page not found
...

And this is what makes users upload the same photo over and over again, as they don't get the feedback that their photo is actually uploaded.

(The gallery on the title page was showing 4 identical photos uploaded by Pieter recently. I don't know if those were actual repeat uploads, or just a gallery algorithm acting up. But I had a double upload after a "404" error message, and then had to delete it. There are other examples.)

This issue of "Successfully uploaded" followed by 404 error has to be resolved.

Cheers

Vlad
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Axel Huettemann on March 04, 2022, 08:58:00 AM
Hi,

on the log-in site, left, there is a "t" missing in "shipspoting".

Maybe the "photos online" could be in smaller letters and not as a headline. My impression.

Is there any new funtionality? For example getting notified when one posts a comment under a photograph? Older comments under photographs not so popular and opened 100 times per hour were neglected and some good questions/comments with additional info in the comments never answered and read anylonger. At least that could be as an option switched on or off by each member individually to get notified when a comment posted under his photograph? Maybe bit tricky such feature?

Thx,
Axel
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on March 04, 2022, 12:56:33 PM
I think the most important thing now is just to stay calm, wait and hope that the site works properly.
In the last few days there are already some improvements that make hope.
You can also see that some new ships have been uploaded. Unfortunately I can't click on these ships, then an error appears with the message "404 Page not found". See the tanker "Invasion" from Axel from Do.
Also, I can't find the ENI number for a picture under General Information.

So dear Shipspotting friends, keep taking photos of ships and collect the pictures.

I love this site and I am proud to be a part of this great community. Thank you!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 04, 2022, 03:06:24 PM
About the comment of Lappino:
And this is what makes users upload the same photo over and over again, as they don't get the feedback that their photo is actually uploaded.

(The gallery on the title page was showing 4 identical photos uploaded by Pieter recently. I don't know if those were actual repeat uploads, or just a gallery algorithm acting up. But I had a double upload after a "404" error message, and then had to delete it. There are other examples.)

Indeed an algorithm problem. In my list of uploads is CARITAS the last one, but I uploaded three more after CARITAS. All three received the message "your photo has been uploaded". Not mentioned in my list so far. Not seen in the "last photos"section either: there is also the CARITAS the last one.

So three photos vanished in thin air............
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Bob Scott on March 04, 2022, 04:30:34 PM
Call signs change when a ship changes owners/flags.I do not see the point of including them in the title line along with the IMO numbers, which remain constant throughout the ships' lifetime. Uness the ship in the photo is as it was first built, the call-sign shown is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on March 04, 2022, 09:19:40 PM
If you click on the New Photos button one after the other, different pictures are displayed each time.
This is very strange. Even pictures that I have already uploaded, suddenly no longer appear in the new photos.
It's a pity that the search field can only be found on the start page. So I always have to copy the ENI number first and then call the start page.

I can
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 05, 2022, 01:50:43 AM
Just to note that I am keeping an eye on this page.  There is no need to repeat items already raised (unless we faldely claim something is fixed!) - if we need to get a broader view of something specific we will ask (probably in a specific form thread)

All will be addressed (obviously over time) - one or two suggestions may prove to impractical or have have undesirable side effects, but we will come to all that in turn.

The uploading issues are IT's priority (plus some basic fuction issues for Safari users)

David

PS
@Simon: I can see that many regular members like yourself are successfully self-deleting their own unwanted duplicates
If the problem persists, please email me with the photo/URLs at [email protected]
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 05, 2022, 06:42:14 AM
I tried to remove a photo but the wheel is just wiggling left-right endlessly. I uploaded m/v Berge Yotei taken in Vancouver but instead a container ship photo shows up taken by GERALDEEN member in Australia.

And thanks for all your work  :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 05, 2022, 08:18:38 AM
Been working in IT for 35 years and in my opinion problems like:
- slow upload (50 seconds each photo, former website only 5 seconds)
- in 20 uploads all the message "your photo has been uploaded" but in only 2 showing the photo in small format
- message "your photo has been uploaded" received but photo never seen again
- many messages "404 page not found" even half hour after upload
- unable to edit a photo, even half hour after upload or message "photo can not be found"
-etc

This all point in my opinion to server problems and not software problems. The server is overloaded, to slow, can't handle the amount of received data.
Mayby IT can research that direction.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on March 05, 2022, 09:01:58 AM
I note if you click on a ships photo that's on google images from this site, you get to the site ok but the photo isn't there.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: MattB on March 05, 2022, 12:27:36 PM
Just logged on to this new-look site.......blown away !! Looks amazing although for me some stuff doesn't work (yet). Is it a sort of "Beta" version?

I'm on Safari 14.1.1

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Deenik on March 05, 2022, 07:03:16 PM
- slow upload (50 seconds each photo, former website only 5 seconds)
- in 20 uploads all the message "your photo has been uploaded" but in only 2 showing the photo in small format
- message "your photo has been uploaded" received but photo never seen again
- many messages "404 page not found" even half hour after upload
- unable to edit a photo, even half hour after upload or message "photo can not be found"
-etc

Yesterday without problems 8 photo's uploaded,.
Now exactly the same problems as Pieter Inpijn had.
Only been able to upload one photo.
All the best,

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henk Jungerius on March 05, 2022, 07:43:01 PM
 Did upload several pictures,  message "your photo has been uploaded" received but some photo's never seen again
Regards Henk
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on March 05, 2022, 09:06:51 PM
Google can only find pictures with the old website address, i.e. http. And when you open the link you get Error 404. Is this a Google thing or are other search engines acting in the same way.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Owen Foley on March 06, 2022, 01:21:35 AM
It looks like the "most popular" photos are assessed by total hits (whatever that is).
Each photo shows a number for hits and another for total hits.

Uploading multiple images of the same ship is a lot more work with this new website.
Previously you could click the back button and just add the new photo.
But on the new website, all information has to be retyped in full for each image uploaded.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on March 06, 2022, 07:16:36 AM
Owen, total hits stands for the aggregate number of hits for the IMO number in question.  A quite useless statistic IMHO. 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Syzygy on March 06, 2022, 09:20:21 AM
I'm running Firefox 56; my experience so far:
- from the top menu of Home page, only the Home button -the one with the ship's wheel- seems to work;
- the rest,  "Upload / Log In /Sign Up" and "Home / Photos / Videos / ShipXplorer / Forum / Support / Contact" are dead;
- as for the Forum Topics, Top Categories, Latest Photo Comments and Latest Photos on Home page they do work, I'm prompted to the links when clicking them;
I'm writing this from Chrome, cannot log in on Firefox.

Update:
From the top menu, Home, Videos, ShipXplorer, Support and Contact buttons seem to be working now. Photos and Forum, and Log In buttons are still dead.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Baldizza on March 06, 2022, 12:38:21 PM
Hello. Just for information I can't have any photo if I put in the search the IMO number. Also if from google I search for example tanker IMO 9849291 in the list I find the shipspotting pages but when I  try to open them the message "404 Page not found" appears.
Regards. Baldizza.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: b47b56 on March 06, 2022, 12:52:42 PM
I tried to upload few photos but after 2 photos I didn't see any mark that my photo was uploaded.
Agree that upload is very slow.
1 photo uploaded, another show me 404 error.
My problems same with Patrick Deenik.

Regards, Evgeniy.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on March 06, 2022, 03:32:02 PM
Forum's working (obviously), but I get "Server error" message when I want to get the site title page...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 06, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Yes, Vlad, I had the same, but it was strange as the subsidiary pages seemed to work if opened directly, eg https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/search? (https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/search?)
But front page now seems OK
Confirm Firefox working for me

Quote
Just to note that I am keeping an eye on this page.  There is no need to repeat items already raised (unless we falsely claim something is fixed!) - if we need to get a broader view of something specific we will ask (probably in a specific form thread)

All will be addressed (obviously over time) - one or two suggestions may prove to impractical or have have undesirable side effects, but we will come to all that in turn.

The uploading issues are IT's priority (plus some basic fuction issues for Safari users)

David
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: MattB on March 06, 2022, 08:15:21 PM
I shall stay off website in the interim but keep taking photo's. Virtually nothing currently working for me except for Forum (I'm on MacBook) but I realise this is early stages of new format so don't wish to overload the Forum with some things others are also reporting. Keep up the good work. I'm fairly certain Ken Smith is looking down giving you guys the thumbs up !!  Stay safe. See you soon
Title: Opening Thumbnails to Full Screen
Post by: Bill on March 06, 2022, 11:53:09 PM
Since the web site format change, I've been unable to open some of the new photos beyond the thumbnail.  It flips me back to the home screen.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on March 07, 2022, 07:19:21 AM
since this morning I have the same experience as Bill ^, but I get Error 404.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on March 07, 2022, 04:56:48 PM
Dear members,

Since the forum upgrade and the deployment of the new website, as I'm sure all of you have noticed, there have been multiple issues.

Regarding the upload of new photos, it was completely inoperable since March 1st trough March 4th. Unfortunately, almost all photos created during this period had to be removed as there was no way of recovering them. I ask you to re-upload them when you can, if you haven't yet done so.

We will continue to work out any outstanding issues, prioritizing erros, site access, performance and user experience.

We would like to tank you all for your feedback, support and understanding, in the sense that this is a phase of change for ShipSpotting.com and it will take some time until everything is stabilized.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henk Jungerius on March 08, 2022, 06:47:30 AM
Hallo
I can upload pictures but the problem is that the little steering wheel keeps turning and when I look after let's say two minutes the picture has uploaded to the website  but I don't get the notice your picture has been uploaded.
Kind Regards
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 09, 2022, 05:32:20 AM
Quote from: Henk Jungerius on March 08, 2022, 06:47:30 AM
Hallo
I can upload pictures but the problem is that the little steering wheel keeps turning and when I look after let's say two minutes the picture has uploaded to the website  but I don't get the notice your picture has been uploaded.
Kind Regards

Same with me. I guess it is a work in progress as its a major pain to upload this way.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: b47b56 on March 09, 2022, 08:36:12 AM
Some of my uploads still ends with 404 error or after long time become available.
I don't have any mark when my uploads completed.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Marpacifico on March 09, 2022, 09:20:27 AM
After all the mess I see here right now :( I would like to say Never touch a running system :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pilot Frans on March 09, 2022, 11:09:07 AM
It seems the 404 error is solved the newest picture I'm able to load again.

In the section photos, by new ships: some doesn't show up.
Maybe  because the IMO was wrong and changed. In the older version you get a note : (something like) picture removed/replaced.
Now you just wait and nothing happened.

NB: I still waiting for uploading untill the problems with the time are solved.
       Rome is also not built in one day . 8)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pilot Frans on March 09, 2022, 11:17:42 AM
I noticed that the comments by the picture are now completly at the bottom of that page.

In my opinion it's nicer to have them just after the technical data or before the general data.

regards
Frans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Barry Graham on March 09, 2022, 11:54:23 AM
Apologies if this type of problem has been raised before but the following has been my experience.  On 4 March I uploaded two photographs of the general cargo ship Vertom Meridiaan.   The first seemed to upload satisfactorily.  The second appears only as a thumbnail and any attempt to click on it to enlarge it results in an error 404 Page Not Found message.  One problem with this is that I am unable to access it to delete or edit it.  Having worked in IT myself I don't underestimate the efforts involved in an upgrade on this scale and I have no doubt that these initial problems will be ironed out.  Respect and thanks to all concerned.  Barry
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on March 10, 2022, 04:01:07 AM
Meanwhile, the upload sometimes works really fast, it takes less than 10 seconds. However, there are also uploads there it takes up to 5 minutes. However, I can give you a tip on how to recognize that the image has been uploaded. Just open a second tab and look at the new photos section. As soon as the photo appears here, you can close the upload tab. This is very helpful and makes uploading easier.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 10, 2022, 05:15:58 AM
Thank you Simon, good idea.
One more thing: I tried to delete some photos from my "favourites" (formerly known as "bookmarked"). A sign pops up saying "deleted" but the photos are still in the "favourites" list. You have to leave the page and then come back to it for the photos to be gone.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henry Casciaro on March 10, 2022, 07:34:10 AM
Since no one has commented or replied to my message of a week ago and although moderators have said they will eventually cover all points here are my problems again. Still cannot access full screen photos
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: LPX on March 10, 2022, 10:56:57 AM
A link "This ship by this Photographer" was handy for quick check to avoid duplicates etc.
Can't find this link anymore. Is it planned to retrieve it?

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on March 10, 2022, 12:31:31 PM
Hi LPX on a photo you must go to "Photographers of this ship" and click in the photographer name, before was easier  and simple like the site itself
regrds
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 10, 2022, 03:48:27 PM
Quote from: victor radio74 on March 10, 2022, 12:31:31 PM
Hi LPX on a photo you must go to "Photographers of this ship" and click in the photographer name, before was easier  an simple like the site itself
regrds

Agree with this. I preferred the "this ship by this photographer" etc . functions. Ships that don't have IMO also don't have the "photographers of this ship" function.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 10, 2022, 04:36:10 PM
There are indeed several functions not currently working unless there is an IMO.  I expect that they will be restored in due course.
But just to add that "More of this ship" was not always very helpful, especially if it was a common ship name.  I think that you will currently get the same result for non-IMO ships by entering the name in the search box and select "exact name".

@Henry Casciaro: I am not understanding exactly about your problem and will send you a PM in a few minutes.  Please ensure that you are logged in, and you should see the PM icon lighted up next to your user name at the top of the page.

@Simon Harrack:  Thank you for highlighting a practical way to avoid duplicate uploads - that is very useful, especially at the moment.

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tomasello Letterio on March 10, 2022, 08:42:11 PM
Good evening.
Now the upload function seems to be restored with better speed, and no need to change tab to check upload, I suppose that IT team is making a hard hork to solve soonest all issues.
Great work. Thanks to all
Best regards
Letterio
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Timsen on March 11, 2022, 09:01:07 AM
Also if I post a comment, there is no sign it has been really fixed, only a turning wheel. Only by coming back to the photo I see it has been added.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on March 11, 2022, 03:05:06 PM
Can't seem to navigate or even log out from photo pages, I can from the home page.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: simonwp on March 11, 2022, 03:39:19 PM
It seems every day different problems.

Today's issues:

1. Cannot select photo to upload

2. Location box does not populate as you type in the name

3. Cannot check terms and conditions box

As a result, still cannot upload photographs

Browser: Edge.

Using Chrome, cannot even log in.

I know a lot of work is being put in to resolving all the issues, but, at the moment, for me the site is unusable.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 11, 2022, 03:52:40 PM
I like that photos are automatically added as you scroll down but then the "limit" photos per page button is not needed.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony Martin on March 12, 2022, 06:25:14 AM
Whereas I fully appreciate the amount of work that has been put into the development of this site, and the intent to improve it, I must admit I am not enjoying it as much at the moment and am drifting away. Probably a personal issue with me, finding it hard to navigate.  Photos do not seem to get the same number of hits anymore, not that it is an issue more an indication.  Photos scramble when looking at the most popular mode. Shipspotting used to differentiate from similar sites, to me it is now somewhat the same. My personal view, I am sure many are happy with it and will take it forward. Not a criticism, just how I feel at the moment.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Bob Scott on March 12, 2022, 11:04:01 AM
As the teething troubles get ironed out and I get used to the navigation of the new site, I am coming to like it more than the old version.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: simonwp on March 12, 2022, 04:06:45 PM
Whatever someone did overnight, all the problems I had yesterday have gone. So thanks to all involved. It's taken a while, but, as far as I'm concerned, the site is where it should be.

Just got to get used to the new format, that will come.....

Thanks again everyone
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Wolfgang Fricke on March 12, 2022, 05:31:10 PM
After some start problems the website works well and I like the design :). The only proposal I have is to show on the home page the mostly viewed photos during the past 24 hours, not those of the past seven days - like on the old webpage.
Best regards
Wolfgang
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: rarcand on March 12, 2022, 06:14:14 PM
Hi,

On the "Search results" for the casualties category, the "postcard" for the KRYMSKIY KOMSOMOLETS (https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3401410) states that there are 6 comments. When I reach the page, I can see only two, the last one from me. I am using Chrome on Windows. I do not know if this problem is specific to this entry.

Also, will there be something done or possible for the links in the comments to url from the old site which give only error 404?

Otherwise, I am really happy with the new site et thanks everyone involved.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 13, 2022, 03:10:30 AM
Agree with the other members. The site seems to be working well and I like it.

However, in the "Location" category, if one enters port of Kotor or Bar, the country of Serbia and Montenegro appear. This country does not exist any longer and hasn't existed since 2006. These are two separate countries and the site should reflect that. We do have few members from Montenegro and they will find it upsetting that first their country is not included in the list and now in the "new and improved" version their country is listed with a wrong name. Please correct this..
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 13, 2022, 08:05:36 AM
Mentioned in the inventory of wishes and ideas for a new website in 2020 and repeatedly mentioned again when testing the beta version at the beginning of 2022:

Vessels with an ENI-number must be equal treated as ships with an IMO-number.

Search function is now name or IMO, must also allow ENI.

In the detail box for inland vessels the ENI-field has even disappeared, that has to be corrected a.s.a.p.

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Malcolm Cranfield on March 13, 2022, 04:59:36 PM
Dear Hugo, thanks for your helpful interaction with contributors to Shipspotting website

Having experienced difficulty with posting some photographs on Saturday 5th March, and subsequently "off line" until today, I am pleased to confirm that the posting just now of two photographs of MSC JOY proved to be trouble free except that it was necessary to re-insert all the ship and photograph details again for the second post.

I would ask if, when doing a Google search on a ship name/Shipspotting, if the search can (as before the change) go straight to the ship's photographs rather than being directed to the Shipspotting home page to again insert the ship's name or IMO number.

Best regards. Malcolm Cranfield
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: LPX on March 14, 2022, 08:05:46 AM
Using Edge browser it will save the "category of ship" in the "Upload new photo" form for further downloads, the rest need to be refilled again, and for Opera, Mozilla is saving nothing. At least Mozilla was saving every data previously. Alternatively to refilling data for everty single photo now could be "Select file" for 4 files at the same time since a daily limit of 4 files on the site.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on March 14, 2022, 10:22:35 AM
I've been holding off uploading for a while, tried yesterday and it now works ok (Chrome) - however it is still very annoying that clicking on forum topics or latest comments opens up a new tab.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 14, 2022, 08:12:57 PM
New photos keep popping up in multiple quantities and are disappearing a few seconds later. Most annoying while viewing new photos. See two examples.   I am starting to lose my pleasure in this website. I see no improvements.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on March 15, 2022, 04:36:06 AM
This reminds me of a story about our new software that we were supposed to use for work, but it was barely functional, up to a point where experienced workers were leaving our company when they could suffer no more... :) We then had to hire more people, because one person could do only so much, and now a 20 minute job took one hour to complete. Frustration was rampant, but then they've finally made it work, and it was a breeze, and things were running smoothly for some time - until it was completely discontinued due to higher level business decisions...

My .02$ is: patience. Patience will eventually be rewarded. (I hope.)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on March 15, 2022, 04:05:13 PM
Since the launch of new website design, I've decided to step back just a bit. With most on line/on site activity now relegated to viewing comments made by other members. (While "test driving" new site design, I'm uploading only periodically). My latest upload being PRT HOPE, drew my attention to what appears to be an anomaly having to do with dates. I've noticed with (my) uploads, the date I actually took the photo and the capture date the site showing is different. My latest PRT HOPE photo was taken on January 7, yet the site is showing January 6 as capture date. Other examples: Venus History-taken January 1. Site showing capture date Dec. 31. Bella Ann-taken January 4. Site showing capture date January 5. The site is either showing an advanced date or a prior date to when photo was actually taken....? I've tried correcting date using the "edit" feature, however it defaults to a different date.

Sidebar: Being the old goat that I am and while not averse to change, I will miss the old version of ShipSpotting (Notwithstanding some of its shortcomings). It was the format above all that attracted me to the site, (over the Vesseltracker's and Fleetmon's of the world).  The former site design was practical to use. Easy to navigate, with clear, concise and compartmentalized features. That, among other characteristics, is what separated it from the others.  Nevertheless, in spite of the "growing pains", I'm sure over time the new site design will evolve.

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: teachers on March 15, 2022, 08:15:36 PM
If it aint broke dont fix it, bring back the old format with a few subtle changes.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Johnny Holmen on March 16, 2022, 06:15:26 AM
The new design DO NOT present the photos into a paged system/archive, it makes it difficult to revert where you are in the achive when returning back from browsing ship details.

This functionality need to be restored (worked fine in the original version of shipspotting).
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 18, 2022, 05:55:50 AM
One of my photos show that it has 3 comments, but when I click on it only one comment is there. Is there a problem displaying comments?

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3403261
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 18, 2022, 09:32:48 AM
Website is functioning better now, upload much faster than before, but some requests:

Home page: Most viewed last 7 days, replace it with Most viewed in the last 24 hours, as on the former website.
Remove the likes-button: likes was never an item on this website.
Replace the likes-button with number of views & number of comments: those two items have real value for the members.
In the present situation I am looking for a week to the same two or three photos without knowing why.

Home page: Last photo comments. The list is to small to be of interest. The list on the former website was made much larger on request of the members. And repeated remarks like "Nice shot Cheers Ronald" make it even more useless. The list was intended to give additional info for some photos and gives the members also an insight in possible interesting photos. Please make the list longer, for instance by adding more "categories" next to it.

Home page: Presentation of latest photos.  Add IMO and ENI to the vessel name.
Remove the likes-button: likes was never an item on this website.
Replace the Likes-button with number of views & number of comments: those two items have real value for the members.

Showing a photo of an inland vessel: add ENI in the photo details box. IMO is already mentioned for seagoing vessels, why not ENI because it is for inland vessels the  key for registration as is IMO for seagoing vessels.
And mentioned several times before: make ENI the key for inland vessels as is IMO for seagoing vessels, than that message "This ship is not assigned to any other category." is gone as well.

And some feedback on these proposals would be nice...............

Regards,  Pieter Inpijn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: davidships on March 18, 2022, 01:52:01 PM
@Pieter I.
When we are sure that the uploading functionality is fit for purpose some of these other issues can be tackled. 
But, meanwhile, just to note:

a) Photocomment list.  Yes it should be longer (indeed, we asked a while back for more, not fewer, than the previous site).
b) The previous site has had "likes" for quite a few years - maybe about 10 - introduced I think in Ken Smith's time in an attempt to reduce the dependence on just "hits" for the so-called "top photos" which were being manipulated by some.  "Likes" were not much used, but will be incorporated in the algorithm for top photos, I think.
c) adding functionality for ENI numbers is certainly on the To Do list.  But there will, I think, be a few tech complications to be sorted, so please be patient.
d) front page photos - I think that it was changed to prevent duplicate photos.  Will consider further
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: teachers on March 18, 2022, 05:47:37 PM
Hi Pieter,

i fully agree with your reccomendations.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: MattB on March 19, 2022, 06:14:23 PM
Hi Forum,

I'm pleased to report I'm able to upload photographs to the new site without any hitches. I'm still getting used to it of course. To all involved a huge thanks. For me, it's an absolute pleasure to navigate, clear, concise. It's just a wonderful experience. I especially like the Full Screen without having to log-in. (I'm using Safari)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on March 20, 2022, 02:57:00 PM
Is there a shortcut in new design, whereby a photographer can access his/her photos (not knowing vsl name/IMO), going back to either day one or anything in between, without having to endlessly scroll down page after page...? In the sort feature only "newest first" and "most popular" selection available. In the old version, a photographer could go from first page to last page with a click of the mouse. Perhaps this feature was incorporated somewhere in new design and I simply can't find it...? (Senior moment).....     :-)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on March 21, 2022, 06:39:35 AM
Whats the different between hits and total hits on a photo? 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on March 21, 2022, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Finnigan on March 21, 2022, 06:39:35 AM
Whats the different between hits and total hits on a photo?

Hits is on that photo, total is across all photos of that vessel.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on March 22, 2022, 03:23:39 PM
When i click on "photo search" it then appears for a split second then vanishes to a completely blank white page  :(

Is the search box going to be fully working soon?

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Michael Neidig on March 26, 2022, 05:00:24 PM
Sorry to say, but I don
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on March 26, 2022, 05:08:54 PM
Michael, it took me a while to find that out, but click on your name, and a screen will open that show a blue column on the left with three options. Click on Photo, and you will have everything you want.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: tvtech on March 26, 2022, 08:34:47 PM
I really don't like the new shipspotting look. I think it's a step backwards. I've been a member here for many years and used to look forward every day to check out the latest photos.
Now I've lost all interest. I couldn't be bothered anymore to pop in. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels like this. Should of kept the old shipspotting format. Now it's not nice anymore.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on March 26, 2022, 09:13:50 PM
Meanwhile, a few weeks have passed since the new site is available and many things are really great. Great work of the developers. A big thank you for that. There are still a few small things to improve. I would like to see the eni number under the photo in the general information. (like it was on the old site).
Only today the upload of the pictures unfortunately makes no fun. the side is so slow and it appears again and again the message "Error 522 Connection timed out" appears again and again. In addition, the images in the individual sections do not load and also when uploading this message appears again and again. I uploaded two pictures within 20 minutes.
I say goodbye for today here and try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Jens Boldt on March 27, 2022, 07:36:16 AM
Trying to correct a name like FS L\'Aigle M647 to FS L'Aigle M647 in the photo manager isn't possible. The following error occurs:

Error 2: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'Aigle M647' WHERE lid='3406499'' at line 1

Cheers
Jens
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Michael Neidig on March 27, 2022, 10:19:45 AM
Sorry Pieter, may be I
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on March 27, 2022, 06:30:14 PM
Hi Michael, try the name on the top of the page, next to upload...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Michael Neidig on March 28, 2022, 10:07:14 AM
That
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on March 28, 2022, 11:15:40 AM
At the moment many issues in this unfortunate new site, in my case a photo of ANA GANDON imo 9249532 uploaded Feb.13 2017 appears with all the information but NO image
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Barry Graham on March 28, 2022, 03:13:43 PM
One thing I've noticed recently is that the number of likes and comments recorded against a particular photo is greater in the thumbnail version than in the enlarged version.  The latter is correct (at least for comments).   Also, I find it slightly irritating that after clicking on a particular photograph when scrolling through a list I'm taken back to the start of the listing. 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Bj on March 28, 2022, 06:40:51 PM
Quote from: tvtech on March 26, 2022, 08:34:47 PM
I really don't like the new shipspotting look. I think it's a step backwards. I've been a member here for many years and used to look forward every day to check out the latest photos.
Now I've lost all interest. I couldn't be bothered anymore to pop in. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels like this. Should of kept the old shipspotting format. Now it's not nice anymore.
Same to me , the old one was easy t navigate .
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 28, 2022, 07:40:47 PM
Quote from: Barry Graham on March 28, 2022, 03:13:43 PM
One thing I've noticed recently is that the number of likes and comments recorded against a particular photo is greater in the thumbnail version than in the enlarged version.  The latter is correct (at least for comments).   Also, I find it slightly irritating that after clicking on a particular photograph when scrolling through a list I'm taken back to the start of the listing.

Agree with this. You scroll 100 or so pix down, click on a photo, click back and you are back at the beginning of the list again
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on March 29, 2022, 09:10:10 AM
Do we get some statement to the effect that "new site design is up and running", or is it still a "work in progress"?

The "funny" numbers of comments (which equals the number of "likes") was already reported before, but I understand that the new design is still being ironed out...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on March 29, 2022, 07:43:52 PM
Sorry,very sorry indeed with the new site,I have noted that one can give likes to his own photo
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on March 29, 2022, 07:54:35 PM
To be honest you can give only 1 like to your photo,then no big problem
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on March 29, 2022, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: victor radio74 on March 29, 2022, 07:43:52 PM
Sorry,very sorry indeed with the new site,I have noted that one can give likes to his own photo

This was doable on the old site, too. Actually, on the old site, if you click fast enough, you could give 2 likes to yourself. But, IMO, it is a sad state of affairs if somebody gives likes to own photos to make others think that somebody clicked like. 

Also, Montenegro still does not appear as country. Is this work in progress too? Any comments from the admins?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on April 01, 2022, 10:49:29 PM
It's likely some of these issues previously raised among the numerous comments made so far...
Currently using Edge on PC and experiencing multiple issues with new site................
The box that reads "Drop up to 5 files here...." not accepting one file, let alone multiple files.
Several days ago I tried using contact form addressing some issues I'm experiencing using new site design and while form acknowledges message with the line...."Thank you for your message. We read all your emails and we'll try to answer them", I wonder if this feature indeed active or still a work in progress...?
Some issues raised using contact form include....
-  limited options in "Sort feature" (Newest first or Most popular first). Previous site allowed a photographer to access any of their photos going
   back to their first upload made on the site or any other time in between with the click of the mouse. In other words the previous design
   compartmentalized the photos (using pages) whereas with new design it seems endless scrolling is required to view an old upload.....?
-  Incorrect date om my photos.
-  Site generates "Error 521" when generally browsing though photos.
-  No image appearing. Then, hours later or next day there is an image...?

Given how "busy" the new design is with its multiple components to each page (photos/panels with info/increased scrolling, etc., etc.),  the new design, (based on what I've  experienced so far), has made it awkward or cumbersome (moreso for some than others) when trying to upload photos, etc.
The new design on a mobile device not as user friendly as with previous design. Perhaps it all goes back to the format and design of previous site that more conveniently "fit" the size of screen. Whether it be on a PC or mobile device...?

The new Shipspotting site, by emulating its design after some of the other on line ship tracking/uploading sites, has obviously certain challenges to overcome.  Nevertheless, I can understand the frustration expressed by some members in regards to its functionality vs that of the former site.

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: volker1948 on April 02, 2022, 09:22:06 AM
You are so right, andrecas!!!!https://forum.shipspotting.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Brett Moore on April 03, 2022, 01:07:27 PM
After finally managing to sign in, and reading numerous members experiences i.r.o the new site, I tried to remain open and positive. I am not a paying subcriber so felt it was inapproriate to comment up until now. Really not fond of the new site. Hardly login anymore....just my view. :( :'(
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: b47b56 on April 04, 2022, 07:10:49 PM
Many Thanks for "Drop up to 5 files here....". Working on Chrome.
Additionally thanks to everybody who is continue to fix issues and bugs which sometimes happen, but now really see that new design is working each day better.

Regards, Evgeniy.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: rarcand on April 05, 2022, 01:02:08 AM
Hi,

Am I the only one who have to sign in two times before the site acknowledge my identity? While this is not a great problem, I think it is not a normal situation.

I do like the new site, particularly some of the new features like be able to start a search by using the hyperlinks, for exemple the location of pictures.

I hope the best for Shipspotting and thank for all the work.





Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on April 05, 2022, 06:10:09 AM
I only signed in once and the site remembers me.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on April 05, 2022, 02:48:28 PM
I do not understand the reason of the new feature "Drop up to 5 files here....".
The rule was: four photos of each vessel taken on one single day.
I do not see that rule in the support section anymore.
In case still valid the "Drop up to 5 files here...." will add additional work for the admin team, checking for the dates.
Also there is the "30 degree difference in view" rule.
Now five photos of each vessel result in more of the same, not very interesting.
Multiple upload is nice but two was for me okay.
Just my opinion.

Pieter Inpijn

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on April 05, 2022, 04:17:22 PM
Hi  Pieter, the site at the moment is a mess,in fact if I click in support no indications at all,so... I miss the great old version,if you have a RollsRoyce car you shouldn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: manuscan on April 05, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
I am absolutely agree with you.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 06, 2022, 06:12:35 AM
Quote from: victor radio74 on April 05, 2022, 04:17:22 PM
Hi  Pieter, the site at the moment is a mess,in fact if I click in support no indications at all,so... I miss the great old version,if you have a RollsRoyce car you shouldn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: volker1948 on April 06, 2022, 08:45:40 AM
Hello victor radio 74.You,re absolutely right.Maybe I,m too conservative or just a little bit stupid,but the old site was better.Everything was found immediately and it was more fun!!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: libertyshiplad on April 06, 2022, 10:08:29 AM
I do wish there could be far more "Comments" shown,as was the case previously.
Always interesting.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 06, 2022, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: libertyshiplad on April 06, 2022, 10:08:29 AM
I do wish there could be far more "Comments" shown,as was the case previously.
Always interesting.

I was told that the size of the comments box will be increased soon.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Jens Boldt on April 08, 2022, 09:22:34 PM
Thanks for all the effort put into the redesign of the website. It's really, really great that the ENI no. now has the same funtionality as the IMO no.
Made my day! :)

Cheers
Jens
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Juan Carlos C. on April 09, 2022, 02:30:57 PM
Hi to all..
I had limited myself to write something about the new site, but the truth is that it is already a bit disappointing, I have been a member of this community since 2007 with a little more than 9000 photos uploaded, and I am also a volunteer administrator, but For me, I don't like the system of the new site, right now I can't upload photos from my cell phone, which I had always done without problems, as I always get NETWORK ERROR, I agree with several friends about their opinions, but the change was very fast , I know that the site is being worked on, but let's be realistic, even the visits have dropped, and I think the same thing is happening that happened with the Shipsnostalgia page, they redesigned the site and many emigrated or simply didn't come back anymore. I have to wait for the problems to be solved soon so that we can return to being the community as before, many visits, many comments on the photographs, for the moment I will not be able to continue uploading photos from my cell phone until the problem can be solved.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony Martin on April 10, 2022, 07:23:28 AM
Absolutely frustrated with this site. I have tried to post a photograph of HMAS Leeuwin fifteen times, keeps telling me " invalid or missing parameters". Checked all and no problems. Sorry I am now just another drifting away.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on April 10, 2022, 09:13:24 AM
Sorry to hear about difficulties using the new site. Since 12 March I have posted 116 photos by desktop and notebook through Windows 10 and Firefox browser and have not experienced any abnormalities at all, not with single shots or multiples. Sometimes it took a bit longer to upload but always about similar to the old site.
Rgds, Manfred
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Weserphoto on April 10, 2022, 09:46:56 AM
The three fields "Location", "Date of photo" and "Description" are apparently mandatory. When I tried a test upload and did not enter anything there, I got this very error message and the three fields were highlighted with a red border.

I then only ticked "Unknown" with "Date of photo" and "Location" and entered some text in the description field and the upload worked without problems.

So please check whether you filled these fields with data at all. Of course we should enter real data with our uploads. :-)


Regards,
Weserphoto

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on April 10, 2022, 04:46:25 PM
Hello to all of you, firstly I want to say, that I`m very glad about the changes concerning ENI numbers, many thanks to IT for this improvement !

What I am really concerned about, however, is the dwindling number of visits to this site. Many things work well meanwhile but I have the impression that many important items could not yet be adressed by the IT-Team. Just one example, the background colour is mainly white which is very unpleasant and fatiguing for the eyes. Is this recognized ?

One point which is very annoying in my opinion, is that when selecting the main page of a vessel the default picture is shown in a lower quality. So you have to select "Full Screen" all the time. Does this make sense for a website which describes itself as the site with "The Best  Ship Information and Ship Photos" ? This is neither acceptable nor comprehensible for me.

Another point : Why are still only seven comments shown ? These comments are vital for the community of this site, please IT-team, consider the importance of this section. Additionally the comments should be shown much closer to the photograph without scrolling too much.

Next point : The presentation of the "Most Viewed Last 7 Days" on the front page is boring and useless in my opinion, better change this to "Most Viewed Last 24 Hours".

If I search an older picture of my collection I have to scroll endlessly. This was done much better on the old website with counting numbers of pages, simple and effective. Why was this changed ? It seems that the new site will require much more work to be done before eventually getting as excellent as the old one was. I'm not complaining though but  concerned that many members will possibly not have the patience to wait for a long time. And IT-team, please increase the communication with the members, they are certainly eager to hear from you more often.

In any case many thanks to the whole IT-team for the excellent work up to now, it's much appreciated.

Best wishes, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Dеnis on April 10, 2022, 07:32:06 PM
I wish it was possible to bulk-download ALL own uploaded photos (original size).  I have like 95% of all my uploaded photos existing only on Shipspotting.com since I lost all of them on my hard drive long ago, so I wonder how I can transfer them from site to my drive without manually going through each uploaded photo link.

Btw, noticed that clicking on "Full screen" now opens photos in new tabs - thanks!!!


Please, add "Detailed Listing" to https://www.shipspotting.com/photo/favorites so it would make it as sortable (by name, date added, category) & scrolabble GALLERY as how it is for https://www.shipspotting.com/photo/uploaded after clicking the "Detailed Listing" there.


On https://www.shipspotting.com/profile/stats/photo when clicking on "View more" in Most Liked/Favourited photos - it goes to https://www.shipspotting.com/videos instead of seeing more own photos by liked/favourited --- please fix it.

On any ship photo page: it's SHIP NAME - IMO NUMBER - CALLSIGN CODE above the photo. I think the callsign isn't needed to be there, only name, IMO or ENI.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on April 11, 2022, 01:01:50 AM
Where is everybody? I scrolled through photos of the last week or so and most of them have single digit views or in low teens. Very few have more then 20-25.
Also, ports of Kotor and Bar are shown to be in Serbia and Montenegro even thou that country does not exist any longer. For a website that prides itself as being the best, it is 16  years outdated with the world's events.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on April 11, 2022, 02:52:11 AM
The views are definitely weaker than before; my understanding is that only the full screen views are counted, and since the list photos are larger now, fewer people are clicking the "full screen" button. The numbers of photos uploaded does not seem to be much smaller than before, though...

As for "Serbia and Montenegro", who knows, maybe the site (rather than being obsolete) is looking into the future (demonic laughter)...  ;D
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 11, 2022, 07:15:58 AM
Quote from Seaweasel: Just one example, the background colour is mainly white which is very unpleasant and fatiguing for the eyes. Is this recognized ?

Really, do you never read a book any more? Too tiring? The home page with dark blue and pale white characters is hardly readable.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on April 11, 2022, 09:51:00 AM
Hello Pieter, the comparison of a book page with a computer screen  in respect of eye fatigue is not appropriate in my opinion. Please ask a doctor about the very different impact of both media....

However this is not one of the bigger problems of the new site but it does add to the impression that several changes on the site are not for the better. Of course we all hope that many issues will be adressed by the IT-team in the nearer future and everybody should have enough patience to wait for that and stay with this site.

Best wishes, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on April 11, 2022, 11:03:29 AM
I can.t read any summary user profile
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 11, 2022, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: seaweasel on April 11, 2022, 09:51:00 AM
Hello Pieter, the comparison of a book page with a computer screen  in respect of eye fatigue is not appropriate in my opinion. Please ask a doctor about the very different impact of both media....

However this is not one of the bigger problems of the new site but it does add to the impression that several changes on the site are not for the better. Of course we all hope that many issues will be adressed by the IT-team in the nearer future and everybody should have enough patience to wait for that and stay with this site.

Best wishes, Hans

I know that, but I got irritated by the fact that some people throw things at the IT team as if they own the site. Please do not forget that what is on offer here is free of charge, and providing access to larger resolution photos than any other shipping site  (AFAIK). So yes, you may have complaints that others may not have but it will always be a compromise. And furthermore the age of many of the users (including me) is well beyond the time when we had a flexible attitude towards changes.  What would be interesting here is to know how a new visitor to the site, without knowing how it once was, would react, and what criticisms he would have.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on April 11, 2022, 01:24:41 PM
Hi Pieter Melissen, in my view we had a very good site .I don
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on April 11, 2022, 02:12:55 PM
Hello, I agree with both of you, Pieter and victor radio 74. The contributions of the members uploading photographs have made this site so succesful and patience of all involved is certainly needed. I have really no problem with that and appreciate the work of the IT-team a lot. But in the end - like victor radio 74 said - the result should logically be equally good or better than the replaced version which was excellent indeed.

Cheers, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 11, 2022, 02:33:23 PM
Hi Victor, just for the record, I just uploaded a shot of Jonni Ritscher, which clearly exceeds the size limitations imposed by the previous version of the site. And it does not have the ugly watermark that the computers of Marine Traffic apply to every photo.
There are more improvements on the way, so as Hans says, patience will be the key, and at the end we may be able to subjectively judge whether the old site was better (but certainly not safer).
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on April 12, 2022, 02:15:04 AM
Quote from: Weserphoto on April 10, 2022, 09:46:56 AM
The three fields "Location", "Date of photo" and "Description" are apparently mandatory. When I tried a test upload and did not enter anything there, I got this very error message and the three fields were highlighted with a red border.

I then only ticked "Unknown" with "Date of photo" and "Location" and entered some text in the description field and the upload worked without problems.

So please check whether you filled these fields with data at all. Of course we should enter real data with our uploads. :-)


Regards,
Weserphoto

This feature has a bug that's creating problems during upload.

The site does not recognize information saved from the browser; when entering the data on, say, "Location", if the data is autocompleted from the browser, the location will appear in the field correctly, but you will still get the "red border" and "Invalid parameter" error.

To correct this, data has to be entered manually again, until the site's own data appears. You do not want to use "autocomplete" from your browser. This has to be addressed by the programmers.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Eddie Walker on April 12, 2022, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: lappino on April 11, 2022, 02:52:11 AM
The views are definitely weaker than before; my understanding is that only the full screen views are counted, and since the list photos are larger now, fewer people are clicking the "full screen" button. The numbers of photos uploaded does not seem to be much smaller than before, though...

Are we sure the view counter is working at all, though? I posted this photo 10 days ago:
https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3409064 (https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3409064) which, so far, has had precisely zero views. Okay, a fairly ordinary vessel, but a decent photo at a less common location which I thought might have piqued someone's interest...

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 12, 2022, 05:05:34 PM
Eddie, It may have to do with the way new photos are now being presented. In the past you looked at them one by one, and now your photo will be one of four before the next scroll.   
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Jens Boldt on April 12, 2022, 05:22:04 PM
Eddie, when I follow your link, I see "Verdi" at Gunness, so far 12 views... (or as it is called now: hits). :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Deenik on April 13, 2022, 06:07:55 PM
Hello,

I am trying to upload 2 photo's of the vessel  'MSC Erica"and I get the message "invalid or missing parameter ". Also I get the message that
"no ships Found "while there are 42 photo's of this ship are on this site. I had this problem several times in the last few days.
Am I doing something wrong or are there more people with the same problems ?

Thank you  and all the best,

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Deenik on April 13, 2022, 06:40:16 PM
Hello again,

I just managed to upload the 2 Photo's above mentioned. After trying several times again I deleted the "Location" and typed the name again and then all was accepted. Do you understand this or am I missing something ?

Thank you again .

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on April 13, 2022, 07:46:39 PM
Patrick, see Lappino's post a little above yours. How it works I do not know, but retyping seems to be a good idea.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Deenik on April 13, 2022, 09:00:35 PM
Pieter,

Thank you for your reaction.That is exactly what happened to me. If that is all,I can live with it.

Best regards,

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Eddie Walker on April 14, 2022, 10:13:28 AM
Quote from: Jens Boldt on April 12, 2022, 05:22:04 PM
Eddie, when I follow your link, I see "Verdi" at Gunness, so far 12 views... (or as it is called now: hits). :)
Thanks, Jens. That seems to have kick-started the views!
I've just uploaded another photo and firstly got the 'invalid parameter' error, which I got around by setting the location to 'unknown', then going back and editing the uploaded photo.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Deenik on April 15, 2022, 08:35:39 AM
After retyping the "Location " 5 times without succes I clicked "unknown "under "Location " and with a possitive result as suggested by Eddie Walker.

Need to be looked at .

Thank you,

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on April 15, 2022, 11:04:28 AM
Hello, many thanks to the IT-team for expanding the comments section, that's a very good thing for the community !

Cheers, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on April 21, 2022, 09:35:18 AM
I noticed that photographs uploaded since the beginning of March have "Shipspotting.com ... Image Copyright
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on April 21, 2022, 09:39:42 AM
A separate issue: what's the blank "ShipSpotting.com Forum" post in the attached screenshot?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on April 22, 2022, 08:13:10 AM
About the front page / home page: the four photos under "Most Popular Last 24 Hours".
Am I the only one that is seeing four different photos each time I go the home page?
Sometimes it even shows a photo that I have uploaded a few minutes ago.
See attached JPG-file.
On the same page the button PHOTOS / MOST POPULAR 24 HOURS shows the correct photos and views.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Clydee on April 22, 2022, 10:22:30 AM
It is not only you Pieter

It is a problem that needs to be fixed

As you say, the button PHOTOS / MOST POPULAR 24 HOURS shows the correct photos and views.


Clyde
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on April 22, 2022, 01:08:54 PM
Talking on glitchs the like button doesn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on April 22, 2022, 07:16:17 PM
Like button is fine now
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on April 25, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: victor radio74 on April 22, 2022, 01:08:54 PM
...and I wondering if there is also something wrong with the hits,so few now

Example: 40 photos uploaded in more than 1 hour, grand total of 32 (thirty two!) views/hits among them. :)

With the new design, mass uploading became a bit easier (even if not free from bugs), but I guess we can forget about the views.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Brett Moore on April 25, 2022, 06:20:30 PM
IMHO, until such time as the site owners and paying members agree that this was a monumental disaster, it will be very sad.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on April 26, 2022, 07:11:35 AM
Hello everybody, there are indications that only a part of the clicks on a certain picture is registrated and if so the number of indicated hits would be too low. This may lead to frustration by many and also give a wrong impression of the interest in this site.

Please IT-team address and check this important item as soon as possible to exclude a  technical error with the indicated hits.

And, once again, please increase communication with the community, that's also very important for all involved. Many thanks in advance for your efforts.

Cheers, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on May 02, 2022, 07:24:42 AM
I have noticed since the switch to the new site my photo views have dropped quite significantly, not sure if its because my photos are uninteresting since the move or less visitors to the site ?     
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony Martin on May 02, 2022, 08:30:18 AM
Hi Paul, I think the issue is that users a frustrated with the site, still a lot of issues. My big issue is that ads continue to override the pages I am viewing. I previously spent many hours scrolling through, now at best 10 minutes per day. I have now joined fleetmon not as good as the old site but ok. I know what the owner was trying to achieve however does not work for me. Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on May 02, 2022, 10:07:04 AM
Quote from: Tony Martin on May 02, 2022, 08:30:18 AM
Hi Paul, I think the issue is that users a frustrated with the site, still a lot of issues. My big issue is that ads continue to override the pages I am viewing. I previously spent many hours scrolling through, now at best 10 minutes per day. I have now joined fleetmon not as good as the old site but ok. I know what the owner was trying to achieve however does not work for me. Cheers
Hi Tony,

Yeah the ads are a problem clicking on a photo and a ad pops up.I know I spend less time here as it very hard to navigate around the site especially when using a phone to view the site.

Might have to look at another site maybe Fleetmon if things don't improve here which is sad as the old site was very good to use.
Cheers, Paul   
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 02, 2022, 01:52:18 PM
Hi Guys

Re: Ad problems

I use AdBlock and I get no ads at all. Its free but you can make a donation if you like.
Regards

Bob
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: carimar on May 03, 2022, 06:35:05 AM
Hi I've noticed that all my messages are not anymore in my Message box, also I can not find my Outbox? Are the Messages a Total loss or they will be restored some day in near future?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: carimar on May 03, 2022, 07:24:26 AM
Hi folks
I'm really not satisfied with the new design; I cannot edit my own photographs? See attachment. My message box is empty, no more outbox?, sometime its shown that I've never uploaded any photographs, it looks like my account with the same name appears twice on Shipspotting? and so on? I'm going to lose my patience with the new design. If you touch or improve something it must be better than the old system otherwise doesn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on May 05, 2022, 07:31:16 AM
After viewing and uploading on the new webite for a few months now, I have no complaints at all.
All is working fine and fast (I am using Google Chrome).
Must remark that most editing and viewing I use the button "open link in new tab", it saves time in reloading the page I came from.
Also checking IMO and / or ENI after posting is much easier now: just click on the photo in the upload-screen, click on the IMO or ENI and you can see any possible mistakes right away and correct it.

In fact I do not understand why other members still have issues and problems with the website.
Indeed I do notice that the number of views is low but is the new website now so bad to handle that members stay away?

However still a few wishes / questions
On the page "Most popular photos" add name of the vessel and number of views. The time-stamp that is shown now is not relevant for me.
The button "limit 12/24/36/page etc" is nowhere working, better to remove it?
In the upload screen I have at right a box called "Reminders".  No idea what to do with it. It has now the text for weeks "comments (2)" but why do I have to know that and how can I empty that message box?

Regards Pieter Inpijn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Owen Foley on May 05, 2022, 09:24:56 AM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on May 05, 2022, 07:31:16 AM
Indeed I do notice that the number of views is low but is the new website now so bad to handle that members stay away?
The navigation is clunky and the site doesn't look interesting.
I used to spend plenty of time looking around on the old site but after a just a couple of minutes on the new site, I've lost interest.
That's why the number of views are so low.
The new site design, just isn't interesting.
It's just not a step forward.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on May 05, 2022, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on May 05, 2022, 07:31:16 AM
Indeed I do notice that the number of views is low but is the new website now so bad to handle that members stay away?



I think the reason for low number of views is that the photos on the home page are much bigger then on the old website so no need to click on them
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: EnAvant30 on May 05, 2022, 04:03:56 PM
I think the new website is terrible.

At home I can't even log in, even worse, the login drop down box isn't even working, same as other buttons.
These are the measures that i did;
Checked various browsers if I could login (Microsoft edge, Google Chrome, etc.), nothing worked.
Emptied my cookies, nothing.
Did a registry clean, also nothing.

I mailed the shipspotting team for some help, also no reaction.

Now I'm on the workaccount of my ship, that luckily does work but at home, nothing.

Maybe some members here have other ideas wich maybe can work.

Cheers

Leon
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on May 05, 2022, 05:37:07 PM
Quote
I think the new website is terrible.
Why is that so if it works from your workaccount? Must check YOUR system maybe.
I'm with Pieter Inpijn: EVERYTHING IS WORKING PERFECT, have uploaded very many photos to this new design since the beginning and there weren't any issues at all.
Login/out, Uploading single or multiple, Messages are all there Inbox/Sent items, Categories and Search working fine and I'm sure it's not only lucky me.
Sorry to hear but the problem must be somewhere else, btw I'm on Windows 10 and Firefox.

@Owen Foley:
What seems to be your problem?
 
Quote
The navigation is clunky and the site doesn't look interesting.
The contents of the site is still the same, depending on uploaded images of your likes of course, navigating around might have changed a bit but so what. An extra click to get the ad out of the way? The site design is not interesting enough? OMG, big deal.
Relax and enjoy, have a drink!  ;D
Best wishes to all,
Manfred
 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: tvtech on May 06, 2022, 12:35:38 AM
Quote from: Owen Foley on May 05, 2022, 09:24:56 AM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on May 05, 2022, 07:31:16 AM
Indeed I do notice that the number of views is low but is the new website now so bad to handle that members stay away?
The navigation is clunky and the site doesn't look interesting.
I used to spend plenty of time looking around on the old site but after a just a couple of minutes on the new site, I've lost interest.
That's why the number of views are so low.
The new site design, just isn't interesting.
It's just not a step forward.

I used to spend easily an hour a day on the old website looking at all that had been posted for the day. Now I spend 10 mins with the new site and I've had enough for the day. I've just lost all interest because if the new site. Byeee.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Owen Foley on May 06, 2022, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Manfred on May 05, 2022, 05:37:07 PM
@Owen Foley:
What seems to be your problem?
 
Quote
The navigation is clunky and the site doesn't look interesting.
The contents of the site is still the same, depending on uploaded images of your likes of course, navigating around might have changed a bit but so what. An extra click to get the ad out of the way? The site design is not interesting enough? OMG, big deal.
Relax and enjoy, have a drink!  ;D
I'm not the only member to have suggested this, and the significant reduction in the number of views that photos are getting makes it clear that the new website just isn't working near as well as the old one did.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on May 06, 2022, 09:26:36 AM
Hello everybody,

although many problems have been solved with the new version it is a bit disappointing that hits and comments are now at a lower level than with the previous version. Let's hope that this will change for the better again gradually. After more than two months there is still the problem of logging in for some, which excludes these people from active participation here. To name but one person - nothing is heard any more from our fellow member Emmanuel L from Malta who was very active on the site hitherto. Many items have been solved by the IT-team (many thanks to them) but the new version has not - yet - reached the same level of acceptance as the replaced version. Some changes are affecting the community which is the core of this shipspotting site in my opinion and which meant a difference to other sites. I believe that for most of the members showing their photographs here it's not about "upload and forget". The feedback of likeminded persons makes such a site more attractive giving motivation and inspiration. So don't run away, stay with the site and make contributions like uploading pictures, comments and so on. Although I liked the old version more than this one we have to get along with what we have now. I'm convinced that we can have a vibrant community again if we have sufficient patience and perseverance.

Best wishes, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on May 10, 2022, 08:24:13 PM
Is there a reason why when logged in and you click on a photo to full screen it's now blurry? Their sharp before you open them.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Owen Foley on May 12, 2022, 02:05:41 AM
It seems that the Report to Moderator function for the forum doesn't work.
There are a bunch of recent spam posts that are still there despite reporting 24 hours ago
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on May 12, 2022, 04:07:25 AM
Maybe the mods are too busy removing critical comments re SS from facebook. Another member reported this on another thread here.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on May 12, 2022, 07:28:13 AM
Not sure how the top photos of the last 24 hours works but one of the photos has only 1 hit   ???
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on May 12, 2022, 08:32:16 PM
Simply it doesn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on May 17, 2022, 10:47:46 AM
Hello everybody,

since a few days all pictures are shown at nearly full screen size when selected. The former default size has been abandoned with the photo details incl. description now repositioned below.

In my opinion it's neither necessary nor desirable to view every picture at (nearly) full screen size or bigger ALL THE TIME. It also distracts from the ship's details including the photo description. So an imbalance is created between the photograph and all other details concerning this vessel. Far too much scrolling is needed to get an overall impression of a certain vessel from the picture down to the details, etc., other photos and eventually reaching the comments section.

Just my opinion, it would be interesting to hear what other members think of these most recent changes.

Best wishes to all, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on May 17, 2022, 01:45:46 PM
Hi,
the way the images are displayed now suits me best.
The position on the screen of the hopefully correct details provided and a possible available discription by the poster are definitely of secondary interest to me. When enlarging, it is the photo I'm interested in first. And the current size as default can be enjoyed by any dedicated photographer imho.
If scrolling down to read the details or a comment I can hardly say that this spoils my overall impression of a vessel in any way, imbalance? Sorry no, not for me.
I'm satisfied with this new layout, all works for me.
Best wishes, Manfred

Btw, I've noticed that some uploaded photos extended the 4000x4000 rule, anything new on that?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on May 17, 2022, 08:00:51 PM
What's the crack with the message disable ad script blocking software etc that's shown it's hand tonight. I get ads help with the costs involved in the site but it's a pain to switch it off/on for this one site only.

Perhaps i'm missing the logic here but surely the same settings for displaying photos etc that was on the old site could just be applied to this site to? Keep the continuity going with what were familiar with or is that just not possible?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on May 18, 2022, 02:44:13 PM
Another "improvement", I guess. I can't access the site any more from home, just from work.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on May 18, 2022, 03:18:49 PM
From one day to the next and without warning, this website only appears to be viewable after the adblock has been removed.
So only access while constantly being harassed with completely useless ads.
But I do not want to uninstall / install adblock each day for looking at a few new photo
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on May 18, 2022, 04:16:03 PM
Pieter i get your frustration, i don't think communication with the owners has ever been as bad as it is currently. That said you CAN just switch adblocker off for just this site if you wish to, it's a very simple process.

I
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 18, 2022, 05:05:02 PM
I have commented on a post on FB a while ago -

"You are seriously alienating long standing members of the ShipSpotting site by continually ignoring messages in the forum - please take the time to answer these messages as a priority over posting on FB!!"

There has been a reply - "Hello Patrick Hill, can you tell us what is happening? And how can we help you? Best regards - ShipSpotting Team"

My reply - "ShipSpotting - check the forum and answer the posts!!!"

Let's see what happens next...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on May 18, 2022, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on May 18, 2022, 03:18:49 PM
From one day to the next and without warning, this website only appears to be viewable after the adblock has been removed.
So only access while constantly being harassed with completely useless ads.
But I do not want to uninstall / install adblock each day for looking at a few new photo
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Jens Boldt on May 18, 2022, 10:36:10 PM
"I have now joined Fleetmon: also a website with beautiful and good photos from all over the world."

Pieter, you haven't joined Fleetmon now, you've joined Fleetmon already back in August 2019....

... which is a fine website for anyone who just wants to upload photos and not be bothered by reactions of other members of this website to your photos (Unless you play the "If you give a like to my photo, I'll give a like to your photo" game on a daily basis with each uploaded photo by other members. And even if you don't like it, make sure you're giving it a like).

Don't care too much about photo comments on Fleetmon, the only true currency is likes.

I got fed up with this game on Fleetmon about two years ago. You upload a good photo of ship X and get 15 likes and two days later another photographer uploads a brutally enhanced or drab photo of the same ship and the likes for this photo go through the roof. And this happened again and again. Thanks, but no thanks, I've got my pride, too. In the Fleetmon "community" (which in part I like to call the Kiel Canal/Cuxhaven Mafia) it's not about the photo, it's about who uploaded the photo...

But that's just my personal experience/opinion on/about Fleetmon...

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Clydee on May 19, 2022, 05:21:02 AM
Thank you Jens for your analysis of Fleetmon

Shipspotting members would not have to consider transferring to it if the people changing our site responded to questions and comments

Clyde
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 19, 2022, 06:22:24 AM
Looked into Fleetmon - their minimum photo size is too big for me (I like SS minimum so resize to the lowest possible) - suspect I won't be uploading to there.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on May 19, 2022, 06:24:08 AM
Quote from: csaba on May 18, 2022, 08:02:16 PM

Thanks for bringing Fleetmon to my/our attention as I was wandering where else to post photos.

If you really need/want to go, may I suggest Shiphotos, it is Canadian site, but from what I see is that you have to have permission to upload, and they seem to be rather strict on quality. Several of our members also upload there. Photos cannot be directly downloaded either.  Other alternatives such as Marine Traffic are even worse than Fleetmon, for instance if you upload an older photo, the ship be will shown under her new name (if a name change took place) which is rather confusing. There is no quality control there what so ever.

In short, in spite of all "felt" deficiencies that have now been introduced to Shipspotting, I still would consider it the best place to put your photographs.  If only this issue of social media could be solved properly......
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: volker1948 on May 19, 2022, 06:51:17 AM
What about full screen?Why is it not working properly?Full screen is blurrier than normal picture!!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on May 19, 2022, 12:53:14 PM
@ volker1948:
Full screen and zoom work fine!
The fewer pixel in the original uploaded photo (possibly together with a slight unsharpness) the blurrier it gets when enlarged.
Try it on a good image with the maximum pixel allowed (even though really sharp photos with less pixel work as well).
Best wishes, Manfred
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 20, 2022, 07:07:07 AM
Credit where it is due - can now close the warning of the Ad block and access the site without turning off the AdBlocker - you still get the warning on every page though.

Also like the much improved page layout when viewing photos. A real improvement.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 21, 2022, 01:17:06 PM
Probably been mentioned before but why is a new page opened whenever I look at something rather than refreshing the page to where I want to go? Just closed about a dozen pages so I can log off.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Dеnis on May 21, 2022, 06:58:00 PM
Is it alright that when you're not signed in you can still open/download original size photos after clicking on "Full screen" (or by opening the image in new tab) ?
Back with previous site design only members had access to original size photos & that was fair.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on May 27, 2022, 03:33:00 PM
Hello ShipSpotters,

Thank you all for your feedback, we went through all your suggestions and concerns so far, and readjusted the site's development roadmap accordingly.

As stated previously development on the site did not stop after the upgrade. We are actively developing the website and continuously integrating bug fixes, improvements, new features or even bringing back features from the old site.
Additionally we experiment with new ideas, which sometimes do not lead to good results. Hence your feedback is vital and much appreciated.

Regarding members experiencing issues when accessing the site and logging in, we took the liberty of directly contacting a couple mentioned on this topic and offered our assistance.
If any member have similar accessibility issues please use the contact form and let us know how can we best assist you.

Best wishes to all,
Hugo Vieira
The ShipsSpotting.com Development team
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hannes van Rijn on May 29, 2022, 12:22:01 PM
From one day to the next and without warning, this website only appears to be viewable after the adblock has been removed.
So only access while constantly being harassed with completely useless ads.
But I do not want to uninstall / install adblock each day for looking at a few new photo
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 29, 2022, 12:39:36 PM
Quote from: Dеnis on May 21, 2022, 06:58:00 PM
Is it alright that when you're not signed in you can still open/download original size photos after clicking on "Full screen" (or by opening the image in new tab) ?
Back with previous site design only members had access to original size photos & that was fair.

I agree Denis - it would be  better to be restricted to members again.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on May 30, 2022, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Tuomas Romu on April 21, 2022, 09:35:18 AM
I noticed that photographs uploaded since the beginning of March have "Shipspotting.com ... Image Copyright
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on May 30, 2022, 11:41:22 AM
Hello ShipSpotters,

The "Full Screen" situation will be rectified in the coming weeks.

A few remarks about the photo's copyright footer:

On another subject, I have to say that sadly Emmanuel L. from Malta has retired from his ShipSpotting hobby due to heath issues, he sends his thanks and greetings to everyone.

Regards,
Hugo Vieira
The ShipsSpotting.com Development team
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on May 31, 2022, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: Hugo Vieira on May 30, 2022, 11:41:22 AM
A few remarks about the photo's copyright footer...

Thank you for answering.

May I propose omitting "image copyright
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on May 31, 2022, 08:52:46 AM
I tried re-uploading one of my older photographs and unfortunately it seems that the website changes something (color space?) when it adds the footer even if there's no recompression; see example as attachment. After the server-side footer addition, the red saturation level seems to be significantly lower and the vessel looks more "washed out".
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on May 31, 2022, 03:38:16 PM
Hello Hugo,
Do you think something can be done re locations? The ports of Bar and Kotor are shown as if they are in "Serbia and Montenegro".

 This country does not exist any more, hasn't existed for more then 15 years.  Kotor and Bar are in Republic of Montenegro, NOT Serbia and Montenegro.

I mentioned this before couple of times but not reply. Makes the new and improved website look outdated and uninformed. And we have few members from Montenegro.

Many thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on May 31, 2022, 09:34:01 PM
I asked a question a while back as to why a sharp photo uploaded by myself becomes less sharp once it's posted to the site - i'm still awaiting an official answer
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on June 06, 2022, 06:10:32 PM
Tuomas Romu,
- Regarding the proposal of omitting "image copyright
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on June 06, 2022, 07:50:46 PM
Hugo thanks for getting back to me appreciate that.

The photo in question was a recent addition in the past few weeks, not the one from December 2021.

But having gone back to it tonight it is sharp as a tack so whatever tweak (if any) has been done to the photo page display seems to have done the trick as i see no softening now. :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on June 06, 2022, 08:25:32 PM
Thanks for the response Hugo. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: b47b56 on June 16, 2022, 12:32:19 PM
Hello.

I can't upload photos for vessels without IMO when Irrelevant butoon marked.
If anybody has same problem?

Regards, Evgeniy.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on June 16, 2022, 01:29:54 PM
Yes me, since 15.30 hours today.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on June 16, 2022, 02:14:37 PM
Hello everybody,
I have similar problems with uploading photos since yesterday. Uploading was unsuccessful with entering "irrelevant" at the IMO and location boxes. I only managed to upload the picture by entering a fake IMO (for a vessel which does not have a IMO number) and false location which I deleted as soon as the picture was uploaded successfully. Also all slashes in the description were replaced by a combination of several characters which had to be corrected by me. Annoying and time consuming.....

Cheers, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on June 16, 2022, 07:52:42 PM
Unfortunately I have the same problems with uploading the photos as the others.
I hope for an improvement as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tomislav Raymondi on June 17, 2022, 10:32:55 PM
Today while I was uploading photos to the website, for the first time it happened that the photos could not be uploaded because they were taken in Concepci
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on June 18, 2022, 05:54:36 AM
Quote from: Tomislav Raymondi on June 17, 2022, 10:32:55 PM
Today while I was uploading photos to the website, for the first time it happened that the photos could not be uploaded because they were taken in Concepci
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on June 18, 2022, 06:18:05 AM
Hi Pieter, in due time sounds like sometime.
Do you know when the bug of uploading the images might be fixed?
It just doesn't currently allow vessels to be uploaded without a location and IMO number.

I think I speak on behalf of the other top posters of inland vessel photos as well. 

Greets
Simon
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on June 19, 2022, 05:21:58 PM
Hi Simon, I have asked the question to IT just before the weekend, so hopefully it will get some attention as of tomorrow.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: CedricH on June 20, 2022, 07:13:35 AM
Yesterday I tried to upload a picture of an inland ship (so no IMO number available). Despite checking the box
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on June 20, 2022, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: CedricH on June 20, 2022, 07:13:35 AM
Yesterday I tried to upload a picture of an inland ship (so no IMO number available). Despite checking the box
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on June 20, 2022, 02:16:23 PM
@Pieter: this is not a solution, as member Seaweasel and others pointed out: it is very time consuming.
And what is your solution for the location? The list of locations is contains harbors for seagoing vessels. Most inland vessels are seen on rivers and canals.
And I also want to point out that in case I want to refer to a website like https://www.debinnenvaart.nl/schepen_home/ it is stored as:
https://www.debinnenvaart.nl/schepen_home/
So three edits to be made for each photo.
The problems were reported 16th June, no answer or reply in the forum yet, not answer or reply on PM
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on June 21, 2022, 10:14:46 AM
Pieter, I did not say it was a solution, it is a temporary way to circumvent the current problem, until such time a real solution has been found.
I would suggest that if you have problems with location of the IWT ships, may I point out that the site is called Shipspotting and not Bargespotting.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on June 21, 2022, 06:47:52 PM
Hello everybody,

@ Pieter Melissen : You really missed the point, Pieter. It is about equal standards for all kinds of ships. Inland ships are definitely interesting and fascinating vessels, they are (mostly) just smaller than the bigger seagoing vessels. It is a complete mystery why it should not be possible to include some additional locations for them. For example, I have uploaded far more than 1000 images from Maasbracht (NL) but can't search for this small but very busy inland harbour. It's simply not included in the listing of Dutch locations. I can however search for all images taken at the Dutch city of Middelburg/Province of Zeeland and I will find just 11 (!) images of which 8 pictures are showing seagoing vessels. Why does this double standard exist ?

Shipping does not end in ports like Rotterdam or Hamburg. The smaller ships are indispensable and this shipping segment should by no means be underestimated. Inland shipping is widely respected from all people who see the whole transport sector. It's not about competition between these kinds of shipping and ships, it's about cooperation between them. And the same equality should apply for the photographs of the many different kinds of ships on this site...

Regards, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: volker1948 on June 22, 2022, 07:21:05 AM
Hello Hans. You get applause from me!!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on June 22, 2022, 07:22:47 AM
Hello Hans,

Yes, I was a bit quick in my comment, perhaps also triggered by the fact that for my ship spotting activities in the Rotterdam Port area, I many times have to carefully consider how to position myself to avoid IWT ships being in my photos and obstructing the view of my topic. The presence of bunker barges is a nuisance too.

Perhaps the reason for the absence of a number of ports is that the site was originally set up by people who may have come from countries were IWT is not so important as it is over here, so they may have included ports that are accessible for sea-river ships. However, would you also want effort to be put in listing all the ports on the Yangtze river, the Volga-Don system or the Mississippi?

Cheers

Pieter
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on June 22, 2022, 09:36:14 AM
Hello Pieter,

I think we all know the problem with disturbing shipping when taking photographs, let's take it as a challenge and don't curse on them (except on motor yachts...) :-)

To answer your question concerning locations in countries like China, well, that should be quite simple. IF there are regular contributions from a certain location, e.g. in China, it would THEN make totally sense to include this location in the list of that country. Why not ? But without pictures from a specific location it would not make sense, especially in such a huge country like China. So it could easily be decided wether a port should be added to the list or not.

Let's hope that the IMO and location issues are being solved soon. There are more bugs waiting to be addressed by the IT-team. I'm willing to have patience, Rome wasn't built in a day....

Cheers, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on June 22, 2022, 06:56:35 PM
Hello everyone,

The following bugs are now fixed on the photo upload/edit forms:
- location unknown not allowed
- IMO irrelevant not allowed
- slash / characters being modified

We apologize for the inconvenient and thank you for your alerts.

Cheers

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on June 23, 2022, 12:15:15 PM
Hello Everyone,

After considering all of you feedback regarding Ads, an executive decision was taken to provide an Ads Free experience to registered users who have uploaded at least 50 photos in the past year.

This feature has been deployed to both the site and the forum.

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on June 23, 2022, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Hugo Vieira on June 23, 2022, 12:15:15 PM
Hello Everyone,

After considering all of you feedback regarding Ads, an executive decision was taken to provide an Ads Free experience to registered users who have uploaded at least 50 photos in the past year.

This feature has been deployed to both the site and the forum.

Cheers

Isn't working then, have uploaded more than 50 photos in the last year and when I turn the AdBlocker off I get ads :(

EDIT - needed to log out and back in - now working. Thanks
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on June 23, 2022, 05:01:54 PM
It works fine, thank you Hugo!  ;D
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony Martin on June 23, 2022, 10:16:07 PM
For some reason I cannot log in on iphone 13, tells me I am banned from forum. Works fine on PC windows 11,  google chrome. Any clues?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: CedricH on June 25, 2022, 11:05:11 AM
Another issue for me today is sending messages. When I move a picture between categories I always inform the uploader. The page keeps on loading but the message did go through. I
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on June 28, 2022, 03:12:45 PM
Looks like adverts are back since the AIS has been added, even logging off and back on hasn't resolved rhe issue.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on June 28, 2022, 09:39:57 PM
It seems the "Ads free experience" was very brief.  Is it a feature the site will be restoring to those registered users who qualify...?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on June 29, 2022, 11:16:11 AM
When logged on, I get no ads or the banner at the bottom and I still have AdBlock on, I have more than 50 photos uploaded this year.

Got rid of the social media pop up as well just by "liking" the site, never looked at it though.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: andrecas on June 29, 2022, 02:10:30 PM
Just an observation.....whether you scroll or click of the mouse, the site is saturated with ads.........
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Bob Scott on June 30, 2022, 09:55:23 PM
I occasionally look at the Airnav 'plane plotter site (owner of this site) for aircraft flying over my home, which happens to be near the River Thames. In the past few days, some ships have begun appearing on it as well as aircraft.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on July 01, 2022, 02:34:35 PM
Hello Everyone,

The advertisements on the site are going through an overhaul this week, including switching to another ad network.
As a consequence some unforeseen behavior was introduced into the website, including disrupting the "ad free experience".
Please bare with us as we are working in conjunction with our new partners to resolve these issues.

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Dеnis on July 11, 2022, 01:16:05 PM
I do NOT find it convenient when on photo page under the photo the (Full Screen, Edit Info, Add/Remove to/from Favourites) is hidden in "More" button.

Not only more things to click but also how am I supposed to quickly see that this photo is already in my Favourites?

Please, revert it back to how it was.




I was posting this several times back then, I'm posting this again:
Make https://www.shipspotting.com/photo/favorites be able to also see as a GALLERY by adding the "Detailed Listing" option how it's in https://www.shipspotting.com/photo/uploaded
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 11, 2022, 05:47:59 PM
Hi Denis,  yes it is one click more, but it is not that bad. I first could not find EDIT INFO, but now that I know were it is, I have no problems with its location.
As far as favorites is concerned, I checked mine and found two shots that had ended up there long time and I have no idea how they came there. My "favorites" directory sits on my harddisk, if I see a shot that I like for whatever reason, I download it. (so in case I get banned I still have access to the shot). 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on July 11, 2022, 07:30:20 PM
Strange: under FULL SCREEN I can not save the photos any longer as JPG, only as full-web-page.
Is it only me or have other members noticed this as well?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Johnny Holmen on July 11, 2022, 07:49:26 PM
I've experienced the same this evening. A reply on this issue, is required from the support team.
Title: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tomislav Raymondi on July 11, 2022, 09:22:30 PM
Today I had a very bad experience when opening the site, I logged in and a series of commercial advertisements appeared without counting the banner inviting to see the site on face book, tweeter and so on, I would suggest you see the option to eliminate this annoying wave of commercials that hinder the normal view of the photos.

Regards

Tomi.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony des Landes on July 12, 2022, 02:59:32 AM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on July 11, 2022, 07:30:20 PM
Strange: under FULL SCREEN I can not save the photos any longer as JPG, only as full-web-page.
Is it only me or have other members noticed this as well?
I noticed that same thing. If we can't share photos in full resolution then this all become pointless.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Anthony Legg on July 12, 2022, 06:27:58 AM
Today.....went to download a photo and can only get a web site photo....where has the download to my photo file that has worked well up to now, gone!!
This site is getting worse to use, I don't know how some members can be so supportive of all this bs, this has gone on for many many months, so when can we expect a fully operational service?
As I mentioned on another thread I would be happy to pay a monthly/annual fee for unrestricted ad free and stable access.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Steve Tompkins on July 12, 2022, 06:32:10 AM
I've been very patient with the changes, learning as I go. The latest change, making the pictures unavailable for download is very frustrating. Unless this changes, I'm done with this site. I understand the right of the photographer, copyright protection and all that, but if we only save the pics for our own collection, and the photographer doesn't mind, where's the harm?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony Martin on July 12, 2022, 06:45:23 AM
Like previous comments I have tried to be patient with this new site. It has become a site plagued with ads, and has lost many of the features that
made it appealing to me and it seems many others. I am still posting, however no longer "surf" photographs. ( more ads than photos and the remove ad feature does not work ). I stay, fingers crossed that things will improve, patience is running out. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Henry Casciaro on July 12, 2022, 11:24:17 AM
I fully agree with Steve Tompkins I have just realised you can no longer save or download any photos. Is this yet another feature of the new website design ? If so it really means the end of this valuable site for me as I normally save images for my own private use and reference, always respecting photo copyrights etc. You can still take screenshots of any photo and then crop them yourself so if this has been done to protect photographers rights then it seems a bit pointless. Could an admin please clarify this new restriction please !
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 11:32:47 AM
Just wondering what is going on here. I have just opened the site and downloaded whatever I wanted and got everything jpeg format.

Please note that when you open the thumbnail, the real image (of which the resolution is given in the description) appears. When you click on save this image, you are actually saving the full resolution image. The full size option is just there to give you the possibility to see the image in larger size, but the resolution of the shot is the same what you get when opening the thumbnail. This is contrary to the previous version of the site, where the resolution of the shot downloaded  after opening the thumbnail ,was actually much smaller than when opened full screen. Another advantage of the current site is that it is no longer required to reduce the size to 4000. Any resolution can now be uploaded without having to manipulate your shot before uploading.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on July 12, 2022, 12:14:21 PM
This stopping of downloading someone's photo for your (OWN PLEASURE) goes against everything this site was supposed to be about, which was a photo SHARING site. I post on her to allow others to share my photos, it's my decision so i'm comfortable with all that copyright stuff as it's not going to make me a millionaire, so no more photos from me until it's re-instated.

If everyone else stops to the site stops dead...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: Richard Paton on July 12, 2022, 12:14:21 PM
This stopping of downloading someone's photo for your (OWN PLEASURE) goes against everything this site was supposed to be about, which was a photo SHARING site. I post on her to allow others to share my photos, it's my decision so i'm comfortable with all that copyright stuff as it's not going to make me a millionaire, so no more photos from me until it's re-instated.

If everyone else stops to the site stops dead...

Please read my post just above yours.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on July 12, 2022, 12:22:19 PM
I have :) You can also still save a photo in JPEG via the thumbnail but the compression makes the photo fuzzy so it's not worth doing, bit like building half a roof on a building and then giving up.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on July 12, 2022, 12:22:41 PM
@Pieter Melissen: can you please explain which buttons you use?
My buttons are: MORE, Full Screen, righthand mouseclick, SAVE AS.
Choices: Webpage Single File, Webpage HTML Only, Webpage Complete.
JPG is missing, it is no longer there? Has disappeared after 18 years?
I do not understand your remark?
Regards, Pieter
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 12:31:36 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on July 12, 2022, 12:22:41 PM
@Pieter Melissen: can you please explain which buttons you use?
My buttons are: MORE, Full Screen, righthand mouseclick, SAVE AS.
Choices: Webpage Single File, Webpage HTML Only, Webpage Complete.
JPG is missing, it is no longer there? Has disappeared after 18 years?
I do not understand your remark?
Regards, Pieter

I open the thumbnail, right click on the larger image (of which the resolution is stated in the description) to save this image, then you wait for a couple of seconds until your computer makes a suggestion for the path to save it and then you simply save. You will have the image in the same size as posted by the original photographer and as a jpeg.
If I go to the "more" option and click full screen, I can do the same: Rightclick, wait for path and save. There is nothing about Webpage or PNG etc...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Johnny Holmen on July 12, 2022, 12:40:30 PM
I just did a test with your description at hand, and it do not function that way. Since you may be a moderator, you may have an other menu than the others. I can save the thumbnail only in jpg/jpeg format. So please check the set-up for any hidden changes. And the thumbnail saves as a smaller image than the posted one. With all the comments from the community, an explanation from site admin. is REQUIRED.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on July 12, 2022, 12:46:52 PM
Agree with Johnny, that simply isn't available to the ordinary member now. Who's idea was it to stop this? Or is it related to this "ad update" that was mentioned the other day.....
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on July 12, 2022, 12:48:27 PM
I don't use the facility but can confirm when selecting Save As in Chrome and Edge you only get web page options.

EDIT - but if you select your own photos it appears you can save as .jpg
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: Johnny Holmen on July 12, 2022, 12:40:30 PM
I just did a test with your description at hand, and it do not function that way. Since you may be a moderator, you may have an other menu than the others. I can save the thumbnail only in jpg/jpeg format. So please check the set-up for any hidden changes. And the thumbnail saves as a smaller image than the posted one. With all the comments from the community, an explanation from site admin. is REQUIRED.

I do not use a site menu. Everybody can open the photo thumbnail I suppose, and then right clicking on the then appearing photographing is simply a windows option, it is the way that I save shots from everywhere. Some sites have a different format in presenting their shots such .WEB or .PNG. If that is the case I can still them, open them in my photoeditor (ACDSee) work on them if necessary and then say the results as a jpeg.

The fact that I am a moderator has nothing to do with this.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Johnny Holmen on July 12, 2022, 01:05:41 PM
Pieter, I give up. You do not take us seriously when reporting an issue. You just continue with your statements without offering any further examination into what we are reporting. I've tried both Edge and Chrome browsers and the result is identical.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on July 12, 2022, 01:31:00 PM
Yes Pieter, as Johnny has alluded to right clicking a photo to save as .jpg in full resolution is now no longer an option. I'm not sure how you can manage it and no one else can, but we members are flagging this up as a major issue. Can you pass or show these messages to the IT folk please. Thanks.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Richard Paton on July 12, 2022, 01:31:00 PM
Yes Pieter, as Johnny has alluded to right clicking a photo to save as .jpg in full resolution is now no longer an option. I'm not sure how you can manage it and no one else can, but we members are flagging this up as a major issue. Can you pass or show these messages to the IT folk please. Thanks.

OK, one more time then,

1. It  is NOT necessary to go to full screen and then save the image. You will get the full resolution image by saving the shot that with the description etc.
2. I have no special privileges that would allow me to do things that others cannot do
3. I am using Windows 11 and Firefox
4. I have informed Hugo about this discussion. We have contact on an almost daily basis so I hope this can be solved.


 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on July 12, 2022, 02:05:11 PM
Pieter,

Can you confirm you are trying with either your own photos or other members photos as there does appear to be a difference.

Also, please try when not logged in - you may see the effect that has been reported (I've just tried in Edge and cannot save any photos, other members or my own uploads)

Best regards

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 02:12:54 PM
Patrick, I used other people's shots, such as the color shot of the Raeburn posted by Malcolm Cranfield some days ago, which is larger than the original site limitations. I could download it directly after clicking on the thumbnail and also after opening the full screen option, both options resulted in a similar sized shot (4904x3102)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on July 12, 2022, 02:34:34 PM
thanks for the confirmation Pieter - I'm not bothered about the size but the actual saving doesn't work in the first instance. If I right click on either thumbnail or the full size image I only get the option to "save as" which only allows saving the page - however, if I do the same with any of my own uploaded photos I have the option to "Save image as" which allows .jpg etc (This is in Chrome and Edge)

Hope this helps toward solving this issue for the other members.

Patrick
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on July 12, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
@pieter melissen
I just tried it:
when not logged in: right click, download and save only with thumbnails, own or other photos, full screen and additional photo boost not possible
when logged in: right click, download and save only with own photos but from all sizes possible as usual, additional photo boost works.  :o
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on July 12, 2022, 03:11:49 PM
Doesn't work for me either; I only get "Save page as" on other members' photos.

Cheers

Vlad
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on July 12, 2022, 03:33:55 PM
Hello Everyone,

As some of you reported, there was in fact a bug on the Photo page that prevented users from downloading photos other than their own.
It has now been fixed.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

Cheers

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on July 12, 2022, 06:05:18 PM
Thank you Hugo.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Steve Tompkins on July 12, 2022, 06:45:24 PM
saving an image appears to magically be working again. Someone must have changed something!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 12, 2022, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: Steve Tompkins on July 12, 2022, 06:45:24 PM
saving an image appears to magically be working again. Someone must have changed something!

It was not magic. it was a little glitch that was rectified. However, I have been told that that specific glitch did not affect admins, hence I had not experienced any problems. Apparently there are several other things in the site software that have a slightly different functionality with regards to admins.  So I apologize for being a bit rough in my approach regarding this problem (non-existent for me), and in case another problem arises I'll ask Hugo straight away. 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Anthony Legg on July 13, 2022, 01:00:27 AM
Thank you for sorting this problem out. It is good to know that some members have different access to the majority which gives them a "superior" attitude to confronting problems that cause so much consternation, but thank you for the correction and rectification.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on July 15, 2022, 04:39:14 AM
I like those forward and back arrows at the "latest added photos". But I think it would be better if each click moves photos in a group of 4 rather then one by one. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Dеnis on July 16, 2022, 05:09:04 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on July 11, 2022, 05:47:59 PM
Hi Denis,  yes it is one click more, but it is not that bad. I first could not find EDIT INFO, but now that I know were it is, I have no problems with its location.
As far as favorites is concerned, I checked mine and found two shots that had ended up there long time and I have no idea how they came there. My "favorites" directory sits on my harddisk, if I see a shot that I like for whatever reason, I download it. (so in case I get banned I still have access to the shot).

Pieter, I WAS donwloading every liking photo a decade ago before my HD crashed & I lost everything. Soon I thought I'll just bookmark liked photos here & download eventually. Now the problem is that there are like 2000+ liked photos in my bookmarks & there's no way to quickly download them except for manually going through each which isn't worth the effort.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 17, 2022, 05:14:27 PM
Quote from: Dеnis on July 16, 2022, 05:09:04 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on July 11, 2022, 05:47:59 PM
Hi Denis,  yes it is one click more, but it is not that bad. I first could not find EDIT INFO, but now that I know were it is, I have no problems with its location.
As far as favorites is concerned, I checked mine and found two shots that had ended up there long time and I have no idea how they came there. My "favorites" directory sits on my harddisk, if I see a shot that I like for whatever reason, I download it. (so in case I get banned I still have access to the shot).

Pieter, I WAS donwloading every liking photo a decade ago before my HD crashed & I lost everything. Soon I thought I'll just bookmark liked photos here & download eventually. Now the problem is that there are like 2000+ liked photos in my bookmarks & there's no way to quickly download them except for manually going through each which isn't worth the effort.

I know this will sound like me being an ass, but really if you save things on an HD, make sure you have a backup made on a regular basis. This of course is also valid for your own photographs.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: victor radio74 on July 27, 2022, 01:51:42 PM
Hi I have made a comment about  the Paz Segundo fhishing boat sinking and although the comment was attached to the photo page it doesn
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Manfred on July 27, 2022, 02:54:43 PM
Adding the photo title to the 'Latest Photo Comments' list is very convenient, thank you!   ;D
Brgds, Manfred
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on July 28, 2022, 11:10:10 AM
I'm still treating the new site as a "work in progress", and there are things still being changed/improved.

Next on the list to (possibly) take care of: number of "Likes" that becomes the number of "Comments" as soon as one comment is added, and the number of "Likes" exceeds 3. So you have, for instance, photos that show "90 comments"...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 28, 2022, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: lappino on July 28, 2022, 11:10:10 AM
I'm still treating the new site as a "work in progress", and there are things still being changed/improved.

Next on the list to (possibly) take care of: number of "Likes" that becomes the number of "Comments" as soon as one comment is added, and the number of "Likes" exceeds 3. So you have, for instance, photos that show "90 comments"...

Thanks Vlad for the thumbs up, your point has been duly noted. Personally I would like to get rid of the "likes" thing altogether (just to emphasize that we are NOT social media) but I am not sure whether this is a popular position. (may not be "liked")
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Dеnis on July 30, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
A couple of questions for site members:

Latest photo comments on home page - what if there would be a small (like within 50x50 pixels frame) photo thumbnail near each ship name & related recent comments there? Or you prefer clicking on text/comment wondering which photo it would lead to?

Saving a photo - currently the default photo title is photo's ID number on site. What if the default photo title would have been like "IMO1234567 SHIP NAME ID1234567" ? In this way if you saved many photos of a certain ship, just sorting by file name would group them all by IMO regardless if ship had various names & ID number would make sure you didn't save duplicates or that you don't have to manually add new number each time you save new photo of that ship. Or how would you suggest the default photo titling when saving from site?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on July 30, 2022, 06:16:06 PM
Hi Denis

My photos of the ships that I am interested in, are stored by first trading name of a ship plus IMO number (each ship has a separate directory) up to 1999 and starting from 1947. (I rarely shoot ships that have no IMO number),  Later photos I have currently saved by name and yob, but eventually they will go by IMO number as well. Most tankers I have already organised by first name and IMO number. I usually download only one shot of a ship under a certain IMO number per name. 

So if a save a shot from here of a ship built before 2000 (or a later built tanker)  it will go in the directory with the corresponding name and IMO number and only when the name on the photo would give some difficulties to decipher I rename the saved photo.  In other words I have none of the problems you are describing.  The default photo number is good enough for me, it also gives you some idea how long ago the photo was posted.

If it is technically possible adding a small photo to the comment could save some time, by not having to read comments to ships that do not bother me at all. (yachts, naval stuff etc)



Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on August 01, 2022, 07:26:54 AM
Hello everybody,
I would like to add a remark about the bug reported by Vlad (lappino) about counting of "Comments"  "Likes" and also of "Views". The indications of the former two are often coupled. For example, when I commented on the latest pic of inland tanker HUYGENS the indication of Comments changed from 2 to 9 (!) and likewise the indication of Likes changed also from 2 to 9. This has increased to 20 (!) being indicated for each on the thumbnail pic. When the picture is selected it then shows 5 comments (which is the true number) and five likes. This is really not acceptable and the issue should be addressed by the IT-team soon.

Correct counting of the clicks is essentiel to indicate the true interest in a shown picture. When selecting a photo the additional click is mostly counted after a short time, but in some cases the indication is delayed and in some cases it is not counted at all. I have checked this with many older pictures (not mine) and I have seen that around 30 % of the selected pictures had NOT counted the additional view after some days or later.

This is strange considering that the new version is running for five months now. IT-team, please fix this distorting issue as soon as possible to see the true number of views, comments and likes to show the interest in a certain photography correctly. It does matter a lot for the community of this site in my opinion because these entries are the tools for interactions for members and guests.

Many thanks in advance to Hugo Vieira and his team for their efforts to make this website better.

Regards, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: smithy166 on August 01, 2022, 11:44:56 AM
This website seems to be having major issues with spam replies, comments and posts as of late. Is this something IT intend to address?

Also, I got another 504 trying to post this, but the post succeeded, so something with your success message is mis-configured.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on August 03, 2022, 07:25:42 AM
Quote from: smithy166 on August 01, 2022, 11:44:56 AM
This website seems to be having major issues with spam replies, comments and posts as of late. Is this something IT intend to address?

Also, I got another 504 trying to post this, but the post succeeded, so something with your success message is mis-configured.

Smithy, I sent you  a PM yesterday, and the the 504 issue is being looked by IT. Rome was not built in one day. 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Dеnis on August 08, 2022, 10:30:22 PM
Q: What's the difference on shipspotting.com between having your adblocker On & Off?
A: 70 pixels!

I mean, I thought switching the adblocker off would remove that annoying stripe which hides the bottom part of the site, but now there's STILL (now black) "annoying stripe which hides the bottom part of the site" (although it's just 70 pixels narrower).
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on August 09, 2022, 05:18:04 AM
Quote from: pieter melissen on August 03, 2022, 07:25:42 AM
Quote from: smithy166 on August 01, 2022, 11:44:56 AM
This website seems to be having major issues with spam replies, comments and posts as of late. Is this something IT intend to address?

Also, I got another 504 trying to post this, but the post succeeded, so something with your success message is mis-configured.

Smithy, I sent you  a PM yesterday, and the the 504 issue is being looked by IT. Rome was not built in one day.

Rome wasn't unnecessarily torn down  :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on August 09, 2022, 08:10:01 AM
Quote from: csaba on August 09, 2022, 05:18:04 AM
Quote from: pieter melissen on August 03, 2022, 07:25:42 AM
Quote from: smithy166 on August 01, 2022, 11:44:56 AM
This website seems to be having major issues with spam replies, comments and posts as of late. Is this something IT intend to address?

Also, I got another 504 trying to post this, but the post succeeded, so something with your success message is mis-configured.

Smithy, I sent you  a PM yesterday, and the the 504 issue is being looked by IT. Rome was not built in one day.

Rome wasn't unnecessarily torn down  :)

Thanks for the thumbs up...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on August 13, 2022, 04:23:33 AM
I like the new automatic date when uploading photo, it is a nice feature. But it only works for individual uploads, not if you upload more pictures at the same time.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on August 17, 2022, 07:30:28 AM
When you look at your photos you can only search newest or most popular you cant start with oldest , I find this very inconvenient. 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on August 17, 2022, 02:07:33 PM
Probably been mentioned before.
I get " upload failed status code 522". Tried again and upload successful but find that image had uploaded twice!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on August 17, 2022, 02:17:18 PM
Like that "date of image" is auto filled
also like the "Category" is auto filled from the IMO number but would suggest that the IMO box comes before the Category box on the upload page to make this function work better.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on August 18, 2022, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: csaba on August 13, 2022, 04:23:33 AM
I like the new automatic date when uploading photo, it is a nice feature. But it only works for individual uploads, not if you upload more pictures at the same time.

Csaba: I got this reply from Hugo

"Regarding the date issue, it does not populate the date automatically for multiple photos only for a single photo.

However the dates for all selected photos are presented on a menu within the date selector for the field
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on August 18, 2022, 11:43:30 AM
Quote from: Paul Finnigan on August 17, 2022, 07:30:28 AM
When you look at your photos you can only search newest or most popular you cant start with oldest , I find this very inconvenient.

Word has come that this option will be included.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on August 18, 2022, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: Robert J Smith on August 17, 2022, 02:17:18 PM
Like that "date of image" is auto filled
also like the "Category" is auto filled from the IMO number but would suggest that the IMO box comes before the Category box on the upload page to make this function work better.

Hi Robert, the Category is not really auto filled, in the sense that when the IMO number is filled in the category becomes visible. What happens is that you get to see the categories in which there are already photographs of the ship with this IMO number. (f.i. the main ship type category, ships under repair. etc)  I agree that the sequence of number and category could better be changed.

Cheers

Pieter
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on August 18, 2022, 06:07:36 PM
Further to this, the upload form will be amended, whereby the IMO number will trade place with the ENI Number. It just will require you read the upload form horizontally.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Robert J Smith on August 20, 2022, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: pieter melissen on August 18, 2022, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: Robert J Smith on August 17, 2022, 02:17:18 PM
Like that "date of image" is auto filled
also like the "Category" is auto filled from the IMO number but would suggest that the IMO box comes before the Category box on the upload page to make this function work better.

Hi Robert, the Category is not really auto filled, in the sense that when the IMO number is filled in the category becomes visible. What happens is that you get to see the categories in which there are already photographs of the ship with this IMO number. (f.i. the main ship type category, ships under repair. etc)  I agree that the sequence of number and category could better be changed.


Cheers

Pieter

I agree Pieter, not auto filled but still a nice function
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on August 31, 2022, 10:50:56 AM
Hello dear ship lovers, it is extremely noticeable that it is not counted when the images are clicked. I have opened some pictures with several work colleagues and still a few days later there are still zero views under the picture. One could think that the category inland waterways is no longer of interest to anyone. Most of the pictures have zero views. In my opinion, this must be changed urgently, especially since it also frustrates the photographer himself. 

Greets Simon


Quote from: seaweasel on August 01, 2022, 07:26:54 AM
Hello everybody,
I would like to add a remark about the bug reported by Vlad (lappino) about counting of "Comments"  "Likes" and also of "Views". The indications of the former two are often coupled. For example, when I commented on the latest pic of inland tanker HUYGENS the indication of Comments changed from 2 to 9 (!) and likewise the indication of Likes changed also from 2 to 9. This has increased to 20 (!) being indicated for each on the thumbnail pic. When the picture is selected it then shows 5 comments (which is the true number) and five likes. This is really not acceptable and the issue should be addressed by the IT-team soon.

Correct counting of the clicks is essentiel to indicate the true interest in a shown picture. When selecting a photo the additional click is mostly counted after a short time, but in some cases the indication is delayed and in some cases it is not counted at all. I have checked this with many older pictures (not mine) and I have seen that around 30 % of the selected pictures had NOT counted the additional view after some days or later.

This is strange considering that the new version is running for five months now. IT-team, please fix this distorting issue as soon as possible to see the true number of views, comments and likes to show the interest in a certain photography correctly. It does matter a lot for the community of this site in my opinion because these entries are the tools for interactions for members and guests.

Many thanks in advance to Hugo Vieira and his team for their efforts to make this website better.

Regards, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on August 31, 2022, 07:02:09 PM
Hello Simon, hello everybody,

let's hope that you are right and the dwindling click numbers have - mainly - a technical reason. That could be possible, but why wouldn't the IT-people finally fix this problem ? It shouldn't be too difficult because the old version had no problems of this kind. I'm afraid, however, that the low click numbers rather reflect a loss of patience of many members/guests because this new version is running for half a year now and it seems not possible to fix some basic problems.

Best wishes, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on September 01, 2022, 05:16:45 PM
Hello dear members,

Addressing the issues on the photo view counter. I'll need to explain a few things so please bare with me.

On 2022-07-29 a refactor of the counter was deployed, which changed how the views are counted.
Previous to this date the views were being counted on the server side as was on the old site. This means that all photo page requests resulted in a new view added to the counter. No matter if the page was eventually served to the user, if the user closed the page, clicked on a link or even clicked on the back button immediately (lets say less than 1s) after requesting the page. Also all requests from bots (search engine indexing bots, ...) and generated link previews in various applications (Whatsapp, Messenger, ... just to name a few) resulted in a new view being counted.

As you probably can imagine this is not representative of the "User" views.
Just so there is a clearer picture here are the total daily numbers around the day of the deployment:
Day   ShipSpotting Photo Views   Google Analytics Photo Views
2022-08-02
10,728
19,785
2022-08-01
10,118
19,273
2022-07-31
9,301
17,276
2022-07-30
9,133
15,911
2022-07-29
87,098
16,616
2022-07-28
118,043
19,362
2022-07-27
121,972
17,492
2022-07-26
106,090
16,281

From 2022-07-30 forward photo all views are counted on the client side, this means that the user requests the photo page to the server and only when the page finishes loading on the user's browser there is a request back to the serve to count a new view for that photo.

This represents a more accurate view count, but it is not without it's disadvantages.
There are circumstances where this request to count a new view can fail even if the user is in fact viewing it.
Some of them could be:
- server being too busy to process the request
- user having adblock enabled (this view count request is flagged as an advertisement pixeltag by some adblockers)
- an instable/very slow internet connection (the request can timeout)

Further to this, and is common to both methods of counting views as it comes from the old site, the counted views are buffered for some time on the database for each combination of photo id and user IP address. Only then they are processed and counted for the corresponding photo.
I believe this was implemented to prevent artificially increasing the view count by repeatedly refreshing the photo page.

Here, in the buffer, is where I believe the issues are occurring, as nowadays the IP address is not a true indication of a unique visitor.
Long gone are the days when each user had it's own unique IP.
This buffer is up for refactoring soon, with the expectation that it will result in a more accurate view count.

Hope this post creates a clearer picture of the process and answers at least some of your questions.

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Paul Finnigan on September 02, 2022, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Hugo Vieira on September 01, 2022, 05:16:45 PM
Hello dear members,

Addressing the issues on the photo view counter. I'll need to explain a few things so please bare with me.

On 2022-07-29 a refactor of the counter was deployed, which changed how the views are counted.
Previous to this date the views were being counted on the server side as was on the old site. This means that all photo page requests resulted in a new view added to the counter. No matter if the page was eventually served to the user, if the user closed the page, clicked on a link or even clicked on the back button immediately (lets say less than 1s) after requesting the page. Also all requests from bots (search engine indexing bots, ...) and generated link previews in various applications (Whatsapp, Messenger, ... just to name a few) resulted in a new view being counted.

As you probably can imagine this is not representative of the "User" views.
Just so there is a clearer picture here are the total daily numbers around the day of the deployment:
Day   ShipSpotting Photo Views   Google Analytics Photo Views
2022-08-02
10,728
19,785
2022-08-01
10,118
19,273
2022-07-31
9,301
17,276
2022-07-30
9,133
15,911
2022-07-29
87,098
16,616
2022-07-28
118,043
19,362
2022-07-27
121,972
17,492
2022-07-26
106,090
16,281

From 2022-07-30 forward photo all views are counted on the client side, this means that the user requests the photo page to the server and only when the page finishes loading on the user's browser there is a request back to the serve to count a new view for that photo.

This represents a more accurate view count, but it is not without it's disadvantages.
There are circumstances where this request to count a new view can fail even if the user is in fact viewing it.
Some of them could be:
- server being too busy to process the request
- user having adblock enabled (this view count request is flagged as an advertisement pixeltag by some adblockers)
- an instable/very slow internet connection (the request can timeout)

Further to this, and is common to both methods of counting views as it comes from the old site, the counted views are buffered for some time on the database for each combination of photo id and user IP address. Only then they are processed and counted for the corresponding photo.
I believe this was implemented to prevent artificially increasing the view count by repeatedly refreshing the photo page.

Here, in the buffer, is where I believe the issues are occurring, as nowadays the IP address is not a true indication of a unique visitor.
Long gone are the days when each user had it's own unique IP.
This buffer is up for refactoring soon, with the expectation that it will result in a more accurate view count.

Hope this post creates a clearer picture of the process and answers at least some of your questions.

Cheers
Thanks Hugo I really appreciate your detailed explanation but could you or someone else put it in layman terms for someone computer illiterate like me I really still cant understand how it works sorry.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on September 04, 2022, 03:01:09 PM
Please add a multiplier, say 10x, so that we can have some semblance of "normalcy".

Point in question: Sunday afternoon, in about 4 hours time, 40 photos uploaded (different users), with the grand total of 26 (twenty six) views among them. Seems like "throwing into the void", indeed. :)

Cheers

Vlad
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: simonwp on September 05, 2022, 10:30:56 AM
I looked at every photograph loaded yesterday, but wouldn't have registered any hit, as the thumbnails are now good enough for a quick look. I only open up any that are of particular interest, so only register a hit on those. Yesterday none took my eye enough to open up, but it didn't mean I didn't appreciate them.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on September 05, 2022, 04:00:42 PM
Hello Hugo, hello everybody,

many thanks for your detailed explanations, Hugo, this is much appreciated. Although not easy to understand for laymen your post gives a number of hints how things are related and how complicated this issue apparently is. As the click counting was working well with the old version it's one of the problems created by the current version.

Please inform the users of this site when the buffer has been refactored so we can take this change into account.

Further to that I agree with simonwp and others who suggested that the thumbnails are too large and it's thus not necessary to further enlarge a picture by opening it up. This could affect the click numbers considerably so I would propose to reduce the size of the thumbnails as they were with the previous version. A random multiplier of clicks would be too inaccurate and therefore not very helpful to solve the real problem in my opinion.

Regards, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on September 05, 2022, 06:26:41 PM
There is a slight difference between the words of Simonwp and the way Seaweasel (Hans) has interpreted these. Simon mentions that the thumbnails are good enough which is then translated by Hans as that they are too large. I think that is a substantial difference and I tend to agree with Simon and I see no reason why these should be reduced in size, just to generate clicks. The preoccupation with the number of clicks is something that belonged to the old site, where for instance the rule was introduced that it was not allowed to comment on your pictures as that was considered a way to increase the clicks. Personally I don't care about the numbers, the only thing I check on a regular basis is whether somebody made a comment that deemed an answer. I think we should get rid of the competition element here and the new site apparently just does that, which perhaps has resulted in disappointing number of clicks for some, but the popularity race seems to be over.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on September 06, 2022, 03:47:57 AM
My work colleagues and I did the ultimate test again yesterday and opened my pictures from different IP addresses. Today, there would normally have to be at least 5 views per image. In reality, however, there are still zero views. That's really frustrating.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on September 06, 2022, 08:39:05 AM
Under each photo is the button MORE.
Clicking gives SHOW REFERRER LOG
Next screen is REFERRER LOG but the wheel keeps turning, no result.
I suppose this function was intended to show which members had used the full view option?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: seaweasel on September 06, 2022, 09:11:07 AM
Hello Pieter, hello everybody,

I am convinced that it never was about competition or a popularity race on this site, at least not for the vast majority of users. The number of clicks should ONLY be seen as a measure for the interest in a certain photo and serve as an additional motivation for the photographer. We are all human beings after all, aren't we ? I can speak only for myself - I have no interest in having more clicks than another person who is posting pics of inland vessels. Instead I really appreciate it when such pics of other members are of great interest to many persons. Popularity race ? Competition ? Are you serious, Pieter ? It's not about competition here but about the pleasure of presenting your own pictures to likeminded people and of course most of us appreciate a positive feedback by others rather than throwing the photographs into the "void"....

I never intended to "compete" or tried to be "popular" in the sector of inland vessels. I was, however, satisfied with the feedback for my pics on the previous site, which was much better than the new version is up to now (imho). The shown interest (clicks) gave me additional motivation to take the time for the uploads and I will therefore only upload a few photographs as long as I have the impression that - nearly -  nobody is interested in them. I have only limited time, it's as simple as that and I think it's the same with many other persons here.

From a pure photo blogger's view (upload and forget) this may be an apt website but there are many other people here who expect more from the "World's Central for Ship Photography and Information". We better leave it to the members themselves to determine how they want to shape this website. There should be room for different views and philosophies about this site.

We should all struggle to further improve this version and to revive the community spirit which is not doing well at the moment to put it mildly. This community spirit was one of the main ingredients of the previous site and really made a difference to similar websites.

Best wishes, Hans
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on September 06, 2022, 02:07:09 PM
Hi Hans and Simon,

I suggest we wait until Hugo has solved the problems with the buffer that he is referring to in his long email. If the situation does not improve after that  we must think of other solutions.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Simon Harrack on September 08, 2022, 07:52:55 PM
Apparently there is a new problem when uploading inland vessels. The upload mask has been changed and the zero in the first position of the ENI number is no longer accepted. So apparently some images were uploaded today without the ENI number.
This is a serious problem, because you can't upload the images now. Does anyone have the same problem?

Here is an example of the ship Tyro from Robbie Cox. The ENI number is 02008214 -> But he can't write the zero in the first place and he wrote instead: 20082140.

So the assignment of the ships does not fit at all.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Jens Boldt on September 08, 2022, 08:38:44 PM
Indeed, adding or editing an ENI number also is impossible at the moment. The leading zero is not accepted as a digit, thus the system thinks you're trying to add a 7-digit number instead of an 8-digit number and you get the corresponding error message...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on September 09, 2022, 09:50:25 AM
Many thanks for the "restored" feature with the Builder and other details now added (as we had previously on the old site) - for me a much welcome return.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on September 09, 2022, 12:59:56 PM
Hello everyone,

Quick update here, the issue with the ENI field has been resolved.
It is again possible to insert ENI numbers starting with zero (ex: 02008214)

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on September 11, 2022, 03:08:51 PM
I am not happy with the fact thab for every new upload there is the message:
Form has been populated with data from your last uploaded photo. Clear form
That is an additional and not necessary click.
Clicking the button UPLOAD on the top right of the screen, I expect each time a new, clean form.
Can this be changed please? Thank you.

Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on September 11, 2022, 06:03:36 PM
I just uploaded a shot to see what you meant. I am afraid I did not get that message you are talking about...
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on September 11, 2022, 06:10:23 PM
@ Pieter: A  single shot does not show it, two and more is the issue.
It occurs with uploading your next photo and every one after that......................
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on September 11, 2022, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: Pieter_Inpijn on September 11, 2022, 06:10:23 PM
@ Pieter: A  single shot does not show it, two and more is the issue.
It occurs with uploading your next photo and every one after that......................

But I thought that the multiple upload was intended for maximum four shots of the same ship taken at the same occasion. In such a case I would be happy to see the form already be filled out when I would upload a second shot or more, as the main content would not change.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on September 12, 2022, 01:18:44 PM
I actually like the feature - I prefer to upload individually as adding more than one at a time uploads them in a random order - having the data pre filled saves typing or cut/pasting the details.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on September 12, 2022, 01:35:57 PM
Hugo has solved the problem, both options now exist side by side.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on September 13, 2022, 12:49:25 PM
I've uploaded 4 photos of the same vessel. After getting the message of successful upload, two of the thumbnails show empty "No image" fields, even as the correct photos appear after clicking on this "empty" field. Anybody?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on September 13, 2022, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: lappino on September 13, 2022, 12:49:25 PM
I've uploaded 4 photos of the same vessel. After getting the message of successful upload, two of the thumbnails show empty "No image" fields, even as the correct photos appear after clicking on this "empty" field. Anybody?

Hi Lappino,

We've experiencing some outages on our servers yesterday (12/09/2022) which lead to some unscheduled maintenance today 13/09/2022 00:00 to 00:20 and again from 02:00 to 02:40 that forced our servers to not be able to respond.
I believe this could be the cause for the issues you've experienced.

Could you indicate to which 4 photos this has happened, and maybe we can resolve the issue.

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: lappino on September 13, 2022, 02:16:25 PM
Hi Hugo,

The "empty" photos are these:

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3470686?navList=gallery&user=97244&page=1

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3470683?navList=gallery&user=97244&page=1

Bot are for the tug "Piilani", IMO No. 9369186.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on September 14, 2022, 10:55:03 AM
Given the fact that we repeatedly get spam accounts on the forum that resurrect old threads, would it be possible to introduce more measures to weed out non-human registrants?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: pieter melissen on September 14, 2022, 11:07:22 AM
Quote from: Tuomas Romu on September 14, 2022, 10:55:03 AM
Given the fact that we repeatedly get spam accounts on the forum that resurrect old threads, would it be possible to introduce more measures to weed out non-human registrants?

As of next week a new piece of external software is going to be installed that will hopefully effectively eliminate the possibilities to post.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Hugo Vieira on September 14, 2022, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: lappino on September 13, 2022, 02:16:25 PM
Hi Hugo,

The "empty" photos are these:

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3470686?navList=gallery&user=97244&page=1

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3470683?navList=gallery&user=97244&page=1

Bot are for the tug "Piilani", IMO No. 9369186.

Thanks!

Thumbs are fixed for the indicated photos.

Cheers
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on September 29, 2022, 10:10:58 AM
If the photo counter only "counts" when you click the thumbnail to go full size, just change the setting so it "counts" someone clicking the thumbnail to start with. :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: simonwp on September 29, 2022, 05:49:16 PM
I don't click thumbnails.....they are good enough now to view without clicking.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on September 29, 2022, 06:49:56 PM
I know that - my point is the thumbnail being looked over should be "counted" instead because as others have said you no longer need to "open" a photo anymore. :)
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: simonwp on October 02, 2022, 04:33:07 PM
How exactly do you do that????

I must say I prefer the way the thumbnails are now, no need to open for a quick look, I only open the one's I'm really interested in, which, is probably a better measure of "likes".
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: csaba on October 02, 2022, 07:43:34 PM
Agree with Simon. If I like the photo but don't open it I give a "like" as a acknowledgement to the photographer. 
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Patrick Hill on October 15, 2022, 02:35:24 PM
Forgive me if I've missed a notification, I've just spotted that ShipSpotting now allow Ships Monthly to publish photos off here unless you opt out. As I used to get paid for photos in SM and I can't see how (without buying SM) we would know our photos are being used and expect the payment, therefore I have declined this option.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tony_Birdman on October 23, 2022, 10:26:32 PM
Tony here,

Id like to thank the people involved with returning of the shipbuilders info etc, they used to have it here but the owner had to let it go back almost 10 years back and back then you could look at all vessels built by the builder of a particular vessel and every vessel that has a pic would be displayed, i have only just come back on here and found out this info is back again.

this site is now very very good again, always liked looking at ships built by particular vessels, i got depressed when the info back years ago went. i think the supplier of the info was grosstonnage.com


a big thumbs up again 👍

Tony.
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on February 20, 2024, 11:33:43 AM
Noticed minor bug in the HTML/BB Code generator:

Code: [Select]
<br/>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td align=center>
<a href="https://www.shipspotting.com">ShipSpotting.com</a>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align=center>
<a href="photos/3679298"><img src="https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/small/8/9/2/3679298.jpg?cb=0"></a>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align=center>&copy; Captain Peter</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br/>
and

Code: [Select]
[url=https://www.shipspotting.com]ShipSpotting.com[/url]
[url=photos/3679298][img]https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/small/8/9/2/3679298.jpg?cb=0[/img][/url]
&copy; Captain Peter

As you can see, the URL in the photograph does not include the domain (https://www.shipspotting.com) and as a result the link back to the full-size photograph on this website will not work.

Furthermore, &copy; does not work on forums (as is apparent here).
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Richard Paton on March 01, 2024, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: Patrick Hill on October 15, 2022, 02:35:24 PM
Forgive me if I've missed a notification, I've just spotted that ShipSpotting now allow Ships Monthly to publish photos off here unless you opt out. As I used to get paid for photos in SM and I can't see how (without buying SM) we would know our photos are being used and expect the payment, therefore I have declined this option.

Is there a specific page on this website site that allows you to opt out?
Title: Re: Soon - New website design
Post by: Tuomas Romu on March 03, 2024, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: Richard Paton on March 01, 2024, 09:21:46 PM

Is there a specific page on this website site that allows you to opt out?

Go to your profile (click your name in the top bar), then "Photos" (in the leftmost vertical bar with blue background), then "Settings" (in the second-leftmost vertical bar with white background), and there'll you have the checkbox for opting out.