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Title: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Tomas on October 09, 2007, 07:35:01 PM
The chemical tanker "Doris" (http://www.utkilen.no/visartikkel.asp?art=247) collidied tonight with a small fishingvessel. One person is missing,

Will update.

Tomas
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 09, 2007, 07:55:54 PM
Sorry to hear Tomas. This is happening more and more often unfortunatly.
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Tomas on October 09, 2007, 08:21:32 PM
Yep, strange, with such modern equipment, navigation-vise, that this cant be avoided?
Man har for travelt, sp
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Nathan on October 09, 2007, 09:12:39 PM
Quite suprised about this, Norway is quite bisy, shipping wise. Thought the fishing vessel wound of seen what was coming toward it!
Any more information?
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Tomas on October 09, 2007, 09:23:51 PM
Latest is that the wreck is towed to shore as we... Speak, and that one of the crew is missing. Ouch, bad stuff, this.
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 09, 2007, 09:41:19 PM
There is many factors playing into this and it's to early to say for sure.

Just remember that according to the rules of the road the fishingvessel has the right of way when fishing. To complicate  things further, many small fishingvessels actually don't man the wheelhouse all the time 'cause they have to help out working on deck preparing the catch on their way in.

And in the end you always have the fact that in many of these cases you have a small fishing boat of wood or fiberglass in relatively heavy seas. This makes it a har "target" to sea for  radars (especially newer ones with a lot of fancy clutter functions and videoprsessing) and the small fishingboats don't have AIS.

A further cause for this might be a watchstander problem on the tanker with problems ranging from not vigilant enough (or present) lookouts, fatigue, training, work ethics, work load on the mates or a combination of all of the above.

This is all to early to say anyhting about it, except for that it is a tragic accident for all involved.  :-(
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 10, 2007, 08:04:36 AM
For Norwegian speakers hers is an article from this morning it also shows a map and pictures of the two boats involved.

http://www.tk.no/nyheter/article3048271.ece
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Timsen on October 10, 2007, 10:17:07 AM
On Oct 9 at 7.25 p.m. the chemical tank m/v
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Timsen on October 10, 2007, 10:23:49 AM
Here is a collection of links with Norwegian reports, photos and videos:

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/10/10/514585.html

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/10/09/514579.html

 http://www.rbnett.no/article/20071009/LOKALNYTT/71009014/1005#

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/innenriks/article1378715.ece

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/moreromsdal/article957938.ece

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/10/09/514579.html

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=173924

http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/nyheter/spill
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 10, 2007, 11:43:10 AM
As a matter of coincidence HNoMS Tyr is actually a "controlled minelayer", but is equipped with ROV's and has over the later years been frequently used in search of missing persons in incidents like this. Likewise she has been used in the investigations of wrecks.
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: on October 10, 2007, 02:21:30 PM
Doris (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=509982&cid=46)
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 12, 2007, 12:16:37 PM
During the hearings today it was established that the fishingvessel had the right of way.

I will attempt to translate the transcriptions fra the VHF log  of the Coastal radiostation receiving the calls (Flor
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Gunnar Olsen on October 12, 2007, 03:58:43 PM
Yes that is truly a sad story. Have they found the guy yet? I read on a faroese newssite and they say that he is probably dead.
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 12, 2007, 07:39:30 PM
Well, it would be miracle if he was still alive, but I don't see that as very likely.

He is still missing to my knowledge.

He was actually a survivor of the Tsunami, I think in Thailand......
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Gunnar Olsen on October 12, 2007, 11:39:32 PM
Yes, he was. He almost saved a english family. He knew the area well but they abandoned him and he saw them being crushed by the waves. He said to the norwegian newspaper Dagbladet onboard the vessel which he probably died on, that he never found peace until he was back onboard his boat. Was it a Selfa boat?
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Bjarne Pettersen on October 13, 2007, 01:24:27 PM
Am not 100 pst sure but believe it to be a Selfa Arctic '35
Title: Re: ship-collision outside Norway
Post by: Gunnar Olsen on October 13, 2007, 07:17:05 PM
Judging by the photos of the wreck, she looks like a Selfa. Just wanted it confirmed :-D