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Title: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Stan Muller on October 08, 2010, 11:21:28 AM
YM Uranus sunk 100km off Bretagne after colision with Hanjin Richzad
crew of 13 saved.
YM Uranus... what's in a name..
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1146826
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Allan RO on October 08, 2010, 11:31:29 AM
Hi Stan,

This must be a mythological collision as according to Equasis, there is no such Hanjin vessel.  I suspect press reports are incorrect (as usual) and they mean the 2010 built Hanjin Rizhao.  (unless Richzad is another new build which has not yet appeared in Equasis)

Allan
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Fred Vloo on October 08, 2010, 11:34:04 AM
Rescue ships scrambled Friday to save a  stricken chemical tanker adrift off France's Atlantic coast after a collision  with a freighter forced its crew to abandon ship, maritime officials said.
   A deepwater tug attached a tow-rope to the 120-metre (400-foot)  Maltese-flagged YM Uranus after an evaluation team boarded the ship, which is  reportedly carrying 6,000 tonnes of solvents, the coastguard said.
   The ship's 13-member crew took to the life rafts shortly before dawn from  where they were winched to safety by rescue helicopter, said the coastguard  headquarters in the nearby Brittany town of Brest.
   The ship was said to be "taking on large amounts of water" after colliding  with a bulk carrier 50 nautical miles south-west of the island of Ouessant.
   The coastguard later said that they had started to pump some of the water  out of the ship, with no pollution visible.
   "We're in more of a favourable situation than an unfavourable one,"  maritime authority spokesman Marc Gander told journalists in Brest.
   The authorities are waiting for the ship to be ready to be towed before  "knowing what we'll do in the coming hours," he said.
   The YM Uranus was built in 2008 and is compartmentalised with a  double-hull, Gander said, reducing the risk of the solvents leaking into the  sea.
   "The convoy will be travelling at four knots, which means that it'll take  12 to 13 hours if they're coming this way," to Brest, Gander said.
   The two boats were travelling in the same direction when they collided  during the night, apparently as one was overtaking the other, he added.
   The Regional Operational Centre for Monitoring and Rescue (CROSS)  dispatched a navy frigate and the tug to the area. The Uranus was travelling  between Porto Marghera in Italy and Amsterdam.
   The other ship was the Hanjin Richzad, a 191-metre Panama-flagged cargo  ship, which was travelling between Las Palmas in Spain and Rotterdam in the  Netherlands.
   Weather at the time of the accident was clement, with a 1.50 metre swell,  the coastguard said.
   The Brittany coast leads from the Atlantic Ocean to the Channel, one of the  world's busiest waterways, and has in the past been hit by several  environmental disasters linked to shipping.
   In 1978, the sinking of Liberian-flagged supertanker the Amoco Cadiz  devastated around 320 kilometres (200 miles) of pristine Brittany coast with  230,000 tonnes of crude oil.
   In 1999, the Erika tanker carrying 30,000 tonnes of heavy fuel oil broke in  two and sank off Brittany, polluting a large stretch of coastline and killing  tens of thousands of seabirds.
   The ship's owner Total found guilty of failing to address maintenance  problems when it chartered the rusty 25-year-old tanker Erika.
   French beach resorts were deserted, fishing was halted and shellfish banned  from consumption in the aftermath of the oil spill, leaving the local economy  on its knees for years.
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Stan Muller on October 08, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
The journalists forget to check Shipspotting first before publishing! :-D
I couldn't find Richzad either on the www, so I think your conclusion is correct.
brgds Stan
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Kelvin Davies on October 08, 2010, 01:38:15 PM
The BBC had it right though, in their early morning report they named the Hanjin ship correctly.
They are also showing the tanker to be under tow, not under the water (12:45 BST)
Kelvin
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Jos on October 08, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
I read the correct ship name as HANJIN RINZHAO in an Australian press report this morning. If you check MarineTraffic you can find YM URANUS and HANJIN RINZHAO in the area today. According to the described track both vessels NE bound. I think the mistake cames from the French side. If you check the first press release from the Prefecture Maritime de L'Atlantique the name given for the HANJIN ship is RICHZAD. This mistake was in the whole Spanish newspapers.

http://www.premar-atlantique.gouv.fr/ ... mmuniques/2010/10/08.html

Cheers,
JL
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Phil English on October 08, 2010, 02:38:55 PM
NOT correct. Hanjin RIZHAO, not Hanjin Rinzhao.
Rizhao is a Chinese port city in Shandong Province, known for steel making and heavy industry, hence the name chosen for the Hanjin ship.
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Jos on October 08, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
Yes I agree. It is my mistake, the correct name is HANJIN RIZHAO. Sorry, I think your post is a little bit rude.
In the other hand and according to the Press Release No. 3 the ABEILLE BOURBON is towing the YM URANUS bound for Brest.
Cheers,
JL
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Phil English on October 08, 2010, 03:51:09 PM
Sorry Cantabria, I didn't mean to be rude. It's terribly frustrating when news agencies and the like mis-spell or get ships names compeletely wrong. When even shipspotters get it wrong, it's disheartening. However, everyone makes mistakes and it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.  :-)
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Wim Plokker on October 08, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Very sorry to say that you all knows the name better but when looking into this they are all incorrect. Specially those from the new waterway which call them self an expert.

Firstly check names very carefully and more backgrolund then reply  to avoid any misunderstanding and that is a speciality of those photographers of the Waterway they everything  but they dont even known one percent
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Fred Vloo on October 08, 2010, 05:10:01 PM
Dag Wim,
Wanneer je niks zinnigs te melden heb, doe het dan helemaal niet.
Het bericht dat ik geplaatst heb is gewoon een persbericht van Reuter.
Dat die niet altijd kloppen mag duidelijk zijn en de reden waarom is ook duidelijk. Met mekaar komen we vervolgens wel achter de feiten. Ik hoop dat je de volgende keer ook wat feiten te melden hebt.
Enne een expert ben ik allerminst.
Vriendelijke groet
Fred Vloo
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Jos on October 08, 2010, 06:48:50 PM
Many thanks Phil. Well, I saw the mistake in the media and tried to confirm the names. It is my usual way, always confirm & check first. Seems like my mistake was just when I was writing the post.
Cheers,
JL
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Jos on October 08, 2010, 09:35:59 PM
According to the Press Release No.4 she will be docked tonight at Brest (Naval Base). Some pics here (http://www.premar-atlantique.gouv.fr/galeries/Ym-Uranus)
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Jos on October 08, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
According to the Press Release No.4 she will be berthed tonight at Brest (Naval Base). Some pics here (http://www.premar-atlantique.gouv.fr/galeries/Ym-Uranus)
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Per K on October 08, 2010, 10:08:56 PM
This is a sad story. Hope there is a technical explenation and not an human error that caused this accident.
Brings back memories from standing lookout on the bridge in the Mediterranean in the eighties, when those old freighters came ramming trough the fog with noone but the freshly installed autopilot at the helm.

Best regards

Per
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Michel FLOCH on October 09, 2010, 06:46:15 AM
The  YM URANUS is arrived during the last night in the neighborhood of midnight to Brest towed by the Abeille Bourbon.
She is now moored in the naval base.
You can see her on one of webcams of this site: http://www.brest.maville.com/meteo/webcam.php

Regards

Michel
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Michel FLOCH on October 09, 2010, 08:42:11 AM
A little video of the rescue operations:

http://videos.letelegramme.com/player.php?sig=iLyROoaf8tcM

Regards

Michel
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Michel FLOCH on October 09, 2010, 08:56:34 AM
A video of the towing of YM URANUS:
 
http://www.ouest-france.fr/actu/actuDet_-Apres-12-heures-de-remorquage-le-chimiquier-accidente-est-arrive-a-bon-port-a-Brest_39382-1541764_actu.Htm


And the last info about YM URANUS.

http://www.letelegramme.com/ig/generales/regions/bretagne/sauvetage-le-chimiquier-a-quai-a-brest-diapo-09-10-2010-1077292.php

Michel
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Lysfoss on October 09, 2010, 10:45:07 AM
But she hasnt sunk!!!!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1009/englishchannel.html
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Michel FLOCH on October 09, 2010, 12:29:03 PM
No, of course !
The first one who posted on this thread of discussion was a little bit fast!
And everybody believed it...
You know well that you should not believe all that we read on Web.
Photos of the YM Uranus alongside the quay in the Naval base of Brest :
- http://www.photos-de-navires.com/gallery/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=16587
- http://www.photos-de-navires.com/gallery/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=16588

Regards

Michel
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: OURSBEN on October 10, 2010, 09:12:10 AM
Thank U Dad!!! :-D
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Stan Muller on October 10, 2010, 10:48:25 AM
When newspapers and some respected news websites mention YM Uranus being sunk, well that is news for Shipspotting.com.
It is more easy to wait and see untill photos and pictures are all over the www.
But when is news called news? The topic has well over a 1.000 hits and a lot of links to articles and photos. I think this growing topic was news for a lot of people
I started & followed this thread with great interest, despite of not being correct at that (first) moment, allthough what is the defenition of being sunk? She does not look to be in a comfortable postion.

Thanks for responding, the links the & news updates.

best rgds
Stan
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Michel FLOCH on October 10, 2010, 10:49:30 AM
Last infos about YM URANUS :
 
The most important damages are situated on port, in front of the castle.
A breach of 8 m on 5 m was noticed by the divers who have, besides verified the integrity of holds, effectively protected by the double hull).
The YM URANUS, although having a gite strong is safe. No leak was noticed.  
The STOLT TEAL is presently heading to Brest where she has to load the cargo of the YM URANUS. She should arrive tomorrow morning.

Regards

Michel
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Fred Vloo on October 10, 2010, 04:19:44 PM
Hi Stan,
I agree with you. I myself have access to several news agencies. When I am at the office behind my desk I'll be able to upload in a real short time. I have no time to check the facts, I have a busy job. Knowing we are here with a large group of enthousiast spotters with a lot of knowledge and enough members that have time to check all the facts. So next time instead of correcting people, just add your facts.
Here one more fact: the damage to Hanjin Rizhao
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo-1193664-Hanjin+Rizhao
Cheers Fred
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Wim Plokker on October 11, 2010, 05:13:35 PM
Ga dan zelf geen onzinnige berichten op het net zetten

Neem een voorbeeldf aan je zelf eerst slap lullen en het niet waar kunnen maken Typisch voor gasten van de Waterweg Grote bek weing resultaten
Title: Re: YM Uranus sunk off Bretagne
Post by: Klaas-Jan Brouwer on October 15, 2010, 09:50:24 PM
Ga dan zelf geen onzinnige berichten op het net zetten

Neem een voorbeeldf aan je zelf eerst slap lullen en het niet waar kunnen maken Typisch voor gasten van de Waterweg Grote bek weing resultaten

Hi Wim,

Because this is a site with members all arround the world, just keep this discussion in English, will you?

Seems you are jealous about spotters on the Nieuwe Waterweg. According your statements (which is allowed) all spotters at the Nieuwe Waterweg are the same and know nothing about the business.

Bullshit! Use your mind when you are posting something on this forum, but unfortunately you didn't so far...

Most of the members try to post something usefull and because we all are human beings, faults or mistakes can be made. Just try to accept it and / or add additional information. Thank you!

I can say I know something about the maritime industries, because I am working in it and according my papers I am a naval architect. And yes, you can find me often at the Nieuwe Waterweg...

Kind regards,

Klaas-Jan