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Shipspotters all over the world => Site related news, functions and modules => Topic started by: kensmith on October 29, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
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Hi All,
As you will know we have had a difficult time with the Website over the past few weeks which has been hard for us all particularly for me because I have not been able to communicate with you for updates.
The main reason for this was a clash with Codes on the old site conflicting with those introduced on the new one which have built up over time and eventually caused the website to crash.
During the past few weeks a great deal of work has taken place to overcome this and we owe it to Henrik for what he has done to rectify the problem, it has not been easy and much discussion has taken place during this time to ensure it does not happen again and I can confirm that as a result of this a new server will be installed.
Most of the work has now been completed and the website is almost back to normal, there are however one or two problems to resolve before the the new server is installed.
We must now play our part in ensuring that this never happens again so with this in mind changes have been made with regard to the number of photographs that can be uploaded at a given time, we get on average up to 400/500 photographs uploaded daily and the maximum has been six at any one time, to ease the pressure this has now been reduced to four and rule 5 has been amended accordingly.
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5. How many photos of a vessel can be posted at the same time?
When posting multiple photos of the same vessel taken on the same Date, the submission must be restricted to a maximum of 4 photographs with a significant change of Aspect/Angle between the photographs.
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This new rule will take effect from Monday Nov 3rd 2014
My thanks to you all for your continued support and I would urge all members and in particular new ones to ensure that they read and familiarise themselves with the Website Rules and Standards and also the Uploading Guidelines and they can be found here
http://www.shipspotting.com/support/index.php
Kind regards
Ken Smith
Webmaster
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Hi Ken,
Many thanks for letting us know.
4 photos of the same vessel taken in sequence means in practice that the angle of view has now increased from 30
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Hello Ken
Four (4) photos for a ship is excellent, one from fore to aft and one viceversa plus one per band are great to show a whole ship.
Regards
Tomi.
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I think would be better to limit number of photos of the same vessel per person/portfolio as well.What I see some members have more than 30-40 photos of the same vessel and continue to upload them.I do not see the reason.This is just clogging server. >:( :'(
I do not like to watch the same local ferries every a couple days.
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So uploading 6 photos of same vessel from one date as 1-2 per day or between many days/weeks/months would be wrong? I thought it was about reducing the pressure on site by limiting the amount of photos a member plans to upload non-stop during one day.
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Hi Ken and Henrik.
Thanks for the clear explanation as always. Also thanks for the effort the team has done, in order to make everything run again on the site.
Rgds Hannes.
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Thanks for all good work done so we still can show our maritime pictures and videoes in this elegant way.
It is also a very great pleasure to look at pictures and videoes, and in some cases comment on them. The range in ships age and types make SHIPSPOTTING very interesting and informative, esp. for me, not having much experience as sailor at all. But I use every opportunity to catch pics and videoes.
Best regards from cold Norway
Tygve Eriksen
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I think Denis makes a VERY valid point which perhaps should be addressed
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Thumbs up from me.
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Perhaps another thing that should be kept in mind is the multiplicity (if that is a word) of shots of individual ships. When posting a picture here I always use the search function first to see whether and if so what pictures of the ship are already on the site. In the case of "dead"ships chances are of cause greater that there will be a limited number of pictures, but as far as modern ships are concerned I do not have the illusion that the shots I take during my daily cycle tour through the Europoort will produce a lot of added value if I posted them here. In other words there is much redundancy on the site, and that only be addressed by using self restraint by the posters. This may conflict with the definition of "spotting"(and therefore posting), but it will save on bandwith and opportunities for the site to crash.
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I have some sympathy with Pieter's point. Sinisa said much the same a little earlier.
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Hello,
I think, it is time to extend servers, and make things work properly again. Work on the disease, not just trying to cure the symptoms!
But, the same time, I believe the possibility of upload numbers recently was very generous. I would also not mind, if the rule was, that one person can upload just 2 photos of one ship spotted on one day. If generous, make it three.
Greetings,
Cornelia
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I have some sympathy with Pieter's point. Sinisa said much the same a little earlier.
In a way, David, Sinisa is pointing at "one" poster, posting 30odd shots of the same ship, while I am more concerned about 30 posters posting the same ship (at least once). That is clearly a case of the law of diminishing returns.
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I think, it is time to extend servers, and make things work properly again. Work on the disease, not just trying to cure the symptoms!
Isn't it the other way around:
Running out of server capacity is a symptom of people posting too many pictures. Changing the members' posting habits is a cure to the disease.
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Tuomas, one of the main objectives of the site is to post pictures....it just needs to be done in a more controlled way.
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Tuomas, no it is not the other way around, you are wrong here.
The answer is not so simple, to say "people post too many photos".
When this site here started, there were just a few people posting photos, and digital cameras were not so common yet. Also, shipspotting was not so common yet. This site has grown immensely during past few years, not just because members post what some think "too many" photos, but as well there is an increase of shipspotters from all around the world in general! Remember, when this site started, even internet was not something everyone had and used :)
So, it does depend: What does this site want? Many shipspotters who upload a certain number of photos? That is fine with me. But, increasing number of members? That means also more photos.
It does also depend on, how much the owners want to invest into this site, or if they just want to run a badly repaired car.
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Tuomas is actually right, in terms of the context anyway.
"Work on the disease, not just trying to cure the symptoms"
you cannot cure symptoms, they are the signals of a problem. you can only cure or irradicate the disease
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Too many photos? Redundancies? A few random examples:
AZURA, cruise liner, 299 pics,
CAP SAN DIEGO, museum ship, 268 pics,
IDA RAMBOW, feeder, 261 pics,
CRESTWAY, dredger, 190 pics
QUEEN ELIZABETH 2, 815 pics (!)
It is not possible to investigate this systematically.
But there is no doubt that some ships are spotted "too often", just because they are frequent visitors in ports with many active shipspotters.
The situation is a wee bit lopsided indeed.
cheers
Uwe
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Hi Ken,
May I submit that you distinguish between docked vessels and sailing vessels? On the same date you may take photos of a docked vessel, and later on the same day you may take some more photos of the same vessel sailing (or vice-versa), and that is certainly not the same kind of photo. And viewers may have an interest in both...
How can we handle that, post multiple photos of each situation (if need be), and still comply with the R&R?
Best regards,
Jos
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Now that the new rule is in effect for about three weeks, maybe it's about time to change rule no. 7 (Site standards for all photos) accordingly ::)
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Following on from my comments in another thread I would be interested to know why some posters do post so many shots of the same ship on the same day, or even the same ship on different days.
Speaking personally, if there is more than one page of photographs of a ship when I search, I rarely look at more than the first page. If someone has posted six different shots of a ship at slightly different angles as it passes them, I just skip through them and don't really look.