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Title: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on September 30, 2011, 10:58:04 AM: For our Eastern Canada posse:

The Caribou and Smallwood are expected to arrive at Alang on Monday 3rd October. It's the last day of the current beaching tide, so all being well, they will beach immediately on arrival for demolition to commence.

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Dean Porter on September 30, 2011, 11:39:10 AM: Thanks for the updated Phil. Please keep them coming. Hopefully we will see some photos

Thanks again
Dean
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Post by: newf on September 30, 2011, 02:08:39 PM: i hope someone can video tape the beaching and the cutting, It will be a sad day for everyone who love these ships :(
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Post by: Jarrod David on September 30, 2011, 02:51:12 PM: Sad day indeed!!!

Thanks for the update Phil.
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Post by: Kyle Larabee on September 30, 2011, 10:38:59 PM: Ya that is vary sad news :(

Kyle
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Post by: kasco on October 01, 2011, 12:19:41 PM: Thanks Phil for keeping us in mind.
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Post by: Jarrod David on October 04, 2011, 01:36:25 PM: I was just wondering if anyone can confirm that the Caribo & smallwood made it to the beach at Alang, India?
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: CedricH on October 04, 2011, 03:01:29 PM: Hi,

if you look on Equasis, the status given to both ships is "to be broken up" so I presume they have been beached.

Regards
Cedric
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 05, 2011, 08:07:39 AM: No, they are not yet beached. They missed the beaching tide on the 3rd October and latest were due to arrive at Alang anchorage PM yesterday local time. Next beaching tide is not until Oct 10 - 18th

The Equasis status merely confirms that they have been sold for scrap.

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jarrod David on October 05, 2011, 02:20:23 PM: Thanks very much for the update Phil.I appreciate that very much.

Take Care
Jarrod
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Post by: Stefan Niederer on October 05, 2011, 05:30:27 PM: Thanks for the update. I hope we will get some pictures or even better some videos from the beaching and scrap process.

Stefan
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 05, 2011, 06:36:07 PM: Stefan,

Visitors with photographic equipment are not usually welcomed at Alang demolition yards. It's therefore unlikely that any photos or videos will be posted, unless we have any seafarers on these particular ships, or Alang workers, as active members !

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Stefan Niederer on October 05, 2011, 06:39:29 PM: Let's hope so. I belive that some crewmembers also will record this. Maybe one is so kind to share... :D
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: CedricH on October 06, 2011, 07:38:57 PM: Hi,

if you want to catch an update on the breaking of the ships, keep an eye on Peter Knego's MidShipCentury. He goes to Alang to rescue furniture and other stuff from ships which he then sells on his website. There is also a page with pictures of ships on the beaches so pictures of these two may also appear
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Stefan Niederer on October 07, 2011, 05:11:12 AM: Thanks for that link. ;D
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Post by: Jeff on October 09, 2011, 11:13:33 PM: Just wondering if anyone heard the latest on the ships? And phil, are you getting your information from a website?
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Post by: Phil English on October 10, 2011, 08:05:32 AM: Jeff, all

Both ships arrived at Alang anchorage on 6th October. My information is from local Alang sources, not from a website.

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jeff on October 10, 2011, 07:14:21 PM: Thats pretty neat to have a source in alang. I guess they'll soon meet their end. Very disappointing news
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 10, 2011, 08:43:15 PM: It's just part of what I get paid to do :)

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jeff on October 13, 2011, 02:41:25 AM: Have the vessels been beached?
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 13, 2011, 10:33:11 AM: Jeff,

Caribou was beached 12/10/2011 on plot 58
Smallwood was beached 13/10/2011 on plot 60

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: kasco on October 13, 2011, 10:40:43 AM: Thanks Phil.
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Dean Porter on October 13, 2011, 11:39:07 AM: Hi Phil,

Thank-you very much for the information on the Caribou and Smallwood. Is there anyway you can get some photoso of them on the beach.

Thanks again
Dean
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 13, 2011, 11:42:13 AM: Dean, I'm at a desk in London, not Alang - so unfortunately no!

Brgds
Phil
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Post by: Dean Porter on October 13, 2011, 11:49:56 AM: Phil,

I didn't you yourself could, I was thinking maybe you source can.

Regards
Dean
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 13, 2011, 12:07:15 PM: Unfortunately not Dean. I am not in personal contact with anyone. I just receive a market bulletin from an Alang shipbreaker which contains this information.

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jarrod David on October 13, 2011, 02:09:46 PM: Phil These 2 vessels had a huge following around Atlantic Canada and many cared what happened to them.We are passionate about our ferries here. So on behalf of all of the Canadian shipspotters thanks very much for keeping us informed!

Take care
Jarrod
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Phil English on October 13, 2011, 02:23:07 PM: You are very welcome Jarrod. I realised that there was a lot of interest in these ships from the messages on the forum earlier this year. I only wish I was in a position to obtain some photos for you. Sadly I doubt it will be possible.

Brgds
Phil
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jarrod David on October 13, 2011, 02:30:06 PM: I totally understand.No sweat,I know you would if you could.
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Dean Porter on October 13, 2011, 03:00:22 PM: Thank-you very much for the updates.

Kind Regards
Dean
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Post by: Kyle Larabee on October 14, 2011, 01:40:59 AM: Thx for the updates !

Kyle
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2011, 07:45:16 PM: Just curious to know if there was any word on if they are being scrapped or awaiting scrap or if anyone has found pictures of them being scrapped
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Kyle Larabee on October 29, 2011, 12:01:06 AM: Quote from: Jeff on October 28, 2011, 07:45:16 PM
Just curious to know if there was any word on if they are being scrapped or awaiting scrap or if anyone has found pictures of them being scrapped
They are at alang india waiting to be scrap :(
No pic's yet.

Kyle
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Jarrod David on October 31, 2011, 09:10:27 PM: Here is a link to a photo of Caribou & smallwood on the beach at alang courtesy of The Gulf News in Port Aux Basques,

http://www.gulfnews.ca/

Take Care
Jarrod
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Ben Mugford on November 01, 2011, 10:07:38 PM: I just picked up the paper and saw the article and picture on the front page. Still hard to believe they're being scrapped. They look surreal sitting on the beach side by side like that. Seems like yesterday I was just a kid going on board.
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Post by: kyle pesely on November 03, 2011, 06:54:51 PM: at least they were born, lived and died side by side.

thats more than most sister ships can say.
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Post by: sjosame on November 19, 2011, 03:58:59 PM: Pretty strange seeing robust, modern ferries like these being scrapped.
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: kasco on November 20, 2011, 01:19:06 PM: Quote from: sjosame on November 19, 2011, 03:58:59 PM
Pretty strange seeing robust, modern ferries like these being scrapped.
Sturdy vessels. When in service both sailed the North Atlantic, at times in conditions that would make your hair turn white.
So why would no ferry operator show any interest in adding them to their service? What would be the circumstances that made them only suitable for the breakers yard?
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: Dean Porter on November 20, 2011, 03:16:43 PM: I think only one reason, they are very expensive to operate.
Title: Re: CARIBOU / SMALLWOOD
Post by: rd77 on November 22, 2011, 10:46:32 AM: Quote from: Dean Porter on November 20, 2011, 03:16:43 PM
I think only one reason, they are very expensive to operate.

Indeed. Plus: vessels reportedly worn out from their hard work. Furthermore: bad maintenance, and inconvenient layout. Those things could be taken for granted in a good market, but alas, the market for used ferries is still really bad. The beach at Alang is currently full of "young" ferries which probably would have seen further employment in a different market: besides CARIBO and SMALLWOOD, there are currently: PRIDE OF TELEMARK (1983), EASTERN LIGHT (ex-SEAFRANCE RENOIR, 1981) and WESTERN LIGHT (ex-SEAFRANCE CEZANNE, 1980, completely rebuilt 1990).