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Shipspotters all over the world => Shipping News and information => Topic started by: Angelgreat on July 20, 2020, 09:39:56 PM
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On July 14, the fleet of Cruise and Marine Voyages was seized by the British government, sparking rumors of CMV possibly shutting down due to the pandemic. Well today, CMV sadly confirmed that Cruise and Marine Voyages as well as it's German subsidiary TransOcean Cruises were shutting down after 10 and 63 years respectively due to the pandemic. They also confirm the shut down of their upcoming French line, which haven't even started operations left.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23261-cruise-maritime-voyages-placed-into-administration.html
This is the third cruise line to shut down. The fleet is laid up and they might might get scrapped due to being vintage vessels. The Pacific Dawn and the Pacific Aria were going to transfer to CMV from P&O Australia, but with the shutdown of CMV, it's likely the vessels will be scrapped instead.
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"On July 14, the fleet of Cruise and Marine Voyages was seized by the British government" is incorrect. As I understand it, they have never been "seized" by the Government. Five of CMV's ships (ASTORIA, ASTOR, COLUMBUS and VASCO DA GAMA) in the UK were detained under port state control procedures due to deficiencies (mainly to do with crew welfare issues - late wage payments and expired contracts, widespread situations during Covid-19) - MAGELLAN was also inspected but not detained. This was about a month ago and we do not know at present whether those deficiencies have been rectified or whether the MCA has released any of the five affected ships, but CMV have indicated that much had been resolved.
That is quite different to the closure of the CMV companies. So far as I can tell, the ownership of the ships themselves is quite separate from the UK companies, owned by individual companies run from Global Cruise Lines, Athens, and chartered to CMV. So it remains to be seen what will happen to them (each owner will of course no longer be receiving any charter hire from CMV, so must also be compromised.
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"On July 14, the fleet of Cruise and Marine Voyages was seized by the British government" is incorrect. As I understand it, they have never been "seized" by the Government. Five of CMV's ships (ASTORIA, ASTOR, COLUMBUS and VASCO DA GAMA) in the UK were detained under port state control procedures due to deficiencies (mainly to do with crew welfare issues - late wage payments and expired contracts, widespread situations during Covid-19) - MAGELLAN was also inspected but not detained. This was about a month ago.
Thank you for the clarification, the CMV fleet was actually detained by the Maritime and Coastguard Agency on the 23 June 2020.
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the CMV fleet was actually detained by the Maritime and Coastguard Agency on the 23 June 2020.
Sorry, but that is not correct either. ASTORIA was the first to be inspected on Thursday 18 June, following many complaints from crew and their representatives - the ship had been due to sail for Portugal, apparently for repairs and certificate renewal - and she was in any case due to leave the CMV fleet at the expiry of her charter later this year. In consequence of the examination of crew records, the ship was detained on that day and an inspection commenced on the other ships, and they were also detained on the same day, to allow inspections on Friday 19th. It's all carefully set out here: https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/uk-mca-detains-cruise-ship-following-serious-crew-welfare-reports (https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/uk-mca-detains-cruise-ship-following-serious-crew-welfare-reports)
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Ok, I can understand my error, but we still need to save the vessels as some of them are former ocean liners like the 1965 built Marco Polo (ex. Aleksandr Pushkin) and the 1948 built Astoria (ex. Stockholm). These vessels should become floating hotels like the Queen Mary and the Rotterdam. As for Magellan, Vasco da Gama, and Columbus, those are former Carnival Corporation and PLC vessels and are 20-30 years old so they might be returned. As for Astor, well that's a tricky one as she has been operated by TransOcean Tours and CMV since 1988 (TransOcean from 1988 to 1991 and again from 1996 to 2013, CMV since 2013) so she may be sold to sail. Again, we can only hope for the best.
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We must start a petition on https://www.change.org/ & gather as much support as needed to save these wonderful ships from [not typed]. Who knows, maybe in case of success we can have them in our cities as trophies! I, for one, would take the COLUMBUS (IMO 8611398) & give it to our World Ocean Museum - they love collecting vessels here (already 5 ships + a flying boat & some submersibles).
I totally admire your enthusiasm but I think that you might need a reality check 😉
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We must start a petition on https://www.change.org/ & gather as much support as needed to save these wonderful ships from [not typed]. Who knows, maybe in case of success we can have them in our cities as trophies! I, for one, would take the COLUMBUS (IMO 8611398) & give it to our World Ocean Museum - they love collecting vessels here (already 5 ships + a flying boat & some submersibles).
Good idea.
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We must start a petition on https://www.change.org/ & gather as much support as needed to save these wonderful ships from [not typed]. Who knows, maybe in case of success we can have them in our cities as trophies! I, for one, would take the COLUMBUS (IMO 8611398) & give it to our World Ocean Museum - they love collecting vessels here (already 5 ships + a flying boat & some submersibles).
Good idea.
Good Idea but totally unrealistic Idea, I'm been a shipping enthusiast all my life, I joined the British Merchant Navy at 18 but I for one will not be signing the petition as it's absolutely pointless and again absolutely unrealistic!
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The entire fleet is for sale. I think this is to help pay off CMV's remaining debt, so here are the links.
Astoria: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1948/cruise-ship-550-passengers--completely-rebuilt-1994-stock-no-s2128-3049542/
Marco Polo: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1965/cruise-ship-850-passenger-stock-no-s2126-2677959/
Magellan: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/cruise-ship-1-452-passengers-stock-no-s2168-2739071/
Astor: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/cruise-ship-650-passengers--stock-no-s2306-3012359/
Columbus: N/A
Vasco Da Gama: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1993/cruise-ship--1250-passengers-stock-no-s2135-2687334/
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The vessels are still for sale. It's strange that the Columbus is not for sale online. This either means that they hadn't put up her listing yet or that she has already been sold off.
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Columbus is now for sale. They did put her listing up late. Here is the listing:
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/cruise-ship--1546-1856-passengers-stock-no-s2617-3699673/
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Now that the entire fleet is for sale online, here are the links to the CMV vessels again.
Astoria: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1948/cruise-ship-550-passengers--completely-rebuilt-1994-stock-no-s2128-3049542/
Marco Polo: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1965/cruise-ship-850-passenger-stock-no-s2126-2677959/
Magellan: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/cruise-ship-1-452-passengers-stock-no-s2168-2739071/
Astor: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/cruise-ship-650-passengers--stock-no-s2306-3012359/
Columbus: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/cruise-ship--1546-1856-passengers-stock-no-s2617-3699673/
Vasco Da Gama: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1993/cruise-ship--1250-passengers-stock-no-s2135-2687334/
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The vessels haven't been bought yet and are in danger of being sent to the scrapyard. We need to get buyers for the vessels.
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The vessels are still for sale. The news are even talking about the fleet being in limbo.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23395-cmv-cruise-ship-fleet-sits-in-limbo-status.html
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We need to get buyers for the vessels.
Who exactly are "we"?
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Oh no, the news are covering how the Magellan (ex. Holiday) is still laid up after CMV's bankruptcy.
https://cruiseradio.net/former-carnival-cruise-ship-awaits-fate/amp/
She's for sale online, but if no one buys her, she's going to join her younger and bigger sisters in the scrap yards. We have to try to get Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line to buy her as her sister ship Grand Celebration is currently sailing for them. Here's the link to her online listing.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/cruise-ship-1-452-passengers-stock-no-s2168-2739071/
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The listings for the CMV fleet now have a red TO BE SOLD AT AUCTION message. They are going to auction the ships off. We have to save the classic vessels!
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https://www.cruisetradenews.com/cruise-maritime-voyages-boss-makes-bid-to-relaunch-line/?fbclid=IwAR28K11QNmR8KGR8bB2ugS04R3CKND4WhcZy_FemgOb8tZhcyDaVmOGoUSQ
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It will of course be interesting to see if he is successful in relaunching the company. If he does, I would expect it to be with a somewhat smaller fleet, perhaps Magellan, Columbus and Vasco Da Gama.
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It will of course be interesting to see if he is successful in relaunching the company. If he does, I would expect it to be with a somewhat smaller fleet, perhaps Magellan, Columbus and Vasco Da Gama.
Yes, it is nice that someone bought the name and online assets of the cruise line, but if the cruise line is revived, than it would face the same challenges as a brand new cruise line. Also, the fleet are still going to be auction off, so it's likely that the fleet of the new CMV will be different.
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It is not just 'someone' it is the man that headed up CMV in the first place. He and his team will have already got a plan of action, dependent upon finding financing. That might be a bit more forthcoming with a slimmed down operation. With the company assets and data base already acquired all that would be needed would be a relaunch. It wouldn't be like a brand new company starting out afresh. As for ships, yes, the present CMV fleet is for sale but no one is going to beat a path to the administrators door to buy them. So, if funding can be found he'll just buy back the ships and probably market them under a slightly different name, such as C&M Cruises.
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It is not just 'someone' it is the man that headed up CMV in the first place. He and his team will have already got a plan of action, dependent upon finding financing. That might be a bit more forthcoming with a slimmed down operation. With the company assets and data base already acquired all that would be needed would be a relaunch. It wouldn't be like a brand new company starting out afresh. As for ships, yes, the present CMV fleet is for sale but no one is going to beat a path to the administrators door to buy them. So, if funding can be found he'll just buy back the ships and probably market them under a slightly different name, such as C&M Cruises.
True, but it may have to be a smaller fleet. Marco Polo and Astoria may be bought back, but the rest could still be sold off. Also, CMV Cruise Line sounds a bit better as it still links to the Cruise and Marine Voyages name.
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CW Kellock/Eggar Forrester has been appointed by the UK Admiralty Marshal for the sale by tender of the Global Maritime's fleet of five vessels, following the UK High Court granting applications from creditors.
The sales are as follows:
VASCO DA GAMA, bid deadline of 8th October 2020
COLUMBUS, 12th October 2020
MAGELLAN, 19th October 2020
ASTOR, 15th October 2020
MARCO POLO, 22nd October 2020
Further details here: https://eggarforresterships.com/auctions
Krispen
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CW Kellock/Eggar Forrester has been appointed by the UK Admiralty Marshal for the sale by tender of the Global Maritime's fleet of five vessels, following the UK High Court granting applications from creditors.
The sales are as follows:
VASCO DA GAMA, bid deadline of 8th October 2020
COLUMBUS, 12th October 2020
MAGELLAN, 19th October 2020
ASTOR, 15th October 2020
MARCO POLO, 22nd October 2020
Further details here: https://eggarforresterships.com/auctions
Krispen
Here's a link to confirm that.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23485-cruise-ship-fleet-headed-to-auction-block.html
Now, while it's nice that they're auctioning the vessels, I worry that some may be bought by scrappers.
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CW Kellock/Eggar Forrester has been appointed by the UK Admiralty Marshal for the sale by tender of the Global Maritime's fleet of five vessels, following the UK High Court granting applications from creditors.
The sales are as follows:
VASCO DA GAMA, bid deadline of 8th October 2020
COLUMBUS, 12th October 2020
MAGELLAN, 19th October 2020
ASTOR, 15th October 2020
MARCO POLO, 22nd October 2020
Further details here: https://eggarforresterships.com/auctions
Krispen
I just noticed that all of the links and listings of the auction do not have the Astoria (ex. Stockholm) listed, despite also sailing with CMV around the time they entered administration. That means the vessel has already been sold.
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No it doesn't. It reminds us that she is under Portuguese ownership. CMV's charter of her was due to end this year in any event.
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No it doesn't. It reminds us that she is under Portuguese ownership. CMV's charter of her was due to end this year in any event.
Portuscale Cruises did charter the Astoria to CMV, but Portuscale Cruises no longer have any vessels sailing for her as the last vessels she had have either been laid up or chartered to other cruise lines. It's possible that the Astoria has already been sold or charged to another cruise line shortly before they announced the auction dates.
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As Clive said, ASTORIA hasn't been owned by CMV and so is nothing to do with the auction of assets. Of course, the owners (Islands Cruises Transportes Mar
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There is something that I find rather puzzling about the ownership of the former CMV fleet, and hopefully someone with sound real knowledge, like Bob Scott, can shed some light.
Mu understanding was that, with the exception of Astoria, the fleet was owned by Global Marine out of Greece. They set up CMV, and this was their shop front that was presented to the punters. So CMV could not raise any money to pay their debts, which included carter costs and wages, but as they (CMV) had no real assets.
So my questions are:
1/ Why did Global Marine let them go under, after all they would still not get paid their charter fees, why not continue to pay the bills until this Covid thing is all over. After all Global still have all their costs to pay, with the exception of wages.
2/ Why has the court seized the ships and are now auctioning them off if Global do indeed own the ships. How can they be assets of CMV if CMV do not own them.
I have worked in the shipping operations all my life and so I do have an idea how it all works, but I can't figure this one out.
Love to hear some sound ideas on this. (IE; not nonsense speculation)
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There is something that I find rather puzzling about the ownership of the former CMV fleet, and hopefully someone with sound real knowledge, like Bob Scott, can shed some light.
Mu understanding was that, with the exception of Astoria, the fleet was owned by Global Marine out of Greece. They set up CMV, and this was their shop front that was presented to the punters. So CMV could not raise any money to pay their debts, which included carter costs and wages, but as they (CMV) had no real assets.
So my questions are:
1/ Why did Global Marine let them go under, after all they would still not get paid their charter fees, why not continue to pay the bills until this Covid thing is all over. After all Global still have all their costs to pay, with the exception of wages.
2/ Why has the court seized the ships and are now auctioning them off if Global do indeed own the ships. How can they be assets of CMV if CMV do not own them.
I have worked in the shipping operations all my life and so I do have an idea how it all works, but I can't figure this one out.
Love to hear some sound ideas on this. (IE; not nonsense speculation)
Cruise & Maritime Voyages (CMV) and TransOcean Tours are both owned by Global Marine. Global Marine also owned the vessels (except the Astoria, which is owned by the portuguese Portuscale Cruises) and so the fleet of CMV and TransOcean are also part of the Global Marine fleet. When Global Marine went bankrupt, CMV and TransOcean also went bankrupt as they are owned by Global Marine, which is why the vessels were seized by the British government.
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Let's hope Bahamas Paradise Cruise Line buys the Magellan (ex. Holiday) on October 19.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/former-carnival-cruise-ship-auction.amp
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Vasco Da Gama is to be sold tommorow.
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No news yet who has bought her but I've heard that Phoenix Reisen has sold Albatros and that she will become an hotel ship.
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No news yet who has bought her but I've heard that Phoenix Reisen has sold Albatros and that she will become an hotel ship.
Found the link for the Albatros being sold. Apparently, she is being sold to become a hotel ship. I suspect whoever bought her is the same one that bought her sisters former Fred Olsen vessels Black Watch and Boudicca. Here is the link.
https://www.schiffe-und-kreuzfahrten.de/news/phoenix-reisen-hat-ms-albatros-abgegeben-die-weisse-lady-verabschiedet-sich/210521/
Since the Vasco Da Gama has been sold, four remain. Here are the dates for sale.
COLUMBUS, 12th October 2020
MAGELLAN, 19th October 2020
ASTOR, 15th October 2020
MARCO POLO, 22nd October 2020
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It is an Egyptian hotel chain that has bought Albatros.
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It is an Egyptian hotel chain that has bought Albatros.
Oh, ok. Here's a english link about the Albatros being sold.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23643-another-cruise-ship-sold-albatros-to-leave-phoenix-reisen.html
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Columbus is to be sold today, which will leave three remain. Here are the dates for sale.
ASTOR, 15th October 2020
MAGELLAN, 19th October 2020
MARCO POLO, 22nd October 2020
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It has been confirmed that the buyer of Vasco Da Gama is a Portuguese river and expedition cruise operator, Mystic Invest. They claim their intention is to deploy the ship either in the UK or German cruise market. This of course is how CMV employed the ship, though mainly in the German market. So I'm wondering if we are not beginning to see the revival of CMV.
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Astor is to be sold in two days. Also, any discussion on Phoenix Reisen's Albatros is to be done in the topic I have linked instead. http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17027.0.html
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any discussion on Phoenix Reisen's Albatros is to be done in the topic I have linked instead. http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17027.0.html
SAYS WHO?
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Can I suggest that a new topic will be started titled : CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CRUISE INDUSTRY? which will include all the previous posts on the different companies that are closing down and ships that are being sold for scrap?
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Excellent idea. Someone talking sense at last. There is someone on here who probably should set up their own Cruise Industry blog. ::)
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pieter, agree with Stephen makes a lot of sense. Comments seem to be all over the place at the moment.
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There's some news. Apparently, the Columbus has been sold to a Turkish company for around 7 million. The new owner has not been named, but people suspect it's Miray International, since they also bought Fred Olsen's Black Watch and Boudicca.
However, the 'anonymous' turkish owner said that they would not operate the vessel, which means they're going to either resell it or scrap it. If they do scrap the vessel, it would be disappointing as she is the last vessel to sail for Sitmar Cruises (albeit briefly) that's still around. Here is the link to the article: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23685-columbus-sold-ship-to-stay-in-limbo-status.html
Also, the Astor is to be sold today.
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Just a small point. Whilst the ship did indeed carry the name Sitmar FairMajesty she never sailed as such. Before she was completed P&O acquired Princess Cruises and Sitmar FairMajesty became a Princess Cruises vessel upon her entry into service, Sitmar having been wiped from existence by P&O - to their shame.
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The Magellan is to be sold today. I hope someone does buy her for cruising because otherwise she will join her younger and bigger sisters in Aliaga. Maybe she could join her sister in Bahamas? Who knows? We just have to wait. This leaves the Marco Polo left to be sold 22nd October 2020.
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Astoria due to move from Tilbury dock to Northfleet Terminal tomorrow morning possibly to prepare for tow to Portugal. Tug Monte Da Luz arrived this morning.
No departure date/time yet.
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Hi all,
as TRADEWINDS reports today, MAGELLAN an COLUMBUS are sold to SEAJETS of Greece.
Further plans for the ships are not known.
Greetings from Hamburg
Jan
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Marco Polo has been sold yesterday October 22. Now all the CMV and TransOcean vessels have been sold off.
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ASTOR has been sold for demolition: http://www.cruiseharbournews.com/astorscrap.html
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ASTOR has been sold for demolition: http://www.cruiseharbournews.com/astorscrap.html
This seems like a sad ending for the 1987 Astor(II)(ex. Fedor Dostoevskiy). She was sold for scrap for only 1.7 million euros, thats around 2 million US dollars! She had been uppdated and refurbished in the past, but it seems no one wanted her. She is still laid up at Tilbury, but will sail to Aliaga soon. This will leave her older sister Pearl II left. The 1981 built Pearl II (ex. Astor(I), Arokna, Astoria) is the same design as her sister the 1987 built Astor and have gone through similar upgrades, especially when both sailed for TransOcean. She may also be sold for scrap too! Another vessels bites the dust.
In other news, Vasco Da Gama has been bought by Mystic Cruises while Columbus and Magellan were bought by SeaJets. The buyer for Marco Polo has not been announced.
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Hi! Everybody, I am now quite disappointed at ASTOR going for scrap. My late wife and I did six cruises on Astor here in Australia and she would have been the finest ship in their fleet. Very sad. Vale Astor.
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The Astor will be heading to Aliaga soon.
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Astoria due to move from Tilbury dock to Northfleet Terminal tomorrow morning possibly to prepare for tow to Portugal. Tug Monte Da Luz arrived this morning.
No departure date/time yet.
ASTORIA left last night in tow of tug Monte Da Luz for Portugal but returned to Tower Wharf shortly after. From facebook, she was assisted by two local tugs departing, two more were called and she was returned to her berth by four local tugs and the Monte Da Luz. No further information.
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Looking at the track of MONTE DA LUZ, it looks as if they were having trouble controlling the tow.
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The Astor will be heading to Aliaga soon.
Scheduled to leave Tilbury tonight @ 22.30 for Aliaga (PLA movements)
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It really is a pity that ASTOR is going for scrap. Certainly considering the fact that her older half-sister will now outlive her while the 1987 ASTOR always seemed to me to be the nicer one of the two ships (and also well looked after for many years).
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The Astor will be heading to Aliaga soon.
Scheduled to leave Tilbury tonight @ 22.30 for Aliaga (PLA movements)
Now showing 09.15 tomorrow (7th Nov)
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The Astor will be heading to Aliaga soon.
Scheduled to leave Tilbury tonight @ 22.30 for Aliaga (PLA movements)
Now showing 09.15 tomorrow (7th Nov)
And she's on her way
https://www.facebook.com/jason.arthur.10/videos/10158546860730865
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ASTORIA left last night in tow of tug Monte Da Luz for Portugal but returned to Tower Wharf shortly after. From facebook, she was assisted by two local tugs departing, two more were called and she was returned to her berth by four local tugs and the Monte Da Luz. No further information.
Looking at the track of MONTE DA LUZ, it looks as if they were having trouble controlling the tow.
Reported that it was MONTE DA LUZ that developed mechanical problems. Meanwhile ASTORIA now moved to disused berth a little downstream to free Tower Wharf for cargo operations.
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Northfleet terminal is not a disused wharf. The reason Astoria was shifted to Tower Wharf was to allow a ship to berth there! The tug has returned to Portugal as local sources inform me she was not powerful enough for the job. Astor did sail yesterday - giving ETA Aliaga 17th.
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Sorry if I misnamed the Northfleet Terminal - what was it called before (Deepwater Jetty now rings a bell). So Tower Wharf is the one just downstream of Bevans, it seems.
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ASTORIA left last night in tow of tug Monte Da Luz for Portugal but returned to Tower Wharf shortly after. From facebook, she was assisted by two local tugs departing, two more were called and she was returned to her berth by four local tugs and the Monte Da Luz. No further information.
Looking at the track of MONTE DA LUZ, it looks as if they were having trouble controlling the tow.
Reported that it was MONTE DA LUZ that developed mechanical problems. Meanwhile ASTORIA now moved to disused berth a little downstream to free Tower Wharf for cargo operations.
Suggestion on Facebook seems to say the MONTE DA LUZ was not powerful enough and she left this morning returning to Portugal.
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ASTOR taking bunkers in the Thames Estuary from tanker FREDERICIA before continuing her journey to Aliaga.
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Tower Wharf is upriver from Bevan's Wharf and Northfleet Terminal (formerly known as Bowaters) is downriver from Bevan's.
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So the total sale of the entire CMV/TransOcean fleet is the equivalent of $23,419,000. Unfortunately, the Marco Polo (ex. Alexander Pushkin) was also sold for scrap to Aliaga, so she and Astor will end their useful service in Turkey. Here is the link:
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23829-here-s-what-an-entire-cruise-fleet-sold-for-at-auction.html
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MAGELLAN scheduled to sail from Tilbury at 18.30 today bound Piraeus.
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Columbus sailed last night following Magellan to Piraeus via Gibraltar.
Astoria still waiting for a weather window to be towed to Portugal, tug Brent moored on the river to take her.
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MARCO POLO sailed from lay-up at Avonmouth yesterday 19 November for Falmouth Bay to take bunkers
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VASCO DA GAMA scheduled to leave Tilbury at 03.45 tomorrow (21st), destination unknown.
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ASTORIA and her tug, BRENT, are now confirming destination Lisbon, ETD 22/11, 2200hrs - very inconsiderate
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VASCO DA GAMA destination is Lisbon. ETA 26 November 08:00
Ship will change register from Bahamas to Madeira (Portuguese flag) while in Lisbon. Moves to the Lisnave shipyard at Setubal in January 2021 for refit
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ASTORIA and her tug, BRENT, are now confirming destination Lisbon, ETD 22/11, 2200hrs - very inconsiderate
All CMV vessels have so far sailed from layup in darkness, even Marco Polo from Avonmouth although she's in Falmouth now for bunkers.
There are some photos/videos on the "Gravesend & Tilbury - "Gateway to the Port of London"" facebook page of all the sailings, not bad considering the time.
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MARCO POLO departed from UK (Falmouth Bay) at 2030 tonight after taking bunkers from Portland based DESERT OAK
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I hope someone does buy and save the Astoria as she is both a old famous ship (Built as Stockholm in 1948, collision with Andrea Doria in 1956) and the last Swedish American Line still existing (since the scrapping of the 1965 Kungsholm in 2016).
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ASTORIA
Looks like she doesn't want to go .... After leaving around seven this morning she's now inbound again.
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Astor beached today at 13.30 hrs at Aliaga
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MARCO POLO showing destination Dubai when she left here (Falmouth) last night (22nd). So....not heading to Aliaga after all. Maybe onward to a breaker's yard further east? Alang, Chittagong maybe?
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Footage of Astor being beached in Aliaga. https://www.instagram.com/p/CH8dJR-pZGv/?igshid=1nfaaoiqtn0vn
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Here's a article that is talking about Astor. https://cruiseradio.net/cruise-ship-beached-at-turkish-scrapyard-video/amp/
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Apparently, the Marco Polo is laid up in Dubai, UAE and is being chartered by whoever bought her. If someone does charter her for more cruising or to become a floating hotel, than she could still be saved. If noone charters her within a month, she will head to Alang, India to be scrapped.
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BRENT/ASTORIA will have another go - pilot booked 1100 on Sunday 29/11 per PLA
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now rescheduled 1100 on 1 December.
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Is there a reason why Astoria isn't sailing to Lisbon under her own power?
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Photos of Astor in Aliaga. https://www.instagram.com/p/CICmTyqgvi-/?igshid=kyr4hz8uuq3y
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Astoria still waiting for a weather window and Brent still waiting to take her.
2nd December 2020
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Is there a reason why Astoria isn't sailing to Lisbon under her own power?
Some Facebook pages suggest steering problems, others suggest towing gear problems.
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I see Astoria is on her way again with a large entourage of tugs.
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I see Astoria is on her way again with a large entourage of tugs.
Made it into the Channel now and still going in the right direction :)
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Now with just one tug (BRENT) off Beachy Head. ASTORIA seems to have switched off AIS
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Now with just one tug (BRENT) off Beachy Head. ASTORIA seems to have switched off AIS
But her ghost doesn't want to go :)
When they turned off her AIS once out of the Thames.
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AIS now gives BRENT's destination as Brest, France
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BRENT with ASTORIA changed course off Guernsey overnight and now expected at Portland (UK) later today
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Destination now Falmouth, according to AIS
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Brent and Astoria made an attempt to enter Falmouth today, with help from local tugs, but abandoned and Brent now showing as heading back out into Channel. Pic posted on main website. :-\ ???
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BRENT (presumably still with ASTORIA), continues in the Channel on heading due east at a respectable 8kn and now S of Swanage; destination "TBA". All very strange.
[later] TBA now changed to Flushing/Vlissingen - ETA seven hours ago.
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and BRENT/ASTORIA now destined for Rotterdam, ETA 12/12 1100L
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Tug GINGER left the Thames last night to assist
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Maybe while in Rotterdam (if she does indeed get there) it would make sense to repair ASTORIA so that the can sail under her own power. Has anyone seen a reliable, non-speculative report as to why she had to be towed in the first place? The only report I have seen is that the engines were "knackered". That's a bit too technical for me!(LOL)
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Was there any indication before the first lockdown that Astoria's engines were 'knackered'? I'd not heard anything to that effect.
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ASTORIA arrived at Tilbury under her own power to lay up in March
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Good Morning,
MAGELLAN is now underway to Port Said; COLUMBUS is going to PIraeus.
Greetings from Hamburg
Jan
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Hi,
Can anybody confirm where ASTORIA is?
Tugs Brent and GINGER are at Rotterdam Anchorage. Are they still assisting her?
Rgds
Nigel T
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https://webcam-hoekvanholland.nl/pages/cameras/waterweg-hvh.php right now
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Type in Astoria, Brent or Ginger and you get the information!
https://www.portofrotterdam.com/en/shipping/operational-information/nautical-information/arrivals-and-departures-of-vessels
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Astoria passing the Hook of Holland
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Now berthing in the Waalhaven
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MARCO POLO passed Hormuz Strait this morning - now c100m N of Dubai, still heading westward at 9kn.
MARCO POLO showing destination Dubai when she left here (Falmouth) last night (22nd). So....not heading to Aliaga after all. Maybe onward to a breaker's yard further east? Alang, Chittagong maybe?
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MARCO POLO passed Hormuz Strait this morning - now c100m N of Dubai, still heading westward at 9kn.
So....not heading to Aliaga after all. Maybe onward to a breaker's yard further east? Alang, Chittagong maybe?
Likely Alang, Because it's the closest and because Marco Polo's sister ships Ivan Franko, Tara, and Assedo were also scrapped in Alang, India in 1997, 2005, and 2003 respectively. Combine that with the fact she was a former Soviet ocean liner and issues between the West and Russia, it seems it was inevitable.
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MARCO POLO passed Hormuz Strait this morning - now c100m N of Dubai, still heading westward at 9kn.
So....not heading to Aliaga after all. Maybe onward to a breaker's yard further east? Alang, Chittagong maybe?
Likely Alang, Because it's the closest and because Marco Polo's sister ships Ivan Franko, Tara, and Assedo were also scrapped in Alang, India in 1997, 2005, and 2003 respectively. Combine that with the fact she was a former Soviet ocean liner and issues between the West and Russia, it seems it was inevitable.
I really don't understand what you are saying here. The fact that she was built for Soviet Russia in 1965 should have no bearing what so ever on where she might be scrapped. She has after all been owned and operated by western European owners for longer than she was under Soviet ownership.
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MAGELLAN heading for Suez? Also to the scrapyard?
When CMV ended trading, they sent the customers an emotional email: "we will be back".
I understand that the director did buy the booking system and customer data.
Any news about a possible restart after the corona/covid-period?
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MARCO POLO circling gently near Abu Musa island, north of Dubai. Perhaps pre-scrapping formalities, but these normally take place near demolition yards - so perhaps is going to Dubai as indicated? Manager since last month "International Maritime Service Ltd, Fremantle, Australia"
MAGELLAN changed owner 10/2020 to Wanda Services Ltd - manager Eaglepower Shipping Co, Limassol (who also manage COLUMBUS for new owner Okoye Trading Ltd). Eaglepower is a Seajets company.
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Vasco Da Gama is in Libson, Portugal. See http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17096.0.html for more info. I don't know what Mystic Invest plans to do with her, but they should either bring her back to service or sell her to Seajets so she can rejoin her sister vessels.
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Mystic have already indicated they plan to return her to cruise service for the UK and German markets.
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Update from Aliaga, Turkey. Astor's bow is now gone. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJKskLZrE44/?igshid=ktg2rk4svmvt
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MARCO POLO is now showing destination Alang, India, ETA 09.01.2021... (source MarineTraffic)
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MARCO POLO is now showing destination Alang, India, ETA 09.01.2021... (source MarineTraffic)
Well, it's the end of the Ivan Franko-class.
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Yep, Marco Polo is indeed going to Alang, India. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24136-it-s-official-the-marco-polo-is-getting-scrapped.html
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Marco Polo has arrived in Alang, India. It's the end of the Ivan-Franko class. Here is the link: https://www.instagram.com/p/CKBPd1YH5Yg/?igshid=1j58uq695elhr
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Magellan popped back up on AIS showing a shortened name of Mages and flagged to Comoros. Waiting off Oman, looks like the ol' Holiday may end up next to her sister before long.
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See here https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24214-was-the-magellan-sold-for-scrap.html?fbclid=IwAR2hClblIoNhhR7gp_3I6EqEHV7_iIuzSOJ_qKENA725jeWZaKD3K8ddBYg
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See here https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24214-was-the-magellan-sold-for-scrap.html?fbclid=IwAR2hClblIoNhhR7gp_3I6EqEHV7_iIuzSOJ_qKENA725jeWZaKD3K8ddBYg
I was about to report the same thing, but yeah the Magellan has been sold for scrap in Alang, India and will join her sister ship Grand Celebration and fleet mate Marco Polo.
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Magellan is close to Alang.
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Vasco Da Gama is in Libson, Portugal. See http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17096.0.html for more info. I don't know what Mystic Invest plans to do with her, but they should either bring her back to service or sell her to Seajets so she can rejoin her sister vessels.
Vasco Da Gama is presently in the Lisnave shipyards undergoing refitting work, amongst other things, her cabins are being modernised. A lot of upgrades to the technical aspects of the ship are also being undertaken. Apparently, Mystic Cruises are looking for another ship to operate along with Vasco Da Gama. One thing is for sure, there is plenty of choice out there.
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Vasco Da Gama is presently in the Lisnave shipyards undergoing refitting work, amongst other things, her cabins are being modernised. A lot of upgrades to the technical aspects of the ship are also being undertaken. Apparently, Mystic Cruises are looking for another ship to operate along with Vasco Da Gama. One thing is for sure, there is plenty of choice out there.
SeaJets has her other sister ships so Mystic Cruises could buy a sister ship from them and refit her like Vasco Da Gama.
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Vasco da Gama is chartered by German firm Nicko Cruises and cruises with her can already be booked on the Nicko Cruises website for spring this year. Departures from Bremerhaven, Hamburg and Kiel during spring and summer 2021, later this year stationed at the Canary islands.
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Magellan repositioned for beaching as of 16:37 GMT today and AIS now reading "Goodbye Forever". Sad
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Magellan repositioned for beaching as of 16:37 GMT today and AIS now reading "Goodbye Forever". Sad
She's beached not that far from her sister Grand Celebration.
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Mages is not Beached , only arrived Alang Anchorage 28.01.21
Last Position 29.01.21 10.33 o`Clock Alang Anchorage
Best Regards Bernd
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Astor's funnel has been removed. Removal started on January 23 https://youtu.be/mvfM4Nut_bk
Now today on January 29, her funnel removal is now complete. https://www.instagram.com/p/ckoqkoipu5f/?igshid=154j27osevt9d
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The Magellan has been beached in Alang, India. https://www.cruisehive.com/another-holiday-class-cruise-ship-is-beached-for-scrapping/46582
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MAGELLAN and MARCO POLO die together, rather close on the beach at Alang. Farewell, two great ladies. Did three cruises in MAGELLAN and one in MARCO POLO (and another one cancelled due to covid). End of an era. What is left apart from those floating apartment buildings? Fred Olsen in the UK and Phoenix in Germany. Photo credit for both photos: Viramdevsinh Gohil.
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MAGELLAN and MARCO POLO die together, rather close on the beach at Alang. Farewell, two great ladies. Did three cruises in MAGELLAN and one in MARCO POLO (and another one cancelled due to covid). End of an era. What is left apart from those floating apartment buildings? Fred Olsen in the UK and Phoenix in Germany. Photo credit for both photos: Viramdevsinh Gohil.
Not to mention that Magellan is also to be scrapped with her sister Grand Celebration.
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SeaJets may have resold Columbus to Aliaga for scrap. It's based on sources close to SeaJets and the fact that Columbus is departing Greece Today. Here is the link: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24336-columbus-next-cruise-ship-most-likely-to-be-scrapped.html
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SeaJets may have resold Columbus to Aliaga for scrap. It's based on sources close to SeaJets and the fact that Columbus is departing Greece Today. Here is the link: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24336-columbus-next-cruise-ship-most-likely-to-be-scrapped.html
Note that if they do scrap the Columbus, it will be the end of the last purpose-built Sitmar Cruises vessels as she and the twins Karnika and Satoshi were the last vessels being built for Sitmar Cruises before Princess cruises bought them. Karnika and Satoshi have already been sold for scrap.
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Columbus has returned to Piraeus, Greece
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She hasn't returned, because she never left - your earlier news source was wrong. She's been quietly swinging on her anchors or a buoy for several weeks in Eleusis Bay.
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Astoria to be auctioned http://crew-center.com/worlds-oldest-cruise-ship-be-auctioned-10-million-euros?fbclid=IwAR2Dd8_hkfd62zcnl9K-BGF7AFCDr5cK2oqqO-aKaDuQb4bIiFeGgKVF36c
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Astoria to be auctioned http://crew-center.com/worlds-oldest-cruise-ship-be-auctioned-10-million-euros?fbclid=IwAR2Dd8_hkfd62zcnl9K-BGF7AFCDr5cK2oqqO-aKaDuQb4bIiFeGgKVF36c
Last of the CMV vessels to be sold.
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COLUMBUS is now heading for Port Said so it seems like she will end up at Alang and not Aliaga.
Status on Equasis is now "To Be Broken Up"
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COLUMBUS is now heading for Port Said so it seems like she will end up at Alang and not Aliaga.
Status on Equasis is now "To Be Broken Up"
That means she'll be broken up near her sister ships and former fleetmates.
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Columbus has crossed the Suez canal and is sailing to Alang.
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Update from Aliaga, Astor is reduced to her keel. https://youtu.be/69tyxhA5APE
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And Columbus now appears to be at anchor off the Omani coast. Waiting for a vacant slot at Alang ? And interesting that she's been squawking "Armed Guards Onboard" on AIS since leaving Suez - would have thought that a vessel with a skeleton crew onboard and heading for the knacker's yard would represent a bit of a low value target for the hijackers
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Columbus is still in Oman. She's waiting to sail to Alang.
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Update from Alang, Marco Polo's bow has been cut off. https://www.instagram.com/p/CM3NvHrBmyl/?igshid=ddhkky2mzjev
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According to Fleetmon, COLUMBUS is now close to Alang under the name COLUS.
Sad, very sad, did four great cruises in her.
About Satoshi: CMV advertised her for 2021 as Amy Johnson, last change for a restart of CMV, but money, money, money......
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Update from Alang, more of Marco Polo's bow is gone. Ironically, Magellan looks untouched. https://www.instagram.com/p/CNDFjGaHAwD/?igshid=1b8bvq9wpbwgj
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Colus. comoros. ex Columbus waiting off Alang.
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Not Beached, at Alang Anchorage
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Update from Alang, Columbus is waiting to be beached. https://www.instagram.com/p/CNTHIlwHUYY/?igshid=cyyzeaxxw7lq
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Colus. ex Columbus. Beached 12/04/21. source Marinetraffic.com
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Update from Aliaga, Astor is now gone. Her keel has been scrapped. She is now only a memory.
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Update from Alang, Magellan's scrapping has begun. https://www.instagram.com/p/CQgiBm_hgFH/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Update from Aliaga, Marco Polo's funnel is now gone. https://www.instagram.com/p/CReUVgasqzA/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Update from Alang, Columbus's bow is gone: https://www.instagram.com/p/CSalGGXrLPv/?utm_medium=copy_link