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Title: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on September 13, 2010, 01:43:40 PM
Hi there,
Next weekend we want to head up to Antwerpen for a bit of shipspotting. I found some hints here in the forum for the best places but the thread is already two years old. It was written the best places to come closest to the ships are: Waalsorden and Ternuezen. Are there any other places anybody could advise? Are there any places where you can park a RV (small) with view over the water ( best of course closest to the shipping route :-D  ;-) )
Is it possible to drive directly into the harbour of Antwerpen or are there any custom regulations?  We are most interested in big container ships and car carriers.
Thanks for your help!

Galadriel
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Fred Vloo on September 13, 2010, 02:07:10 PM
Terneuzen:
http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=walsoorden&sll=52.22399,5.170999&sspn=0.300325,0.477219&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Walsoorden,+Hulst,+Zeeland&ll=51.343561,3.809209&spn=0.002393,0.003728&t=h&z=18

Copy complete link into your webbrouwser.
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Fred Vloo on September 13, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=walsoorden&sll=51.343561,3.809209&sspn=0.002393,0.003728&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Walsoorden,+Hulst,+Zeeland&ll=51.381707,4.035429&spn=0.001195,0.001864&t=h&z=19

Cheers Fred
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on September 13, 2010, 03:53:50 PM
I have been there two weaks ago,
At the locks in Antwerp you can park your car and shipspotting
In the morning hours you can stay at Riland close to Antwerp or go to Terneuzen,
Walsoorden is the best place you can also stay in your car but go to walsoorden around 14.00 until it get dark with the sun you can fantastic pics
If you want a special ship just watch the pilot list at www.loodswezen.be.
There you can decide if you want to Antwerp or Terneuzen both places you can shipspot from your car
For Antwerp contact Stevo  www.stevo.be .
He knows the best places around Antwerp.

Regards,

dave
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: stevo on September 13, 2010, 08:32:55 PM
Hey Galadriel,

As from tomorrow I will be in holiday, so I will try to help you.
A good place in Antwerp harbour is at the Berendrechtlocks.

http://maps.google.be/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=berendrechtsluis&sll=50.805935,4.432983&sspn=5.172883,14.27124&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Berendrechtsluis&z=15

both sides of the lock have their charmes. Please note when an MSC is entering the lock 60% an MSC is leaving Antwerp.

Another good place (driving 15 km) is bath if you take the "Grensweg"

http://maps.google.be/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=bath&sll=51.377339,4.248587&sspn=0.004989,0.013937&ie=UTF8&hq=bath&hnear=&ll=51.390101,4.229221&spn=0.038563,0.111494&z=14

Walsoorden and Terneuzen are also ok. Best place of all is Terneuzen because then you see vessels passing by to Antwerp/Gent.
You can park your car their also.Search for the 'Nieuw Neuzenweg"

http://maps.google.be/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=terneuzen&sll=51.390101,4.229221&sspn=0.038563,0.111494&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Terneuzen,+Zeeland,+Nederland&ll=51.343112,3.804713&spn=0.004993,0.013937&z=17
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on September 14, 2010, 07:07:50 AM
Good morning everybody,
Thank you so much for your help! I marked all the places down in my MapPoint and we will go there at the described times with the best lights to get some good shots.
We just moved our trip up to  two weekends later. I think we can put one or two days more at the weekend than.
I have got another question. We have been to Rotterdam two weeks ago and we stood at the Hoek van Holland at the Konigin Emma Boulevard. The place was nice so far as we could sit in front of the RV with our cameras directly by the water and we took some nice shots of some bulkers and smaller Containerships and made some lovely nightshots with big ships in the sunset.
But unluckily the Europort is just too far away there :-(  :-(  and the ( for us) really interesting big ships are not coming along  that part of the harbour where we stood. Is there a better place closer to the Europort where you coming closer to the big ships? We were not sure if we could drive onto the other site of the Canal.
Thanks again and have a nice day! And to Stevo : Enjoy your holidays!
Galadriel
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Gerolf Drebes on September 14, 2010, 04:10:06 PM
Hi Galadriel,
I go to Antwerp every year since 1988.
In addition to the informations of the others I go as well with the car through the port despite the fact that more and more of the locks are closed now (in 1988 everything was open except on container berth).  But I think about 50% of the ship in the port are "drivable". Some of the Schelde container berth you can see from the road (at Barentdrechtlock and at Lillo).
Anyway I wish you good luck and nice shipspotting.
Gerolf
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on September 14, 2010, 04:25:56 PM
Hi,

About Rotterdam
If you go to Maassluis take the ferrie to Rozenburg in 5 min you reach the Calantcanaal
If you want to make pictures of the tankers do it in the morning, best sunlight on the tankers,
Than you can go to the Landtong just the end of the the road there you can take pictures of the Bulkers (berthed at the eecv).best time also morning hours.
Then drive to the Maaslvlakte about 20 min drive from the Landtong.
At the maaslvlakte you can spot every vessels that passing on his way to Europoort or city terminals.
At the end of the day you can go to the containerterminal Amazoneharbour
Thats the place where all the containerships berthed the only problem are the bunkertankers.
You can stay at the Maasvlakte from 10.00 until it gets dark best sunlight.

Regards,

Dave
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on September 15, 2010, 10:08:36 AM
Thanks Gerolf, we will drive it, definetly!!! And thank you very much Dave for the Rotterdam Hints.I wrote all places down  in my map and as well the route over the ferry. Great that its possible to go over there.
Is the comming and going in the Europort depending on high and low tide or is the canal digged out deep enough that the big ships can move whenever they want?
We have been very lucky two weeks ago at the Hoek van Holland. We just arrived when the Edith Maersk was going out. (We like the Maersk ships as well..and its always a big event to see one of the big E
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Fred Vloo on September 15, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
hi Galadriel,
Go to the Markweg:
http://maps.google.nl/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hilversum,+Noord-Holland&ll=51.961199,4.093072&spn=0.005857,0.009667&t=h&z=17
(copy/paste the whole link into your browser)

At the end of the road you see a little roundabout, there you find a small road to the right. It is allowed to enter, on the left you can see the pilottenders berth, go to the end, to the  left and to the right again. Here you have the best place to see the big boxships, coming towards you and turn into the Europahaven or pass to the Amazonehaven. Also the big bulkers for the Mississippihaven pass here and the big tankers for the 8th petroleumharbour. The Beerkanaal has a depth of 23 metres. Only the biggest ships with a draft of 20+ metres come in with high tide. Be sure to visit this place.
Have fun
Fred
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on September 15, 2010, 03:53:47 PM
Only the big Tankers and Bulkers are depending on the tide,
But in morning hours in the Calantcanaal you can see the VLCC berthed you can take some good pics
example
http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/1095679_800/Ship+Photo+FRONT+CHAMPION.jpg
This picture is taken in the Calandcanaal

Mostly when you are at the Maasvlakte you can see the yellow pilot helicopter then you know that a big one will come
About E class they are not depending on the tide
The schedule is now Arrive at Thursday around 9.00 and 10.00
And on Friday the E class will leave again around 11.00
Only watch the schedule good because there are two vessels in the same route as the E class in 9 weaks we have 7 Eclass and Maersk Algol and Gjertrud Maersk if you want to see the E class watch the Maersk website,

Regards,

Dave
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on September 24, 2010, 10:07:49 AM
Hello back,
Have been some days on the road, just came back.
Thank you another time Dave and Fred. The places I marked down in my MapPoint and Navisystem. And the hint with the Maersk Website is great. Never thought to look there for the timetable of the big E
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on October 11, 2010, 06:21:24 PM
Hi guys,

Just back from my trip to Rotterdam.
I have to thank you a lot..... This harbor is just fantastic! Could spend weeks there!!!!
I  spent two full days in the Europort. I took the ferry to Rozenburg and found all places which you were advising. And we had a great time watching the Vessels getting in and out and moving and getting loaded up at the different harbors.
The full automated system in the Amazon harbor was very, very  interesting to watch. ( Just got a stiff neck from viewing trough the binoculars  over the Bunker Tankers berthed on my side of the harbor ;-)
I have never seen this full automated bridges before.
I have been on the Bus tour in the Bremerhaven Container Terminal lately  but they still using  the van carriers there.

One afternoon we spend at the Maasvlakte viewing point, seeing all the ships coming in and going out.  At Thursday morning we spend the whole morning at the end of the Markweg...(my favorite Place)
Parked the Camper directly under the Radar Station beside of the Pilots. Wasn
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on October 11, 2010, 06:44:39 PM
Hi,

When there is no wind the E class will come with out tugboats,
The same for the Anna Maersk or other Maersk vessels,
I think i have seen you two at the Markweg
I was there also hunting the Emma Maers.

Regards
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Fred Vloo on October 11, 2010, 06:52:40 PM
Hi Galadriel,
Good to hear you had a nice time. Did not know you were interested in automated container handling. Next time I will show you another very nice lokation to watch this process.
Emma Mearsk and her sisters only enter without tugs if the weather permits.
Cheers Fred
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on October 11, 2010, 07:05:13 PM
Yes there was no wind that day! The morning started horrible foggy and with total grey skys and I got a messagge from Marine Traffic that Emma was coming earlier. Was alreaddy horrified about the light conditions but when she arrived it was blue sky and even some nice clouds appearing just in the right moment.
Dave?
Where have you been? Why was you not coming along for a coffee? I thought that one of you might pop up there but I wasn
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on October 11, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
Hello Fred,
We are very interested in this Container Logistic Technik... Its sooo incredible how this all works.
When you have got another hint for me where to go I would be very pleased.
I think we will come up another time in around four weeks. This time was an exeption because I did a Netherlands roundtrip with  my mum. And I was very pleased as she liked the shipspotting and I could convince her to stay until Thursday to see Emma coming.
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Fred Vloo on October 11, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
Hi Galadriel,
Were you at the entrance to the Nieuwe Waterweg? on Slag Maasmond?
Before you enter the strip alongside the water you are on the Europaweg, don't make that last left turn but go another 100mtrs and take a right turn. Go all the way to the Yangze haven and you can watch the Euromax (not on Google maps yet) container terminal en see this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJnHFNGSyPo  starting at 4:20 with the container handling.
Cheers Fred
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on October 11, 2010, 07:38:46 PM
Hi Galadriel,

When Emma was turning into the Beercanaal i was driving to the road i stopped next to the camper (bleu/green volkswagen).
I saw 2 people at the end of the road one with a camera,
I didn't know that you where also there.

Regards
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on October 11, 2010, 08:02:24 PM
Hi Fred,
Just looked on some photos which I took. I think we have been on the viewing spot after Slag Maasmond, closer to the Entry of the Nieuwe Waterweg.  

And I think I have been at the Yangze Haven. ( Its all so big and without Navigation System I would have been completly lost..)  I looked onto the Euromax container terminal.  On my side there have been tankers, that was a bit uncomtable as I had to look over them with my binoculars.
There was a Hanjin and a Cosco Vessel at that time. I think, this is what you meant?

From the Markweg I could not see too much of Boxhandling as only the Maersk Terminal was in use when we have been there on Wednesday. The grey terminal in front of it was not busy at that time. But its buildings covering the Maersk Terminal!
Your film is great!
Ciao Galadriel
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on October 11, 2010, 08:09:33 PM
Yes, I  can remember that car I was not sure if you wanted to come up the road with the car and thought my chairs might be in the way of your car.
But you was than fast gone again!
Well next time you`ll get the promised cup of coffee!!!!
Did you get some nice shotss at least?
Ciao Galdriel
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Fred Vloo on October 11, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
Hi Galadriel.
The spot I mean is about 50 meters away from the first large Gantrycrane on the Euromax terminal and can't be blocked by tankers or whatever. There's only a 3 meter high fence that you can look through and close to this fence are some large pipes that you can climb on, that gives you an even better view. I cannot guarantee the pipes will be still there next time and even access to this road could be blocked next time.
ciao fred
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on October 12, 2010, 08:26:49 PM
Hi Galadriel,

No i always stays at that place
I had already taken some shots at the Maasvlakte and than drive verry fast to the Beercanaal to catch her again,
Only the little tug in the middle that was for me a problem.
But i had some nice shots of her
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on October 18, 2010, 12:20:36 PM
Hi guys,

Fred, I will definatly try to find that place with the pipes next time.
Dave,dont complain about that little tugboat... We have been sooo lucky. The whole morning before Emma arrived was a little digging boat ( I think it was a digger, it had a conveyer band at the end) digging direktly in the enter area of the harbour up and own, up and down. It would have been absolutely in the way for Photos. I was getting really anoyed about it and send some horrible curses at it, more horrible the later it got.( I know our mums taught us not to swear ;-)
And than luckily some minutes before Emma turned into the harbour that boat finally disapeared to the site....
So, it could have been much worse with our photos...!
I  put already some photos of Emma up here !
Ciao from Germany
Galadriel

Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Peter2532 on December 16, 2010, 04:37:37 PM
Hi All. I am new to this excellent site. I am hopeful to see the Emma Maersk, which according to the published schedule arrives at APM Terminal on 30 December at 11:00am and departs 31 December at 11:00am. Is Hoek Van Holland a good place to see the boat come in and out of the harbor? If the boat is scheduled to depart on 31 Dec at 11:00am, how long until it becomes visible from Hoek Van Holland? Is there a better suggestion? Best regards, Peter
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on December 19, 2010, 08:05:50 AM
Hi Peter,

When you read through this thread you will virtually find all the information you need for shipspotting around the Europort which is located directly opposite to the Hook van Holland.
Even the ferry transfer over to the port site is described.
Best you mark all points in Google maps or even better in your navisystem. The Europort is huge you can't find your way arounds when you don't have the spots marked before....
My favourite spot is the end of the Markweg, which is desribed in one of the answers above as well...there you can see Emma coming in and can follow her when she is going to the Maersk terminal.

We are already in Oberstdorf, have lovely snow here and  so I think we will not get there this time for the 30th.

Kind regards

galadriel

Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Peter2532 on December 21, 2010, 02:21:01 PM
Dear Galadriel:

Thank you so much for your reply and for the great advice. In your experience, do the big ships like Emma typically arrive and depart on schedule, or is it smart to allow for a few hours on either side of the schedule?

Also, in addition to Markweg, is Hoek van Holland a good point to watch Emma depart the harbour, or is it too far away?

Best regards,
Peter
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Galadriel on December 21, 2010, 05:32:17 PM
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   Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on December 21, 2010, 09:05:12 PM
Hi Peter,

Best way is go to the Maasvlakte or Markweg.
Hook van Holland is way to far to get a good picture
This expample from Hoek van Holland.\
http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/0/9/1/633190.jpg

Maasvlakte
http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/0/4/0/1205040.jpg
You can see Emma from along distance,

Markweg
http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/7/4/0/1205047.jpg

Mostly the schedule is correct,but the Eleonora Maersk is alread delayed
Coming in nighttimes and leave nighttimes,
Eleonora is coming 24 of december,
Good luck with your hunt

Best Regards,

Dave
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on December 23, 2010, 09:52:05 PM
The Schedule of the EMMA MAERSK has changed,

30 december arrive at 07.30
31 december leave at  09.00.

Best regards,

Dave
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: stevo on December 23, 2010, 11:20:08 PM
The Schedule of the EMMA MAERSK has changed,

30 december arrive at 07.30
31 december leave at  09.00.

Best regards,

Dave

Dave,

As per your previous message, what should be the best place to spot the Emma on departure??
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on December 24, 2010, 02:18:52 PM
Hi Stevo,

At te Maasvlakte

http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/8/9/3/1074398.jpg

http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/2/4/1/1075142.jpg

Markweg (Beerkanaal)

The E class will come much closer
Another picture Fred V
http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/8/2/3/632328.jpg

http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/6/3/3/632336.jpg

Check the schedule good for the timings for Emma,

Dave

Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on December 27, 2010, 09:54:20 PM
Emma again delayed,

Arrive 30 dec 19.30
Depart 31 dec 13.00

Regards,

Dave
Title: Re: Need Infomation for Shipspotting in Antwerpen
Post by: stevo on January 01, 2011, 09:40:00 AM
Was in Rotterdam but I turned back due to bad weather.
Please let me know when she comes back.

Emma again delayed,

Arrive 30 dec 19.30
Depart 31 dec 13.00

Regards,

Dave