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Scale Models / Re: BUGSIER 14

« on: April 13, 2015, 08:15:02 AM »

Hello

I suppose you took this pictures yourself with the camera in one hand and the RC on the other : on four pictures three are cut with missing part on forward or aft  ...

It's just a joke as myself I'm modeller and also with tugs. So I well know this problem

By the way, nice built, this kit was my dream when I was young.

Best regards

Xtian 

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Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Name of ship with apostrophe

« on: October 09, 2014, 06:19:09 PM »

Hello

Thank you for your answers, off course Frans it's a minor problem, looking to the Shipspotting black-out last week, I hope the team will first sort out the major things ! I'm so happy with Shipspotting coming back : thanks to all people involved

First thing is about LE - LA and L' for french ship name.  There is no real rule to add or not the prefix with the name.

But it's absolutly sure : on some ships the prefix is a real part of the ship name.  Written on the hull, on the paper, on the seaman hat ...  

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1200289

About L'Hermione the info coming from Wikipedia is wrong, and you have the same mistake for many ships when translated to English as people react as Ken : thinking  LA is for THE  

Have a look to English Wikipedia for the french nuclear submarine - all French SSBN have LE as part of the name

wikipedia in French  http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Triomphant_(sous-marin)

wikipedia in english with the mistake : no more Le http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Triomphant_(S616)

just for fun : Japanese are right http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BB%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3_(%E5%8E%9F%E5%AD%90%E5%8A%9B%E6%BD%9C%E6%B0%B4%E8%89%A6)

A part removed of the complete name is not satisfactory isn't ?

For LE and LA it's easy. Obviously some peope made mistake with removal of the prefix and ship pictures are lost on shipspotting as some when people made mistake with the name.

For the apostrophe may we have to made a "rule"  may be with a space after the L as here : it works

 http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=L+Hermione&x=25&y=2

or maybe with nothing like LHERMIONE on AIS : it works 

https://www.marinetraffic.com/fr/ais/details/ships/228052600/vessel:LHERMIONE?_=efc8bb7cce259b9a878c277bbef37dc6

David, I agree with you, and you know what, the next shio I will be aboard is the minesweeper L'Aigle

I've just read the last Ken message, yes I agree with you it coud be a good temporary solution with the space.   

Best regards

Xtian 

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Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Name of ship with apostrophe

« on: October 09, 2014, 02:53:42 PM »

Hello

Thanks Bj

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Site related news, functions and modules / Name of ship with apostrophe

« on: October 09, 2014, 01:24:42 PM »

Hello

There is a "new" french frigate replica named L'Hermione but the apostrophe is not so easy in English name.

Then for this ship there is actually minimum 3 ways to classified her on Shipspotting

This one is wrong as no L on the name - L is without doubt the first letter of her name - then for example on AIS she's LHERMIONE 

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=hermione+&x=27&y=8

That one is may be the solution with a space between L and H

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=L+Hermione&x=25&y=2

I've try myself the French way apostrophe and I don't know what's wrong with a / 

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2121652

Off course it's a "normal" problem with foreign language like the

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Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Heavy lift ship

« on: October 20, 2013, 09:58:53 PM »

Hello

Phil : the comma used for class notation is for "and".

The real class notation for the Frauke is : GL + 100 A5, G Solas II-2-Reg. 19, General Cargo Ship, Strengthened for Heavy Cargo, Heavy Lift Ship, MC AUT

Anyway you problably right to follow Equasis and Miramar even if she's definitly an Heavy Lift ship for the owner, for the operators, for the clients, for the classification

Then do you think that everything you said about SAL ships is not also applicable to the Kahn Jumbo-Shipping ships ?  As all the Jumbo-Shipping ships are Heavy lifts vessel on Shipspotting.

Best regards  Xtian

 

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Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Heavy lift ship

« on: October 20, 2013, 07:35:38 PM »

Thanks Dan and Elbe Dino it's easier to be not alone surprized with this strange change of category.

To be continue ... Wait and see

Best regards Xtian  

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Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Heavy lift ship

« on: October 20, 2013, 06:23:58 PM »

Hello,

By the way it's quite absurd. At first somebody changed the category of my picture of the Frauke from Heavy Lift ship to General Cargo ships built 2000-2010 (Over 3000gt)

As I've open this discussion here to know the reason why typical heavy lift ships like all the fleet of one the main Heavy Lift operator are not in the category Heavy Lift I've received no answer, comment or message from picture administrator,

So I've changed her back to Heavy Lift vessel.

Like a joke somebody have changed again, and that time just to Cargo

Is it somebody here to explain why all the Jumbo Ship fleet is accepted in the category Heavy lift and why all the fleet of SAL is not ?

Same job, same caracteristics, same classification from BV, LR etc ...  Even same cargo as here

So where is the difference between this Heavy Lift vessel
 
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1779847

and that General cargo ships built 2000-2010 (Over 3000gt)

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1865677

Yep, all the Combi-Lift ships are also not accepted here as Heavy Lift

I just hope to know, maybe there is a real reason

Kindest regards  Christian Herrou

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Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Heavy lift ship

« on: October 18, 2013, 05:27:33 PM »

Hello

Thanks for you comment, it's right that some years ago a 80t derrick was a big one, now it's quite normal.

Here it's strange to see all Jumbo Ship fleet accepted even small ship like Daniela with 500tons cranes (two cranes combination)

And all SAL fleet excluded, compared to Daniela, the Frauke is 1400 tons capable. 

Anyway both are true Heavy Lift ships with many details like ballast monitoring during loading, external arms with external ballasts, combination of two cranes etc.   

Heavy lift ships are really specialized ships, not only big muscles cranes ships and far from just general cargo

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Site related news, functions and modules / Heavy lift ship

« on: October 18, 2013, 04:27:57 PM »

Hi All,

I was surprised when posted the Heavy lift ship Frauke that my picture was transfered to General Cargo ships built 2000-2010 (Over 3000gt)

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1897985

The Frauke is a real heavy lift ship with large crane and outboard ballast tank

2 x 700 mtons SWL, 1 x 350 mtons SWL,combinable up to 1,400 mtons SWL

She is classed : GL + 100 A5, G Solas II-2-Reg. 19, General Cargo Ship, Strengthened for Heavy Cargo, Heavy Lift Ship, MC AUT

By the way I was looking the other ships in this category with Shipspotting.com and find that almost only semi-submersible are in this category.

It's not understandable how this category is working specialy when removing all the fleet of one of the main Heavy Lift ship owner

http://sal-heavylift.com/eng/home/
 
Like a confusion all the Kahn fleet is accepted as Heavy lift. Where is the difference ?
   
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_owner=Kahn Scheepvaart - Rotterdam, Netherlands

Maybe somebody can explain this snag ?

Have a nice day

Christian Herrou

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Shipping News and information / Re: French aircraft carrier Clemenceau

« on: February 16, 2006, 07:21:12 PM »

Hello
No Jakepot for Suez Canal as the ex-Clemenceau will come back to France via Cape of Good Hope !
Xtian