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Shipspotters all over the world => Shipping News and information => Topic started by: Robert McDonald on December 19, 2011, 06:40:03 PM
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With a wounded Vale Beijing still anchored about 5 miles off Sao Luis in the Roads, plans are moving forward to load the "Rio."
Vale Rio de Janeiro begins loading at PDM Berth 1 this afternoon (Brazil time.) She is scheduled to load 386,000 mt. This will be a "nail chewer" for everyone to be sure!
Vale Italia is scheduled to Berth 1 to load 390,000 mt, on Wednesday the 21st.
Plans to load Vale China are uncertain, probably based on what happens - or doesn't happen with the "Rio" and "Italia" over the next few days. She is scheduled to Berth 1 on New Years, but notice on today's Position Report, no estimate to berth nor departure dates entered!
Events this week may change that schedule.
Robert in Port Townsend
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Today we read that one of Vale Beijing's sisters is coming to Rotterdam early Januari, so I guess it could be Vale Rio de Janeiro who will come to Rotterdam.
We'll see.
Cheers Fred
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Ah Fred,
I've still got my fingers crossed for you. Maybe if your Christmas present didn't arrive as predicted something may turn up in the New Year! Here's hoping :) :)
Cheers
John J.
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Her AIS shows Canary Islands, ETA 28 December.
Going to join the C Whale perhaps?
Kelvin
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I wonder if they are going easy with the loading, perhaps with a lower loading rate, until they find out why Vale Beijing was damaged during loading...
Of course both Vale Rio de Janeiro and Vale Italia were built by DSME, which already has a good track record with Vale Brasil, while the ill-fated Beijing was built by STX. Rongsheng-built Vale China is another "wild card", being the first of her kind.
There are some external differences between the Valemax ships built in different shipyards, not to mention Berge's 388,000 DWT VLOCs that are apparently also referred to as Valemax vessels as they have been chartered by Vale, but it would be interesting to see some in-depth comparison between the different ships, e.g. steel drawings and strength calculations.
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Vale Rio de Janeiro left her berth in San Luis and is heading for Canary Island, ETA: 2011-12-28 13:00 (UTC) At this moment she is doing only 1 knot.
Cheers Fred
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She seems to have given up Fred.
Now parked at an anchorage.
She has been replaced on the berth though by Vale Italia.
Kelvin
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Bummer :-[
I had bad feelings already, when I saw her there doing only one knot.
I still think we will see one of them here real soon, I stay optimistic.
Cheers Fred
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VALE RIO DE JANEIRO was at anchor off Tenerife about some 4 hours ,refueled by SPABUNKER 50 and now she is sailing to Rotterdam eta 05-0300. The recorded track can be seen in LOCALIZATODO.COM. Prepare your video Fred
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I' ll be pitch black at that time :(
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Don't give up just yet Fred, weather can play a big part in voyage times this time of year and delays can be expected.
Keep everything crossed ;D
Brgds
Phil
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Hi Phil, don't worry, I'll be there. Guess she has a timeslot with that draft, so don't count on delays to much. We will see.
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New ETA Rotterdam 05/0900 passing Finisterre now in LOCALIZATODO.COM
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Now that is good news:)
Cheers Fred
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Hi Fred,
ETA Maasmond 5/15:00 but has to exchange berth with EVA N. On top, deep draught and force 6 winds expected. Keeping our fingers crossed ... for Friday ?!
Ciao,
Rob.
:-\
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Hi Rob,
All cranes were up at the Maasvlakte today, same for EECV I guess, so that is probably one day delay already for Eva N.
Cheers Fred
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Hi Fred,
In the pilot list, she must exchange berth with Eva N and
Arrived on high tide. 6th jan 0050. So night time :(.
Depending on the sea/swell condition.
Sea will go up to 6 meters and swell to 3 meters tomorrow.
So eurogeul closed.
Suspect she have to drop anchor.
Frans Sanderse
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What I already feared. Thanks Frans for the info.
Lets hope the Eurogeul stays closed longer.
Cheers Fred
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It's not getting better. NW force 9 and high tide expected tonight/tomorrow. They're contemplating closing the Maeslant Barrier. This effectively blocks the New Waterway to Rotterdam, although Calandcanal remains accessible.
Is pilotage suspended Frans ?
Ciao,
Rob.
:o
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Hi Rob,
Pilotage is continuing for some ships.
The ones without wind restrictions and which are able to reach pilot by helicopter will go in and out.
The small ships up to 125 without chemicals in bulk (read tankers) and regularly calling tankers will get pilot inside the breakwater by boat or disembark there.
So far no info that storm barrier (Maesland Barrier) will closed.
regards
Frans
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Eva N is leaving
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Storm abating; Maeslantbarrier remains open.
Just spoke with Port Authority but they couldn't say yet when "Vale Rio de Janeiro" would berth. Main problem is the present swell. Vessel's draught. is 22,60 mtrs.
So Fred, if we're not lucky berting tonight; if we're lucky tomorrow a.m.
Maybe Frans can furnish up-to-date input.
Ciao,
Rob.
::)
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Hello Rob and Fred,
Vale Rio de Janeiro now on the list for 06 22:59.
But I have doubt if this is possible.
If you visit the site..
http://www.meetadviesdienst.nl/nl/klanten/loodsdiensten/loods-haven-regio-rijnmond.htm
You can see hydro meteo verwachting voor de Eurogeul.
In column HE 10 you see for each hour the gk=..
This is the golf class.
I'm not a deep draft pilot, but I thought the Gk =<5 in order to enter.
For 22.55 mtr draft may be even less.
regard
Frans
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Hi Frans,
Thank you for your info. I'll be at the Maasvlakte tomorrow, we'll see what's happening.
Eva N left this morning, so her berth is free. Lets hope for tomorrow afternoon.
Cheers Fred
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Confusion - Port Authority just says 6/0100 at high tide so better be safe than sorry Fred !
Ciao,
rob.
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Oh well, bad luck.
Btw where is she now. Can't find her on Marinetraffic.
Cheers Fred
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Now appears in Marinetraffic at anchor (I think) some 43 miles distance .Good luck
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Hi Fred,
Still in the list for 22:59 to night. Golfclass <5. so thinks she come in tonight.
She is in anchorage no.1 (deepwater anchorage).
regards
Frans.
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Morning all.
Just had a word with port authority. Still at anchorage. Apparently too much swell for the Eurogeul. New berthing attempt late tonight or early a.m. on 07-01-12.
Rgds,
Rob.
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Early Jan 7? and how about hightide?
Pfff, what a hasle about one ship ;-)
Cheers Fred
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Hi Fred,
Changed again. Just spoke to Port Authority. New berthing attempt foreseen for Sunday January 8th. high tide 1440 hrs. That would mean daylight berthing. The guy said that he
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Hi Rob,
Correct, the ship is on the list for embarking pilot at 08th 08:00LT
Berthing at High water at 14:14.
regards
Frans
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Latest news is that she is coming in on Monday. Can someone confirm?
Cheers Fred
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Hi Fred,
Monday not confirmed. According the pilot side.
She have to stay outside till further notice.
regards
Frans
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Hi Frans,
So there's still a possibility that she's coming in tomorrow?
Cheers Fred
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Good evening all !
Just (7/1 12:20 lt.) had a word with Port Authority. No decision taken yet. They may know more some time tomorrow morning. View this reply feel it's doubtful she'll come in tomorrow. Will check again a.m. tomorrow.
Ciao,
Rob.
::)
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Man this ship is going to cost me some money, I already mailed my boss for an extra day off ;-)
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According to Marinetraffic the Vale is on the move !!
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Hi
Pilots are on board. passing the lowlight between 15:30 and 16:00 today !!!!
regards
Frans
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Just checking time of High water is 14:14.
Perhaps they have to arrive after the strong counter current from Nijlharbour (Gate terminal).
So between 15:30 and 16:00.
Better check you AIS from time to time
regards
Frans
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Hello shipspotters!
Now, it's two hours later after VALE was arriving Europoort. Where are your pictures? I'm very excited!
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I found some here: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/no/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9572329
I eagerly look forward to seeing more. :D
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There will be more. I only uploaded one to give the others a chance too.
If they don't upload I guess HansE will upload some more.
I am busy editing my video.
Cheers Fred
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If a number of photographers got a number of photographs of the ship, I wonder if it would be possible to have (at least) one picture published under a Creative Commons licence and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/)? The article about Valemax ships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valemax) could benefit from a picture or two.
Although it is easier if the author uploads the photographs by himself, it can also be done by others if a declaration of consent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries) is given by e-mail. If you would like to contribute but don't e.g. have an account for Commons, drop me a PM and I'll do it.
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Check this site for a nice repo..... http://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/08-01-2012/vale-rio-haven-binnengevaren
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTG0PDC6-4A
Arrival of the Vale Rio de Janeiro starts at 14:10
Cheers Fred
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Thanks Fred,those marvellous horns!
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Thank you Fred Beautifull vldeo
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Superb job Fred.
Thank you.
maripaul