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Title: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on March 29, 2024, 07:55:37 AM
Publishing the KARADENIZ POWERSHIP in Sudan.

And very close to these ships I found this:

(https://i.ibb.co/1dkbchN/0desconocido-1.jpg)

Above are the KARADENIZ POWERSHIP and there I indicate with a red arrow the place.

If we zoom in we can clearly see a sunken ship or an abandoned vessel

(https://i.ibb.co/xmrYw4g/0desconocido-2.jpg)


First I give you the location and the link to Google Maps.

Location: 19°22'35.9"N 37°18'55.9"E


Google Maps:
https://acortar.link/WqtSEj

Now look how interesting it is if you use Google Earth, using the timeline see what happens.

Google Earth image from the year 2000
(https://i.ibb.co/7g3nf2X/0desconocido-3.jpg)
Above are the POWERSHIP KARADENIZ and there I indicate with a red arrow the place and you can see a ship.


If we zoom in we can clearly see a ferry boat or a cruise ship.
(https://i.ibb.co/stQFFJW/0desconocido-4.jpg)
It seems to be stranded


Google Earth image from the year 2002
(https://i.ibb.co/ZdZcs1Y/0desconocido-5.jpg)


Google Earth image from the year 2011
(https://i.ibb.co/zsgjqSM/0desconocido-6.jpg)


Google Earth image from the year 2018
(https://i.ibb.co/5Yh9Dhr/0desconocido-8.jpg)


Google Earth image from the year 2023
(https://i.ibb.co/NxbVdz9/0desconocido-9.jpg)


I had found it years ago, but I researched it and never found out its name.

And now publishing the KARADENIZ POWERSHIP in Sudan, I saw it again and that's why I publish it here.

Does anyone know which is this ship?

Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on March 29, 2024, 08:48:58 AM
This is the SAUDI GOLDEN ARROW, see: https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/1141290
Built 1960 as EUROPAFERGEN, ferry Sweden - Denmark. Laid-up Port Sudan 2004, sunk 2007.
See (in Swedish): https://www.faktaomfartyg.se/europafergen_1960.htm
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on March 29, 2024, 09:54:04 AM
NO my friend that is in Abu Shawk Saudi Arabia.

Here is your ship SAUDI GOLDEN ARROW

Location: 20°52'50.8 "N 39°21'20.9 "E

Google Maps:
https://acortar.link/FQpK2h (https://acortar.link/FQpK2h)

Image from google Earth 2003:
(https://i.ibb.co/x55zrCD/0desconocido-10.jpg)


The ship I am looking for is in Sudan

The answer is appreciated, but I think this is not the ship.
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on March 30, 2024, 06:08:43 AM
I have been looking for the name of this ship for years.

Location: 19°22'35.9 "N 37°18'55.9 "E

Google Maps:
https://acortar.link/WqtSEj

Any data?
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Yvon Perchoc on March 30, 2024, 01:13:23 PM
Hello Mafioso,
I think the ship in position 19°22'35.9 "N 037°18'55.9 "E could be AL RASHEED (IMo6404935), former ferry CLANSMAN, built in 1964.
Regards,
Yvon
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 03, 2024, 03:32:21 AM
Hello Yvon

Thank you very much for replying, yes that is the ferry boat.
Searching on the web I find this:

https://www.shipsofcalmac.co.uk/ships-1/clansman-(iv)

and at the end it says this:

So the hapless CLANSMAN was re-sold, to Mira Shipping Line Ltd., Malta, and re-named TAMIRA, for a proposed Malta-Gozo run. She left the UK in December 1984 and it was soon reported she had been re-sold, to Euch Zammit & Sons Ltd., also of Malta – who renamed her AL HUSSEIN. In February 1986 she was was sailing in the Gulf of Akaba, and is still believed to be in service although later named AL RASHEED.

* She was last recorded in Lloyd's Register in 1994-95 and in 2002 was lying abandoned off the coast of Sudan - she can still be seen on Google Earth at co-ordinates 19 22' 35.87"N, 37 18' 56.11"E

Text thanks to John MacLeod


For me it is confirmed that it is him:

1964: Clansman
1985: Tamira
1984: Al Hussen
1986: Al Rashheed

(IMO: 6404935)

CONFIRMED?


Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 05, 2024, 08:46:02 AM
FIND and CONFIRMED by @YvonPerchoc
Thank you very much my friend you are a GENIUS
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Yvon Perchoc on April 13, 2024, 01:51:05 AM
Hello Mafioso,
Do you have any idea about the name of the wreck in position 27°04'30"N & 035°46'44"E (Red Sea) on Google Earth ?
I have a candidate but a ship sunk during 1969 and I wonder if after so long time the hull could be still visible ... So puzzle.
Thanks by advance.
Regards,
yvon
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 14, 2024, 03:30:31 AM
For me, it's Nantes, then Lacey 2, then ENAI.

I run aground on December 3, 1969 south of the island of Al-Numan.

Information:
https://sabq.org/saudia/2k87q9
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Yvon Perchoc on April 14, 2024, 11:35:34 AM
Hello Mafioso,
Thank you very much for your reply and the very interesting link.
That confirms this wreck is the previous French ship NANTES, wrecked in 1969.
I had some doubt because I was afraid the hull must be more destroy by the sea after so many years.
Now all is clear !
Cheers,
Yvon
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 15, 2024, 01:30:10 AM
Hello Yvon

That's right, confirmed it is the NANTES.
There are many shipwrecks in the red sea.
And many can be seen on google maps or google earth and those are the ones that interest me.

I have several that are unknown to me.

We will have to make a topic Shipwrecks in the Red Sea.
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 17, 2024, 07:05:13 AM
Hi @Yvon Perchoc looking for something in Manila, Philippines.

I find this:

(https://i.ibb.co/WWLf5n2/Manila-1.jpg)

Looks like that ship is hanging around the same place since 2018 look:

(https://i.ibb.co/7G4NkDx/Manila-2.jpg)

Location: 14°34'13.4 "N 120°58'02.6 "E

Google Maps:
https://acortar.link/meHBnW (https://acortar.link/meHBnW)

Looks like a pretty old ferry, anyone know anything?
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: rd77 on April 17, 2024, 09:10:41 AM
There is this Norwegian guy in the Philippines who has a whole fleet of these old research vessels which he tries to sell as yachts/conversion opportunities. I wonder if this could be one of his. I am struggling to remember the names of his boats. When I do, I will post here.

Best,
Ralph
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: rd77 on April 17, 2024, 09:18:31 AM
This is the one I was thinking of, NORTHERN QUEEN ex-KOYO MARU (IMO 7709253), but I see now that it is not a total match:

http://www.subsee-philippines.com/MV_Northern_Queen.php

Best,
Ralph
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 18, 2024, 02:16:30 AM
Hello Ralph it is not the NORTHERN QUEEN ex-KOYO MARU (IMO 7709253)

The NORTHERN QUEEN is in Cebu Philippines.

here:

(https://i.ibb.co/pxbs2Mk/Cebu1.jpg)

Location: 10°19'07.3 "N 123°56'58.3 "E

In Google Maps it says Ouano Wharf in the images you will find this one:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hPGpuETuf57U6rQZ6 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/hPGpuETuf57U6rQZ6)

In the image of the link is the red boat in the background.

Thank you because I have added this one to my list of possible scrapped or sunk ships.
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: rd77 on April 18, 2024, 07:55:33 AM
oh ok, good that my info was still useful for you! Your mystery ship look more like a (former?) research or training vessel to me. Many lifeboats so maybe more likely to have been a training vessel.
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: rd77 on April 18, 2024, 08:21:16 AM
I just remembered this one, KAPITAN FELIX OCA ex-SEIUN MARU: https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/2462912

Looks like a match!

Best,
Ralph
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 19, 2024, 02:20:55 AM
Yes friend Ralph that must be the boat because it matches everything.

I was struck by the tall yellow smokestack.

Then I followed it on Google earth and since 2015 it is anchored there, I thought it was abandoned.

But it does not continue as a training ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBnehwoYHfw

Thank you very much my friend!
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: Mafioso on April 19, 2024, 02:47:14 AM
I was looking for ship CAPTAIN UFUK - IMO 6802216

https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/1661274

And I found it and near the CAPTAIN UFUK was this ship that caught my attention and thanks to you Ralph, I know that the ship is the KAPITAN FELIX OCA.
Title: Re: Unknown ferry or cruise ship
Post by: rd77 on April 19, 2024, 11:03:22 AM
Yes friend Ralph that must be the boat because it matches everything.

I was struck by the tall yellow smokestack.

Then I followed it on Google earth and since 2015 it is anchored there, I thought it was abandoned.

But it does not continue as a training ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBnehwoYHfw

Thank you very much my friend!

My pleasure, these are nice little puzzles to solve! Looks like she is in a stationary role now, just anchored but continuing as a training ship.