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Shipspotters all over the world => Shipping News and information => Topic started by: dirk septer on July 01, 2020, 12:21:58 PM
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following the demise of vessel's owner Pullmantur Cruises, Monarch and Sovereign
after having been stripped at Naples, Italy are now reportedly en route to
Turkey to be scrapped. Now stopped and waiting for orders.... What's happening?
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Rumours abound; according to the latest will all three Pullmantur ships now actually are going back to RCI. Sovereign and Monarch to RCCL and Horizon to Celebrity. The RCCL will do short cruises and the Horizon will fill a small ship niche for Celebrity.
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I don't think the Horizon is going back to Celebrity as it's sister ship, Zenith, was given to Peace Boat. Maybe they will give Horizon to Peace Boat in exchange for Ocean Dream. I do hope the Sovereign and Monarch do go back to RCI or gets sold for further cruising. Also, here's a photo of them laid up in Naples Italy June 22, 2020.
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SOVEREIGN and MONARCH now both circling E/NE of Malta
MARELLA DREAM similarly.
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It looks like the Sovereign and Monarch may head to the scrap yards along with Marella Cruises' Marella Dream and Marella Celebration.
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Hello all,
The official of a scrapyard in Aliaga informed me that The Zenith will come to Aliaga first. I will be the first person to get in and start collecting pieces (no sales, for my collection). I will post pictures when she comes.
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Hello all,
The official of a scrapyard in Aliaga informed me that The Zenith will come to Aliaga first. I will be the first person to get in and start collecting pieces (no sales, for my collection). I will post pictures when she comes.
Surprised that The Zenith is also going, as she had just been handed over to PeaceBoat. She is currently off a Greek island called Agios Georgios. I would have expected Horizon to come first. Horizon just arrived at Piraeus this morning from Oman.
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The Horizon and Zenith are sister ships. They were both originally built for Celebrity Cruises. Likewise, the Sovereign and Monarch were both originally built for Royal Caribbean. I don't think these vessels should be scrapped as there less than 30 years old and had already received refurbishments a few years ago.
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The Horizon and Zenith are sister ships. They were both originally built for Celebrity Cruises. Likewise, the Sovereign and Monarch were both originally built for Royal Caribbean. I don't think these vessels should be scrapped as there less than 30 years old and had already received refurbishments a few years ago.
That is all irrelevant right now. The ships are about 30 years old which means they are past their economic lifetime, they are completely written down and there is simply no market to sustain them, nor will there be (in all likelihood) in a year's time. Besides, laying them up also costs about 1 million USD per month(estimate from Carnival). Whether we like it or not, they are going for the chop.
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Pullmantur Cruises Horizon arrived at Piraeus, Athens to be stripped of any valuable items.
http://www.cruiseharbournews.com/horizonpiraeus.html?fbclid=IwAR2AHididN9xCb_RmGiiQyehDEKXZubzituF67umVb-28T2WQ5pWfEvd5aQ
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Strange about THE ZENITH (changed name and rebranded to Peace Boat in March, along with move from Malta to Panama register - and class certificates all updated).
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/picture/ships/3805021/8918136/shipid:302027 (https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/picture/ships/3805021/8918136/shipid:302027)
But I suppose the Japanese are holding their cards close to their chests.
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Also, with Pullmantur dissolving, what will happen to Grandeur of the Seas? The vessel was going to transfer over in 2021, but with Pullmantur gone, where will she go. It's unknown if Royal Caribbean would want to keep the vessel so if Pullmantur Cruises is going bankrupt, they may sell the ship for scrap.
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We, shipspotters, must unite our powers & do something to save these beatiful ships from getting scrapped! Besides, I still haven't spotted neither of them yet coming to my town.
There's some good news, both Horizon and Monarch are for sale! Here ate the links for the vessels, respectively. https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/modern-cruise-ship-1800-passengers--stock-no-s2393-2874747/ https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1991/cruise-ship-2-744-passengers--stock-no-s2151-3012402/
Also, The Rhapsody of the Seas is also for sale. https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1997/cruise-ship-2417-passengers-stock-no-s2509-3024096/
Don't see Sovereign for sale, so she may actually been sold to be scrapped.
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The Monarch is close to the shipbreakers in Aliaga, Turkey. All remaining crew transfered to Celebrity İnfinity which is heading back to Greece.
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Monarch is near Aliaga, Turkey, but her position is facing towards Greece which means she's either heading back to Malta or waiting to be beached.
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The Monarch is moving away from Alaga, Turkey. Maybe she won't be scrapped.
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Monarch Arrives In Aliaga For Scrapping
https://www.cruiseharbournews.com/monarchaliaga.html?fbclid=IwAR2zZeFpLKPJwnkbMLKYbaN868Hl41sKlMsXFPfPcwEcIYbOnooXh4k6Tik
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She is in Aliaga. She will beach in this week. I will take pictures hopefully.
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We need to try to save the vessels. It's our last hope. They hadn't scrapped them yet, so there's time to buy the Monarch. Her sale listing is still up! Let's make a fundraiser.
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RCCL is one of the largest, and most successful cruise ship operations in the world. If they, with all of their experience, have come to the conclusion that (particularly in the present climate) these ships are no longer viable how do envisage operating these ships successfully? Assuming that is if you are able to raise sufficient funds to purchase the vessels in the first place.
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RCCL is one of the largest, and most successful cruise ship operations in the world. If they, with all of their experience, have come to the conclusion that (particularly in the present climate) these ships are no longer viable how do envisage operating these ships successfully? Assuming that is if you are able to raise sufficient funds to purchase the vessels in the first place.
I hadn't thought it through. Maybe turn them into a hotel like Queen Mary and QE2.
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How about turning them into accommodation ships for illegal immigrants anchored offshore? The Italians have got the MOBY ZAZA used thus ,though she is moored in a harbour.
Or even as an accommodation / hospital ships for the Corona cases in countries where the pandemic is rampant and there is a great need for hospital beds.
The Mercy Ships organization make invaluable use of such ships.
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
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Maybe we can at least ask Aliaga for the tip of the bow of Monarch so we can restore it to it's RCCL colors and put it on display like they did with the bow of the France/Norway.
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Selim San Instagram
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Pullmantur Monarch confirmed to have ran ashore. Scrapping is imminent. Again, let's get the tip of her bow, but also her funnel.
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Pullmantur Monarch confirmed to have ran ashore.
Just to be clear, as at 9.45 GMT, MONARCH is still anchor in the anchorage to the South West of Aliaga, and has not "ran ashore". Let's keep to reporting facts please.
Krispen
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Here is another image of Pullmantur Sovereign and Monarch laid up in Naples, Italy in June 2020. The Sovereign-class vessel in the foreground is Sovereign, the one in the background is Monarch. The Norwegian Jade is also visible in the picture in the right.
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SOVEREIGN now showing as heading for Aliaga, though currently heading Northward and closing on the drifting CELEBRITY CONSTELLATION, SE of Lesbos.
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http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3183103
Please see my last picture
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I can sadly confirm that the Sovereign's crew is being transferred to the Celebrity Constellation. It's also sad to see the Sovereign and the Celebrity Constellation near Aliaga and poor old Monarch. Royal Caribbean is really going to scrap these once largest vessels in the world. Majesty of the Seas still survives! We should buy the tip of their bows to preserve like the ex-France.
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I can sadly confirm that the Sovereign's crew is being transferred to the Celebrity Constellation. It's also sad to see the Sovereign and the Celebrity Constellation near Aliaga and poor old Monarch. Royal Caribbean is really going to scrap these once largest vessels in the world. Majesty of the Seas still survives! We should buy the tip of their bows to preserve like the ex-France.
Why??? They're old, tired, and no longer fit the current market that demands balconies. There's nothing special about them.
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Hi there!
It is of course not nice to see that a whole bunch of pretty and well-maintained ships will be dismantled. Compared to the ships that are about to be scrapped now, I am much more sorry for Fred Olsens classic beauties "Boudicca" and "Black Watch", which will probably follow soon.
All the best,
Stefan
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I expect that we will be seeing the entire fleet of ships operated by CMV heading off to the breakers too as the company has been declared bankrupt.
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I expect that we will be seeing the entire fleet of ships operated by CMV heading off to the breakers too as the company has been declared bankrupt.
This topic is about Pullmantur Cruises, you may want to comment on the link to the CMV topic instead: http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,16965.msg90525.html#new
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Ok, so here is my concept on how we can save and display the tip of the Pullmantur Sovereign's bow and it's similar to how they preserved the bow of the France/Norway. We first buy the bow tip from the scrappers in Aliaga, Turkey. Next, we ship it back to France to restore it back to it's white Royal Caribbean livery. Then, we put it on a stand and put it on display in Paris Yacht Marina, Port de Grenelle, Paris, France exactly next to the bow of the France/Norway. I have attached a concept of the tip of Sovereign's bow and the location on where to put it. The location would also have Sovereign's funnel located next to it and painted back to white, but I didn't made a concept as it would be too obvious.
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Look, if we can't save the vessel itself, then we can at least save some samples. The Tip of the Bow is the first thing to be removed in scrapyards in Turkey and India so it's easy to retrieve the tip of the bow to put on display.
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Monarch beached in Aliaga :'(
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Given the things being suggested in this thread I'm not quite sure how many on this site are actually sane, or maybe they are just trolling??
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The Cruise ship Monarch was beached at Aliaga this morning
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Given the things being suggested in this thread I'm not quite sure how many on this site are actually sane, or maybe they are just trolling??
Considering that your new here with only 6 post's and fairly negative post's at that perhaps it's you who is "just" trolling!
Your not going to make many friends on this site by suggesting that people "maybe are just trolling"!
FYI sane dedicated shipping enthusiasts on this site are not "just trolling". Your a newbie here and it's YOU that seems to be the one that's "just" trolling.
Your credibility factor has not got very far in such a short space of time and if you continue to accuse others of "trolling" it's not going to do anything for your credibility at all on this site!
Perhaps it's best that you don't comment at all 😉
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Monarch has beached in Aliaga, waiting for Sovereign to meet the same fate.
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Monarch has beached in Aliaga, waiting for Sovereign to meet the same fate.
Robbie Cox had already commented on the news of the beaching of the MONARCH at 10.29 two posts above yours, nearly five hours difference!
Very very sad news though, out of all the vessel's so far heading to the scrap merchants the Pullmantur Cruises fleet is without the worst outcome from the Coronavirus pandemic we've yet seen.
Although she is 28 year's old it seems like yesterday when I first visited her shortly after her delivery from Chantiers De l'Atlantique in 1992. The Pullmantur Cruises fleet were always kept immaculate both externally and internally. With Pullmantur Cruises catering to the Brazilian and Spanish markets the Coronavirus pandemic had a major affect on the company and it's a huge blow to the South American and Spanish cruise industry.
With the demise of Pullmantur Spain no longer has it's own cruise company.
The Sovereign class were revolutionary ship's at the time and we're also the biggest cruise ships at the time of their deliveries, they were indeed the first mega cruise ships and have always been extremely popular. If it wasn't for the recent circumstances surrounding the collapse of the cruise industry one would have expected that they would have least seen another five or six years service life remaining.
When I first found out about the news of the MONARCH being beached early this morning I had a cry, it hit me hard, the real reality of what's happening with the cruise industry really sunk in. More so than I realised that my own personal career in the cruise industry after 38 year's may well have also ended. But I'm not looking for a new job, I'm hoping that the cruise industry will return to some form of normality in 2021.
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https://gcaptain.com/watch-cruise-ship-ms-monarch-arrives-at-turkish-breakers/
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I just received an email from the Fairmount: after watching that video of the Monarch's beaching, they said it's not a problem to tow her back on the water with a couple of their 200t bollard pull tugs. A problem is that while they are on their way to Aliaga to resque the Monarch, the [not typed] would be already cutting off her piece by piece. I guess we would need more glue then.
That's ok, I have a rib on standby to tow her back off the beach.
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RIB won't do it, but you can use it for inspecting the Monarch while Fairmount's tugs try to tow her off the beach.
Good idea, I'll bring my hacksaw along with the pickup truck. I can saw through her bow and take it away for safe keeping.
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SOVEREIGN made her final voyage and joined the MONARCH on the beach at Aliaga this morning.
Krispen
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Please see the last picture:
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3184283
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I say we tow the Monarch out of Turkey and back to France to be restored and to sail again. As for Sovereign, we take it's bow and funnel back to France on Monarch where we put those two items on display next to the tip of the bow of France/Norway!
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Denis,
I talked to them many times. This is business. If you want to purchase the ship, pay them double and the ship is free. Then, everyone is happy.
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ftakma1,
Will it be possible to ask the Aliaga scrappers to save the tip of the bow of the Sovereign? Please do that.
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Pullmantur Horizon arrives in Limassol, Greece. She will be heading to Aliaga, Turkey soon.
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I bought the bow. Do not worry. I will use it in my coffeeshop.
I bought the many items so no worries. I will send you the pictures but please wait. The Carnival ships are coming, I also have to get in those ships.
Sad news: Fred Olsen's cruise ships, Bouddica and BLack Watch are sold to the breakers in Aliaga.
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I had different promises to some of you guys. One by one:
1- I took the pictures of captain master room.
2- I bought the bow of the ship. I bought the tables, chairs, operation manual, a glass guy playing piano figure, all the arts, and many other things! None of them are for sale. They are all for personal and business reasons.
3- I took so many pictures but I cannot establish them right away because I gave a promise to the breakers that I will not publish them in this month. So please wait.
4- I bought so many items but I do not remember all of them. Give me time, I will publish their pictures.
5- The Islamic holy day (three days) is coming up this weekend, so many places are closed. I will not be responding to any emails and posts from Friday to Sunday.
6- To all, sorry, but many cruise ships are going to come to the breakers in Aliaga. At least 6 ships that I know. The breakers believe that there will be at least 12 cruise ships will be broken in 2020. (this is the minimum number) :'( :'( :'( :'(
Those who call me ftakma1, my name is Fatih. Let you know.
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Monarch was sold for 5.5 million dollars!!!
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For those who cry and mourn for Monarch, please stop for a moment!
Bouddica and Black Watch are coming! Maybe 6 ships of CMV are also in the 'talks' here! I think we start crying and mourning early! The British run ships are more valuable in terms of maritime history such as Astoria, Marco Polo. So for now, please pray for these ladies go to somewhere else but breakers.
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FTI Cruises has shut down so we could give the FTI Berlin as well as CMV's Astor to Aliaga in exchange for Monarch. We would have to also pay Aliaga 5.5 million dollars to retrieve the Monarch and tow it back to Europe. They don't start scrapping the vessels until Monday August 3, so we have to act fast before it's too late.
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FTI Cruises has shut down so we could give the FTI Berlin as well as CMV's Astor to Aliaga in exchange for Monarch. We would have to also pay Aliaga 5.5 million dollars to retrieve the Monarch and tow it back to Europe. They don't start scrapping the vessels until Monday August 3, so we have to act fast before it's too late.
Good idea!
I've got three quid I can chuck in the pot. How are you raising the rest? Cake sale?
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FTI Cruises has shut down so we could give the FTI Berlin as well as CMV's Astor to Aliaga in exchange for Monarch. We would have to also pay Aliaga 5.5 million dollars to retrieve the Monarch and tow it back to Europe. They don't start scrapping the vessels until Monday August 3, so we have to act fast before it's too late.
Good idea!
I've got three quid I can chuck in the pot. How are you raising the rest? Cake sale?
I don't have that much money at the moment, but I do propose making a gofundme or have people here chip in.
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http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3187374
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CDOm48YJk07/?igshid=g96zeucbkvco
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Hello,
do you know if since Pullmantur filed for bankruptcy, they are going to do ships sale? Do they still have an active fleet and provide services by the way?
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Hello,
do you know if since Pullmantur filed for bankruptcy, they are going to do ships sale? Do they still have an active fleet and provide services by the way?
We been talking about those in this topic post: http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,16941.0.html
To summarize it, they sold their ships to the scrap yards in Aliaga, Turkey, all arrived there yesterday, and Pullmantur has ended all operations.
This post will be merged to the topic whose link I provided.
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The topics have been merged.
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Hello,
do you know if since Pullmantur filed for bankruptcy, they are going to do ships sale? Do they still have an active fleet and provide services by the way?
We been talking about those in this topic post: http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,16941.0.html
To summarize it, they sold their ships to the scrap yards in Aliaga, Turkey, all arrived there yesterday, and Pullmantur has ended all operations.
This post will be merged to the topic whose link I provided.
Ahh Thank you! it is indeed very helpful!! Do you know where I can see all their fleet and ships status?
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The Pullmantur Horizon arrived at Piraeus, Greece
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Royal Caribbean Group is also selling former Pullmantur vessels Ocean Dream (ex. Tropicale, Costa Tropicale, Pacific Star)(returned to Royal Caribbean in exchange for Zenith) and Empress (currently sailing once again for Royal Caribbean International as Empress of the Seas). Funny thing, Empress of the Seas is listed twice for sale, so I included both of Empress' sale links.
Ocean Dream: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/cruise-ship--1340-1422-passengers-stock-no-s2616-3696639/
Empress of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/cruise-ship--1602-2020-passengers-stock-no-s2559-3695102/ https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/custom-1840-pax-cruise-ship-3696054/
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Empress is currently en route to Marsaxlokk, Malta which was the last port of call for Sovereign and Monarch before they went to Aliaga. Unfortunately, it seems like she may be joining them shortly.
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The Empress of the Seas is as old as the Sovereign and Monarch, but received a heavy refurbishment in 2016 to rejoin the Royal Caribbean fleet. I think she will be sold to continue cruising as scraping the vessel would be a waste of money that was put in her refurbishment.
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Majesty of the Seas is for sale. If no one buys her, she's likely going to join her sisters in Aliaga. Here's the link:
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992/cruise-ship-2354-passenger-3699675/
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My new videos
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDeQxPXpood/?igshid=u4tmqmy69keo
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDeRAJRJkMs/?igshid=o22o5hjjn86s
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE2hatfolQbwUrP7rv1B3BA
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Interesting, it has the exact same videos on YouTube and Instragram.
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The tip of the bow of Sovereign has been cut. Scrapping has been for her. Monarch and Fantasy still look intact.
https://www.cruisehive.com/part-of-bow-already-cut-off-from-the-former-sovereign-of-the-seas/41029
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New pictures and video:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDq09tVpN8x/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Royal Caribbean to sell more ships.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23354-royal-caribbean-group-evaluating-ship-sales.html
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There is also a gap between Monarch and Sovereign. It could most likely be for Horizon, who has yet to enter the scrapyard.
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My new video:
https://youtu.be/1_aORXaoCrk
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Oh No, now the entire face of Sovereign is gone! The Monarch, Fantasy, and Inspiration haven't started scrapping yet. Maybe there's still time to save them.
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So today, I notice that the online sailing postings for both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas on YachtWorld both have a red Sale Pending message on the pages. That means that whoever is buying them is negotiating with the ship sellers and Royal Caribbean. Let's hope that a cruise line is going to save them because if the buyer is the Aliaga scrappers, than the Sovereign-class will go extinct.
Empress of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/cruise-ship--1602-2020-passengers-stock-no-s2559-3695102/
Majesty of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992/cruise-ship-2354-passenger-stock-no-s2149-3699675/
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If we can't save the vessels from further use, I propose that we buy both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas and exchange the Monarch for Empress of the Seas and tow her out of Aliaga while leaving Sovereign to her fate. This would mean Empress would be scrapped, but Monarch and Majesty would be ok. Then, we tow and scuttle them to a area that would be deep enough for other ships to pass through but not too deep so divers can access the sister wrecks. Then, they could survive being tourist diving destinations and artificial reefs. Plus, if people demand these vessels be restored, we can raise them and restore them. This should be how the vessels should end their sailing services.
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Given the things being suggested in this thread I'm not quite sure how many on this site are actually sane, or maybe they are just trolling??
Best jolly regads
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So today, I notice that the online sailing postings for both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas on YachtWorld both have a red Sale Pending message on the pages. That means that whoever is buying them is negotiating with the ship sellers and Royal Caribbean. Let's hope that a cruise line is going to save them because if the buyer is the Aliaga scrappers, than the Sovereign-class will go extinct.
Empress of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/cruise-ship--1602-2020-passengers-stock-no-s2559-3695102/
Majesty of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992/cruise-ship-2354-passenger-stock-no-s2149-3699675/
Now, there is signs that the vessels may head to the scrapyard (possible even to Aliaga where their sisters Sovereign and Monarch are) did to the vessels still having the Sale Pending sign online and due to how they both have a destination to Malta which was Sovereign and Monarch's last destination before Aliaga. Now Royal Caribbean has denied the rummors, but they have done this in the past. Even rivals like Carnival and Norwegian have done the same. They're 30 years old and could be retired any day.
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If we can't save the vessels from further use, I propose that we buy both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas and exchange the Monarch for Empress of the Seas and tow her out of Aliaga while leaving Sovereign to her fate. This would mean Empress would be scrapped, but Monarch and Majesty would be ok. Then, we tow and scuttle them to a area that would be deep enough for other ships to pass through but not too deep so divers can access the sister wrecks. Then, they could survive being tourist diving destinations and artificial reefs. Plus, if people demand these vessels be restored, we can raise them and restore them. This should be how the vessels should end their sailing services.
You keep proposing all these weird and wonderful ideas. Do you have any idea of just how much USD 1 million is? Now consider that you need several multiples of that to buy a ship. Not to mention the expense of keeping a ship in operation, seaworthy and wages for the crew. All that when other major cruise lines are fighting to stay afloat and having ships idle.
As much as we all hate seeing a ship on the beach, that is the way it is. Let's face it the lock downs have brought economic hardships to all countries and luxury expenses like cruises are the first thing people cut on (assuming the feel safe to go on a cruise). So it is very likely that we will still see more ships on the beach, more cruise lines fail. And worst of all, more people without a job and families without an income. Let's try to keep that in perspective.
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Removing excess tonnage from the market also benefits shipyards when the industry eventually recovers and there will again be demand for new cruise ships. Let's just hope the yards will survive until then...
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So today, I notice that the online sailing postings for both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas on YachtWorld both have a red Sale Pending message on the pages. That means that whoever is buying them is negotiating with the ship sellers and Royal Caribbean. Let's hope that a cruise line is going to save them because if the buyer is the Aliaga scrappers, than the Sovereign-class will go extinct.
Empress of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/cruise-ship--1602-2020-passengers-stock-no-s2559-3695102/
Majesty of the Seas: https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992/cruise-ship-2354-passenger-stock-no-s2149-3699675/
Now, there is signs that the vessels may head to the scrapyard (possible even to Aliaga where their sisters Sovereign and Monarch are) did to the vessels still having the Sale Pending sign online and due to how they both have a destination to Malta which was Sovereign and Monarch's last destination before Aliaga. Now Royal Caribbean has denied the rummors, but they have done this in the past. Even rivals like Carnival and Norwegian have done the same. They're 30 years old and could be retired any day.
The vessels have been delisted online and have been sold. Now we patiently wait.
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Ftakma1 just recently posted a video on Instagram. Scrapping of Monarch has begun. She also said in Turkish that more vessels will arrive. She didn't mention which vessels but to me, Its likely Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas, but we just have to wait and see.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEENcYEJdQa/?igshid=1s017u0qj4ee1
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Another day, another video from Aliaga.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEPVRKBJ7KF/?igshid=1d2k7mcgdh8n8
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Hi,
Having been anchored at various points around the South coast of the UK, Majesty of the Seas left Dover with AIS showing destination as Valletta. Moving closer to the beach?
Rgds
NT
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Hi,
Having been anchored at various points around the South coast of the UK, Majesty of the Seas left Dover with AIS showing destination as Valletta. Moving closer to the beach?
Rgds
NT
Majesty of the Seas will head to Valetta, Malta to join Empress of the Seas. They're likely going to join Majesty's sister ships Sovereign and Monarch in Aliaga, Turkey after they unload all of their items.
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Majesty of the Seas is heading to Valetta, Malta to join Empress of the Seas and unload all of their items. They're likely going to join Majesty's sister ships and former Pullmantur vessels Sovereign and Monarch in Aliaga, Turkey.
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Grandeur of the Seas is going to remain with Royal Caribbean International after April 2021. RCI has confirmed that she will not be scrapped.
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/08/26/royal-caribbean-will-keep-grandeur-of-the-seas-the-fleet
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Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas have arrived to Souda, Greece. They will both sail to Aliaga soon.
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The vessels are still laid up in Souda, Greece to disembark their interior furnishings. Once all of their interior furnishings have been removed, they will sail to Aliaga.
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The vessels are still laid up in Souda, Greece to disembark their interior furnishings. Once all of their interior furnishings have been removed, they will sail to Aliaga.
Angelgreat, this is at least fourth time you have made this statement in this forum. Can you please link to a genuine/official source which has advised that this pair are going to Aliaga, or is this statement an assumption based on the movements of the other ships (so far Monarch and Sovereign).
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Well Zenith is not going to Peace Boat as I said earlier.
Hello all,
The official of a scrapyard in Aliaga informed me that The Zenith will come to Aliaga first. I will be the first person to get in and start collecting pieces (no sales, for my collection). I will post pictures when she comes.
Surprised that The Zenith is also going, as she had just been handed over to PeaceBoat. She is currently off a Greek island called Agios Georgios. I would have expected Horizon to come first. Horizon just arrived at Piraeus this morning from Oman.
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Well Zenith is not going to Peace Boat as I said earlier.
Hello all,
The official of a scrapyard in Aliaga informed me that The Zenith will come to Aliaga first. I will be the first person to get in and start collecting pieces (no sales, for my collection). I will post pictures when she comes.
Surprised that The Zenith is also going, as she had just been handed over to PeaceBoat. She is currently off a Greek island called Agios Georgios. I would have expected Horizon to come first. Horizon just arrived at Piraeus this morning from Oman.
Yes, thats because the charter of the Zenith to Peace Boat was cancelled due to Pullmantur Cruises going bankrupt. Since Ocean Dream was also chartered from Pullmantur Cruises, Peace Boat will have to return both vessels to Royal Caribbean. Don't worry, Peace Boat will charter Princess Cruises Sea Princess.
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The Zenith has been returned to Royal Caribbean. She is presently at Lavrion, so not very far from Aliaga. She will sail there with her sister ship Horizon. Horizon still laid up in Pireaus.
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The Zenith has been returned to Royal Caribbean. She is presently at Lavrion, so not very far from Aliaga. She will sail there with her sister ship Horizon. Horizon still laid up in Pireaus.
I am sorry, but this simply is not correct.
She was sold by RCL, being handed over in January 2020 to Zenith Cruise Inc, a subsidiary of Japan Grace Co. (Peace Boat), with Maritime Holdings Group Inc. as technical managers. She was renamed "THE ZENITH" under the Panamanian flag in March, as seen here: http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3198452
Ship is classed by DNV GL, who confirm these details, see: https://vesselregister.dnvgl.com/vesselregister/vesseldetails.html?vesselid=G107402
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The Zenith has been returned to Royal Caribbean. She is presently at Lavrion, so not very far from Aliaga. She will sail there with her sister ship Horizon. Horizon still laid up in Pireaus.
I am sorry, but this simply is not correct.
She was sold by RCL, being handed over in January 2020 to Zenith Cruise Inc, a subsidiary of Japan Grace Co. (Peace Boat), with Maritime Holdings Group Inc. as technical managers. She was renamed "THE ZENITH" under the Panamanian flag in March, as seen here: http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3198452
Ship is classed by DNV GL, who confirm these details, see: https://vesselregister.dnvgl.com/vesselregister/vesseldetails.html?vesselid=G107402
Well, the Ocean Dream had been chartered to Peace Boat from Pullmantur Cruises so Royal Caribbean technically still own the vessel.
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The OCEAN DREAM is not owned by Royal Caribbean Cruise Line.
The OCEAN DREAM was sold to Pullmantur Cruises in April 2008. She was previously operated by P&O Cruises Australia as their PACIFIC STAR.
The OCEAN DREAM was sold by P&O Australia to the Japanese Peace Boat on the 21 January 2012 with a delivery in the April 2012.
The OCEAN DREAM transferred to the Panamanian flag and is registered to Management Holdings Group, Panama.
Peace Boat is understood to be chartering the SUN PRINCESS from Princess Cruises, not the SEA PRINCESS as you have previously stated.
The charter of the SUN PRINCESS will allow for the disposal of the OCEAN DREAM which was Carnival Cruises first purpose built cruise ship when she was completed in 1981.
The SUN PRINCESS will be renamed the PACIFIC WORLD and is due to enter service with Peace Boat in Spring 2021.
The PACIFIC WORLD will replace the both the OCEAN DREAM and ZENITH.
The ZENITH was sold by Pullmantur Cruises in July 2019 with a delivery set for early 2020. Due to the timing of her delivery and the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic I can't confirm whether the ZENITH actually entered service with Peace Boat. The ZENITH was sold by Pullmantur Cruises to Peace Boat under Management Holdings Group, Panama.
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The Sovereign's face is gone. Her decks are being removed. They didn't do much on Monarch, so maybe we can still save her. Here's the video link.
https://youtu.be/Zz76Y19hps8
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Interesting the same virus that caused their early demise is also prolonging it - There's apparently an oxygen shortage at a number of yards due to COVID which is slowing down demolition work.
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Thanks Canberra97 and Krispen for bringing some facts and common sense to this thread. Badly needed. The recent scrappings of cruise ships have brought out a whole bunch of new "ship enthusiasts" who all don't seem to have a single clue about how the cruise business, shipowning/management and ship scrapping businesses work.
No ships are going to be saved, certainly not once they are on the beach. Please save up your pennies and make a pilgrimage to the SS ROTTERDAM, which was (luckily) saved at the expense of EUR 240 million of the Dutch taxpayers' money. That amount alone should tell anyone why all these ideas of saving early 90s cruise ships with no balconies, small cabins and little to no historic appeal will not work.
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This will be on Channel 7 tonight here in Australia. I will post the rest when it has been on.
https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1310406373713145857
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Hey Nick, nice find indeed! Do keep us posted.
Best,
Ralph
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Here is the link to the Video from Channel 7 tonight here in Australia.
https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1310507431751872517
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Here is the link to the Video from Channel 7 tonight here in Australia.
https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1310507431751872517
Now I'm worried that Empress and Majesty will join their sisters in Aliaga.
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The Pullmantur Sovereign and the Pullmantur Monarch alongside the Carnival Fantasy, Carnival Imagination, and Carnival Inspiration have been featured by Reuters and South China Morning Post. They interviewed the chairman of the Aliaga Scrapyard and he said that three more vessels will arrive in a few weeks. I fear the three vessels he mentioned includes the Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas as well as the Carnival Fascination. Here is the link to the videos:
https://youtu.be/-T0I4eCrzjw
https://youtu.be/PymG1jV_xZk
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https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/cruise-ship-demolition-photos-aliaga-turkey/index.html
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Another update in Aliaga, Turkey. https://www.instagram.com/p/CGamrDZJ277/?igshid=5idoueacr6uw
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Here's a update in Aliaga. https://www.instagram.com/p/CGiNRfbJ312/?igshid=caxvx2qnzsf0
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Royal Caribbean Group is considering selling ships to survive the pandemic and get money. I suspect that the Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas are on the chopping block (meaning the vessels could be sold or scrapped) as they're currently the oldest vessels in the RCI fleet due to Sovereign and Monarch already been sold to Aliaga. I also suspect that Royal Caribbean will also sell or scrap the Vision class as they're smaller and older, though not as old as Empress and Majesty. Anyways, here is the link:
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23779-royal-caribbean-may-still-consider-opportunistic-ship-sales.html
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Looking at recent photos and videos at Aliaga, it's obvious that they barely have started on Pullmantur Monarch. In fact, she still looks mostly intact. The Sovereign, on the other hand, is a goner. Maybe they're waiting to fully scrap Sovereign before they work on Monarch. Maybe there's still a chance to save her before they start to cut her up.
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Scrapping a ship is not a five-minute job. Before the cutting torches set to work on the ship's exterior, there's a lot of gear that can be salvaged (and resold) from the interior - especially so on a cruise ship
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Scrapping a ship is not a five-minute job. Before the cutting torches set to work on the ship's exterior, there's a lot of geaqr that can be salvaged (and resold) from the interior - especially so on a cruise ship
BTW, both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas are both in cold lay-up in Souda, Greece with Pullmantur Horizon. It's obviously that the three vessels are likely to sail to Aliaga soon, even though RCI is denying it.
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BTW, both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas are both in cold lay-up in Souda, Greece with Pullmantur Horizon. It's obviously that the three vessels are likely to sail to Aliaga soon, even though RCI is denying it.
HORIZON is in Eleusis Bay, not Souda.
EMPRESS OF THE SEAS and MAJESTY OF THE SEAS are not in "COLD" lay-up, they are crewed, with engines running etc. Currently, EMPRESS OF THE SEAS is doing 5 knots to the east of Souda Bay, so definitely not cold.
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Today, after months of denial, Royal Caribbean has sadly confirmed that the Empress of the Seas and the Majesty of the Seas have been sold off. Although the buyer wasn't mentioned, it's very likely that they were for scrap in Aliaga, Turkey where their sister ships Pullmantur Sovereign and Pullmantur Monarch are already being scrapped. Here are the links.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24060-michael-bayley-and-vicki-freed-say-goodbye-to-two-royal-caribbean-ships.html
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/12/16/royal-caribbean-has-sold-majesty-of-the-seas-and-empress-of-the-seas
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According to Royal Caribbean's statement, which can be read here: https://www.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1487/royal-caribbeans-empress-and-majesty-of-the-seas-set-to-depart-fleet/ (https://www.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1487/royal-caribbeans-empress-and-majesty-of-the-seas-set-to-depart-fleet/)
"the ships have been sold to an undisclosed party, based in Asia-Pacific, that will release details for future sailings at a later time."
So I doubt they are going to Aliaga.
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EMPRESS OF THE SEAS heading for Emmanuel's camera, ETA Valletta 18/12 early morning.
Maybe MAJESTY OF THE SEAS will follow; at present still anchored at Souda Bay.
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Update from Aliaga. Sovereign's funnel is now gone. https://www.instagram.com/p/CI9cZUeBH4c/?igshid=1q0kikhl3meg6
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EMPRESS OF THE SEAS now back at Souda Bay (near MAJESTY OF THE SEAS) after brief stop offshore NE Malta. No apparent change of flag.
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Jalesh Cruises (the same cruise line that got rid of their only vessel Karnika) has confirmed that they bought the Empress of the Seas. They bought her because she is smaller in size and capacity than the Karnika. They haven't confirmed if they also bought Majesty of the Seas, but they did say that they plan to acquire a second vessel soon.
I doubt they'll enter Majesty of the Seas into the fleet. I suspect that, because her sister ships Pullmantur Sovereign and Pullmantur Monarch already have been sold for scrap to Aliaga and because the similar size Karnika was sold for scrap, that they'll resell Majesty of the Seas to Alang, India which will end the Sovereign-class forever. Here are the links.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24117-former-royal-caribbean-ship-empress-of-the-seas-sold-to-indian-startup.html
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/12/27/report-indian-cruise-line-new-owner-of-empress-of-the-seas
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Jalesh Cruises (the same cruise line that got rid of their only vessel Karnika) has confirmed that they bought the Empress of the Seas. They bought her because she is smaller in size and capacity than the Karnika. They haven't confirmed if they also bought Majesty of the Seas, but they did say that they plan to acquire a second vessel soon.
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24117-former-royal-caribbean-ship-empress-of-the-seas-sold-to-indian-startup.html
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/12/27/report-indian-cruise-line-new-owner-of-empress-of-the-seas
A update to this. While the executives of Jalesh Cruises did buy the Empress of the Seas, they won't be use her to restart the Jalesh Cruises brand. Instead, they'll use her for a new cruise line called Cordelia Cruises. Here is another link.
https://www.cruisehive.com/former-royal-caribbean-ship-to-sail-for-new-cordelia-cruises/44853
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The former Pullmantur Ocean Dream has arrived in Alang, India. More information here. http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,17104.0.html
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Majesty of the Seas has been renamed to Majesty. This hints that she will sail to Alang, India.
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Well I do not want to disappoint you but we will see more cruise ships to be scrapped very soon. Aliaga will start buying new cruise ships in this year.
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I don't know if it was mentioned here before, but those of you who are interested in Pullmantur's late SOVEREIGN might like to have a look at the 2018 Spanish comedy YUCAT
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Update from Aliaga, Sovereign's scrapping will finish soon. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJtI07upnSY/?igshid=uu1lsun7xi8l
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Empress of the Seas is once again just Empress. Majesty of the Seas is now just Majesty. The name change is making me think that they're likely going to the shipbreakers.
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The New York-based Dream Hotel Group has purchased Empress of the Seas and she is to be operated by their Mumbai-based subsidiary Waterways Leisure Tourism. Waterways Leisure have taken over the former Jalesh Cruises and will relaunch under the name, Cordelia Cruises, Empress of the Seas will be given a new name and employed on the Indian cruise market.
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The New York-based Dream Hotel Group has purchased Empress of the Seas and she is to be operated by their Mumbai-based subsidiary Waterways Leisure Tourism. Waterways Leisure have taken over the former Jalesh Cruises and will relaunch under the name, Cordelia Cruises, Empress of the Seas will be given a new name and employed on the Indian cruise market.
Yes, but she has been temporary renamed to Empress, according to her AIS.
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Empress of the Seas is once again just Empress. Majesty of the Seas is now just Majesty. The name change is making me think that they're likely going to the shipbreakers.
The "of the Seas" part of their name is a Royal Caribbean Trademark. So any ship sold by them would have to drop it as soon as the ship left the fleet. That's why they are suddenly Empress and Majesty pending their rename by their new owners.
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Royal Caribbean is selling Azamara Cruises and it's vessels to a private company https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/royal-caribbean-to-sell-azamara-luxury-cruise-line-for-201-million-11611063900
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Royal Caribbean is selling Azamara Cruises and it's vessels to a private company https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/royal-caribbean-to-sell-azamara-luxury-cruise-line-for-201-million-11611063900
Update: Royal Caribbean has sold Azamara Club Cruises to Sycamore Partners for $201 million. Here are the links:
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24220-royal-caribbean-to-sell-azamara-brand-to-sycamore-partners.html
https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24225-cabezas-azamara-sale-is-a-win-win-win.html
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Having bought the company and its ships for what is regarded as a bargain price we can just hope that they have some spare cash available to buy the lone R-class ship still out there, Pacific Princess, and bring her back to her sisters.
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Having bought the company and its ships for what is regarded as a bargain price we can just hope that they have some spare cash available to buy the lone R-class ship still out there, Pacific Princess, and bring her back to her sisters.
Are you worried that the Pacific Princess could be sold for scrap? I don't think that's possible. She's not that old, but her being in the Azamara fleet does make sense as half of the R-Class would belong to Azamara if that were to happen. Besides, the other four R-Class vessels belong to Oceana Cruises, so that could be something.
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Are you worried that the Pacific Princess could be sold for scrap? I don't think that's possible. She's not that old, but her being in the Azamara fleet does make sense as half of the R-Class would belong to Azamara if that were to happen. Besides, the other four R-Class vessels belong to Oceana Cruises, so that could be something.
No, I was not worried about her being sold for scrap, though I disagree with you regarding such a thing being not possible. In these uncertain times anything is possible. Remember, the R-class ships are now around 20 years old. For several years I have wondered why Princess has retained her in their fleet, she does not fit in their fleet of huge ships at all. Oceania would not want to acquire her, being focussed on new tonnage. Azamara would not have bought her whilst they were under Royal Caribbean ownership (they were much more focussed on the Silverseas brand). So now that Azamara has new owners this might be an ideal opportunity for Princess to dispose of the odd ship in the fleet and an opportunity for her to be acquired for maybe a not very high price.
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Having bought the company and its ships for what is regarded as a bargain price we can just hope that they have some spare cash available to buy the lone R-class ship still out there, Pacific Princess, and bring her back to her sisters.
Are you worried that the Pacific Princess could be sold for scrap? I don't think that's possible. She's not that old, but her being in the Azamara fleet does make sense as half of the R-Class would belong to Azamara if that were to happen. Besides, the other four R-Class vessels belong to Oceana Cruises, so that could be something.
No, I was not worried about her being sold for scrap, though I disagree with you regarding such a thing being not possible. In these uncertain times anything is possible. Remember, the R-class ships are now around 20 years old. For several years I have wondered why Princess has retained her in their fleet, she does not fit in their fleet of huge ships at all. Oceania would not want to acquire her, being focussed on new tonnage. Azamara would not have bought her whilst they were under Royal Caribbean ownership (they were much more focussed on the Silverseas brand). So now that Azamara has new owners this might be an ideal opportunity for Princess to dispose of the odd ship in the fleet and an opportunity for her to be acquired for maybe a not very high price.
Yeah, it makes sense that Azamara could now buy the Pacific Princess. Even though the R-Class is now 20 years old, they have been updated. Most vessels being scrapped are in their 30's or 40s, so the R-Class would be safe for at least 10 more years.
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Cordelia Cruises hasn't responded to anything about the Majesty of the Seas and she is still laid up in Greece. I suspect that they may be or are selling her for scrap.
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Cordelia Cruises hasn't responded to anything about the Majesty of the Seas and she is still laid up in Greece. I suspect that they may be or are selling her for scrap.
It is my understanding that Cordelia Cruises were 'only' acquiring Empress of the Seas. The Indian cruise market is in its infancy so I cannot imagine there would even be the need for them to take on a second vessel, especially at this time - even it is available at a give away price.
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Cordelia Cruises hasn't responded to anything about the Majesty of the Seas and she is still laid up in Greece. I suspect that they may be or are selling her for scrap.
It is my understanding that Cordelia Cruises were 'only' acquiring Empress of the Seas. The Indian cruise market is in its infancy so I cannot imagine there would even be the need for them to take on a second vessel, especially at this time - even it is available at a give away price.
But when Royal Carribbean sold Majesty and Empress, thay had said that they were both sold to 'an undisclosed buyer in Asia'. Cordelia Cruises later confirmed that they did acquire Empress from Royal Caribbean, so it makes sense that they also bought Majesty. But why not announce it? Are they waiting to see if Empress does well in India after the Karnika fiasco to put Majesty in service or are they trying to resell her to another cruise line or even for scrap. Majesty is still laid up in Souda, Greece and it's not that far from Aliaga, Turkey so maybe she'll sail there, but we just got to wait and see.
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Cordelia Cruises hasn't responded to anything about the Majesty of the Seas and she is still laid up in Greece. I suspect that they may be or are selling her for scrap.
It is my understanding that Cordelia Cruises were 'only' acquiring Empress of the Seas. The Indian cruise market is in its infancy so I cannot imagine there would even be the need for them to take on a second vessel, especially at this time - even it is available at a give away price.
But when Royal Carribbean sold Majesty and Empress, thay had said that they were both sold to 'an undisclosed buyer in Asia'. Cordelia Cruises later confirmed that they did acquire Empress from Royal Caribbean, so it makes sense that they also bought Majesty. But why not announce it? Are they waiting to see if Empress does well in India after the Karnika fiasco to put Majesty in service or are they trying to resell her to another cruise line or even for scrap. Majesty is still laid up in Souda, Greece and it's not that far from Aliaga, Turkey so maybe she'll sail there, but we just got to wait and see.
I suspect that they're going to sell Majesty for scrap.
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Sovereign has been nearly reduced to her keel. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKoP6mAJZLD/?igshid=1jy855q49b5gd
Not much work has been done onto Monarch. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKoPz00pqkl/?igshid=23e53lvjttj
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Majesty (of the Seas) arrived at Piraeus Port .Still unknown the reason why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbv0qGGxuFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbv0qGGxuFY)
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Majesty (of the Seas) arrived at Piraeus Port .Still unknown the reason why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbv0qGGxuFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbv0qGGxuFY)
The last remaining Sovereign-class vessel. Her fate doesn't seem bright. Considering her age and her selling situation, It's very likely that she will join her sisters on the shipbreaking beaches of Aliaga, Turkey.
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Majesty (of the Seas) arrived at Piraeus Port .Still unknown the reason why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbv0qGGxuFY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbv0qGGxuFY)
The last remaining Sovereign-class vessel. Her fate doesn't seem bright. Considering her age and her selling situation, It's very likely that she will join her sisters on the shipbreaking beaches of Aliaga, Turkey.
If her new owners did resell her for scrap, I suspect that they're waiting for Sovereign's scrapping to be finished so Majesty can sail to Aliaga and take her sister's spot in the shipbreakers.
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Cordelia Cruises may have resold Majesty of the Seas to Seajets. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24313-did-seajets-buy-the-majesty-of-the-seas-from-royal-caribbean.html
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Cordelia Cruises may have resold Majesty of the Seas to Seajets. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24313-did-seajets-buy-the-majesty-of-the-seas-from-royal-caribbean.html
Well it's confirmed, SeaJets did by Majesty of the Seas from Cordelia Cruises. However, they don't intend to hold onto the ship according to a source. Many are suspecting that SeaJets are going to or is in the process of selling the vessel to the Aliaga shipbreakers, the same place where her sister ships Pullmantur Sovereign and Pullmantur Monarch already being scrapped. Here is the link: https://www.cruisehive.com/is-majesty-of-the-seas-going-to-be-scrapped/46808
Honestly, I think they're waiting for the scrapping of Pullmantur Sovereign to conclude so that Majesty can sail to Aliaga and take her spot to be scrapped. After all, they were the largest cruise ships from 1988 to 1991 but are now 30 years old. It's sad to see them go, but the pandemic has forced companies to shed older vessels.
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The scrapping of the Pullmantur Sovereign has been finished. She is now just a memory. https://youtu.be/H6gMoMWfJtA
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Update from Aliaga, Sovereign's spot is still empty. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CL3olqXJhMG/?igshid=i62u3kozf8l7
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Update on Majesty. https://www.tradewindsnews.com/cruise-and-ferry/cruiseship-sold-by-royal-caribbean-emerges-in-fleet-of-greeces-marios-iliopoulos/2-1-985218
The article confirms that Cordelia Cruises bought the vessel alongside Empress, but resold her to SeaJets. SeaJets are also considering selling her for scrap for 13 million. If they do sell Majesty to Aliaga, it will be the end of the Sovereign class.
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Update from Aliaga, Monarch's scrapping has began. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CNVFGaSp-uW/?igshid=1xq2nehoyxudk
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I suspect that SeaJets is going to sell Majesty for scrap.
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Maybe, but a bit strange as they have just taken the trouble to rename her MAJESTY OF THE OCEANS.
https://arxipelagos.gr/majesty-of-the-oceans-το-νέο-όνομα-του-majesty/ (https://arxipelagos.gr/majesty-of-the-oceans-το-νέο-όνομα-του-majesty/)
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Yes, and painted on properly rather than in a hasty manner, as is usually the case for a ship about to head off to the scrap yard.
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Yes, and painted on properly rather than in a hasty manner, as is usually the case for a ship about to head off to the scrap yard.
Maybe they're trying to make her look nice before she goes.
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Surely Royal Caribbean would not allow name to be "Name" of the Seas after it had been sold ?
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Interesting that Seajets now appear to have three ships renamed AEGEAN ... (MYTH, MAJESTY and GODDESS) and two named ... OF THE SEAS (QUEEN, MAJESTY). There appear to be two groups being established and perhaps there are two plans under consideration. Fascinating!
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It is Queen of the Oceans and Majesty of the Oceans ...... not 'of the Seas.'
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Yes, thanks Clive. My silly error in writing quickly! Still fascinating there appear to be two groups and what might happen to the five ships.
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Personally, I think that with those seemingly thoughtful renaming of the ships there is at least an intention of a future of further trading for them. If they had been acquired just in order to turn a fast buck at the breakers yard then why go to the bother of such renaming?
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I tend to agree with you Clive and thanks for rectifying the name issue... and as you said, not sloppily painted over either...however, one can never tell with SeaJets...
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I agree and it is the point I was trying to make - rather clumsily given my error re names! Further plans seem quite possible - the 3 AEGEANs would probably seem most immediately employable perhaps whereas the other two might be seen as a bit of a strange duo. Why go to the trouble of renaming as they have if they plan to sell for scrap?
On this renaming matter, can anyone suggest why the announced fourth Azamara vessel has been renamed P PRINCE. Is this them waiting for financing or does it suggest the plan has fallen through?
would be interested in thoughts.
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I have not heard anything untoward regarding Azamara and their acquisition of Pacific Princess. I would take a guess this is a holding name until the purchase has been completed.
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Recently received an email, video clip included from Azamara announcing Azamara Onward to debut in 2022. I suspect Clive is correct and this is a holding name until she is handed over. The clip is quite clever it incorporates journey, quest and pursuit in announcing Azamara Onward.
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Thank you both for this feedback.
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Update from Aliaga, Monarch's bow is gone. https://www.instagram.com/p/COhluB0qAbU/
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Unconfirmed report that MAJESTY OF THE OCEANS was moved last month from Piraeus to Eleusis Bay
AEGEAN GODDESS departed Piraeus 3/6 and arrived Iraklion a few days ago for further lay-up.
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Unconfirmed report that MAJESTY OF THE OCEANS was moved last month from Piraeus to Eleusis Bay
AEGEAN GODDESS departed Piraeus 3/6 and arrived Iraklion a few days ago for further lay-up.
Source?
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Source?
Can that cruise ship in the attached screenshot from latest Sentinel-2 satellite photograph be anything but Majesty of the Oceans? The vessel appeared alongside the tankers/bulkers sometime between 13 and 20 May; unfortunately due to cloud cover it's impossible to give more exact date.
Aegean Goddess, on the other hand, is transmitting fresh AIS.
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Unconfirmed report that MAJESTY OF THE OCEANS was moved last month from Piraeus to Eleusis Bay
AEGEAN GODDESS departed Piraeus 3/6 and arrived Iraklion a few days ago for further lay-up.
Source?
Can that cruise ship in the attached screenshot from latest Sentinel-2 satellite photograph be anything but Majesty of the Oceans? The vessel appeared alongside the tankers/bulkers sometime between 13 and 20 May; unfortunately due to cloud cover it's impossible to give more exact date.
Aegean Goddess, on the other hand, is transmitting fresh AIS.
Looks like Majesty of the $
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Majesty of the Oceans was moved to Eleusis indeed. It was reported on a Greek facebook group and these guys usually have their info correct.