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Title: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 09, 2011, 04:21:46 PM
In the unlikely event of everything running smoothly, Eliza is pencilled in to berth 11th Pm Tide. Sks Satilla 10:00/10th.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: ChasB46 on November 09, 2011, 04:41:59 PM
Hi Spanner, do you mean high water? Nit-picking but tide is the rise and fall of the water.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 09, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
Tide generally means High Tide. There is Torm Mathilde inbound as well in next few days, which will also be tidal so Eliza may be delayed if they require Torm Mathilde before Eliza.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Allan RO on November 09, 2011, 10:30:26 PM
Hi Spanner


Is the Torm not a product tanker ? So will more likely go on E4.

Allan
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 09, 2011, 10:38:17 PM
Yes it is Product vessel, It is not the berth that was the problem, I was thinking more of the tide, ie both will need high water.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Kelvin Davies on November 10, 2011, 07:37:25 AM
According to VTS this morning; no problem.
Torm Mathilde is coming in on the evening tide.
Sorry Chas, I mean high water!
Kelvin
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 10, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Torm Mathilde not booked to berth yet, Eliza Fri 11th pm, Montego Sunday 13th Midday so maybe the high tide on Sunday night.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on November 10, 2011, 10:14:04 PM
VTS now showing both Eliza & Torm eta PM 13/11

rgds
Andrew
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 11, 2011, 01:19:14 AM
Just noticed that, maybe delayed in its 1st discharge port
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 14, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
Eliza looks like due to arrive at Nab from Le Harve on 15th. Torm Mathilde berthing tonight at Esso 5, It wont discharge they will move it to Esso 4 somewhen, it is just a move to save a tide and time, and more important money.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 17, 2011, 09:45:37 PM
Possible Eliza will berth Wednesday 23rd
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Allan RO on November 17, 2011, 10:50:04 PM
Hi Spanner

Thanks a long time to wait  -  hopefully the weather might improve by then !!   Why the long wait - is it a different type of crude ?   I understood Middle East crude has more 'heavy ends' than North Sea or Russian.

Allan
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Allan RO on November 18, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
Hi Guys

Soton VTS now reckons 03:45 Saturday morning, get the Infra-Red film in !!!

Allan
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 18, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
Yes looks like things may have changed and Eliza is booked to arrive at Fawley at 0345 tonight/19th
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Kelvin Davies on November 18, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
It looks like a tight squeeze somewhere the Hook and Isle of Wight with Karen Knutsen due to go at 00:45.
I noticed that, true to form, there is no departure date for Eliza. It will have to budge up a bit as Suez Vasilis is due on Esso 5 on the 22nd.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 18, 2011, 08:27:19 PM
I dont think VTS says that the Suez Valsilas is berthing on 22nd, it says it is arriving in the VTS area on the 22nd! Nab anchorage. On the plus side you may need Infa red lense for the Eliza arriving but should leave mid day on Sunday.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 19, 2011, 01:52:24 AM
At last some good news. Eliza berthing 1000/19 Daylight!
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Kelvin Davies on November 19, 2011, 07:31:35 AM
Spotted that. That's changed my plans for today.
Wake up Messrs Onions & Betts etc!
See you down there no doubt.
Kelvin
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Allan RO on November 19, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
Hi Guys

At one a.m. this morning Southampton VTS was still showing Eliza arriving as 03:45.  Woke up this a.m. to see she is stll on the way in.  Talk about bloody useless, they must have known that the timing had changed, but not updated the movements page.

If you get a shot Kelvin, Send me a stern one for Scanner !!!

A very disgruntled Allan 
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Kelvin Davies on November 19, 2011, 05:00:32 PM
Hi Allan,
Oh dear! I must admit I made it by the skin of my teeth.
"10.00 at the Hook; leave home at around 08:30, get there 09:30. No problem."
Got held up on the road between Totton and the Hythe turning by a bloody tractor but still go there at 09:25.
Chas and Trevor were there and so was the tanker! Approaching the Black Jack buoy.
Still, other than the fact I went all that way for one ship, it turned out OK.
You might get another chance tomorrow as it is due out in the morning.
It was virtually empty when it arrived, coming in on the low tide. I remarked to Chas they could probably discharge it with a couple of buckets!

By the way, for Spanner, VTS does show Suez Vasilis berthing on the 22nd. Mind you, it also shows Sallie Knutsen berthing at the same berth and the same time.
In fact, tomorrow looks a bit busy with both Zallaq and Montego due on berth 5 together!
Happy days!
Kelvin
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 19, 2011, 06:41:23 PM
Thats strange my VTS shows Suez Vasilia arriving 22nd from Le Harve at the Nab, no berthing time to berth 5. Still what do I know!
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Kelvin Davies on November 19, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
Wonderful really, isn't it? (Alice in Wonderful, that is!).
I just checked the 19:10 version and it still shows From Le Havre, via the Nab berthing at number 5 with Sallie Knutsen via the Nab also on number 5. Both listed as AM.
Still, VTS also shows an LPG tanker Joan arriving on number 1 tomorrow morning. Sadly, Knightsbridge has been on that berth since yesterday and according to VTS is leaving it the day after Joan arrives.
Couldn't make it up, could you?
Kelvin
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 19, 2011, 10:48:06 PM
I don't think you are reading the VTS movements correctly! An arrival date does not mean the day it is going to berth only its arrival at anchorage! In the case of movements inbound to Fawley when a time appears is when a pilot has been booked and the time is its arrival at hook buoy. Therefore you can have several ships arriving at the same time. Departure times are generally a little less reliable as sometimes posted by agents and not the terminal itself.
 Eliza should depart Sunday afternoon, around 13-1500
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on November 19, 2011, 11:05:02 PM
Hi All,

Lets just say i was as annoyed as Allan this morning!! I checked VTS last noight and she was showing 0345 so thought thats fine can go to the pub continue painting tomorrow and maybe she will sail in daylight, what as surprise i had when at 0930am i though lets have a check on vts and AIS only to see her on her way in! VTS as reliable as always again!

Thankyou Spanner for the info on arrivals as I always wondered why more than one ship shows arriving at no. 5 at the same time, so there are plkenty at anchor waiting to come in. Just hope Eliza sails on time tomorrow lets just say I will be checking vts often tomorrow!!

Rgds
Andrew 
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 19, 2011, 11:34:53 PM
It was updated on vts last night in the small hours when most people are asleep. The problem was the late departure of the previous vessel.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: David Walker on November 21, 2011, 09:57:07 AM
Hi Spanner,

Thanks for the information over the weekend -- she sailed bang on time in perfect light while all the yachties were having lunch.  Can't ask for more than that!

Cheers,
David.
Title: Re: VLCC update Fawley
Post by: spanner on November 21, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
David
 No Problem, I keep ear to ground if anymore big ones are due. There are a few non regular ones due soon, but not VLCC. Glen Maye, not sure if been at Fawley before.