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Offline Kelvin Davies

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2015, 07:01:34 PM »
So there we have it. Hoegh have said in a press conference that the ship developed a list while leaving Southampton and was grounded on the bank deliberately as the safest option.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2015, 07:04:40 PM »
There we have it Kelvin, so why does a ship like this develop a list in calm conditions and sheltered waters.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 08:08:15 PM »
@Allan.  How?  One suggestion by Malim Sahib below.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2015, 08:15:23 PM »
Good evening!

Hoegh Osaka carrying 1,400 cars.

According to www.marinetraffic.com the vessel left Southampton and made a sharp left turn and run aground. Please see below AIS-card published by the "DAILY MAIL".

Interesting (and curious) Photo of grounded HOEGH OSAKA on wikipedia:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Hoegh_Osaka_Bramble_Bank.JPG

Think we have to wait until MAIB-Report is published:

http://www.maib.gov.uk/latest_news/hoegh_osaka.cfm

"Daily Mail" reports as follows: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2895837/Car-transporter-cargo-ship-runs-aground-Isle-Wight.html

regards Peter
« Last Edit: January 04, 2015, 08:32:06 PM by PHa »

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2015, 08:34:26 PM »
Watching the press conference, I think Hoegh chairman said there was a ballast or fuel transfer in hand when the list developed. The similar vessel Cougar Ace developed a 60 degree list when transferring ballast off the Aleutian Islands about 8 year ago, so it is a matter of record how tender these top heavy looking car carriers are, although it is hard to imagine how a crew member would continue a transfer operation when it was clearly all turning to ratsxxx. But it has happened before. If that was the cause of the imbalance on Hoegh Osaka, it would be exacerbated by the sharp turn to port to round the end of Bramble Bank, and this would depend on the speed at the time. Has anyone got a plot of the ships speed? Sewol capsized and sank with heavy loss of life due to the third mate executing a sharp turn with an unstable vessel. Can't think of any other act of man that would have caused the list. Would the ship leave the dock with little water ballast to minimise draught with the intention of taking more on as soon as in clear water, does this happen?
Alternatively, could something mechanical have caused the list, hard to imagine a hole suddenly developing or an open valve having sufficient effect on stability? A factor that mitigates against poor stability is that the ship was only on third loaded with cars, presumably on the lower decks. But perhaps not, they could have been all up top for the short sea crossing to Germany.
Turning to the cargo, there was an excellent TV programme recently of the largest car carrier operating out of Southampton to the Far East with a cargo of Rolls Royces etc, and they went to enormous lengths to tie each one down. On Cougar Ace, despite a 60 degree list, only a few hundred out of 4713 broke free and were damaged, despite which Mazda scrapped the lot. I wonder if HC's cars have all slid down to the lower side? If so, this will make re-righting much more difficult.
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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2015, 11:26:43 PM »
On the left is the course which I captured from MarineTraffic this morning - but I did not note the speeds.  On the right is the more limited data available now to non-subscribers, but enough speeds to give an indication.

Speeding up into the turn. Hmmm.  The pilot-master interchange may make interesting reading.

David
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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2015, 12:39:59 AM »
I'm wondering,if the vessel had a pilot on the bridge.I'm not familar with Southampton because i never was there,so my question might be stupid. As far as i remember the pilotstation is close to the Nab Tower.....
Thanks in advance for the answer.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2015, 01:00:48 AM »
Yes, a pilot is required.
http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/Pilotage/Pilotage_Directions/

RNLI reported "All 24 crew members aboard the vessel were rescued and returned to safety. Some crew were airlifted from the vessel by the Lee on Solent Rescue 104 Coastguard helicopter and Rescue 169 helicopter from RAF Chivenor. Two Southampton VTS pilots were also on board the ship." 
http://rnli.org/NewsCentre/Pages/RNLI-lifeboats-join-multiagency-rescue-in-the-Solent.aspx
As 'Tony1' reported yesterday, the pilot of the inward TUGELA was transferred to HOEGH OSAKA after the grounding.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2015, 04:13:19 PM »
Getting interesting now (Wednesday 16:00).
Svitzer had a plan to refloat the Osaka today at mid-day then late last night they cancelled this as they had found more water in the vessel than they had first thought. The operation was postponed until the next weather window, which could be a while as the weather is getting worse by the day. Then, at around 15:00 today I noticed a couple of Sviter tugs in a hurry coming from Southampton. Now it emerges the vessel refloated anyway, with no external help. Having started swingin, the tugs pushed and pulled to return the ship to the original position on the bank and currently there as 7 tugs pulling toward the East.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2015, 04:38:45 PM »
Hoegh Osaka now at Alpha anchorage. 500 metre exclusion zone + 2000 metre above re quadcopters etc. Will be illuminated throughout hours of darkness by tugs.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2015, 05:03:27 PM »
And I bet there's a bunch of people sitting around saying "How did that happen?"
Good news though. Now man the pumps and get it back for a thorough wash and dry!

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2015, 05:24:57 PM »
What I take to be a wreck buoy laid by Trinity House's GALATEA on Monday will presumably be taken away or moved; it continues to give out the AIS signal for "WRECK - IMO 9185463"

Seems to be LOMAX, PHENIX, VORTEX, SVITZER SARAH and SVITZER SURREY; with support from WILLSUPPLY and WILLVENTURE II, and navigational protection from SP PATHFINDER.  Have there been others earlier today?

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2015, 05:47:32 PM »
Seems very odd that the vessel had always been described as 'secured' on the Bramble Bank, but managed to self-refloat and enter the main shipping channel - it simply beggers belief and a very good thing that a fully laden crude tanker was not coming in to Fawley at the time.  I think someone must be smiling down on the Solent.

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2015, 06:15:10 PM »
Latest Notice to Mariners re buoys and temporary exclusion zone http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/admin/content/files/NTMs/2015%20No%2004%28T%29.pdf

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Re: Hoegh Osaka Aground Off The Isle Of Wight
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2015, 12:56:19 AM »
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