Hapag Lloyd MV. Bavaria and Borussia

[Jan Koppen]

Gents
Have been working in Amsterdam harbour between 1980/1984.
Have been working o/b MV. Bavaria and Borussia quite often.
What happend with these ships.
Where were they scrapped?

Hope to hear from you when time permits.

Jan Koppen
Amsterdam

[Joerg Seyler]

Hello Jan,

BAVARIA: Broken up, to Taiwan breakers and arrived at Kaohsiung prior to 30/12/86. Date work began 13/01/87.
BORUSSIA: Broken up, to Taiwan breakers and arrived at Kaohsiung 14/01/87. Date work began 22/01/87.

Best regards from Hamburg
Joerg

[Jan Koppen]

Joerg

Thanks info.

Which other same vessel as the Bavaria en Borussia were active during 1980/85 with Hapag Lloyd.?

I can not remember the names anymore but I still know these ships were already in the '80s a bit old.
They sailed with a German officers en Indonesian crewmembers mainly to Indonesia and Manaus in Brasil.

Jan Koppen
Holland
Amsterdam

[Joerg Seyler]

Hello Jan,


perhaps ...

WESTFALIA , IMO 6421658 , http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=6421658&x=16&y=11

HAMMONIA , IMO 6510605 , http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=6510605&x=26&y=7

ALEMANNIA , IMO 6515332 , http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=6515332&x=9&y=12

HOLSATIA , IMO 6616875 , http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=6616875&x=19&y=12

THURINGIA , IMO 6706539 , http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=6706539&x=25&y=5


Joerg

[Jan Koppen]

Joerg

Yep........... that were the names
Westfalia etc.

Thanks for dusting off my memory.

Best regards Jan Koppen

[Uwe Springhorn]

Jan,

Westfalia was engaged in the South-America West Coast Service, all other "-ia" vessels were in Indonesia Trade. The vessel which has gone up the Amazonas was perhaps "Heidelberg", one of 10 "West-India" Vessels. In the early 80s only "Heidelberg", "Hannover" and "Goslar/ex Frankfurt" were left with Hapag-Lloyd, if I remember correctly. It well may be that we met in Amsterdam in 1981 when I was there with "Goslar" or 1980 with "Borussia" 

Best Regards
Uwe

[Jan Koppen]

Uwe gutentag

That's correct the Heidelberg was one of the ships who were often in Amsterdam with Muller & Co AG and CTA, next to Borussia, Bavaria, Thuringia etc.

I can remember a German radio-operator (complete in kaki out-fit) who told us very interestign stories about the sailing operation with the Hapag ships on the Amazons towards Manuas.
By the way I found out that we also handled oftern the Friesenstein, Schwalbenstein in AMS. They also sailed to S/A mainly to Antofagasta, Callao, Valparaiso and other far away/exotic places.

These ships were the last of the bulk express ships. Far more interesing then then the containership. Sadly everything is scrapped by now.

Danke

Jan Koppen
Amsterdam