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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2012, 10:51:56 am »

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Am in total shock!! Was this on Friday 13th?? That looks like a boulder
Wedged into the side!! How on earth in this day in age could this happen???

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 11:14:44 am »

It was only a matter of time before something like this happened to a large cruise ship - just be thankful it happened close to shore and not mid ocean.
I wouldn't be horrifically surprised to see this caused by too many people putting far too much faith in Bridge electronics - as is scarily common today, almost approaching 'the norm'.

The Carnival empire employ a bridge management system called BTCC which is similar to the way aircraft work in that it has a Pilot/Co-Pilot concept, plus (going into Port) the Old Man, Navigator, Staff Captain and numerous ratings on the bridge, all supposed to be feeding information to each other and cross checking each other. That falls down of course, if you're all staring into the same ECDIS screen which is chucking out an erroneous position and nobody is looking out of the window.

Questions will also be asked about why she rolled over - being a new ship, she will have been designed to the latest (and very strict) damage stability standards - hull subdivision and the ability to cross flood is supposed to minimise the possibility of capsize.

Saying that, I know a Naval Architect who designs Super Yachts for a living but also conducts salvage operations, and his opinion is that if 'Titanic' had been designed with the same subdivision rules as modern ships then she wouldn't have slowly sunk by the head, but would have capsized and sank far quicker than she did.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 11:57:46 am »

Latest pictures on the BBC are here...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16560050
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 11:59:11 am »

all i hope is that everyone that survived makes a good recovery and that the ship can be repaired and refloated
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 12:18:22 pm »

Last news.30 more crew members trapped in the vessel interior and rescue operation is still in progress
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2012, 01:27:01 pm »

sadly 50-70 peaople reported missing now
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2012, 01:44:09 pm »

I hope they have some air inside the vessel
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2012, 02:19:49 pm »

Regarding survivability of damage to her port side. Some reports say that there is a gash of 70 metres in her shell plating below the waterline. That would be consistent with hitting a pinnacle or rock with some speed.

Normally passenger vessels are calculated with a 3 compartment damage scenario, meaning 3 adjacent compartments flooded. However it is almost certain that a 70 metre damage length exceeds the distance between two transverse bulkheads (resulting in 3 compartments flooded). More likely that 4 or 5 adjacent compartments were flooded, beyond survivability of the vessel.

On the bridge this would have been visible with the bilge alarm system, so the captain would have known his ship was doomed and headed inshore. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2012, 02:26:42 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ownv5cMYDkg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55dqD-GJeaE

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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 02:43:39 pm »

My firts thought tonight when a hear the vessel had 20 list and taking on water was the Sea Diamond accident. Sank of Santorini, Creece april 2007.
It took a long time to evacuate the passangers of Sea Diamond and now with twice the number of passengers.

From the accident investigation report of M/S Estonia you learn it´s a terrifying caos. You can hardly move around on a listing ship with the large open spaces.

According to Wikipedia Sea Diamond sank after it struck a wrongly marked obstruction.
Perhaps the VDR (black box) can help understand what happened.


 
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 04:12:11 pm »

Have just seen on TV here that she has capsized. About a third of the hull is above water. But she is on her side.

Shades of the Herald of Free Enterprise...

What an appalling situation to be caught up in.

Is this the biggest passenger ship casualty of all time? Must be.



The biggest passenger ship casualty is the sinking of Wilhelm Gustloff on January 30, 1945. Over 9,000 dead...
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2012, 04:43:48 pm »

Have just seen on TV here that she has capsized. About a third of the hull is above water. But she is on her side.

Shades of the Herald of Free Enterprise...

What an appalling situation to be caught up in.

Is this the biggest passenger ship casualty of all time? Must be.



The biggest passenger ship casualty is the sinking of Wilhelm Gustloff on January 30, 1945. Over 9,000 dead...

I think he may have been referring to ship size, in which case, this is likely the largest passenger ship so far to "sink."
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2012, 04:45:52 pm »

Ah, ok, thanks Kyle. My fault then, I misunderstood!
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2012, 04:57:42 pm »

Concordia has a rock the size a of a house embedded in her starboard (upper) side. Unbelievable!
Also, as the damage is to the starboard side, why has she settled on the port side?
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2012, 05:14:43 pm »

Hi,

That´s a good question, but for now the details arte scarce.

I´d like to know more before say something...

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