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Pieter Inpyn
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« on: October 06, 2010, 10:52:45 am »

Hello,

yard Kherson built four artic supply vessels for Russian firms:
Ivan Papanin, 1990, #6001, still sailing as such
Aleksander Sledzuk, 1992 #6002, now ICE MAIDEN I (recently towed away for demolision?)
Snow Dragon, 1993, #6003, now Chinese XUE LONG
unknown, 2003 ? #6004, now at Mexico for reconstruction into offshore-vessel

Did #6003 en #6004 also have a Russian (intended) name?
What is the present name of #6004 and IMO?
Any help much appreciated! Searching internet and many paper reference works did not give me the answers.

Regards, Pieter Inpyn.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 06:13:35 am »

Holy necropost, Batman!

I've been trying to gather information about the two series of Arctic cargo/supply vessels built at Kherson Shipyard in Ukraine, and managed to compile the following list (as of September 2018):

ProjectYard numberYearOriginal nameIMO numberCurrent/last nameStatus
1062050011986VITUS BERING8624383DEEPWATER IBroken up (2003)
1062050021987ALEKSEY CHIRIKOV8624395CABALLO AZTECATotal loss (2017-18)
1062050031987VLADIMIR ARSENIEV8624400NEVIS PEARLBroken up (2016)
1062050041988VASILIY GOLOVNIN8723426In service
1062050051989STEPAN KRASHENINNIKOV8730443DP POLARBroken up (2013)
1062160011990IVAN PAPANIN8837928Broken up (2018)
1062160021991ALEKSANDR SLEDZUK9056894ICE MAIDEN IBroken up (2013)
1062160031993XUE LONG8877899In service
106216004(n/a)(n/a)9056909Laid up

edit (2016): #6004 is in fact a project 10621 ship which remains unfinished in Mexico. Photographs under the IMO number listed above were posted to ShipSpotting.com this year.

Thus, we have managed to track down all project 10620/10621 vessels.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 09:15:45 am »

Hello Peter & Tuomas

Hull 6002 / Ice Maiden 1 is correct. She is presently a stripped-down hull after a project to convert her to an offshore accommodation vessel failed. For several years now, she remains berthed in the River Tyne, U.K., and has not yet been towed away or scrapped.

http://www.portoftyneonline.co.uk/harbour/ships_on_berth.asp

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 12:20:31 pm »

Thanks for the correction, Phil. It's quite strange that she hasn't been cut up for scrap - what else can you do with a hull like that? The company that was working on the conversion already re-sold the thrusters and DP systems.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 12:23:27 pm »

Hi Tuomas,

I imagine she will be scrapped eventually. She's not gone yet, probably because there is a lot of legal wrangling going on regarding the failure of the project to convert her. Such legal processes can take years!

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2012, 12:36:02 pm »

Yeah, that's true. There are quite many ships abandoned in ports due to legal issues, slowly rusting away. Recently, a 60s tanker that had been moored at an Iranian oil terminal since the Iran-Iraq war in 1980 was towed to Gadani for scrapping. They even used it as a backdrop for a movie "Iron Island"!

I wonder why the IMO numbers of the second series of ships don't match to their order of construction. It's as if Xue Long was built considerably earlier than Ice Maiden 1, although the years indicate otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2012, 01:49:57 pm »

My remark about the existence of #6004 is coming from this website:

http://uglyships.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/ice-maiden-i-sisters/
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 02:38:48 pm »

One can also find the mysterious #6004 from the shipyard website:

http://kherson-shipyard.com/en/html/18.html

However, I'm quite sure it's a mistake. The design bureau only lists three Project 10621 vessels:

http://www.chsp.mksat.net/english/ref_list.php

Still, that does not explain the Project 10621 ship pictured on the Uglyships website.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 04:17:40 pm »

Hi Guys

Seems simple to me, the one pictured in Mexico (the mythical 6004 ??) don't thnk so ! More likely to be Caballo Azteca (5002) being converted to an oceanographic research vessel.

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2012, 07:31:32 pm »

That's what I thought, based on the new accommodation block in the foreground. However, CABALLO AZTECA is a Project 10620 vessel while the ship photographed in Mexico is clearly a Project 10621 vessel. They are quite easy to tell apart from the superstructure and the length of the forecastle.

I dropped a message to both the design bureau and the shipyard about the mysterious fourth Project 10621 vessel. Let's see what (if) they reply.

edit (2016): Never received any reply. However, check my earlier message for an update regarding #6004.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 01:16:42 am »

Following received from "AntonioGtz" by email to Shipspotting:

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Evening Gents, Hull6004 is in Mexico since last 2009, it was towed awai from Ukraine and waiting for a conversion project. was never completed at Kherson, TM was carried out and believe me, thickness still thck close to the original. and many other systems and equipment remains like brand new, catched up in the time. On 2009-2010 I did contact with the designer, Chernomorsurdoproject I barely remember the firm name... anyone knows the name and address? Thanks.

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 08:16:33 am »

Following received from "AntonioGtz" by email to Shipspotting:

That's interesting information - thank you for sharing.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2018, 08:26:39 am »

Looks like Ivan Papanin has bit the dust after the incident in Antarctica earlier this year; she's at Chittagong anchorage and listed for "scrapping":

http://cpa.portal.gov.bd/sites/default/files/files/cpa.portal.gov.bd/common_document/a1196d2c_2ad4_410b_97a4_732c62a76600/VESSEL%20-%2029-08-18.pdf

https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2018/21417/russian-scientific-ship-breached-antarctic-confusi/

The list in my previous post has been updated.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2019, 09:43:40 am »

Xue Long (#6003) recently hit an iceberg near Antarctica:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6WfX5AJAlE

Anyone know what Caballo Azteca is doing in these days? IHS Sea-web lists her as "total loss".
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2019, 12:34:39 pm »

I'm answering to myself to keep the information in a single thread.

Caballo Azteca drifted ashore in 2017 after dragging anchor and not having diesel for the generators. This was apparently a common occurrence for Oceanografia ships - five were stranded or flat out sank in 2016-2018.

In 2018, there was a fire that pretty much gutted the vessel. Since then, the ship has slowly been broken up and earlier this year it was towed to a nearby port without permission, supposedly to complete the scrapping:

You can find photographs with Google by searching for "barco Caballo Azteca"; here is one that seems to be quite recent, showing how some parts have already been removed:



I guess it's safe to say this Project 10620 ship won't be returning to service anymore...
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