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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2008, 09:45:44 AM »
It's interseing to read that you think that 70% of trade from the far east goes through Southampton and that you've picked up business from Felixstowe. I would be interested to see where the figure of 70% has come from, it sounds rather high to me. If it's anywhere near correct what on earth do they do ALL day at Felixstowe and to a lesser extent at Thamesport ??? I would suggest that the only reason Southampton might pick up a bit of business from Felixstowe is weather related being that cranes do not operate above a certain windspeed. When the improvements to berthing at Felixstowe are made in order to accomodate more large container vessels plus the possible opening up of Bathside Bay in Harwich I think things might change quite considerably.  As for Thamesport, although much smaller, it is even now being used for diverts from Southampton, and has recently picked up a fortnightly visit from Ships of the Yang Ming Line. Rgds jw.

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2008, 09:51:43 AM »
I think a more accurate figure is that around 45% of Far East trade comes in through Southampton. Felixstowe probably has a similar figure with Thamesport account for most of the rest.

Its worth considering that the vast majority of Southamptons traffic is Far East, but Felixstowe serves a far more broad selection of trades, and does not rely so much on the Far East.

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2008, 02:08:53 PM »
There are a few container ships at anchor in Sandown Bay today waiting to get up to Southampton. Among them are Seoul Express, NYK Aphrodite, OOCL Bremen, CMA-CGM Debussy, Maersk Kushiro and WMS Harlingen (the latter at St Helens anchorage). I went up onto Culver Down (overlooking Sandown Bay and the eastern Solent) to see them and managed to not get blown away.

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2008, 03:11:44 PM »
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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2008, 11:29:26 PM »
Currently at the Nab Anchorage:

NYK Aphrodite
CMA CGM Debussy
Maersk Kushiro
OOCL Bremen
OOCL Belgium
Seoul Express

The only movement since the Crane incident has been the Maersk Nariobi which used 203 berth.

I would imagine there will be a number of vessels calling at other UK / Continent ports instead of Southampton over the coming week.

Anybody have any pictures yet? I drove past today and all I saw was half a crane. Would be interesting the see the inside of the Kyoto Express

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2008, 09:17:50 AM »
Re Daywalkers earlier comment re Yangming vessels possibly diverting to Thamesport due to weathe. The schedule for their AE3 loop shows this service is now scheduled for Thamesport calling fortnightly on a Friday. Scedule at present covers period to mid May.

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2008, 09:30:47 AM »
It seems to me that this incident at Southampton can't be too serious, don't worry chaps. The ABP Southampton web-site under LATEST NEWS is showing that absolutely nothing has happened since 7/12/07. Surely this incident should have warranted a line or two !!!!!

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2008, 11:52:15 AM »
Hi All

Well it didn't warrant much coverage in local press/tv etc.

OOCL Bremen diverted to Thamesport.....sailed from Nab Anchorage No.9 at 11:00hrs Monday 21st.

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2008, 03:04:22 PM »
No pics, a snippet from WorldCargoNews

The boom of a container crane collapsed onto a ship during boom down operations Last Friday (18 January) at around 16.35h local time the boom of a crane at Southampton Container Terminals (SCT) collapsed onto the ship it had just finished working, Hapag-Lloyd

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2008, 03:13:36 PM »
Hi all

Latest update: NYK Aphrodite, OOCL Belgium and Seoul Express all gave up the ghost and sailed at around 14:00 today, the last two are having a race to Antwerp.   That leaves just CMA CGM Debussy at the anchorage and I suspect she will leave soon

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2008, 07:00:27 PM »
Here is the video of the crane collapse at Kwangyang in Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7-YlfVey1Y

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2008, 09:23:53 PM »
Oh you are a gloomy man, Mr Onions!
CMA CGM Debussy is due in tomorrow (some time!)
Here's a question for the Southampton squad; the tanker Propontis is due in tomorrow (Tuesday) and VTS say it is due in from "Nab Anchorage (Steaming).
Looking at AIS, I can see the ship is stooging around to the east of the anchorage (claiming to be "not under command"!).
Why would a vessel choose to just drift around the channel rather than anchor for the night?
Kelvin
(PS I am taking a day off tomorrow so I shall go to Calshot to photograph waves, empty water, sea birds etc)

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2008, 10:26:36 PM »
Hello Kelvin

I thought you'd been quiet on this one.   I look forward to seeing your gloomy pictures of Southampton Water tomorrow, if you're lucky you'll get two regular car boats and a lot of ifs and buts.  Me, I'm staying at home.

If I were a betting man,. I would not put any money on the CMA coming in tomorrow.  Look at the departures - where is she going to berth ?

Seriously though, I have noted recently that many vessels are listed as 'Nab steaming'.......and indeed they are if you look at their AIS traces - in some cases Nab has extended to near Lyme Bay.  But mostly this phenomenon has coincided with heavy weather.   I'm wondering whether there are two reaons for this : 1. for crew comfort - it's less bumpy to be steaming than just rolling about and/or 2. perhaps there is a concern regarding the anchor chain holding in bad weather conditions and its safer to be on the move.   Perhaps one of our Captain members might enlighten us land-lubbers.  

all the best for tomorrow

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2008, 08:35:21 AM »
OOCL BREMEN has been in and out of Thamesport overnight and is now nearing the Sunk pilot station to disembark pilot and then on to New York. Rgds jw.

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Re: Crane accident at Southampton
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2008, 08:22:45 PM »
Thamesport website now showing Cornelius Maersk now due 18.00 Sunday 27 Jan. Presumably a diversion from Southampton


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