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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2007, 02:45:33 PM »
Hi force4
Do you think this could end up like the Tricolor in th English channel, where they cut the ship into sections using a giant saw type of rope ?

it was also same as when they cut the bow of the russian submarine off the main sub(correct me if Iam wrong)

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PS please keep the info coming ,it is good to read such comments

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2007, 03:34:32 PM »
cawky,

highly likely to be cut using same methods as sub and tric - i was involved with the tric as well.

from the split in its current location - the most sensible option would be to cut and tow the bow section away - actually would makea good barge..

The accomodation block tho is the problem as that in itself weighs over 700 tonnes - the biggest issue is cutting/timing/security/location etc.

Se was pulled closer to shore on the top of the tide last night and is in its final resting place - pending approvals to dismantle...

not much more to say at present - till work programme can be divulged... will say as much as i can without breaking any rules :-)

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2007, 06:37:57 PM »
Attempts are being made to break the stricken container ship MSC Napoli in two in Branscombe Bay in Devon. The vessel was rebeached at high tide on July 12 and is now lying just a short distance from where she has been stranded for the past six months. Salvors have been working overnight to remove ballast in an attempt to facilitate a controlled break-up of the vessel by causing the hull to sag. If the operation works it would leave the bow section afloat which could then be towed away and the stern would sink to the seabed and eventually be removed.

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2007, 08:39:43 PM »
I HOPE THEY PUT IT BACK INTO SERVICE, I MEEN HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A SHIP AGROUND WHICH HAVE EVER BEEN BACK ONTO THE FLEET?

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2007, 08:48:28 PM »
That's half its problem already, the MSC Napoli ran aground in 2001 when named CMA CGM Normandie and was then rebuilt.

27 Mar 2001: Struck and stranded on Helen Mar Reef, in the Malacca Strait 01 07.12N 103 46.36E, approximately 6nm from Singapore whilst attempting to overtake another vessel. 22 Apr 2001: Refloated and towed to Tanjung Pelepas. Drydocked at Singapore for inspection. Towed into shipyard at Nha Trang 6 Jun 2001 for repairs, repairs at the Hyundai Vinashin Shipyard in Vietnam involved some 3,000 tonnes of steel renewal.. Sailed 22 Oct 2001.

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2007, 09:15:15 PM »
Some updated pics of "MSC Napoli" showing her sagging significantly HERE.

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2007, 08:09:23 PM »
It sounds a bit soft, I know, but the shiplover in me hates to see a ship being deliberately torn in two. It seems 'wrong' to do this. More prosaically, I am more concerned about the leaking fuel as more birds have been affected and the birdlife in the area has already declined by a third, according to the RSPB.

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2007, 08:12:50 AM »
always a shame - but i can assure you there is no way of repairing this ship in situ - by far the most sensible decision would be to cut thro the deck at its current break point - tow the bow away - there should be very little remaining pollutant in the ship - and maybe 1 or 2 birds may get a bit mucky but no where near an amount that gets any where close to be be news worthy....

I am working on the ship and the RSPB figures are wholly inacurate, tons of wildlife - and when we cannot work either due to tide or weather we are fishing - and catching heaps, mackeral, bass, dogfish, sea bream...

and as for the guillimots, gulls and puffins - they are all there....

As far as wrecks go this is certainly one of the cleanest to wildlife i have been involved with, lots of agencies all meet regularly to ensure feedback and constructive debate is aired... butwe do like to deal with FACTS not the press trying to make somethng look worse than what it is, purely because of the unique nature of the event for the UK

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2007, 06:22:20 PM »
Hi All

Found this rather surprisng news on the BBC Web Site:

"Beached Napoli may be blown apart

Explosives could be used to break up a container ship stranded off the coast of east Devon.
The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) is in talks with the Ministry of Defence (MoD) about using explosive charges on the MSC Napoli.

An MCA spokesman told BBC News it was a serious option being considered to separate two parts of the hull.

Attempts to flex and break the hull during the spring tide on Monday have not been successful.

Discussions are taking place between Marine Salvage Operations and the MCA about using the small explosives charges in a controlled operation to help break the hull.

The Napoli was deliberately grounded in January after it was damaged in storms.

It was refloated last week, but the results of a diving survey revealed the hull was severely damaged and the decision was taken to beach it again on Thursday.


The MCA and salvors want to break up the wreck and remove it from the beach.

People have been warned to stay out of the water between Seaton and Branscombe following some oil pollution from the Napoli.

An East Devon District Council spokesperson said: "The beaches themselves are still very much open, people just need to take care in the water."

The MCA described the pollution as "minimal" and said the fuel was residual pollution left over from the tanks being pumped out.

A number of oil-covered birds have been rescued.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/6900988.stm

Published: 2007/07/16 12:56:02 GMT


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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2007, 08:54:12 PM »
a controlled explosion should do the trick. Not as huge as the one we used on the Jolly Rubino. That was for a different purpose though.

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2007, 09:01:49 PM »
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a controlled explosion should do the trick. Not as huge as the one we used on the Jolly Rubino. That was for a different purpose though.


Hi kasner,
Hopefully not as big as the last one in this country, it was before my time and it was on a ship called:-

The Torey Canyon

My spelling might be wrong ,but I am sure some other members know the correct name and the amount of explosives used !!!!!!

Please reply with the correct of amo used  :-D  :-D

Regards Cawky

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2007, 09:12:01 PM »
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cawky wrote:
Hopefully not as big as the last one in this country, it was before my time and it was on a ship called:-

The Torey Canyon

My spelling might be wrong ,but I am sure some other members know the correct name and the amount of explosives used !!!!!!

Please reply with the correct of amo used  :-D  :-D

Regards Cawky


Hi Cawkey

It was the Torrey Canyon and a full report of the attempt to set it on fire can be seen on the BBC web site @
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/29/newsid_2819000/2819369.stm

"The RAF and the Royal Navy have dropped 62,000lbs of bombs, 5,200 gallons of petrol, 11 rockets and large quantities of napalm onto the ship"

Regards

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2007, 10:27:14 PM »
Thanks for the correct information Steve,
I do not think they will use that much "gear"
There will be nothing left of the beautiful Devon coast !!!

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2007, 10:43:31 PM »
Things are getting def the dramatic way in this.This is def the end of the largest containervessel ''stranded'' and consequently given up sofar.This might set the pass for the coming years in case of simular problems with the even much larger full containervessels floating arround now,like the latest Maersk ones now........In case of an emergency age of a vessel doesn't prevent it from poss going down.Have the strong feeling that the construction of these latest generation vessels will bring us to some surprising facts in the years to come and that's not ment the positive way...... :cry:

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Re: MSC Napoli to be refloated (maybe)
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2007, 07:38:26 AM »
What a sad end for the MSC NAPOLI after all this time, will she be broken-up where she is or will the two sections be towed away for scrap.

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