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Re: Royal Caribbean and Pullmantur disposals
« Reply #105 on: September 28, 2020, 04:49:46 PM »
Here is the link to the Video from Channel 7 tonight here in Australia.
https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1310507431751872517

Now I'm worried that Empress and Majesty will join their sisters in Aliaga.
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« Reply #106 on: October 05, 2020, 01:55:21 PM »
The Pullmantur Sovereign and the Pullmantur Monarch alongside the Carnival Fantasy, Carnival Imagination, and Carnival Inspiration have been featured by Reuters and South China Morning Post. They interviewed the chairman of the Aliaga Scrapyard and he said that three more vessels will arrive in a few weeks. I fear the three vessels he mentioned includes the Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas as well as the Carnival Fascination. Here is the link to the videos:

https://youtu.be/-T0I4eCrzjw

https://youtu.be/PymG1jV_xZk
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« Reply #108 on: October 17, 2020, 09:49:22 PM »
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« Reply #109 on: October 19, 2020, 06:58:18 PM »
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« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2020, 04:57:59 PM »
Royal Caribbean Group is considering selling ships to survive the pandemic and get money. I suspect that the Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas are on the chopping block (meaning the vessels could be sold or scrapped) as they're currently the oldest vessels in the RCI fleet due to Sovereign and Monarch already been sold to Aliaga. I also suspect that Royal Caribbean will also sell or scrap the Vision class as they're smaller and older, though not as old as Empress and Majesty. Anyways, here is the link:

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23779-royal-caribbean-may-still-consider-opportunistic-ship-sales.html
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« Reply #111 on: December 10, 2020, 12:23:37 AM »
Looking at recent photos and videos at Aliaga, it's obvious that they barely have started on Pullmantur Monarch. In fact, she still looks mostly intact. The Sovereign, on the other hand, is a goner. Maybe they're waiting to fully scrap Sovereign before they work on Monarch. Maybe there's still a chance to save her before they start to cut her up.
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« Reply #112 on: December 10, 2020, 01:16:30 AM »
Scrapping a ship is not a five-minute job. Before the cutting torches set to work on the ship's exterior, there's a lot of gear that can be salvaged (and resold) from the interior - especially so on a cruise ship
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Re: Royal Caribbean and Pullmantur disposals
« Reply #113 on: December 10, 2020, 05:27:29 AM »
Scrapping a ship is not a five-minute job. Before the cutting torches set to work on the ship's exterior, there's a lot of geaqr that can be salvaged (and resold) from the interior - especially so on a cruise ship


BTW, both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas are both in cold lay-up in Souda, Greece with Pullmantur Horizon. It's obviously that the three vessels are likely to sail to Aliaga soon, even though RCI is denying it.
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Re: Royal Caribbean and Pullmantur disposals
« Reply #114 on: December 10, 2020, 11:40:26 AM »

BTW, both Empress of the Seas and Majesty of the Seas are both in cold lay-up in Souda, Greece with Pullmantur Horizon. It's obviously that the three vessels are likely to sail to Aliaga soon, even though RCI is denying it.

HORIZON is in Eleusis Bay, not Souda.
EMPRESS OF THE SEAS and MAJESTY OF THE SEAS are not in "COLD" lay-up, they are crewed, with engines running etc. Currently, EMPRESS OF THE SEAS is doing 5 knots to the east of Souda Bay, so definitely not cold.

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« Reply #115 on: December 16, 2020, 04:37:12 PM »
Today, after months of denial, Royal Caribbean has sadly confirmed that the Empress of the Seas and the Majesty of the Seas have been sold off. Although the buyer wasn't mentioned, it's very likely that they were for scrap in Aliaga, Turkey where their sister ships Pullmantur Sovereign and Pullmantur Monarch are already being scrapped. Here are the links.

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/24060-michael-bayley-and-vicki-freed-say-goodbye-to-two-royal-caribbean-ships.html

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/12/16/royal-caribbean-has-sold-majesty-of-the-seas-and-empress-of-the-seas
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« Reply #116 on: December 16, 2020, 04:44:04 PM »
According to Royal Caribbean's statement, which can be read here: https://www.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1487/royal-caribbeans-empress-and-majesty-of-the-seas-set-to-depart-fleet/

"the ships have been sold to an undisclosed party, based in Asia-Pacific, that will release details for future sailings at a later time."

So I doubt they are going to Aliaga.

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Re: Royal Caribbean and Pullmantur disposals
« Reply #117 on: December 16, 2020, 05:33:10 PM »
EMPRESS OF THE SEAS heading for Emmanuel's camera, ETA Valletta 18/12 early morning.
Maybe MAJESTY OF THE SEAS will follow; at present still anchored at Souda Bay.


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« Reply #118 on: December 21, 2020, 03:41:38 AM »
Update from Aliaga. Sovereign's funnel is now gone. https://www.instagram.com/p/CI9cZUeBH4c/?igshid=1q0kikhl3meg6
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Re: Royal Caribbean and Pullmantur disposals
« Reply #119 on: December 21, 2020, 09:00:07 AM »
EMPRESS OF THE SEAS now back at Souda Bay (near MAJESTY OF THE SEAS) after brief stop offshore NE Malta.  No apparent change of flag.

 

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