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Clyde Dickens
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« on: April 01, 2020, 06:50:39 am »

The issue of cruise ships at sea is one facing many countries worldwide, with fears that allowing passengers to disembark will release the virus into on-shore communities. Many ships across the world remain stranded at sea, with governments reluctant to let them dock.

In Australia, a flotilla of cruise ships is "lingering" off the east coast and refusing to return home, even after police ordered the ships to leave Australian waters.  NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said nine cruise ships are currently off the state's coastline. Three are registered in NSW, but the others are not, and will not be allowed to dock in NSW. Fuller said despite being ordered to return to their port of origin, the ships are refusing to budge, and he has called for them to leave.
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 07:20:20 am »

These are only the short term problems of the cruise industry. What COVID-19 has proven is that you don't want to be on such a vessel when there is an outbreak. Of course chances are not too big that we will get another outbreak of an as yet unknown and uncurable virus, but people will keep this experience in the back of their minds for a very long time. If the market recovers to about 50% of pre-Covid-19 levels, the industry can count itself luck.   
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2020, 08:21:32 am »

The ships registered in NSW are Australia's responsibility, but many states are trying to kick out cruise ships registered in their own country. If you accept ships under your flag, you take the responsibility, and well as collecting the fees. Bahamas have done the same, refusing to let Fred Olsen's Bahamas registered Braemar dock. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2020, 08:40:02 am »

Paul, that really opens a can of worms. I have no idea about how the world cruise is registered, but your approach would create great problems for a ship flying the Luxembourg flag.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2020, 11:20:10 am »

Exactly it does open a can of worms. If you want to register a ship under a "cheap" flag to avoid paying so much in fees, then you have to accept the problems that come with that in times of crisis. In the same way, the countries offering a cheaper flag must accept that it comes with responsibilities in times of crisis.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2020, 06:30:12 pm »

Exactly it does open a can of worms. If you want to register a ship under a "cheap" flag to avoid paying so much in fees, then you have to accept the problems that come with that in times of crisis. In the same way, the countries offering a cheaper flag must accept that it comes with responsibilities in times of crisis.


Yet I do not think that after this is over there will be a run one the American flag..
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 06:55:36 pm »

I fear that this Coronavirus crisis is going to devastate the worldwide cruise industry for years to come and possibly spells the death-knell for more than a few of today's well-known cruise lines - especially the smaller ones
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2020, 06:24:48 am »

I think there is a bigger picture coming towards the cruising companies. I think people will now start to think that they wont get on any of these supersized ships as has been seen when a bug gets onboard it spreads through the ship like wildfire. In the past it has been a cold or a cough which most people passed of not thinking that it may have been on the ship for months. Then there was our old friend Norovirus, which in fairness the cruise companies kept under control. But it was possible when you went into your cabin the people had been in it were infected and you could be to on your new trip.
Now has come the big one covid-19, went through these large ships, and killed passengers and less we forget crew as well. Shipping Companies became helpless as world Governments turned them away,   
My wife has been a avid cruiser, but not any longer, the elderly passengers of which we belong,  will look hard and long at these huge liners and wont book them and go for the smaller ship.
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