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Pieter Inpyn
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« on: February 26, 2020, 09:10:49 am »

Suggestions for improvement of the website:
1)   Conversion of all vessel names of all the posted photo’s so far to uppercase characters. Now it is a strange mix of upper and lower case text. A vessel like “Devonia” can be posted as devonia, Devonia and DEVONIA, with entries as such in the index-table mentioned at point 3.
2)   During posting / adding a photo, the vessel name is converted to upper case characters straight away.
3)   Rebuilding / cleaning of the index-table on the right hand side of the main screen called “Ship Photo Search”, because there are now a lot of multiple entries for the same vessel of entries or vessels that are no longer on the website. I have also the impression that it is not maintained properly so far by the software.
4)   Without any warning I am kicked out of the website after 60 minutes.I would like to receive a warning after 55 minutes so that I can log-out and log-in again without losing any data during posting. Changing the log-in period in my profile is not possible (changes are not stored).
5)   Suggestion that inland vessels with an ENI are show in the same way as seagoing vessels with an IMO. For instance in the screen with new photo’s, the ENI is not shown so far. For vessels with an IMO there is the possibility of “This ship by this photographer”: this works on the IMO but not on the ENI: would be nice for vessels with ENI as well. In all other screens ENI should be shown if present. Note that a lot of inland tankers and tugs have an IMO and an ENI, would be nice if both are presented.

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2020, 08:01:16 pm »

Hi Pieter-The late Ken Smith (Admin)-Sent me a PM saying not to use Caps a it was Overbearing-I used them all the time
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2020, 08:31:59 pm »

I think it's time to remove the NEW! from "NEW! View the summary page for this ship"; but I would retain the red for emphasis.

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2020, 08:48:11 am »

For Jim McQuarrie: the reason for conversion to uppercase:
1) On the bow and stern of ships I see for 99.99 % only uppercase characters
2) The search-engine of the "Ship Photo Search" index table on the right hand top of the main screen has a problem with different entries like DEVONIA, Devonia and devonia.

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2020, 10:18:10 am »

Add the automatic reading of date when a photo was taken from Exif data, with an option of manual input.

Makes no sense for scanned photos upload, but would definitely save time for us geeks with digital cameras. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2020, 12:35:34 pm »

I have 2 suggestions for improvement of website.

Firstly, due to the vast number of photos on the site, you could limit the numbers posted to a maximum of 2 per ship.

Secondly, many photos are posted by members who did not take the photo, could there be an option to add the photographers name to the photo if known or unknown.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2020, 02:12:35 pm »

I have a lot of suggestions to make, but please I  bear in mind that this site is administrated  on voluntary basis by dedicated members  with photos being loaded on the site from world wide members at all hours.
Members are increasing daily as are the photos, so some suggestions are difficult to be attained.
Members could be of greater help in giving more information, as to date of building, flag, tonnage, dimensions, IMO numbers etc. on the photos sent.
Please use the site as form of making friends and not to cause friction in your comments.
We don't have the perfect site but we have the best one, so make the best use of it .
Thanks to all and regards to everyone
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2020, 03:11:20 pm »

A possibility to sort the photos of a member's album alphabetically, not only "newest" and "most viewed" would be nice.

And I explicitly support Pieter's suggestions concerning the ENI!

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2020, 05:55:52 pm »

Would it be possible for members to preview the changes, to give feedback on the re-design? Through say beta.shipspotting.com or something similar? Might be easier to give feedback if we can see what's changing!
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2020, 06:12:21 pm »

I do not consider using upper-case for names is the right option and would certainly not improve the site.  Stolt, for example do NOT use capitals and neither do the Mein Schiff vessels, just to mention 2 that spring to mind.

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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2020, 06:20:12 pm »

The field in front of the URL www.shipsotting.co/ circle with an i
View site information
Be careful
The connection to this site is not encrypted.
This makes it easier to steal sensitive information such as passwords.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2020, 09:42:55 pm »

Just a few observations on some of the points raised - those where real discussion is desired will be moved into specific threads.

1) Capitalisation of ships' names
It is true that the vast majority of ships' names are in all-caps on ships themselves.  But this is just a matter of tradition and, in some places, national registration law.  There are indeed some exceptons where owners have themselved adopted something different for individual styling or branding preference - including cursive scripts, some miniscule words, misplaced full stops and hyphens etc.  None of this is directly relevant to what we do on here.

This has been discussed several times before; and the site's guidance was revised in the light of the last round to reflect the division of opinion
http://www.shipspotting.com/support/faq.php?category=How%20to%20Upload%20Photos#76

Whether a name has capitals or not makes no difference to a name search - devonia, Devonia, DEVONIA, DEVoniA etc all produce the same 35 photos.  But I agree that the drop-down lists are a pain as they are, and must be improved (at the very least to prevent the actual search button being hidden by the drop-downs).

Anyway, I'll put this subject in a separate thread so that others can give their views.

2 Auto-logout
That certainly should be improved - I assume that it is common issue (I don't experience it at all, but that may be an Admin thing).  I've put this on my list for IT.

3 Use of ENI numbers
Will take this up - it's attractive in principle, but there might be some technical issues (eg where ships have both IMO and ENI numbers) - and it is only relatively recently that ENI numbers became "unique for life" like IMO numbers.

4 (New) Summary page
More importantly this needs improvement so that each name the ship has had can be selected individually

5 Auto-reading Captured date
Interesting idea.  A definite help if technically feasible.  It's on the list!

6 Limits on numbers of photos
This subject actually has many facets and has always proved highly contentious.  Frankly I'd like to park this one for a little while (but won't forget!).  But in the meantime I will check with IT whether there are underlying bandwidth issues for the new site

7 Identifying photographers
I assume that this is effectively adding a discreet watermark.  The site at present does not favour watermarks, but does allow subject to limitations.  A tool to be able to add them in the circumstances described could be considered

8 Upgrading project
Dealing with the various security issues that have arisen over the last year or too is one of the fundamental reasons for the upgrade.  The intention is to bring it fully up to modern standards.
We are only at the beginning of the process and my expectation is that it will be some months before a parallel site will be ready for trials.  I will keep you informed.

If you want to comment further on any of these points, please open a specific Subject thread - I can copy over what has already been said here. All discussions here will be evaluated by the Admin team in liaison with the site development managers (IT)
Meanwhile, thanks for your wise advice, Emmanuel - now just waiting for your list!

David
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2020, 10:40:18 am »

I like to say something on the number of photos for warships, 4 in number is already a bit low, take for example , if you get to photograph a Russian vessel ,she will be bristling with armaments,, a flight deck , the ship crest, so 4 will be not be sufficient for sure ,unless you return on the morrow to further photograph her  (if she is still available)
on  the other hand some categories could be done with, say ships interior (a lot of cabins etc.) lifeboats, etc,
Also please provide  more up to the minute info on the vessel.
This is my humble suggestions.
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Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2020, 06:14:04 pm »

What about adding more ports to the drop down menu port list.
From time to time a lot of comments and questions about it in the forum.
A lot of ports in different areas and countries around the world not covered, including countries without sea but with big river ports ( a bunch in Europe ) and of course big ports and new ones not covered, for example, in Canary Islands.
Well, think about it...
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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2020, 04:51:59 pm »

1.  The port list has already been put on the agenda

2.  Warships.  I think that there may be some misunderstanding: for the  main "whole ship" category (frigate, submarine etc) the limit is indeed four, with significantly changes of angle. Interiors/ship's decks/bridge/engine rooms are additional and have a combined limit of six - and flight decks are included with these; ships crests are one per crest, and for fixed armaments one photo per type.  (Zero for side views of planes and helicopters, I'm afraid)
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