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Yvon Perchoc
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« on: October 07, 2018, 01:58:32 pm »

Hi,
07 Oct 2018 - Collision between the Tunisian ropax ULYSSE (IMO9142459), on her way from Genova to Tunisia, and the container carrier CSL VIRGINIA (IMO9289568), waiting for orders, at 15 NM north of Corsica island (Mediterranea).
Please see photo : http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2018/10/07/97001-20181007FILWWW00046-corse-collision-entre-deux-bateaux.php
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Yvon
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2018, 03:14:52 pm »

How can be possible to steam directly on a ship adrift waiting for orders? In daylight, good visibility, at 18+ knots and 300 meters of steel in front of you ?
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2018, 07:50:15 pm »

The answer to your question about how it can happen is very easy. Not keeping a lookout. The company spent a lot of money installing windows in the wheelhouse when the ship was built but it seems that OOW's don't think they need to look out of them. There can't have been anyone on the bridge keeping a watch at the time. If there was this would never have happened. In the old days we used to joke that if there was only a dog up there at least he would have barked to warn of the impending danger!
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 09:54:57 am »

Joking ? Really? 
The following are my own personal experiences from the mid sixties.

I was a radio officer and it might be worth pointing out that R/Os worked to GMT and not ship’s time. Consequently their watch hours were not always in step with normal watch keeping hours.

Occasion 1.
One afternoon the 2nd mate was fuming because the Mate had not turned up to relieve him on the afternoon 12 – 4 watch, this being something of a pattern. He eventually arrived the worse for drink. As the 2nd Mate was unable to leave him, we spent a while getting coffee down him and hanging him over the dodger, hoping the blasts of cold air would refresh him. After a while the Old Man turned up and having eyed us suspiciously went into the wheelhouse. The 2nd Mate suggested we cleared off while the Old Man was on the bridge and hence in charge and we returned to our respective cabins.

Around half an hour or so later, the Old Man burst into my cabin and said “Sparks come with me!” I followed him into the chartroom where he pointed at the Mate, lying fast asleep on the settee. He poked him and turned to me and  said “You’re my witness” and turning to him said “And you Mr Mate, you’re logged!” 

Occasion 2.
A different Mate en route from Maracaibo to Europe. I got up for a 6am watch, went through from my cabin into the radio room and could see through the sliding door to the chartroom that the Mate was fast asleep on the settee with his shoes tidily place on the floor beside him. It was barely coming light and I went into the wheelhouse. There I saw the Chinese quartermaster hunched up asleep in a corner and that we were in fog. I put the radar on to see if we had any traffic in the vicinity and we didn’t. The noise woke the Mate up who was pretty disgruntled about being disturbed.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 09:39:56 am »

More info (in Italian) and photos at the scene of this absurd collision available here:

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/media/Collisione-tra-mercantili-a-nord-della-Corsica-chiazza-di-carburante-di-4-km-8f888c24-f505-40ee-8728-2b6a7341a292.html#foto-1

Concerns now are on how to quickly and swiftly control the extensive fuel spillage before it ends up hitting the coast and causing extensive environmental damage there.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 02:22:01 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TaFeBx-rio
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 09:47:11 pm »

Perhaps the OOW, lookout and helmsan were all in the head... Together... At the same time..?

I would bet money on the BNWAS being turned off prior to the collision, too...
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« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 09:28:42 am »

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How can be possible to steam directly on a ship adrift waiting for orders? In daylight, good visibility, at 18+ knots and 300 meters of steel in front of you ?
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The container vessel was at anchor and as far as I know they had been there for a while. So let's assume the anchor watch  / OOW has noticed that the ULYSSE was approaching. What to do ?  Before you have yr engine ready and the anchor up it's anyhow done.
That leaves the problem on the ULYSSE. Nobody on the bridge ? Maybe . OOW Falling asleep ? Maybe
I hardly can wait to hear / read the results of the investigation   
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