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« on: October 13, 2017, 05:11:55 pm »

http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/japan-okinawa-prefecture-indians-hong-kong-cargo-ship/106569
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 06:06:49 pm »

do we know her imo number please
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2017, 06:35:12 pm »

I think it's 9449261

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2017, 06:39:36 pm »

Hong Kong flagged bulk carrier "Emerald Star",  built 2010,  57.367 t S DW, DIM: 190 x 32,26 meters,  IMO  9449261 and MMSI  477982700, seems to be the tragic ship in this case.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2017, 11:41:08 pm »

Thanks for details
Any idea is she in ballast or loaded?
In marinetraffic eta China 16/10

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2017, 05:21:17 am »

"The cargo on board was nickel ore and it is easily liquefied," a shipbroker source said.

https://www.platts.com/latest-news/shipping/singapore/dry-bulk-supramax-vessel-with-nickel-ore-on-board-27879099
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2017, 06:36:25 am »

"The cargo on board was nickel ore and it is easily liquefied," a shipbroker source said.

https://www.platts.com/latest-news/shipping/singapore/dry-bulk-supramax-vessel-with-nickel-ore-on-board-27879099

thanks Mr Juergen
I guess it is before i posted

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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 05:03:59 pm »

Those nickel and iron ore cargoes areextremely dangerous. They if too wet , starting liquifiying, which means that the water in the cargo rises to the top and build on top a layer of "sludge" cargo. When the vessel starts
rolling the sludge stays on the side to which it rolls and does not come back and gives the veesel a list. This list increases which virtually each more roll and finally capsizing the vessel.
In those countries the cargo is stored in the open and with ever rain the cargo sucks up more water. There is usually delivered to the vessel at the beginning of loading a certificate which shows the MCL (Moist Content Level) of the cargo, However often those are updated seldom or just by signatures and not real surveys. If one loads, one has to check the cargo from ships side and the easiest way is via a tin-can test. On use a simple empy tin can, ,fills in cargo, shakes it vigriously and sets it down on a quite, flat surface. Whithhin a short time frame on top will build a water film. If that happens the cargo is oo wet.  This test should be done by the ships crew very hour when they loading.  Very often it is not done. Alsi NEVER-EVER trust the crtificates coming from shore about the MCL. I dare to say that in 8-10 cases the certificates are fake or incorrect.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 05:01:29 am »

Yes, as Master you have right to refuse the cargo loaded onto vsl
Sometimes black on white incorrect despite that is legal, so shipowner or charterer think other
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2017, 09:04:12 am »

wasn't in last 2 years that a fleet of these super bulkers were breaking in the middle and a few sippers in south America refused to ship on these ships till they were rebuilt/repaired . these were new built ships
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2017, 03:32:17 pm »

@Trucker,, I think you mean the 500.000 tons bulkers of VALE,which hauling iron ore to China and one of them had a problem and then all the others were re-surveyed
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« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 12:10:21 am »


is there any influence age of ship?
main are cargoes, i think
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« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 03:10:54 pm »

@ Husni,,, The age of the ship, if she was always good maintained/surveyed/repaired should not have big impact on the situation with cargoes like that. Older ships have one advantage even,,they are often stronger builded as newer ships
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« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 11:40:54 pm »

Capt,
Understood.And correct.I have experience fm MV Getwin IMO 8025135.old ship but still in service last time.old ship and age same with me.Master always need also good trimming in every holds  to avoid cargo rolling
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