COPYRIGHT

[tarbyonline]

The arguement that `oldie` photographs are copyrighted..when these pix were taken `copyright ` was not even invented ..get a life and respect our elder sailors for uploading our heritage..nuff sed..

Sorry (not criticising the spirt of your post), but copyright has been around longer than photographic cameras!  I suspect you are referring to the international copyright agreements such as the 1952 Berne convention, and the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights from the mid 90's.  However, the notion of copyright (and individual country laws) can be traced back to the 1700's.

[davidships]

Shipspotting's copyright policy is now in a separate FAQ to give it clearer prominence: http://www.shipspotting.com/support/faq.php?category=Copyright

The content is unchanged

[Allan RO]

Just found my picture of Suncrest being used in a advert for its sale on e-bay.  I suppose interesting that it is up for sale, but the seller is claiming they were given the picture with copyright on it !!! and also claiming I breached their copyright by photographing the tug.  I do not believe the current owner actually owned the ship 20 years ago when I took the photo, but it is interesting they feel their tug is copyrightable (if that is a word).

Allan

[Bob Scott]

Unless SUNCREST has undergone a major repaint in the last few months, it is in nothing like the condition it is in the 20 year old photo

[Allan RO]

you are right Bob, in recent pics she looks very tatty. May be they will get done under the misrepresentation of goods act.

Allan

[Riverman2903]

Well that could explain why the seller is refusing to post any other photographs on e-bay!

Latest bids are now up to

[Allan RO]

in correspondence on e-bay he is still refusing to accept the pic. being used is my copyrighted photo taken in 1997 - SOME TIME before he even owned the thing.  I have a mobile number and will give him a call tomorrow but I think it will probably end in a slanging match.   He can use it if he pays me a fee, if not he will remain in breach of copyright.   Had he asked, I may even have let him use it for free !!

Allan

[Riverman2903]

Some more photographs have now appeared.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262791357962?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[davidships]

The under-way photo is Ken's
http://riverthames.sosugary.com/displayimage.php?pid=856

Both Allan and Ken can submit a claim through eBay's Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) programme:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/tp/vero-rights-owner.html
http://p.ebaystatic.com/aw/uk/pdf/UKNOCI1.pdf

[Allan RO]

Many thanks for that link David - very useful

Allan

[Vanquish01]

Some more photographs have now appeared.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262791357962?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

WOW And somebody is willing to pay

[Jon Godsell]

Some more photographs have now appeared.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262791357962?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

WOW And somebody is willing to pay

[marshal79]

Found this person called "unknown" on Marinetraffic using our photo(s) from shipspotting and also Tomas Jacobsen-O's Yara Kara.
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/by/page:1/copyright:Unknown
Is he familiar from before?

 BR The Ericsson family

[davidships]

Thanks for drawing this to our attention.
I am working through "unknown"'s Marine Traffic Gallery and will take this up direct with them.

David

[DEREK SANDS]

The most frustrating thing about copyright cheats like this is. As soon as you deal with one and get it sorted another one appears. In some cases its probably the same person with another ID.

Despite the best efforts its an impossible task.

brgds

Derek