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Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« on: June 30, 2013, 01:12:37 PM »
TI Europe, fresh from repaint at Brest, is currently moored off Falmouth.
Apparently alongside is Portland based bunkering tanker Paxoi. Wonder why TI Europe did not get bunkers at Brest, if, indeed, that is what she is doing, or use the local facilities. And where is she off to next?
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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2013, 01:34:51 PM »
Easy,, PRICE !!!!!
bunker may be much cheaper in Fallmouth than in Brest.
Take into account how much she can/has to take, just insert $ 25-100 (hypothetical number) per ton difference and do the math :-)
NOW!!!,,,if we could get rid of the sailors,,how safe shipping would be !!!!!!!!

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2013, 09:46:30 PM »
It is rumoured next port of call will be Rotterdam to load for the Far East. Interestingly, bunkerprices in Rotterdam are usually lower than in Falmouth. Although Falmouth is a wellknown bunkerport, bunkering in Rotterdam during loading operations is preferred. Let's wait and see - could result in interesting Shipspotting here....

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 10:58:29 AM »
TI Europe is expected 19-07-2013 at Calandcanal Rotterdam.

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 09:48:33 PM »
Hi Boco,

Where did you get this information from ? Neither agents nor RPA can confirm this. Surely it does not take her 18 days to cover the distance between Falmouth and Rotterdam so wondering what she's doing in the meantime. Loading in Falmouth perhaps ?

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 05:43:28 AM »

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 09:23:03 AM »
If laycan doesn't commence until 19th/20th July, it makes no sense to arrive in Rotterdam beforehand, otherwise additional port dues will be incurred. Therefore, waiting at a suitable sea location such as Falmouth Bay is the sensible option.

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 09:29:40 AM »
Very possible CP here has a load early clause if cargo available. Vessel can then TNOR ahead of laydays sitting OPL Rotterdam till called to berth / bouys.

Guessing this is a loading on the bouys in Rotterdam via afra's or suezmax vsls.

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 09:48:52 AM »
Please, what is 'laycan', 'CP', and 'TNOR'? Sorry to show my ignorance.
Is it likely that TI Europe will load a cargo of refined products out of Rotterdam. I would have thought that, given her size, she exclusively carried crude oil, which I presume comes into Rotterdam.
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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 10:13:13 AM »
CP = Charter party (Voyaage contact between ship owner and charterer)

TNOR = Tendering Noitce of Readiness

Hope this helps!

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 10:55:52 AM »
If she is loading at Rotterdam it will be heavy fuel oil. VLCCs do occasionally load such cargoes. There is no way she can carry clean petroleum products.

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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 11:06:05 AM »
@ holedriller

LAYCAN,  is a fixed time frame where the owner/operator of a ship has to tender the vessel (have it ready to load) to the charterer. Most laycans have a 5-7 days period. If the laycan says 02-07 July than the owner suppose to have his ship ready at a beforehand agreed position. Most of the time ,arrival pilot station at the load port, but also for example
passing Key West Florida straits en route to load port, or passing Stait of Gibraltar for example.
Some C/P,s (Charty Party)have also clauses that the owners can tender NOR before the laycan starts and then the charterer has the option to take the ship earlier or not but has to start paying once laycan official starts.
When the vessel arrives at the agreed position, then the Master has to tender the so-called Notice of Readiness (NOR) which means nothing else then declaring the ship ready to load the intended cargo.  NOR,s are also tendered at arrival discharge port.
In container business NOR,s are usually not done anymore. In the bulk and tanker business it is common practice.  
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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 11:20:19 AM »
As of 12:15 2nd July AIS indicates ETA Rotterdam 12:00 4th July.
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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 12:35:42 PM »
On the move! Now 30km E of Falmouth heading E at 10 kn. Looks as if you were all right about destination.
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Re: Worlds largest ship off Falmouth
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 04:44:11 PM »
She'sgiven ETA Skaw as well as Rotterdam. I've worked as a tanker charterer/operator for 30 years so the present situation does not surprise me. Right now, she's known to neither RPA, nor any tanker agent. Let's wait and see.
Under normal circumstances a 36/24/12 hrs. notice to RPA is required. That'll give us a timeframe to react and rush to Slag Maasmond with our cameras. Hopefully she won't arrive during nighttime.....

Rgds,
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