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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2012, 01:10:56 pm »

Hi Kelvin,
           I hasten to add to my last post that I also find much of the content of Maritime Bulletine reports are written in a sort of 'Tongue in Cheek' way.
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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2012, 08:59:55 pm »

Today 27th Aug 2012 at 1624 The MCA have published a press release updating the situation regarding the MSC Flaminia. It can be viewed on their web site . . www.dft.gov.uk/mca  under 'Publications'
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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2012, 01:24:12 am »

Kasco

very easy

to load a vessel,, special a container ship according to regulation, containers would hve to be opened and inspected before loading,,try that with 2000 of them for a big ship !!!
In other words it,s a cost matter,, and hoping that shippers load the container as per regs. Unfortunately a lot of them take short cuts and declare wrong or less weights. It is a big concern. I remember when I loaded a 2500 TEU ship in 2006 in R-dam,,the draft survey showed that the weight of the containers (cargo) was 800 mt off the decalred !!!
Option,,discharge and re-weight,,,,result: new capt comes if done so !!
These were the exact points that were raised at this meeting, lax safety procedures due to cost concerns. The main recommendations that came out of this conference were:
1. Each cargo unit be weighed before acceptance for transport.
2. A percentage of these cargo units be inspected before loading=15%
The underwriters made the case that the loss of one of these large vessels cost hundred of millions of dollars. The two recommendations would add very little to the cost of shipping a cargo unit.


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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2012, 07:26:57 am »

Today 27th Aug 2012 at 1624 The MCA have published a press release updating the situation regarding the MSC Flaminia. It can be viewed on their web site . . www.dft.gov.uk/mca  under 'Publications'


Cannot find it. Could you be more specific or publish here?
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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2012, 07:49:45 am »

http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-home/newsandpublications/press-releases.htm?id=6FFEBFD539348E12&m=8&y=2012
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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2012, 08:41:31 am »

It may all be academic by the time you read this. At 08:40 GMT the convoy is in the English Channel approximately 15 miles east of the Lizard. The wind in the area has now reduced to around 15 knots, presumably making life easier for all involved.
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« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2012, 10:47:04 am »



Thanks.
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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2012, 12:35:07 pm »

Well, progress at last!
According to the BBC, the inspection has concluded that the ship is safe to be towed to Germany and the tow will begin tomorrow (Sunday):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-19448577
Meanwhile, Maritime Bulletin has published what is claimed to be part of the cargo manifest.
Conspiracy theories or an axe to grind? I don't know which but there it is:
http://www.odin.tc/news/read.asp?articleID=1260
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2012, 07:24:40 pm »

It's not very suprising that a large container ship is carrying hazardous industrial chemicals in some of the containers. What next? Someone realizes that chemical tankers are carrying similar chemicals in large quantities...
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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2012, 02:03:46 pm »

Why is it that over the past few weeks, the attending tugs have been visible, on and off, on Marinetraffic but I have seen no sign of MSC Flaminia. Now that she is under tow to Germany she is now visible on AIS. Has someone turned it on?

At the moment all four are in the English Channel south of the Lizard.

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2012, 02:46:34 pm »

Bob,
MSC Flaminia was visible via AIS over the last week or so but it was intermittent. Usually when she was on the edge of the usable range. See my post on the previous page (August 26th).
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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2012, 02:57:37 pm »

Thanks Kelvin. I saw your post and wondered if this was the case but never caught sight of her myself. The tugs, Carlo Magno & Anglian Sovereign must have kept being in & out of range.

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« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2012, 08:14:30 am »

she's on the move now, presently NW of the Channel Islands
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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2012, 07:25:11 am »

Hi all,
The CENTRAL COMMAND FOR MARITIME EMERGENCIES GERMANY (in german: HAVARIEKOMMANDO) reports periodical i.e. as follows:

http://www.havariekommando.de/aktuelles/anlagen/PM_FLaminia_9_eng__2_.pdf

Hope this may assist.
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2012, 08:13:50 am »

It appears on Marine Traffic AIS that at 0910 this morning MSC Flaminia is making way without assistance from her tugs !!!which all appear to be following astern, or could it be that the AIS Transponder Data is incorrect !!
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