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« on: August 19, 2012, 03:23:47 pm »

What's the latest on the MSC Flaminia? Haven't seen or heard anything for a few days. Is she still afloat and burning? Huh
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2012, 05:02:32 pm »

MSC Flaminia ..report of 16th Aug from "Post & Courier" .. Smoke was still coming from one of the Flaminiaís cargo holds ... according to the vesselís German owner, Reederei NSB. The 984-foot ship was holding a position 400 nautical miles west of the English Channel, and its owner has so far been unable to obtain permission to tow the ship to a port. MSC Flaminia, list has been reduced from 11 to 2.5 degrees by pumping water from cargo hold to ballast tanks. Ship stable and now safe to enter emergency port but none forthcoming. Weather deteriorating.
Meanwhile, Reederei NSB declared "general average", a maritime provision that requires the owners of cargo aboard the ship to pay a proportionate share of all the costs related to cargo damage, ship damage and salvage operations.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2012, 05:03:56 pm »

Hi Stantheman,
               Yep still going around in circles & under tow in the Atlantic . .fire is now out .
    You can get the full Chronological Reports and daily positions if you go to www.odin.tc/
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2012, 05:45:27 pm »

Been wondering what was on it for a while, that could be the reason no port will touch it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2012, 06:00:47 pm »

I can't help but notice that the commentary at odin.tc seems to be rather biased. Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 07:17:46 pm »

Thanks for the update and info!! Grin
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 11:34:16 am »

Been wondering what was on it for a while, that could be the reason no port will touch it.
It would seem that there is missing information. WHY?
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 05:41:36 am »

NSB is holding a press conference today regarding MSC Flaminia. Apparently they got a permission to enter the German waters.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 05:49:35 pm »

Understand she'll eventually be towed to Cuxhaven.
Would like to see pictures of her arrival there.

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2012, 07:28:35 pm »

the german media expect that the Flaminia will be brought to the new Jade Port in Wilhelmshaven, this is the deepest port in Germany. This Port will go official in service on 21th of september 2012. Here on the NSB website is the other information:
in German http://www.reederei-nsb.de/site_de/index.php?node_id=2369
in English http://www.reederei-nsb.de/site_en/index.php?node_id=2339
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 06:56:48 am »

The convoy seems to be meeting up south of Land End with the French specialist rescue and decontamination vessel 'Argonaute' imo 9269518 and the 'Carlo Magno' rejoining once again from Falmouth . . This I presume is where the specialised inspection will take place before allowing the MSC Flaminia to proceed through the English Channel to the North Sea and her destination in Germany.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 07:16:40 am »

In the meantime, odin.tc continues its excellent and unbiased coverage on the incident with questions like "Why the crew left apparently seaworthy vessel without, as the following events demonstrated, any visible threat to crew and the vessel?" and "Why the crew was restricted in contacts, especially with media, after rescue?" Although I agree that we should dig deeper when it comes to British etc. authorities preventing the vessel from entering a sheltered harbour and perhaps (mis)declaring dangerous goods carried in the containers, conspiracy theory crap like that and especially questioning the actions of the crew, of which two died in the incident, make the whole blog smell like a big steaming smoking pile of... err... ship.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 02:12:29 pm »

I wonder if we will ever find out what was/is in those containers on this ship. There has to be a reason why the crew abandoned the ship and why it took so long to negotiate a safe port for the ship. Will be very interesting to see what is released to the "Public". Grin
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 02:39:29 pm »

There has to be a reason why the crew abandoned the ship...

I heard there was a fire.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 07:08:38 pm »

Yes there was/is a fire on board. That is a good reason to abandon a ship when the ship is in danger of sinking or of being completely burned up with nowhere to go. But this ship has stayed afloat for a long time and has been towed around the ocean for weeks. Hasn't sunk yet, may even be salvaged and put back in service. So, why did everybody get off right away? Ship wasn't sinking! Maybe, just maybe there was another reason that made that fire so bad that they abandoned when they did.
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