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 91 
 on: July 26, 2019, 08:56:35 pm 
Started by Ship's Cat - Last post by rene2805
BBC SEATTLE  9352339  Dutch   now   RUSLANA   Russia

 92 
 on: July 25, 2019, 02:07:09 pm 
Started by Michi1997 - Last post by davidships
thanks again, Krispen

 93 
 on: July 25, 2019, 01:16:32 pm 
Started by Michi1997 - Last post by Krispen Atkinson
David, The trawler on the inside is ISBORG - IMO 5139650

Regards,
Krispen

 94 
 on: July 25, 2019, 12:41:20 am 
Started by Michi1997 - Last post by davidships
Two Icelandic trawlers were berthed at Galloo, Gent on 6 Jul awaiting their turn.  One was HERA (IMO 5137236):
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3033866
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3033867

Anyone know the other, berthed inside HERA, but registered at Isafjordur?

Also, I think that FS RANCE (A618) arrived at Gent in June, following RHIN (A621) and RHONE (A622).
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3033884


 95 
 on: July 24, 2019, 07:48:06 pm 
Started by davidships - Last post by pieter melissen
If you are striving for not simplicity, not Lloyds, please, as far as I remember there was a five digits main type code, to be followed by five groups of three digit subcodes....

 96 
 on: July 24, 2019, 06:50:22 pm 
Started by davidships - Last post by simonwp
This is tantamount to opening Pandora's box. Take for instance bulk and ore carriers, which are two separate categories. Do we then put ore carrying bulk carriers under ore carriers? And put them back again under bulk carriers as soon as we see them carrying soybeans or coal?
Then there is the so called con-bulker, which became popular in the eigthies and are still muddling on?  What about the open-hatch bulkers that are now more considered to be general cargo ships, but can take full loads of bulk (probably not ore strengthened though) and containers.

I really have no clear cut answers to this, except that we may end up with one category : Dry Cargo, with three subcategories Fully Cellular container ships, Bulk and ore carriers (anything over 10,000 DWT in there, anything below 10,000 into other drycargo, being the third category.

 

Totally agree with this, most of the problems come from the fact that there are too many categories, and they are too narrowly defined. What's wrong with a simple category such as bulk carriers, offshore / windfarm  support vessels, tankers etc. Then decide what category such as obo's, con-bulk, come into, or have a separate simple category for combination / multipurpose vessels. It works for Miramar. Or use Lloyds categories, so that we follow industry descriptions. As long as it's simple, and easily followed it doesn't matter. The problem is major changes are now difficult with so many photographs on the site.

There's no category for con-ro's, which is a major vessel type.

There will always be some vessels over which there is debate, but simplification should eliminate most of the problems. And if the whole system is simple, it's easier to add a new category if needed.

 97 
 on: July 24, 2019, 02:55:57 pm 
Started by davidships - Last post by itsfoto
It is easy to find examples of ships that might fit into more than one category simultanuously. I see for example squareriggged sailing ships (my personal hobbyhorse) categorized as auxiliaries, as passenger or cruiseships, as traditional sailing ships, too, of course, and what not else. (Incidently in some of these particular cases IMO numbers may not help to find them, either.)
Now, would it cause havoc if the concept of multiple categories for these were to be accepted?
I think not. The ship would still be unique (meaning uniquely identifiable), the category does not need to be exclusive.
Also, ships that change type and purpose in their career can already be found in one or the other category accordingly. That's as it should be. But only personal knowledge of the details can point you to "the other category". Showing relevant categories side by side might give much better information without any cost in functionality or clarity, I believe.
Just a thought.
Uwe

 98 
 on: July 24, 2019, 12:33:05 pm 
Started by davidships - Last post by pieter melissen
This is tantamount to opening Pandora's box. Take for instance bulk and ore carriers, which are two separate categories. Do we then put ore carrying bulk carriers under ore carriers? And put them back again under bulk carriers as soon as we see them carrying soybeans or coal?
Then there is the so called con-bulker, which became popular in the eigthies and are still muddling on?  What about the open-hatch bulkers that are now more considered to be general cargo ships, but can take full loads of bulk (probably not ore strengthened though) and containers.

I really have no clear cut answers to this, except that we may end up with one category : Dry Cargo, with three subcategories Fully Cellular container ships, Bulk and ore carriers (anything over 10,000 DWT in there, anything below 10,000 into other drycargo, being the third category.

 

 99 
 on: July 24, 2019, 06:01:30 am 
Started by Phil English - Last post by Arjana
Hi, as a Falmouth local I can confirm she carries a new name.
Renamed ENERGY ANNABELLE



Many thanks Geoff - That's the information I was looking for.

Brgds
Phil

 100 
 on: July 23, 2019, 05:15:19 pm 
Started by PietB - Last post by Tim J.
Hi, I've been there too. Traffic is obviously too far away to take reasonable photos from the beach, however you do see the ships passing in both directions. Afternoon view from Mirador del Estrecho https://goo.gl/maps/bMyFMA5Xa1i8S5vm7 is impressive (again not for taking photos of ships). On the fastferries to Tanger, there is indeed access to the outside deck, but you are unlikely to hit any (interesting) traffic at the exact moment of crossing at 30+ kn, so this would be just for fun...
There are whalewatching trips from Tarifa port which take a couple of hours and went right in the middle of the straits; apart from seing some dolphins, this is certainly a very good position, unfortunately didn't do it sofar.
Also a nice daytrip to Algeciras with (slow) ferry roundtrip to Ceuta can be done, passing the port of Algeciras, Bay of Gibraltar and the Straits with better chance to see something passing than on the fastferry. So for a couple of days, would definitely recommend the place.
Best regards,
Tim

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