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 on: June 11, 2019, 07:00:39 pm 
Started by dirk septer - Last post by simonwp
The problem with many of the site categories is that they no longer reflect today's modern, multi-purpose shipping, and the descriptors used in to day's shipping industry. This just leads to confusion at time amongst members, as to which is the correct category for their photograph. This particularly applies to offshore vessels, which, due to modules that can be added or removed easily, may operate in different vessel categories on different voyages or charters. Many tankers are now equally capable of carrying crude oil, products and chemicals, and frequently do on back to back voyages to avoid ballast voyages. There is no category for con-ro's etc. It seems the same applies to some of the smaller passenger vessels.

However, there is no easy answer for this site, with over 2.5m photographs posted, it's too big a job to review those already posted, and would be too confusing to introduce new categories. The mistake was made at the outset, in trying to make the categories too narrow, but, unless someone is going to volunteer to undertake a review, I guess we're stuck with it.

 on: June 11, 2019, 03:33:25 pm 
Started by dirk septer - Last post by Pieter Inpyn
On this website the category "passenger vessels" is the leading item for many subcategories and not a single defined category.
On this website the category "passenger vessels" is defined as for more than one passenger carrying vessel on the photo.

So for instance a ferry and a cruise ship, or a harbourtourboat and a yacht in one picture.

The first subcategory is called "cruise ships", defined as more than one cruise ship in the photo.

All other vessels has to be posted in the several subcategories such as cruise ships year1-year2, ferries, motor yachts, etc.

It is the responsibility of the poster / member to post into the appropriate category.

I have spent early this year many days in cleaning the leading category "passenger ships" and moving all single-ship-photo's to the approcriate category (by agreement with the webmasters)

Regards  Pieter  editor

 on: June 11, 2019, 03:12:03 pm 
Started by dirk septer - Last post by rd77
Hi Dirk,

I work in market intelligence for the superyacht industry and this would be a charter passenger vessel to us, as you can book an individual cabin rather than having to book the entire boat.

Best regards,

 on: June 11, 2019, 02:08:50 pm 
Started by dirk septer - Last post by dirk septer

For a second time I got reprimanded of a wrong classification;

Please define whether a charter vessel is a passenger vessel or a motor yacht,

to me (and AIS Marine Traffic and other sites) the proper classification for
Alaska Quest is passenger vessel and not a motor yacht.

Opinions please.

 on: June 11, 2019, 10:47:00 am 
Started by Ship's Cat - Last post by Charles HT
Xaioyi C (IMO 9610509) now DAIANA, Italian flagged

Kopersand (IMO 9084487) now HAV TUNA, AG flagged

Progres (IMO 9001837) now HAV GROUPER, AG flagged

 on: June 10, 2019, 04:39:53 pm 
Started by Ship's Cat - Last post by Sinisa Aljinovic

 on: June 10, 2019, 04:09:55 pm 
Started by Charles HT - Last post by davidships
I think that is taken in the northern part of the 's-Gravendeel basin?  If so, that is more of a general-purpose lay-up facility for smaller seagoing vessels and larger inland barges, rather than a demolition  waiting room.  Only a few of them go eventually to the scrapyards in the southern arm; most are resold, often after judicial sale.

 on: June 10, 2019, 02:08:40 pm 
Started by Charles HT - Last post by Pieter Inpyn
CORNELIGUE was still laid-up at 's-Gravendeel near Dordrecht mid May 2019, see my photo while passing on a river cruise ship:

In that same area are vessels waiting to be scrapped.

 on: June 10, 2019, 10:53:12 am 
Started by Charles HT - Last post by Charles HT
Am I correct in noting that the BURHOU I (BURHO) remains "for sale" locally via Dick van der Kamp while the Corneligue is currently "under arrest" as of March this year?

 on: June 10, 2019, 10:46:14 am 
Started by Brent - Last post by Stephen Chester
MSC's Kiwi service is going from six vessels down to four. Cape Marin, MSC Astrid and Bomar Rossi are leaving, but they are adding Sphene IMO 933058.

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