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1  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Maersk B Class- back to the Loch??? on: November 04, 2012, 03:28:51 am
All of the class had smaller injectors and reprogrammed WEPS systems installed in 2008-2009 to make them more fuel efficient, and more suitable for the slow steaming that was becoming an industry standard.
Always used to be entertaining during my 12-4 afternoon watch, after we had been trundling along at 10kts, to soot blow and go up to 28kts and hurtle past everything. Used to get a few comments over the VHF!

Max sea-trial speed was 32.5kts (on the Buffalo I think). We managed 30kts during ours, but the weather was pretty crappy. Also managed 16kts astern.

They were built for WalMart to be the main customer. The idea was that they could load in China, go through Panama Canal, and discharge on the US East Coast faster than a conventional boxboat could cross Pacific, discharge in LA/SF and trains take the containers to the East Coast.
The theory was sound. At the time they were designed and ordered HFO was around $200 a ton. By the time they started to be built fuel was hitting $600 a ton. And when you burn 300 ton a day at full speed, that's a bloody expensive fuel bill!

Maersk tried all sorts to reduce fuel consumption. We used to sail with a contant head trim. Maersk had commisioned a Danish institute to work out the most efficient trim based on each load condition. Generally it meant a 1.5m trim by the head.
Obviously this complicated fuel uptake, bilge suction, FW suction, closing doors etc.

I have loads of pics of the Brownsville during final stages of construction, and of the Beaumont half way during build (including a few grainy pics of part of the M/E being lowered in) if anyone is interested.

Ancient Mariner - Would love to see you post your B class build pics. Also, we are fortunate to get first hand insight from you on the sea trial experience and also the improvements that APM tried to make on this class of vessel.
2  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Knock Nevis / Mont on: February 20, 2010, 04:42:16 pm
As many of you know, the famous " KNOCK NEVIS" is now being broken up at Alang in India. A fantastic vessel that survived multiple obstacles including being bombed, sunk, global oil pressures and age.
The only picture I have been able to find of her at Alang is this this one -

Does anyone know of any others or have access to any more information about her at the breakers or her final journey? Seems rather odd that the worlds largest vessel and an engineering and maritime icon is just fading away unnoticed.

Any info would be appreciated
3  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Majestic Maersk on: February 16, 2010, 02:11:06 pm
Superb info on the B class. Thanks. It all makes sense, these vessels seemed to be very "niche", for a specific purpose and were designed accordingly. A rather experiment it now seems. Pity that such an innovative design really lived up to its purpose. I am sure the US sealift command on my side of the Atlanta is a viable option since they really seems to have taken in a few of the old L class for their specific purposes.
Lets just wait and see what thr future brings...I have seen a few pictures taken on board these sisters in Scotland and the crews look pretty bored. Must be terribly boring on board when the plant is shut down and the vessel is essentially "mothballed".
4  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Maersk to replace danish officers by asians on: February 16, 2010, 03:46:34 am
While I understand the sentiments expressed on this thread, you should be extremely careful about loosely throwing around terms like "low-quality, standard persons"....what are you implying? That these asian officers are somehow less competent and inferior?
FYI...APM has some massive officer and cadet programs in Asia which are going very well. While I do not think that Maersk is doing anything benevolent in recruiting from Asia, it is understood that this is purely a economical issues and infortunately Asian officers provide cheaper options. This is very unfortunate for all the Danes that are being slowly phased out. Before my present shore based position I sailed for a few years (with many nationalities) and even though there are some valid points above (occasional lack of assertiveness, etc), what we are talking here is about safe, competent and highly trained seamanship. I know for the fact that a lot of the guys Maersk is turning out there from India and the philippines are some of the hardest working folks...totally different culturally than the europeans but the work ethic is commendable. The post about about the "freezing point of Phillipinos".....hmm....what sort of racist nonsense is this? Want to talk about some cultures being a tad lazy on board....lets talk about the Malays and Singaporean I worked with during my time with APM Singapore. The Filipinos and Indians would run rings around them, the Indians technically and the Filipinos on deck with their fantastic work ethic. So stop the generalization of all Asians without more information.
Coming back to my point above, try to be cognizant of the fact that were are a lot of people, many of them seaman from all over the world on this website so any form of prejudice on your part would be highly recommended to be kept to a minimum.

5  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Majestic Maersk on: February 16, 2010, 03:18:27 am
Phil and BWombat,

Very interesting points. Blue Wombat, I am going to take your word that these girls are a bit of a handful, seems like you work for APM so your word is indeed worth more than most! On the top of your head do you ever recall what issues were on the M sisters? I have seen them stay far longer in the fleet than some in the K, S class so I always assumed they had more of a purpose in the APM fleet. I would put my money on some kind of economical benefit that still lingers after all these years.....which is am gathering was not the case when the last L class were all disposed off fairly on schedule.
BTW, I dont know what you are comfortable sharing on the "fast" B class sisters but what on earth is going on with the entire class being parked in a couple of anchorages in Scotland and Thailand?

Any insight would be most helpful!
6  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Majestic Maersk on: February 15, 2010, 04:57:58 am
Just to add to my above post, take a look at this picture of Majestic Maersk from December

If this doesnt indicate her fate then I wonder what is....seems like dry docking has really been stretched to the limit, perhaps waiting for new owners to take posession?
7  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Majestic Maersk on: February 15, 2010, 04:52:44 am
Correct me if I am wrong but isnt Majestic Maersk the last of the original "M" Class vessels still sailing under the AP Moller house flag? All others seem to have been sold to Greek or Canadian interests. I wonder how long before she is handed over to new owners....20 years is really pushing the Maersk tolerance limit!
Nice though to see a beautifully maintained, well-built vessel with a little bit of heritage sailing on the seas in an era of somewhat obscure, cookie-cutter designs on the seas.

Just my 2 cents
8  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: The USS Trenton Joins Indian Navy on: June 23, 2007, 03:29:24 pm

Good point. I forgot to think about the disposal problem and I think you are spot on when you mentioned that the USN saw this as a win-win situation and allowed the Indians could take the vessel off their hands. She probably doesnt have too much advanced US technology when say compared to a Aegis class vessel so there is really nothing to lose.
Maybe our friend Dave (Magogman) can shed some more light on this vessel technology-wize.

9  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: The USS Trenton Joins Indian Navy on: June 23, 2007, 12:25:08 am
Interesting development. I would have not predicted this in a million years considering India is primarily a customer of Russian vessels. I was expecting a purchase by the IAF (Indian Air Force) in the near future but this is surprising. Also the age of these vessels is interesting since I am sure the Indian Navy could have indigenously built one. Maybe the price was too good to pass on!
10  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: "Emma Mćrsk" - Odense Lindř yard No. 203 (World's largest containership) - Pictures / dimensions on: July 16, 2006, 04:39:06 am
Damn, I am now getting excited about this new giant. Moller simply never fails to amaze me with their relentless pursuit of engineering and ship design excellence. This lindo Yard has been the pioneer in a few ship design areas and continues to trailblaze. I remember the day the last " Emma Maersk" was launched, I think in 1993 when she was part of the first double hulled tanker series.
I cannot wait to see the pictures of this new "emma".
11  Shipspotters all over the world / Scale Models / Re: GA plans of Maersk ships. on: May 02, 2006, 04:03:37 pm

Plans for current AP moller vessels are a little hard to come by unless you know someone at the head office or on board. However, I am pasting a link for you which has the general arrangement of 2 recently sold (last 5 years) Maersk VLCC's 'Halden' and 'Protaras' which were the EX-Maersk Neptune and Nautilus. There were built by Hyundai in 1989. Now owned by Polyar Tankers AS.!OpenDocument

If the link is a non-working one, go to Click on fleet and then plans and dwt scale for Halden and Protaras.


12  Shipspotters all over the world / Scale Models / Re: scale models of coasters, freighters, etc. on: April 04, 2006, 04:48:20 am
Very nice models arne. What do you use for shaping the hull and what material...balsa?
I am right now up to my eyeballs in the Deans Marine kit of Trein Maersk which is rather a big project. Hopefully it should be done in a week or two.


13  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: MV „COSCO GUANGZHOU“ on: March 29, 2006, 03:52:29 am
Ha Ha I know exactly what you mean Smiley


magogman wrote:
This may sound rather corny but what I really like is to be able to view photographs of brand new state-of-the-art construction like this vessel and also see the older more classical vessels all on the same web site.  I am spending enough time on this web site to consider it my second home!
14  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: MV „COSCO GUANGZHOU“ on: March 28, 2006, 03:04:49 am
She seems to be a remarkable vessel, yet the Maersk G series vessels are longer...still.
For those of you who have not yet caught her, here is the only picture on shipspotting of her. Notice the new style bridge which is longer on the starboard side and more wing space on the port side.

Nice high freeboard and clean lines, typical of Hyundai Heavy.

15  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: "Hyundai Fortune" (5.500 TEU) now reportedly still afloat after explosions and fire on: March 23, 2006, 02:52:06 pm
Thanks for the information phil. The Tradewinds picture I saw today shows the vessel to be in really bad condition now. The hull looks to be severely damaged on the aft port side and the accomodation is starting to burn as well.
I guess it looks hopeless for her now especially if the Engine Room is damaged beyond reasonable repair.However, if for some reason she is salvageable, then rest assured Sammy Ofer will try to get a good deal on the hull just like the 'LIMBURG' and 'HANJIN PENNSYLVANIA'!

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