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1  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Ice Maiden I still on the Tyne? on: October 22, 2013, 08:28:31 am
Hello Mike,

Thanks for the pic, much appreciated!
2  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Ice Maiden I still on the Tyne? on: October 20, 2013, 10:22:43 am
Also received this message from Hoss the digger driver:

"well chaps I can inform you all that today I pulled this ship in to the old Neptune yard dry dock with my 47 tonne excavator and as of Monday morning she will chopped up for scrap"


End of the road for sure!
3  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Ice Maiden I still on the Tyne? on: October 19, 2013, 09:21:51 pm
Thanks Mike...looking forward to the pics.

It's a shame they couldn't bring the project to a good end.
4  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Ice Maiden I still on the Tyne? on: October 19, 2013, 05:36:28 pm
Recently I learned that the unfinished hull of the Ice Maiden I (ex-Paardeberg, http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_imo=9056894) is still on the Tyne.
I assumed she would have been scrapped already long time ago after the company owning her went bankrupt.

does anybody have more information? Any chance somebody has some recent pics?

Thanks!
5  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: What ever happened to this order? on: October 08, 2013, 09:36:30 pm
Some pics on the Eide Marine Services Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.523658384319699.122786.523206967698174&type=3
6  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Costa Concordia - wreck removal or salvage for repairs and relaunch ?... on: January 22, 2012, 11:50:39 am
The grounding was unintentional but assisted by using the bowthruster, as far as I've heard.

I don't know & it's hard to tell whether the grounding was a blessing or a curse. I think she would have stayed upright loner if they had kept her afloat.
There would possibly have been more time to evacuate the passengers safely.
7  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Costa Concordia - wreck removal or salvage for repairs and relaunch ?... on: January 22, 2012, 11:41:08 am
No, stabiliser fins use the speed of the vessel through the water, they work like wings on a airplane.
The Costa Concordia didn't have any propulsion anymore so no speed through the water.

The slow speed she did make was due to drifting and was sideways as well.
8  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: How old is too Old for a ship on: January 22, 2012, 10:44:18 am
in short: it's all a matter of financial economy.

9  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Costa Concordia - wreck removal or salvage for repairs and relaunch ?... on: January 22, 2012, 10:42:27 am
From what I have seen & read she initially was listing to port but when she was drifted against the coast (hitting the rocks with her underwatership first) the momentum swung her over to starboard. Also taking in the fact that hitting those rocks with her starboard side will undoubtedly have caused damage below the waterline makes it more easy to uderstand why she capsised over starboard.

Maybe they also did some emergency ballasting but I can't be sure of that.

Have to wait for the final report on the accident for answers to a lot of questions.

Although I do recommend haveing a look at www.gcaptain.com, they have some clear posts about the disaster already. Also an explanation of the preceeding actions of the Costa Concordia.
This one explains a lot:
http://gcaptain.com/gcaptains-john-konrad-narrates-the-final-maneuvers-of-the-costa-concordia-video/?37941
the 3 fatal mistakes:
http://gcaptain.com/costa-concordia-3-fatal-flaws-that-led-to-disaster/?37976
and what the captain did right:
http://gcaptain.com/in-defense-of-captain-schettino-the-lives-he-did-save/?37994
10  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Another webcam, this time the Aztec Maiden aground on the dutch coast. on: January 21, 2012, 09:59:41 am
As in the title: a webcam on the beach @ Wijk aan Zee where the Aztec Maiden has run (drifted) aground.

It's not fast & it's not really a clear picture but at least you'll get the idea.

http://www.surfabc.nl/webcam-wijk-aan-zee/
11  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Webcam Costa Concordia on: January 17, 2012, 03:05:25 pm
The one I posted earlier seems to be working as well again.
12  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Webcam Costa Concordia on: January 17, 2012, 01:38:34 pm
Damn, it was working when I posted the above, maybe try later.

This is how it looks, took a screenshot earlier.
13  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Webcam Costa Concordia on: January 17, 2012, 12:32:46 pm
For those who are interested: one of the webcams on the website of Giglio News gives a panoramic of the port and the wreck of the Costa Concordia is in full view.

http://www.giglionews.it/2010022440919/webcam/isola-del-giglio/webcam-giglio-porto-panoramica.html

Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a AIS-site that covers that area, anybody else knows one?
14  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Costa Concordia - wreck removal or salvage for repairs and relaunch ?... on: January 17, 2012, 12:22:52 pm
I'm not an expert but I have been thinking about it as well....it's going to be a difficult situation, all these openings in the superstructure above the waterline, light (so very "fragile") superstructure, the damage done to stb-side where the ship is resting one & apparently the ship isn't laying stable yet.
Then indeed the explosives being used.

My guess it's going to be a wreck removal on the spot, just chop it up & clear it away.

But it's going to be very interesting to see what happens but it's not going to be a quick operation.

BUt we can follow what's going on via this webcam (as long as it keeps working) : http://www.giglionews.it/2010022440919/webcam/isola-del-giglio/webcam-giglio-porto-panoramica.html
15  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: "no cure, no pay" question (relative to Rena) on: January 16, 2012, 10:34:45 am
I doubt Svitzer came in on a "no cure-no pay" contract, after the ship was grounded she was obviously already heaviliy damaged, possible too damaged to salvage in one go. I think they have negotiated a fixed price-contract, possible working from day to day.

The present "no cure-no pay" contracts are no longer "no pay". The salvage companies have to do a load of investements in equipment, manpower, are always on short notice st-by to go all over the world. Nowadays the contracts always award the salvor with a certain amount if he manages to save stuff, protect the enviroment etc etc.

More info here: http://shipsbusiness.com/salvage-contract.html but can also be found readily available on the internet, use the famous Google & you'll find mor einfo then you'll be able to read or comprehend. ;-D
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