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1  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Two large cargo ships have collided in the North Sea on: Yesterday at 01:47:32 pm
here a link to the rules
in this case paragraph 15,16 and 17
2  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Two large cargo ships have collided in the North Sea on: Yesterday at 01:38:30 pm
@ Ann

By regulations the Atlantic Tramp should have changed course to her stb side and the Bulk Costa Rica is in this case the "stand-on-vessel" which means she is supposed to keep course and speed.
However the BCR is also required by the same regulations to initiate the "maneuver of the last moment" if she realizes that the Atlantic Tramp does not adhere to the regulations.(as you can watch in the video the BCR starts turning to her stb side to avoid the collision as it seems way too late) It is for that "moment" rather undefined what is the time/distance for her to do that. It depends greatly on the judgement of the watch officer when he/she feels/knows now it is getting too close.
The maneuver of last moment is defined as the moment where it is clear that the one vessel (in this case Atlantic Tramp) can not avoid a collision anymore by her own actions.
This as you might realize too is again a matter of judgement of the watch officer on the bridge of the BCR.
In other words, human error is easily involved in such matters.
Also my personal experience as Captain, tells me that a few other factors may have been played into the situation too.
For example
a) unfortunately it is teached in some countries nautical schools that the watch officers
   should communicate with the other ship to agree/verify on the passing
   this of course can lead to the next problem. Imagine there are on both ships a WO with
   bad english skills or just on one ship
   I personally overheard some years back in the North Sea that two WO,s agreed
   to pass each other red on green !!!!!
   A few minutes later you could see in the radar and hear in the VHF (frantically calling
   each other) that collision was imminent which in that case still was somehow avoided.

b) Not written standing orders by Masters to the WO,s to change only course after they
   notified the Master. Problem there of course, when that time comes when the officer
   think now I have to call the MASTER, again a rather undefined matter and secondly and
   much more important ,that is totally against common sense to tell a WO not to change
   course without approval of the Capt. If I as Capt do that, then I might as well place
   a distant ring in the radar and place anyone in front of the radar to watch it and the
   moment a ship enters the ring to call the master.
   Again, that means virtually the Master takes any initiative out of the hands of a WO
   and renders him therefore as useless on the bridge.

c) plain and simple, low training standard. I know that some officers do not even know the
   full regulations without looking it up in the COLREGS book.

I honestly can say , I had a few situations , where for example a stand-on (keeping course
and speed) changed course to her port against regulations (Paragraph 17 as per COLREGS)
and when I asked them why they did that the standard answer was: It was better in that
situation !!! (where that can be better is behond me)
the worst answer (some 15 years back) I ever got when I asked the WO after he did it if he knows that it is against the regulation outlined in the COLREGS and handed him the book
I did not involve myself with that book too much yet
and that from a man who was by that time 4 years as WO on a bridge.

3  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Decline of site standard or personal Satisfaction or what ? on: April 21, 2014, 01:11:39 pm
Anyone can explain me why people linking their pictures ?

Is it the "ego" I am the best or a kind of self promotion ?

Are those pictures through that also promoted on other sites ?

Does anyone really believe that other members don,t realize
that pictures are linked when seemingly standard pictures from the same serial getting 100,s of hits in the first 24 hrs.
Usually pics getting high hits when comments are done, or a high profile casualty is involved or special news involved etc etc
But simple pics of simple ships and a whole serial gets 100,s of hits with comments and/or speciality news/events absent.

Is this the wanted site standard for 100.s if not 1000,s of members ?
Come on guys,, I think the site and it's members can do better than that and more important deserve better than that !!!
4  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Two large cargo ships have collided in the North Sea on: April 20, 2014, 06:11:38 pm
The Bulk Costa Rica I saw in Feb 14 on the Mississippi River
Looked nice in paint and like new,also when she was then in her 2nd year
below a picture of her

capt ted
5  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: South Korea ferry carrying 350 sunk. on: April 18, 2014, 10:54:52 pm
@ James

I fully understand what you mean, with more training and possible better real scenario training etc,,but one thing is absolutely not possible to train,,WHAT the reaction in an emergency will be with peoples !!!
Some peoples stay totally calm,,even with adrenaline pumping out their ears (I am one like that, proven in an emergency reality in 2009 and in the course of my career in a few other situations)Some others go in lock down mode, like in the 2009 situation mentioned above,,all peoples aboard functioned good, but the one who did not was the Chief-Officer,,he was total wacked out !!!
And such things you can not train.

6  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Hapag-Lloyd & CSAV merge on: April 17, 2014, 01:28:41 pm
I read the yesterday an article, that it is virtually a take over and not a merger
because afterwards the Hapag shareholders holding 66 $ of the merged companies.
Guess now Hapag will try to take over Hamburg-Sued. That could make them or break them (They will not break because the German Gov will always protect the holy grail of german shipping, God knows why )
Until now, everytime Hapag bought something or took something over the outcome was not good,,neither for the taken over nor for Hapag.
7  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Grounded chinese bulker Mona passage on: April 12, 2014, 01:38:52 pm
@ Juergen
thx a lot for the link
capt ted
8  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Grounded chinese bulker Mona passage on: April 12, 2014, 12:40:35 am
Hi Viktor
yes,,there are more Cabo Rojo,s
I went by that,,not by the port, Pedernales is at the Dominican and Haitian border
and therefore the Dpominican Republic CG is of course in charge
9  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Grounded chinese bulker Mona passage on: April 11, 2014, 09:27:49 pm
They talk below about Cabo Rojo, that's, the SW corner of Puerto Rico in the Mona Passage, what than the Dominican (Domican Republic I assume) Navy has to do with it ?
That should be then USCG
Anyone knows more ?

A Chinese bulk cargo ship laden with bauxite ran aground at Cabo Rojo, southwestern Pedernales province on Monday, said the Dominican Navy, which works with other agencies to prevent damage to the shore, especially nearby Bahia de las Aguilas.

The ship "Great Qin" had set course from the port at Cabo Rojo, bound for the port of Shandong, China.

According to local media, there’s no danger of spill or cracks that compromise its hull thus far.

Navy chief of staff Edwin Dominici met Tuesday with Environment minister Bautista Rojas and Port Authority director Ramon Rivas to coordinate the effort to dislodge the ship and help it resume course
10  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Scot Pioneer and Svitzer Morag on: April 10, 2014, 02:04:38 pm
Most of the times when something like that is done,,then
a) they had a problem before departure,, engine and/or other mechanical, like rudder etc
b) they are known for problems, means a history for it, like black outs before for example

on the Mississippi river I saw same with another ship and asked the pilot,,that bulker had
two break downs on the river the last 3 visits and is now required for the next 3 visits to have escorts.  Pretty expensive matter btw

capt ted
11  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Danio grounding on Farnes - Maib report on: April 09, 2014, 08:03:15 pm
The only way that something is done when for example UK declares vessels in that trade will not allowed entry in UK ports anymore when two watch officers beside the Master are not aboard. I did this trade in 83/84 and again in 97-98 and it is a fact that with two officers the ships can not be handled safely all the time.
But it is all about money and money runs the show.

12  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: MSC KYOTO ran aground in Mobile Ship Channel on: April 08, 2014, 12:38:18 pm
Actually, I would say and personally wonder that this does not happen more often is new worthy.
13  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Hansa Constitution Runs Aground Off Hong Kong Island Coast on: April 08, 2014, 12:31:01 pm
@ Vincent
in the first vid in the second post is in the beginning a white speck in the water,,which looks like a starting and stopping prop.

In the last vid posted seems more voices in the background and phones,,but not radio communication of the ship. Would be also unlikely,,how peoples ashore have radios on that frequencies/channels and beside that, the ships name or any other name of any station is never said,, very unlikely radio traffic for this incident
14  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Hansa Constitution Runs Aground Off Hong Kong Island Coast on: April 07, 2014, 11:54:33 am
It seems to me in the first video that the engine is attempted to start, right in the beginning of the video one can see a white speck on the water behind the ship, looks like the propeller started and stopped again. After that, one can not see any propeller water anymore until the end. The stb anchor was seemingly dropped but for that you don,t need a winch. The anchors should have been ready for use in the port vicinity anyhow. Question is Total black-out?, which of course nowadays also shuts down the main engine.
15  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Cargo Residue,s and how to handle them on: April 06, 2014, 01:27:37 pm
@ Peter
The standard procedure nowadays,,finger pointing to ships !!!.. I make since years pictures of dirt in ports,, like plastic/waste/dead animals etc etc
one day I will publish them. But it is much easier to point fingers to a foreign ship then to point to the own population to keep the country clean or "god beware" require that from tourists,, much more easier: bad bad sailors,, no lobby and no help
and put one to jail for a while for a enviromental misshap is the best for authorities to show how tough they are on enviromental regulations,, only not for themselves !!
For example,,the houston Ship channel is called for a reason the Houston SHIT Channel or
the Ghent canal,, once you are alongside,,within hrs the space between pier and ship is full plastic and whatever,,but that,s normal,,then moment a sailor throws a cigarette butt into the water,,the authorities getting active !!!!
A joke all over the world by now

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