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1  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: CSCL Indian Ocean aground on Elbe on: February 09, 2016, 01:20:44 am
Lets hope it works to get her off
otherwise they have a real problem on their hands !!!!
2  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: CSCL Indian Ocean aground on Elbe on: February 07, 2016, 09:52:26 pm
Use off anchor.  It is nowadays regarded as NOT TO DO in certain circumstances and this is one of them.

1) The anchor will not hold the ship or  slow it substantial down on that short distance.

2) It is even dangerous when the anchor itself gets dragged along and then sits suddenly between the   river floor and the ship and rips open the hull of the vessel, next thing is a oil spill and such.

3) Even if the anchor manages to stop the ship the very same will turn, grounding side ways in the fairway which leads to a blockage of the very same, which is the good case, but it could be that she also sits then with the bow and stern on the ground and breaks in the river in two pieces
Imagine that,, oil spill,, and the river blocked for days/weeks ?

So if it was not dropped or was not dropped because it was not there was possibly the good thing on this case.. The missing starboard anchor did not contribute at all to the incident. If not reported, not good for that matter, but otherwise rather unimportant to what has happened
3  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: CSCL Indian Ocean aground on Elbe on: February 07, 2016, 12:49:01 am
@ Ventuari

I had such situations also a few times, and until now lucky that nothing really came out of it.
One time it was damned close ,,though
The Houston Ship (shit) Channel is known for those close encounters. Hate to go that one up and down !!!

capt ted
4  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: CSCL Indian Ocean aground on Elbe on: February 06, 2016, 04:54:00 pm
@ hole drille and BobS
Sorry,,can,t and don,t see what you see

If you look careful, at seq 12th min, at the end. the Empire is already with a heading
to her starboard and would pass port-port. The Indian Ocean however is starting during that time period
already to turn to her port side. With that she actually in such situation turns to the WRONG side , special because the fairway is straight no need to turn at that time because of the Fairway, if at all she wanted or they thought they have a situation to avoid the Empire she should have turned to the starboard. However she starts turning to her port at a time where the Empire shows her already her port side.
For me it is clear that
a) she really gives port rudder and therefore she is at fault by not following the rules
b) that the rudder is out and stuck on a port setting and no chance anymore to avoid the grounding

one could argue that the Empire should have stayed on the green side and let pass the Indian Ocean green/green, but she passed clear to the red side and the Indian Ocean starts turning to her port side when the Empire was already on a clear pass red/red course
5  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: CSCL Indian Ocean aground on Elbe on: February 05, 2016, 03:28:25 pm
Well Bob
If you watch careful ahead,,the fairway is straight to the next green buoy and if the EMPIRE would have been considered a problem the reaction should have been to steer the ship more to the starboard side and not to the port.

6  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: CSCL Indian Ocean aground on Elbe on: February 04, 2016, 04:44:32 pm
operating cost is negligible compared with the daily loss of time and schedule. Not only the ship also the containers aboard are exspected somewhere,,just in time delivery comes to mind !!!!
The waiting chain behind is much worst !!!

operating cost,, well crew is relative cheap,, the fuel consumption is of course depending on how much KW is needed to run live-reefers for example,,, but overall a rather low cost compared to what one thinks.
the fuel consumption is the highest cost for such ships,,but the main engine is stopped, therefore again most probably rather low with what one might think because of the size of the ship

What is not in the picture the Insurance and financing costs,,those can run rather high
7  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: The Loran C system discontinued from 31 Dec 2015 on: January 01, 2016, 01:39:33 am
there goes another part of shipping history
8  Shipspotters all over the world / Help and Advice / Re: Marine Traffic photos on: December 30, 2015, 09:54:33 pm
I am not a ADMIN and never will be but my point

when it is in CFD section it should not be visible anymore and therefore the "uproar" effect is gone.
If then the member still wants answers he may of course contact the ADMIN who placed it in the CFD section. Don,t see a problem there at all with.

capt ted
9  Shipspotters all over the world / Site related news, functions and modules / Re: Can I post these photos on: November 18, 2015, 06:45:47 am
10  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: MAERSK cuts 4000 jobs !!!! on: November 07, 2015, 02:21:52 pm
As young sailor a old Capt told me: ordering ships in good times is the easy part, running them in bad is the virtue !!!!    How true !!!
Now it seems they got the bad time with the crisis and during the crisis they thought they can fix the problem by expanding the crisis through more and bigger ships. No idea where that mathematics comes from,, such behavior usually is only seen in governments and we know all how that works !!
11  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / MAERSK cuts 4000 jobs !!!! on: November 05, 2015, 08:12:42 pm
It will be interesting to see how far they go down.
AS often,, seemingly invincible companies falling the deepest when the fall comes.

below from the Maritime Connector

The world’s biggest container-ship operator is altering course, slashing jobs and canceling or delaying orders for new vessels after years weathering a sharp downturn in the container-shipping market.

Danish conglomerate A.P. Møller-Maersk A/S said Wednesday its Maersk Line container-shipping unit would cut 4,000 jobs from its land-based staff of 23,000. It is also canceling options to buy six Triple-E vessels, the world’s largest container ships, to cope with the deepest market slump in the industry since the 2009 global financial crisis. Maersk said it would also push back plans to purchase eight slightly smaller vessels.

The decision to halt its fleet expansion represents a significant U-turn for the company, which had been investing heavily amid the downturn. Counting on its market-share dominance and deep pockets, it aimed to expand as smaller competitors retrenched. But after issuing a surprise profit warning last month, Maersk signaled it, too, was no longer immune to a combination of slowing global growth and massive container ship overcapacity on many routes.

The conglomerate said it would cut its annual administration costs by $250 million over the next two years and would cancel 35 scheduled voyages in the fourth quarter. That is on top of four regularly scheduled sailings it canceled earlier in the year.

Maersk has already ordered 27 vessels this year, including 11 Triple-E behemoths, which can carry in excess of 19,000 containers.

“Given weaker-than-expected demand, this will be enough for us to grow in line with our ambitions over the next three years or so,” said Maersk Line Chief Executive Søren Skou.

The Triple-E orders were placed at South Korean yard Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. and included a nonbinding option to order six more ships. Maersk officials said that under the terms of the deal, the Danish company isn’t subject to any damages for canceling the option. DSME wasn’t immediately available for comment.

Although such options aren’t included in the order books of shipbuilders until they become solid orders, a move like Maersk’s represents a psychological blow for the global shipbuilding industry as well. Ships like the Triple-E go for more than $150 million each, and orders for them have helped cushion the blow for dwindling orders for other ship types.

In recent months, for instance, yards have suffered dozens of order cancellations for dry-bulk carriers and offshore drilling vessels. Those two shipbuilding markets have been hit hard by slowing global demand for commodities and weaker OIL PRICES, respectively.

Maersk Line is the world’s biggest container operator in terms of capacity. The job reductions announced Wednesday will be completed by the end of 2017.

The cost-cutting comes after the full-year profit warning in October, the latest in a series of dire forecasts from the global container-shipping industry. Maersk Line’s full-year underlying earnings are expected to come in at $1.6 billion, compared with an earlier forecast of more than $2.2 billion.

The conglomerate is expected to report its third-quarter results on Friday, but has already said profit for the period would be $778 million, compared with $1.47 billion a year earlier.

The last time Maersk Line cut its staff was in 2008, at the height of the global economic crisis, when it shed about 5,000 people.

Over the past three years, the world’s top 20 container operators have moved to either consolidate or form alliances, in an effort to cut costs amid the downturn.

But Maersk and its biggest competitors have also spent billions of dollars to buy giant ships, like the Triple-E vessels. Cheaper to steam and more efficient when full, these new ships have swollen the world’s fleet.

Analysts estimate the industry suffers from as much as 30% overcapacity on some of the busiest ocean trade routes. Container ships move more than 95% of the world’s manufactured goods.

New ship deliveries will boost capacity by 1.7 million containers, or 8.2%, while demand growth should top out at 2% this year, the lowest since 2009, estimates Jonathan Roach, a container analyst at London-based Braemar ACM Shipbroking.

“It’s one of the worst periods in container shipping, and prospects for the near-term don’t look good,” he said.

Amid the industry rout, German container shipping line Hapag-Lloyd AG and Chile’s Compania Sud Americana De Vapores merged last year to form the world’s fourth-largest operator by capacity.

Chinese state-controlled shipping giants China Ocean Shipping Co., or Cosco Group, and China Shipping Group Co. are in merger talks, focused on combining the groups’ container-shipping units.

Such full-blown mergers have been rare in recent years. Instead, the biggest lines have embraced alliances with competitors, sharing space on each other’s ships, as well as infrastructure like port operations and service vessels.

Maersk pushed hard for a mega-alliance between itself and Geneva-based Mediterranean Shipping Co. and French giant CMA CGM SA, the industry’s No. 2 and No. 3 players, respectively. Chinese regulators scotched that deal, which drove Maersk into a smaller alliance with MSC Mediterranean Shipping Co.

Slowing growth in China and the eurozone’s anemic economy have pushed freight rates to levels that barely cover fuel costs. The rates have been hovering well below $1,000 a container on the main Asia-to-Europe trade loop for much of the year, much lower than the $1,300-a-container average that ship operators say they need to break even in the long-term.

Those rates come during what is supposed to be peak season for container shipping, as retailers stock up on clothing, electronics, home appliances and toys ahead of the year-end holidays.

12  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Confronting the safety challenge - Maritime industry on: November 05, 2015, 07:53:50 pm
Take the internet off from the ships/rigs , like the permanent connections to control rigs/ships and let crews do it  and BINGO problem gone !!!!
OH NOOOOOOOooooo not possible,,crew is always too expensive and technic is always cheap DuuuuuuHHHHHH.
13  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: A Triple E among container vessels to be laid up on: October 30, 2015, 05:22:30 pm
Hi Lappino

Well I whish I had be wrong !!!!!

But basic mathematics, which I was taught in 1st and 2nd grade told me that it will happen.
I wonder if those managers who are now in the problems ever were in 1st and 2nd grade ,looks to me more that they skipped those important years of school :-)

I fear that one or two of the real big may be skirting bankcrupcy or even become insolvent.
How an old Capt told me when I was a young sailor,, ordering them in good times is the easy part,,running them in bad times is the skill !!!!
Excatly that seems to show more and more,,todays managers only thinking from quarter to quarter with their eyes on the bonus programs and not on the years to come !

14  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Bulker aground in Patricia aftermath on: October 27, 2015, 10:55:49 pm
Like it or not,,that ship is history :-(((
15  Shipspotters all over the world / Consultations and review of site standards / Re: Category standards: Ships in Drydock on: October 23, 2015, 11:23:55 pm
I think present standard is fine, has to be rather loosely looked at for the sake of seeing things which often is totally impossible to see for most people here.
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