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1  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Spain seems not to lern lessons, oil spills Canary Islands on: April 18, 2015, 11:15:30 pm
With the Erika they did the same already,,, seems like some governments never lern it !!!

A Russian fishing vessel is leaking oil into the sea after it caught fire and was towed out of the port.

Coastguards are battling to contain a four-mile oil slick off beaches on the Canary Islands.

The oil is spewing from a Russian fishing vessel carrying 1,409 tons of fuel.

Environmentalist group Greenpeace criticised authorities for towing the burning fishing vessel out to sea after it caught fire in Las Palmas port early on Sunday.

Spain has launched an investigation into why the ship was taken out of the port and sunk, as oil spills can be harder to contain in the open sea.

The Oleg Naydenov sank 15 nautical miles south of Gran Canaria. Television images showed oil floating on the water.

Spain has sent three tugboats and two light aircraft to control the leak, Public Works Minister Ana Pastor told reporters. Experts were trying to locate a robot which could dive 2.4 kilometres deep to inspect the wreck.

The state prosecutor for the Canary Islands has started an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the sinking, a government spokesman said. The waters to the south of the islands are populated by turtles and dolphins.

The accident stirred memories of Spain’s worst environmental disaster when the Prestige oil tanker sank off the northwestern coast of Spain in 2002.

The Prestige was carrying over 50 times more oil than the Oleg Naydenov, but Greenpeace said the Russian ship nevertheless posed a significant threat.

“The hull and tanks of a ship in such bad condition could already be breaking up under the kind of pressure found at such depths,” the group said in a statement.

Oil spills can be harder to contain in the open sea and environmentalists recommend damaged ships are dealt with in ports or bays.

The World Wildlife Fund said the area where the ship had sunk had deep-sea coral and a significant population of bottle-nosed dolphins.
2  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: South Korea plans feasibility study for Sewol salvage on: April 16, 2015, 11:46:45 am
Just my view,,so guys, you don,t have to jump up and down because my view is may be not in line with the majority. Smiley

I wondering why it is that nowadays ,usually at any cost, salvages/searches are done
and/or planned for anything one can think off . Sewol now possible,,even the feasibility study will cost tons of money.
The malaysian flight as bad as it is,,they still search,,what they want to do,, search the globe around for anything and everything ?

Yes I hear it already how someone can say and/or bring it up, families seek closures, yes I can understand that, but are those very families are also willing to pay at least in parts for the searches or should they ?

Also when we think nowadays everything is solvable with a right klick on the pc mouse,, people have to understand that it is not !!! 
All that money wasted can be spend on much better causes, malnutrition of children around the globe for example

3  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: ship classification society on: April 15, 2015, 10:24:02 pm
Hi Phil
in principe you are right, however vessels can have no classification.
Unlikly though. Reason:  A owner can build a ship as long he follows the rules. The real problem would start for him that P and I and Hull/damage insurance will not insure the ship
that easy. so the easiest way to do it to let it classify by a IACS member, like you said,, ABS-NKK, DNV-GL, LR and so on.
the other thing charterers will not so easy charter /employ a ship without classification
and cargo operators only,,like voyage charters, what we do a lot,, Like ADM/Cargill etc they will also not take ships with no class.

Ships registered in "not so perfect countries" and will say trading only within the countries limits have often no class anymore.
Class withdrawn means either as you stated change of class, or really withdrawn because
sub standard and/or sold and nobody knows. Laid-up can be too,, yearly surveys cost a lot money,,so if longer times laid-up,, they could let lapse the surveys, and then re-survey once the ships moving again.
4  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Photography Ban in Kings Lynn port. on: March 21, 2015, 06:01:38 pm
ISPS is about money/pensions and power and not about ship or port security !!!!
It was a god send for any governmental institution around the GLOBE !!!
5  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: One of the two big locks in Brunsbuettel damaged by Saint George on: March 21, 2015, 12:36:30 pm
holy crap !!!!
6  Shipspotters all over the world / Site related news, functions and modules / Re: SHIPS TO BE RECLASSIFIED / WAITING IDENTITY DETAILS on: March 18, 2015, 04:39:21 pm
@ Dan


good points,, but it comes all down to:  do the peoples still LIKE to come here.

Some members are so "fed-up" with this site that one goes seldom still on
or uploading is not a regular anymore but a now-and-then matter. Take me, usually when I am on vacation I easily load up 2-3000 pictures. Now I have about 4-5000 stand by, and really not sure if I still should. In other words, peoples loosing interest, it was once a superb site, but it is now way off from those times in my personal opinion
There are surely superb ADM,s which do a splendid job day by day, but others do not so splendid.
It is all a "come together" on one platform or not that seems to be lost here.

Sometimes one thinks if one does not have old pictures/passenger vessels or whole picture in light blue one is not a "wanted" member anymore.
In the comment section, it goes more about the liveree,s or not and if it is fitting or not then about ships in general.
And taking now the "hit" matter into account too, and that the site had lately a lot technical problems, including e-mails are not going through then the "never-mind-attitude" is increasing ten fold.

capt ted

7  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Problem of lost shipping containers (WSC survey) - Cargo overboard on: March 13, 2015, 03:30:43 pm
@ Graig
I was called by planners and their boss and asked through the flower if I can ignore stresses which would be very profitable for them and me !!!!

8  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Problem of lost shipping containers (WSC survey) - Cargo overboard on: March 12, 2015, 01:16:16 pm
I second you on that Greg
It is absolutely impossible to track the containers and/or weight on a ship
I personally had it when we got the stowplan and verified it per our computer, it gave a few alarms, mostly over stack weights and we told them to move them somewhere else. The planners did that,, but just one slot to the side or ahead, so the previous alarm was gone, but therefore you had a overstack weight somewhere else.
A lot of planners trying really to do a good job, but I met also planners they did not care whatsoever. Ships side can not do much, beside stop loading until the stowplan is correct, but WOW,,they scream then from all sides @ you !!!!!!!
9  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Carla Maersk collision in Houston on: March 11, 2015, 06:53:23 pm
10  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Hamburg Süd seals CCNI deal on: March 10, 2015, 07:32:44 pm

H-sued,, UASC,,new to me,,but makes perfect sense, both companies with money and good management if one goes by that they never really struggled to stay afloat.
That merger H-Sued-UASC,, will have deep pockets. They could come on the idea and take over Hapag one day and if Hapag tries,,it will be really profitable for the H-Sued shareholders.
At least that I would think
11  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Hamburg Süd seals CCNI deal on: March 10, 2015, 07:27:35 pm

you are correct, it was the billionaer family,,not the government

However,, they still went more or less bankrupt or is that also different

pleased to hear from an expert :-)
12  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Hamburg Süd seals CCNI deal on: March 10, 2015, 06:44:58 pm
@ Charles

that sounds a little different from other sources. But be it as it be,,the main point is that CSAV was virtually bankrupt,, or do you want to tell me that that is not correct ?

13  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Polish shipbuilding and prejudices on: March 07, 2015, 01:55:50 pm
@ Northkedinger & Ian

thanks guys,, but somehow my hat-band busted when I read this guys posting, and seemingly not only mine. Typical view of certain peoples who always looking for other peoples failure but never looking in the mirror to see where they went possibly wrong !!!

When one listens to the VHF traffic at sea, the moment two pol officers talking first question is,,how much the salary is, they understood right away capitalism when it is to their advantage, but seemingly loosing it right away when with the capitalism the reality comes too !!!!!
14  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: First IMAX theater at sea, Carnival Vista, United States on: March 06, 2015, 09:59:31 pm
I hope they excluding the Captains from the beer tastings !!!!!
15  Shipspotters all over the world / Shipping News and information / Re: Polish shipbuilding and prejudices on: March 05, 2015, 02:45:06 pm
@ Wuka

seemingly ,as mentioned before, you would love to live back in the old days.
I can remember times where german companies overnight took the complete german crews off (Sloman) and complete polish on. Do you really believe that happened because polish sailors are that much better.  German Master salary at that time (non german flag) 13-15000 DM and polish masters 2500 $ !!!!   I still had in 2006 just under 9000 Euro while my polish reliever had $ 5500.  Today there are no german young sailors on ships left, beside some german companies with german flag. In the company where I work 40% of Masters are polish
the rest is Filipino. There are a few german/ex-yugoslavian sailors in between.
Do you really believe that has to do with qualification or with salaries or subsidies or german and dutch goverments which were hell bend to bankrupt polish ship yards.?
It is plain and simple capitalism, where the whole eastblock could not wait to get it and now acting surprised that it is not receiving only.
Look Spain,,years and years they got massiv money from Brussels and they were the first to object against the entering of the 10 former east block nations to the EU because they knew that they would mutate from receiver state to pay state.
Btw,,I whish as german sailor that the old days would be back.  As stated end 80.s I made 13000 DM,,,now I make less than then that. with the iron curtain up again my salary would be today equivalent to 20000 DM and not barely above 10000 Euro !!!
You might want to have a second look on that what you stating here. I even don,t say that from your point of view you are wrong, but you might want to change the view angle.

Not the EU or anyone else bankrupted Poland or the East-block,,the political system in those
countries did that.  best example,, the germans are renown to make things work,,, even they could not manage it in former DDR (E=Germany) to make it work !!!! 

capt ted
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