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Title: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 03, 2008, 03:11:49 pm
With the sudden crash in the shipping markets there is now evidence of a wave of ships being formally laid up in ports around the U.K. and on the continent. So far, we have:

Southampton - ATLANTIC BRIDGE and MARGARET HILL
Tees - CALA PORTOFINO and CALA POSITANO (due shortly)
River Fal - SETUBAL (to be confirmed, but would appear to be laid up)
Tilbury  - EMARAUDE FRANCE, SPEEDONE, EGLANTINE, IPSWICH WAY and OSTEND WAY. (the last 3 to be confirmed, but they have not moved since mid-November)

Plus there is a gaggle of container feeders at Hamburg, thanks to photos posted by one of our correspondents there.

There are also reports that Zodiac are laying up a container ship at Southampton, but they are not disclosing which one. There is nothing on AIS to suggest that anything has arrived yet, but can any of our local correspondents in the Solent area confirm?

Any further news of ships arriving for lay up, please post in this thread. Thanks.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on December 03, 2008, 03:45:10 pm
HD1 Laid up in Newhaven


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on December 03, 2008, 05:01:03 pm
Hi Phil

Not sure about Margaret Hill strictly being laid up - I thought she was awaiting conversion to a floating LPG production/storage facility.  Interestingly, Atlantic Bridge sailed for Brazil after just a week at 101 berth.  Morning Cloud is on the list as being at Southampton until 04:2009, but no doubt if there is a sudden surge in demand for bulkers, she'll be off sooner..

The lay-up of the Costa Container vessels must be very worrying for the builders.  Stocznia Szczecińska Nowa have orders in hand for two updated versions, B170/V and also two B178/III vessels for the same company.  Bear in mind it was the cancellation of the delivery of two B591 vessels, one almost complete, from another Italian company, Lloyd Sardegna in 2002, that was instrumental in the bankruptcy of Stocznia Szczecińska in that year.   I hope Italian lightning does not strike twice at the same yard.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on December 03, 2008, 06:57:02 pm
I'm pretty sure the Pride of Telemark is still laid up following her accident last year. All repairs I think are finished, but she never got back into service with Kystlink, who, of course, have since gone bankrupt. :-(


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 04, 2008, 09:08:44 am
Allan,

Thanks for the info about the ATLANTIC BRIDGE. I hadn't realised she'd gone. As for the MARGARET HILL, yes, there is a potential plan for her to be converted, but that's still in the pipeline. In the meantime, she has struggled to find work in the spot market and has spent most of this year idle. Effectively, she is laid up.

I don't see the connection between the yard and the laying up of the two containerships. Ships are lying idle because of the current economic slump and where they are built has no bearing on this. However, Szczecin Nowa, the restructured Szczecin Shipyard, is already in dire financial difficulties and has been for some time. Along with the other main Polish yard at Gdynia, they have to pay back millions of Euros in illigal state aid. The assest of the yards will be sold off, or alternatively they face bankrupcly, but whatever happens shipbuilding is likely to end. As it is, they are struggling to complete orders which are running 1-2 years behind schedule, the owners having walked away in most instances.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 04, 2008, 09:09:54 am
Thanks Ferryman for your help on this.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on December 04, 2008, 10:18:06 am
Hi Phil

My point about the yard is that if CCL are laying up existing vessels, they are not likely to want new ones of the same type delivered.

Regarding the EU attitude to shipbuilding, it is quite likely that their rules regarding subsidies will kill off shipbuilding completely in both Poland and Croatia, as it prepares for EU membership.  Is that what the EU want ??   A huge rise in unemployment, and crumbling economies that will still have to be subsidised in some form by UK, Germany and France !!!

The EU has never stopped the French subsidising their inefficient airline Air France, (or their railways for that matter) or various farmers around Europe who seem to benefit from the ludicrous CAP - just what do the mandarins of the EU have against shipbuilding?

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 04, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
Allan,

You may well be right, but because of SSN's woes, the vessels CCL has on order there will probably not be built anyway, irrespective of how well or badly the shipping markets perform. In fact CCL may be on to a good thing. They will not get the ships, but because it is SSN defaulting and not CCLs choice to cancel, they will get compensated for any downpayments made.

As for the EU, they probably realise (if they have any sense) that EU shipbuilders are unable to compete with the efficiency and productivity of Korean, Japanese and, to a lesser extent, Chinese yards, so throwing public money at a failing industry is not wise. Even with massive subsidies, Polish yards were struggling to complete orders on time.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Bob Scott on December 04, 2008, 03:02:55 pm
Phil:
At two years behind schedule, Polish shipyards would seem to have improved their performance in the 20-odd years since I last visited them.
At that time, they had about a five-year lead-time but their big sales gimmick for attracting orders from the West was the guarantee to shipowners that if they ordered a ship in 1984, they'd take delivery of it in about 1989 or 1990, but at 1984 prices. It was a case of "anything to get hard currency". In fact, so bad was Poland's hard-currency situation in the 1980s that shipowners were having to purchase western-made equipment themselves from the manufacturers and have it sent to Poland for installation in their newbuildings.
The most prominent victims of this problem at the time of my 1984 visit were the four B494 "Super Night Ferries" for Stena Line. They had been ordered in 1979, two each from the Paris Commune yard in Gdynia and the Lenin yard in Gdansk. Only two (Stena Germanica and Stena Scandinavica) were actually delivered to Stena - in 1987 and 1988. The others (which were to have been Stena Polonica and Stena Baltica) were sold off before completion an were laid up in the Polish yards until at least 1989, before being towed away for completion in Greece. One of them  - B494/04, now named Regent Sky - is still in an incomplete state in Greece, nearly 30 years after it was first ordered.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on December 04, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
Hi Phil

That's as may be, but surely it is a government's responsibility to look after its workforce.   The closure of the yards in Poland and Croatia would cause a huge increase in unemployment (which is high anyway) - and who will have to pay for these unfortunates to survive.  Surely it is better to keep a workforce meaningfully employed by means of industry subsidies than to lay them off and and have to pay them benefits.

As for the EU realising it can not compete with Korea and China, what do we in Europe do - simply stop manufacturing anything and hand world production to the Far East.   Looking at the recent woes of the banking industry we don't even seem to be able to run 'service' industries.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 04, 2008, 03:43:59 pm
Absoluetely right Bob. Polish yards have never performed well, at least in recent times. They also struggled with orders for sophisticated open-hatch bulkers placed by Gearbulk and Westwood at Gdansk and Gdynia respectively. Both sets of orders suffered long delays and only some of the Gearbulk ships were ever built. Westwood took delivery of 4 out of  8 ships ordered in 2000, but walked away from the others. Gdynia still optimistically include the final ships in their orderbook with delivery in 2011 !!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 04, 2008, 03:57:53 pm
Allan,

That's a fair point, but if ship owners won't order ships in Europe, what can you do? Established yards in the Far East are proven to be efficient, productive and ship owners are getting good value for money. Many ship owners simply refuse to take the risk and order anywhere else. Sure, there are areas where European yards do have the edge over their Far-Eastern counterparts, notably in the building of cruise ships and ferries. Unfortunately, I can't see the European shipbuilding industry doing anything other than falling further and further behind their rivals, especially as Far Eastern yards are sitting on huge orderbooks stretching 4-5 years ahead and in no rush to take on new contracts in the current uncertain climate. On the other hand, European yards, who managed to take advantage of the shipbuilding boom and snatch orders away from the far east by offering earlier delivery slots are now nervously looking ahead.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Edward Nightingale on December 04, 2008, 04:05:30 pm
The car carrier Palma sailed from Portbury early on 28/11 to lay up in Falmouth (joining the Setubal)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: DanSTN on December 04, 2008, 07:15:34 pm
The 149,513dwt Bulk Carrier Waterford is due alongside 101 berth in Southampton tomorrow. I would assume this will be a short lay-up as there are still a couple cruise ships scheduled to use the berth before christmas.

This will mean there are two Zodiac managed bulk carriers laid up at Southampton.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Bob Scott on December 05, 2008, 02:43:12 am
A week is a long time in politics, they say. And so it is, too, in shipping.
This time a fortnight ago I would have been prophesying that we could be seeing a huge number of (especially older) containerships being put into lay-up, not just because of the down-turn in just-about every type of shipping you can think of but also because the bottom had fallen out of the scrap-steel market.
Unwanted and ‘unscrappable’ box-ships, I thought, would soon be tied-up several-abreast on buoys all over the world, waiting to see what picked-up first: the container trades or the price of scrap.
Now I read that scrap prices have started to rally (a little) while freight rates continue to nose-dive.
So I would advise that you ship photographers who have not yet managed add to your collection pics of museum-piece containerships like MSC’s nearly-30-years-old Stefania, Giulia, Mee May and Anastasia try to get one soon!
If scrap prices continue to improve, these and many more old-timers, I suspect, will be by-passing the indignity of lay-up and proceeding straight to the beaches at Alang and Gadani.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 05, 2008, 09:08:06 am
Thanks Edward and Dan for those snippets of info.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 05, 2008, 09:22:22 am
Hold on to your hat Bob. Ship demolition prices are extremely volatile and can fluctuate considerably week on week. The supply of tonnage and local steel plate prices have a huge effect and just because prices have improved this week doesn't mean that they will continue to improve. It's a messy situation for sellers who comnitted ships at, say, $300/ldt 3 weeks ago then finding that upon delivery today buyers are reneging on deals because the demo prices and steel plate prices have suddenly dropped. Classic case is the VLCC A Elephant which was comitted in August for $750+ per ldt, failed, was recomitted at around $700/ldt, but when the vessel arrived at Chittagong, prices had dropped so much that the buyers tried to renegotiate. The sellers obviously decided that thay didn't want to receive some $300/ldt less than what was agreed, so they promptly decided to refix the vessel for trade. Then the buyers had the ship arrested......


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: JonHare on December 05, 2008, 10:35:06 pm
Quote

BobS wrote:
If scrap prices continue to improve, these and many more old-timers, I suspect, will be by-passing the indignity of lay-up and proceeding straight to the beaches at Alang and Gadani.


Or in the dry dock of TERRC Seaton Port, Graythorp Yard, Hartlepool.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on December 05, 2008, 10:48:00 pm
Seafrance Manet laid up in Calais
Pride of Canterbury Laid up in Dunkerque, should be back in service soon, only laid up due to requiring repairs


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: DanSTN on December 07, 2008, 12:56:20 am
Another Bulk Carrier due at Southampton. 35287dwt Broadgate due to 47 berth on the 9th December. I would strongly assume this is for lay-up

With the Margaret Hill, Morning Cloud and Waterford alongside we will have 4 large vessels laid-up in Southampton.

Can any of the more experienced members comment on how this compares to the situation in the 80's?? I can just about recall the Burmah Endeavour being alongside for a few years, but was there much else laid up in Southampton, or any other UK ports?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Nathan on December 07, 2008, 07:49:18 am
Hi All,

The CALA POSITANO arrived Saturday Morning (6th) on the Tees. She is currently sitting alongside her sister vessel, CALO PORTOFINO.

Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 11, 2008, 10:34:42 pm
Bulk carrier SWIFT SPLASH IMO 7928067 due River Fal 1400 12/12/08

Car carrier SETUBAL IMO 7812452 has now left River Fal for Spain

Car carrier PALMA IMO 8213859 was due but cancelled finding cargo


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 13, 2008, 09:47:18 pm
Bulk carrier VOYAGER II IMO 8313971 Loa 195 m at Hull since 04/11/08  (Britannia Bulk Carriers,  See http://www.britbulk.com/ )


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Nathan on December 14, 2008, 04:03:21 pm
Hi All,

Here are two shots taken of the the CALA PORTOFINO and CALA POSITANO which are layed up at Teesport:

Picture 1 (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=793216)
Picture 2 (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=793209)

Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 14, 2008, 11:03:37 pm
As well as Voyager II in KG dock there is Defiant II in Alexander dock since 15th November. These are probably not technically laid up. Voyager is listed on the Humber Shipping movements as 'under arrest', having presumably transgressed some technical or engineering item, and a link to a previous post suggests that the owners of both are in administration. Given that the average administrator probably does not know much about operating bulkers, we could well see them there for a while yet!
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 15, 2008, 12:01:09 am
Bulk carrier BROADGATE IMO 8213847 in Lyme Bay since 13/12/08 is due Southampton 18/12/08


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 15, 2008, 11:01:10 am
Thanks to all for the info. Keep it coming  :-)

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 18, 2008, 03:06:29 pm
Bulk carrier SWIFT SPLASH IMO 7928067 reported due to lay up in River Fal 12/12/08 being idle in Falmouth Bay sailed 12/12/08 for St Petersburg

Bul carrier BROADGATE IMO 8213847 reported due to lay up in Southampton 18/12/08 remains idle in Lyme Bay 18/12/08 with RUTLAND, DAPHNE, NORD STEEL and ALKAIOS


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 18, 2008, 08:46:30 pm
Berge Atlantc is also lying idle in Lyme Bay.
Broadgate is now heading for Southampton, expected tomorrow.
In Falmouth Bay are still Palma, and Autocarrier. Autocarrier currently due to lay-up tomorrow morning.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 19, 2008, 03:35:46 pm
Autocarrier laid up off Tolverne this morning, in River Fal.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 19, 2008, 05:39:38 pm
Bulk carrier BROADGATE IMO 8213847 arrived Southampton 19/12/08


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 19, 2008, 05:47:30 pm
News of Coastal Bulk's decision to cease trading is spreading (former Lapthorn's). Appears their fleet are heading to moorings in Thames and Medway. Notice already on moorings in the Thames, Ardent and Martin at Woolwich, Lark, Swallow and Falcon at Erith, and on the Medway at Gillingham Pier is Fulmar, Swift is in Chatham dock.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 19, 2008, 10:09:49 pm
It seems they have been failed by a Government which has not fully supported a  greater use of the environmentally friendly water option for transportation of freight. It is a sad day when such a long established company stops trading and it can only be hoped that the fleet will remain trading around the coast if sold.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on December 19, 2008, 10:47:33 pm
Hi FWE

Not surprising really, this useless government is only interested in saving the banks that have screwed up everything and everybody.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Chris Allport on December 20, 2008, 10:08:47 am
Phil,

The bulk market is dead!  Sign of the times I guess.  Understand that Zodiac have already laid up 8 capesize bulkers - 5 at Johore and three in Southampton including the WATERFORD on 101 berth. Chris Allport


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 20, 2008, 09:34:41 pm
REDWING IMO 8805482 at West Leigh Anchorage 20/12.
CURLEW IMO 8519954 due Tilbury Dock 21/12
CHRISTINE Y IMO 8502145 due Hartlepool 21/12 reported loading for Dundee

Any Ideas on TEAL IMO 8813051 or PIPIT IMO 8324593 for complete picture ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 20, 2008, 10:31:03 pm
Pipit in Littlehampton this afternoon with cargo of stone from Dean Quarry Porthoustock.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 21, 2008, 10:58:23 am
TEAL IMO 8813051 sailed Macduff and off Bridlington 21/12 1200 course south


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: laurie on December 21, 2008, 11:19:48 am
According to PLA website  Redwing arrived Erith this morning and Curlew arrived Tilbury dock

Locations now are
Erith Pontoon; Martin, Redwing and Swallow
Erith Tier; Falcon, Swift
Woolwich; Ardent, Lark

Laurie


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 21, 2008, 12:12:19 pm
Current summary at 21/12 of laid-up ships on East and South Coast of UK  (others laid-by in Lyme Bay and Falmouth Bay etc) appears to be  

River Tyne
Nil
River Tees
Container ship CALA POSITANO IMO 9123037
Container ship CALA PORTOFINO IMO 9139806  
River Humber
Bulk carrier VOYAGER II IMO 8313972  
Bulk carrier DEFIANT II IMO 7531357
River Blackwater
Nil
River Thames and Medway
Vehicle ferry IPSWICH WAY IMO 7816496  
Vehicle ferry OSTEND WAY IMO 7816501
Vehicle ferry EGLANTINE IMO 8302806  
HSC ferry SPEEDONE IMO 9161560  
HSC ferry EMERAUDE FRANCE IMO 8903703  
Bulk carrier CURLEW IMO 8519954
Bulk carrier LARK IMO 8324581
Bulk carrier ARDENT IMO 8213445  
Bulk carrier SWALLOW IMO 8420921  
Bulk carrier FALCON IMO 9006423  
Bulk carrier MARTIN IMO 8510295  
Bulk carrier SWIFT IMO 8804787  
Bulk carrier FULMAR IMO 8804775  
Bulk carrier REDWING IMO 8805482
River Solent
LNG carrier MARGARET HILL IMO 7368841
Bulk carrier MORNING CLOUD IMO 8025795
Bulk carrier WATERFORD IMO 8810114
Bulk carrier BROADGATE  IMO 8213847  
Portland Harbour
Car carrier HOEGH ASIA IMO 9191876
River Fal
Car carrier AUTOCARRIER IMO 8100519

Any more apart from some smaller craft ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Nathan on December 21, 2008, 03:43:14 pm
Im not sure if this one is laid up or not.

The 'Investigator' (8020795) is currently docked in Hartlepool and is not due to depart until the 31/01/2009. Here operation is stated as 'Lay-by' which is what the two Tees layups also have down. You can see whats berthed on the Tees by clicking, here. (http://www.thpal.co.uk/shippingreports/SR-02-ShipsInPort.asp)

Does anyone know if this vessel is laid up?

Kind Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 21, 2008, 04:09:51 pm
It is possible it may soon be swinging back the other way.
It was recently reported that the Chinese have resumed iron ore imports and last week both Rio Tinto and BHP chartered 11 Capesize bulkers each.
Meanwhile there has been a couple more charters for Brazilian iron ore for China.
Who knows, it may soon buck up again.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 21, 2008, 06:23:39 pm
I am wondering if the vehicle carrier Sierra Nevada Highway is joining the list.
At the moment, she is at anchor in the Nab anchorage, showing the Nab as destination and she is not on the Southampton VTS movements schedules.
I don't think I have ever seen a vehicle carrier at the anchorages in this area before; they usually run a pretty tight "in and out as quick as you like" schedule here.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 21, 2008, 09:14:29 pm
Car carrier HOEGH ASIA IMO 9191876 was Portland UK 20/12 on AIS  (USA?)

Car carrier AUTOLINE IMO 8200565 booked River Fal 23/12


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 21, 2008, 09:21:07 pm
Old reefer  PIETARI GLORY  heading for the River Fal. Sounds like a layup to me, but most of the others arriving recently at Falmouth have subsequently 'escaped'.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on December 21, 2008, 11:46:37 pm
Hi FWE

I do not think Hoegh Asia is laid up, she left Southampton at 16:12 on 20th bound for Santander, having arrived at Soton, from Le Havre at 07:12 the same morning.   Guess she was calling for repairs/bunkers

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 21, 2008, 11:54:49 pm
Thanks for reply and I agreee and appears since sailed. Does anyone know if Portland is still available for lay-up (?) and if so why it isnt currently being used eg physical restrictions.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Pekka Laakso on December 22, 2008, 02:43:28 am
Quote
Current summary at 21/12 of laid-up ships on East and South Coast of UK (others laid-by in Lyme Bay and Falmouth Bay etc) appears to be  River Tyne Nil River Tees

Any more apart from some smaller craft ?
The Finnish icebreaker/multipurpose offshore vessel BOTNICA is currently laid up at Leith. The somewhat larger ones FENNICA & NORDICA are laid up at Arendal, Norway (see photos by ghazten), but think they are heading for drydock in January and possible for icebreaking duties afterwards if it gets enough cold in Finland.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: laurie on December 22, 2008, 03:48:20 pm
Coastal Bulk Shipping
Pla Website now shows Teal anchored ar West Leigh. Also Swallow moved this afternoon from Erith Pontoon to anchorage in Gallions Reach

Laurie


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 22, 2008, 04:36:48 pm
PIPIT IMO 8324593 due Denton swing tonight 22/12 so is last bird home.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: simonwp on December 22, 2008, 07:31:06 pm
Singapore could be the place to visit soon. They are preparing to receive up to 40 containerships for lay-up over the next few months as the majors start returning chartered tonnage to owners, with no prospect of immediate work for these vessels. Majors, such as Maersk, are intending to operate with their own vessels on much reduced schedules, until things get better. Even so, Maersk have indicated that they may also lay-up some of their owned vessels, perhaps for a month at a time on a rolling basis, to take capacity out of the market, but have it available if there is any increase in volumes or rates.

MSC are in a slightly better position than some, as they operate some older tonnage, and these vessels could be scrapped rather than laid up, realising cash instead of costing money.

China is still predicted to take 40m more tonnes of iron ore in 2009 than 2008 so there's a bit of hope for the bulker market.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 22, 2008, 07:56:31 pm
Does METHANIA count as laid up? Methania is the largest and apparently oldest ship on the Belgian register, and for some reason is on Greenpeace's list of ships to watch, probably because they think she is in danger of imminent scrapping. She spent most of the summer moored off Falmouth, before being recalled to Zebrugge, and reloaded with LNG. This was, according to the Times newspaper, intended to be part of a bizarre trade, where gas imported from the Gulf to Europe, is subsequently re-exported to places as far afield as India. It seems that this trade has gone sour, and poor Methania is once again moored off Falmouth for several weeks, only this time fully loaded.
David
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships - Antic
Post by: Darren on December 23, 2008, 10:37:57 am
Although once in the Lapthorn fleet as the Hoo Plover the Antic is currently laid up at Hull Docks following her exit from Dry Dopcking back in the autumn.

She looks clean and tidy but has not traded since September 2009.

On the topic of Coastalbulk Shipping the Christine Y is currently on the Tees but due to sail to Leith.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Darren on December 23, 2008, 10:43:43 am
ADMIRALTY COURT SALES

1.  MV 'VOYAGER II'
Bulkcarrier
About 33763 dwt on 10.67m draft
Built 1986, Stocz. Szczecin, Poland
Flag Panama
BV Class (believe dd due 9/09 ss due 9/11)
LOA: 195.09m, Beam: 25.32m
5 ho ha Macgregors
Cranes 3/25 1/20
Sulzer 6RLB66 Main engine
Lightweight 8,888

2.  MV 'DEFIANT II'
Bulkcarrier - self discharger
About10800 dwt on 8.4m draft
Built1978 Kalmar Varvet, Sweden. Converted 1996
Lloyds Class - Ice Class 1A - (believe ss due 11/11 dd due 5/09)
2 ho ha  14,880 CBM
B&W 6K45GF
Crane 1/30 / self unloading system Bulklift type T-1500, 1,500 m3/h
Lightweight 4,177

Both vessels are lying at Hull, England, and are to be sold by sealed
tender, 'as is where is' at the time of sale, on the Admiralty Marshal's
Conditions of Sale. Individual offers for either or each ship must be
submitted in sealed envelopes marked 'Voyager II' or 'Defiant II'
respectively, to be received by CW Kellock & Co Ltd latest noon Monday
19th January 2009.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 23, 2008, 05:20:57 pm
Methania is not the only gas carrier 'resting' of the Cornish Coast.
The EXCELSIOR (2005/93719. EXCELSIOR NV also of Belgium) is anchored off Porthleven, west of the Lizard, she has also been off the coast previously in the year. (She appears on the Lands End AIS)
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 23, 2008, 05:28:10 pm
I note that METHANIA is laden ie being used for storage and ask if it is clear if EXCELSIOR is also laden ?. I note that oil majors have recently fixed VLCCs for storage to be anchored in the North Sea and wondered if the same for LNG ?

It seems if this trend continues we will soon have more crude oil and natural gas floating on top of the North Sea in storage on ships than we have underneath it !


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 23, 2008, 05:34:53 pm
The Falmouth ship movements site (http://www.falmouthport.co.uk/commercial/html/movement.php) shows that the Pietri Glory moved up the Fal to lay up yesterday, with the Autoline going up today, I will check tomorrow, and advise. The Palma (1983/27589; Ph) has been anchored far out in Falmouth Bay for some weeks now, she was down as going up the Fal when she first arrived, but must be hoping for work! Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 23, 2008, 05:40:41 pm
Not sure about EXCELSIOR, I think she is laden. Earlier in the week the BP LNG British Trader (2002/93498) was in the Bay for bunkers, she arrived from the Isle of Grain, and sailed for Port of Spain, Trinidad, so at least she seems to be trading, and has a Red Ensign!
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: DanSTN on December 23, 2008, 05:59:00 pm
CALA PONENTE IMO: 9232656 due Blyth on the 27th December. I may be totally wrong here but as far as i'm aware this size container vessel does not normally call at Blyth, so I would assume she is in for Lay-up.

Can anyone more familiar with Blyth confirm this?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: laurie on December 23, 2008, 06:28:49 pm
Coastal Bulk Shipping

Pipit and Teal have now arrived at Denton and Curlew moved from Tibury to Erith.
Positions according to PLA website at 18.00 today

E Woolwich Tier: Ardent, Lark
Erith Tier: Swift, Falcon
Erith Pontoon: Curlew, Martin, Redwing
Denton Moorings: Pipit, Teal

Laurie


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Darren on December 23, 2008, 06:34:17 pm
I can confirm that the Cala Portofino, Positano and Ponente were all sold by PLANTATION KEY PTE LTD in September 2008 so if she follows the same pattern as the other 2 ships then its highly likely she will go into lay up.

Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on December 23, 2008, 08:38:54 pm
Wani Point and Wani Logger laid up in Porsgrunn Norway:
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=798920

Thats life


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Cornelia Klier on December 23, 2008, 09:47:29 pm
These ones here in Port of Emden, to some of you the ships might be familiar.

LILLY MITCHELL Imo 9067582 Terminal 2
CONGER Imo 9122227 Terminal 2
VALENCIA Imo 9126259
BF MARYAM Imo 9061265
BORUSSIA DORTMUND Imo 9162681
SUEDEROOG Imo 9256327


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 24, 2008, 09:39:56 am
So the "Christmas List" of laid-up ships on East and South Coast of UK (others laid-by in Lyme Bay and Falmouth Bay etc) appears to be


Leith: BOTNICA IMO 9165877
Blyth: Booked 27/12/08 CALA PONENTE IMO 9232656
Tyne: Nil
Wear: Nil
Hartlepool: INVESTIGATOR IMO 8020795
Tees :CALA POSITANO IMO 9123037 / CALA PORTOFINO IMO 9139806
Humber VOYAGER II IMO 8313972 / DEFIANT II IMO 7531357 / ANTIC IMO 8213457
Blackwater: Nil
Thames IPSWICH WAY IMO 7816496 / OSTEND WAY IMO 7816501 / EGLANTINE IMO 8302806 / SPEEDONE IMO 9161560 / EMERAUDE FRANCE IMO 8903703 / LARK IMO 8324581 / ARDENT IMO 8213445 / SWALLOW IMO 8420921 / CURLEW IMO 8519954 / FALCON IMO 9006423 / MARTIN IMO 8510295 / REDWING IMO 8805482 / SWIFT IMO 8804787 / PIPIT  IMO 8324593 / TEAL IMO 8519954
Medway : FULMAR IMO 8804775
Newhaven: HD1 IMO 9160114
Solent:MARGARET HILL IMO 7368841 / MORNING CLOUD IMO 8025795 / WATERFORD IMO 8810114 / BROADGATE  IMO 8213847
Fal: AUTOCARRIER IMO 8100519 / PIETARI GLORY IMO 7809314 / AUTOLINE IMO 8200565

Any more ?  Eg West Coast ? Is UK now becoming one big parking lot ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 24, 2008, 12:07:55 pm
Ships in the Fal. The 'Autocarrier' is off Tolverne alongside the 'Windsor Castle' (ex Northern Lightship tender) Best place to photograph the two is on the beach/pontoon at Tolverne) The 'Autoline and the 'Pietri Glory' are moored stern to stern just above the King Harry Ferry; best place for photographs is from the Ferry while crossing the river. Hope to publish photos in the New Year. Will advise any further arrivals.
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Joseph Mould on December 24, 2008, 02:21:16 pm
Received news this morning that Coastal Bulk Shipping have ceased trading due to the adverse effects of the economic downturn and poor bulk market. As mentioned in other posts most if not all of the fleet are now layed up in the Thames region. These vessels used to be regular traders on the Humber and Trent but I hadn't seen sight of any of them for some time and now the reason is all too apparent. Unfortunately I don't think they will be the only short sea operators to be put out of business by the current downturn.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 24, 2008, 04:51:58 pm
Reefers PIETARI CLIFF AND PIETARI BRIGHT arrived off Falmouth this afternoon, although there is no mention of them on the current Falmouth Harbour Commissioners Shipping Movements. As PIETARI GLORY is already laid up above King Harry ferry, it doesn't take the Brain of Britain to conclude where they are going!
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 25, 2008, 11:53:37 am
Addition to the Sierra Nevada Highway, anchored at the Nab Anchorage since 21 December, I see the Western Highway has now joined her at the same anchorage.
I also note Alexander Kuprin is anchored off the South West coast of the Isle of Wight "awaiting orders"


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 25, 2008, 01:16:15 pm
Oh dear!
It is beginning to take on the look of a family reunion off our coast here;
This morning (and since posting the last comment), Triton Highway is now "parked" about 8 miles south of Selsey Bill. It is showing Southampton as destination but it doesn't appear on the VTS schedule site.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 25, 2008, 02:42:26 pm
Does anyone know how long these car carriers can stay in the Nab area  ? I belive there is argiment that if a ship remains beyond a certain period it ceases to be "anchoring in the course of navigation" and then become moored and requires additional permission and it becomes chargeable as mooring.

It is interesting the bulk carriers RUTLAND, DAPHNE, BW ARCTIC, BERGE ATLANTIC and NORD STEEL joined on 23/12 by the oil tanker OLIVIA are not currently showing on AIS in Lyme Bay. I wonder if they are still there and if the AIS transmitters are allowed to be swithced off if idle ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on December 25, 2008, 10:37:17 pm
Hi FWE

Not sure about definitions of timings of anchorages, but we have had tankers at both Nab and St. Helens Anchorages for upwards of a week (not very often for that long, but often 4 days or so)

As for Kelvin's comment about Soton VTS, they havn't updated the 'ships sailed' since 22nd, so don't believe that if it is not on the list it ain't coming in.  They also gave Minerva Ellie as coming in from Salerno whilst in fact she came from Hound Point - that's the third error in a week regarding tankers ports of origin.   Difficult to understand how they can give Salerno when she clearly came in from 'up North'

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 26, 2008, 01:46:10 am
Allan,
Maybe they have not been updating the "ships sailed" but they are maintaining the arrivals & departures schedules.
In fact, they are now showing the Astro Lyra as 21:50 26th.
No movement for the Triton Highway though; although the Hercules Highway is due in and out on Saturday


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 26, 2008, 07:26:33 am
Thanks for update it would be interesting to know how long they can remain at anchor outside port-limits eg in Lyme Bay or Falmouth Bay without the Crown Estate or Duchy of Cornwall etc coming along and wanting to charge the owners for mooring ?. It seems, as with cars,  that the free parking lots will fill up first. Perhaps they just have to go out and come back in again to avoid it.

In case we are not seeing the full picture, ie the situatuation may be worse than it is, it would be interesting to know if ships can lawfully switch off their AIS system when anchored as opposed to moored or laid up if anyone knows ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 26, 2008, 07:56:59 am
The ships in Lyme Bay that you mentioned in an earlier post are still there and still transmitting AIS;
All in a fairly small area are:
BW Arctic; Rutland; Daphne; Berge Atlantic & Nord Steel
Oliva is anchored further out.
The tanker Longchamp is also anchored off Exmouth.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 26, 2008, 08:12:10 am
2 sister ships are currently "parked" off Falmouth; Adventure II and Challenger II have been there a few days now.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on December 26, 2008, 08:26:35 am
I think the situation whereby ships can "park" anywhere around the coast they like is somewhat of a grey area. For instance the area known as MARGATE ROADS is, I've been told  open for all and only limited by size of vessel, you can "park" there even without telling anybody you are there. The last time I looked yesterday there were 16 there and not 1 appeared on the POLA list. The coastguard would not necessarily know they are there either.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 26, 2008, 10:43:21 am
ADVENTURE II and CHALLENGER II sound like two of the Britannia Bulk fleet, the parent company of which has been put into administration (see various previous posts). Although administrators sometimes try to continue trading where they can see value in it, I don't think this applies to Britannia. Expect to see the whole fleet of over 20 vessels names ending in 'II' being laid up and sold.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 26, 2008, 01:01:18 pm
I am not sure if they are a "proper" part of the Britannia Bulk fleet as they both have different owners but there is a connection:
Both of these ships are managed by Svendborg Ship Management Denmark.
Britannia has 2 registered offices, one of which is at the same address as Svendborg Management


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on December 26, 2008, 02:25:35 pm
Maybe a lot of these ships are anchored awaiting berths when the holidays are over, i.e the Berge Atlantic & Nord Steel


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Darren on December 26, 2008, 09:35:48 pm
Add to the list

PORT OF RIGA
STK Class called NEVA
Volkhov (Ex Ladoga 12)
Ugra (Ex Ladoga 15)
Kuban (Ex Ladoga 18)
Laba (Ex Ladoga 19)

Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 27, 2008, 01:42:06 pm
PIETARI BRIGHT was shown due to lay-up on Falmouth web-site but is no longer shown as booked.I am unsure if teh booking was cancelled or if she has now laid up ?.

Note item in Baltic Business News On-line on 22/12/08 re PIETARI BRIGHT, PIETARI CLIFF and PIETARI BRUIN and Seanews On-line on 24/12/08 re AURIKA, BALTIC CLOUD, BALTIC SNOW, PIETARI BRUIN, PIETARI BRIGHT, PIETARI GREAT, and PIETARI GLORY


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 27, 2008, 05:06:45 pm
She's hiding just round the corner.
At the moment lying about 1 mile off Porth Mellin.
Others in that area include Green Tromso, showing Falmouth 31/12 at 10:00
Excelsior, destination Mounts Bay anchorage; Sanko, destination Houston, ETA 30/12/08 06:00 (doesn't look like they are serious about that!).
And the tug Janus, also showing Falmouth as destination 17/12


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 27, 2008, 06:09:39 pm
Perhaps PIETARI BRIGHT finds it more comfortable round the corner. The Manacles rocks off the Helford are an unpleasant place to drag your anchor onto in a brisk Easterly wind.
The Falmouth movements yesterday showed her due upriver on Monday morning. Since then all Monday information has been removed, so she is probably still due then.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andreas Schlatterer on December 28, 2008, 12:13:42 pm
Hello
if someone is interested in

According to Cargonews Asia folowing Containervessels are laid up or going i be laid up
Vessel Capacity (TEUs) Lay-up date Lay-up end
Maersk Karachi 6,673 Nov June
Maersk Sentosa 7,250 Nov June
Maersk Serangoon 7,250 Nov June
Maersk Senang 7,250 Nov June
Maersk Seletar 7,250 Dec June
Maersk Sembawang 7,250 Dec June
Maersk Sebarok 7,250 Dec June
Maersk Kiel 6,673 Dec June
Total Maersk Line withdrawal 58,846 TEUs
Cosco Ningbo 9,383 Nov N/A *
Cosco Seattle 7,500 Nov N/A
Cosco Germany 8,400 Dec N/A
Cosco Yantian 9,383 Dec N/A
Greenwich Bridge 5,624 Jan Mar
Glen Canyon Bridge 5,624 Jan Mar
Bremen Bridge 5,576 Jan Mar
Granville Bridge 5,624 Jan Mar
Cosco Hellas 9,383 Jan N/A
Cosco China 8,400 Jan N/A
George Washington Bridge 5,624 Feb Apr
Lions Gate Bridge 5,608 Mar May
Akinada Bridge 5,608 Mar May
Tsing Ma Bridge 5,608 Mar May
Golden Gate Bridge 5,608 Apr May
Total "K'' Line and Cosco withdrawal 102,953 TEUs * Not available

Best regards
Capesize


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: polsteam on December 28, 2008, 11:31:39 pm
as of 29 Dec 2008...


on the anchorage of the port of Gdansk, Poland
the "open type" (wide hatch) bulk carrier Hamburg Way (IMO 7931832)
is anchored since 16 Dec 2008
earlier (2008.11.18 - 2008.12.16) the ship was under repairs at Remontowa shiprepair yard in Gdansk
it seems to be at least a short term laid-up until they find employment for the ship...


at Remontowa SA two mono-hull fast ferries SuperSeaCat Three (IMO 9141871) and ...Four (IMO 9141883)
seem to be laid up...
they arrived to Gdansk on 18 and 15 Oct 2008 respecdtively and they were expected to leave before the end of December...
meanwhile, probably the specification of repairs was expanded, but seemingly not enough to keep the ships that long at the yard...
both ships were at some point declared to be staying at the yard until Dec 31, and several days ago both ships were declared to be departing on 31 March 2009...


sometimes choosing a small repair company with limited resources ("shipyard without docks") and relying also on ship's crew or shipowners "flying repair squad", thus making normal repairs extremely long, may also be regarded as some kind of lay-up...
chemical tanker Anitra (IMO 8513364) is moored at one of the Dalmor company quays in the port of Gdynia, undergoing alongside repairs, already since 01.10.2008...


quays of Dalmor have been often used as lay-up berths for several ships over several recent years, including long period lay-ups (eg. 1 or 2 years), including such ships as Antarctica ( http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=733685 ) in these periods:
2006-08-10 - 2006-10-04 - 55 days
2006-04-28 - 2006-07-18 - 81 days
2006-03-24 - 2006-08-04 - 133 days
2006-01-23 - 2006-03-07 - 43 days
2002-04-24 - 2004-03-17 - 693 days


currently (as of end of Dec 2008), the following ships seem to be laid-up at Dalmor's quays:
- Fair One (IMO    8104307) - since 24.11.2008 (quite a long period as for loading or discharging such a small coaster)...
- Alert (IMO 7404176)
2008-10-09 - 2008-11-20 - 42 days
2008-02-06 - 2008-09-21 - 228 days
it seems to be a ship from the same company as Antarctica
- Sentinel (IMO 7106877)
it also seems to be the ship of the owners of Antarctica


I do not know exactly - since when, but I think for a couple of weeks now, the geared bulkcarrier Proikonissos (IMO ) has been anchored off Baltijsk / Kaliningrad, quite long distance from shore, with "Destination: Orders" declared on AIS (I understand it waits for orders of employment)
(currently at a position of 54° 42' 48" N - 019° 30' 07" E)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 28, 2008, 11:32:49 pm
Current situation in River Fal, Pietari Glory (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=802207&cid=20), Autoline (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=802206), Autocarrier and Windsor Castle currently moored in the river, with Pietari Bright expected to lay up on Monday morning, Pietari Cliff on Tuesday morning. Also Palma is still expected to lay-up. Pietari Bright spent Saturday sheltering in Mount's Bay off Mullion.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on December 29, 2008, 12:09:28 am
Andreas,

Thank you for th info on the containerships currently laid up, there are alot of new vessels in that list with more to come no doubt.

rgds
Andrew


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 29, 2008, 11:03:32 am
River Fal update - Pietari Bright laid up this morning alongside fleetmate Pietari Glory.
Pietari Cliff joining them tomorrow morning.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 29, 2008, 11:58:50 am
Thanks for update and I wondered how many ships could be taken in lay up moooings there now if two (or three ?) abrest after the mussel farm has taken some of the space. Also do you think the Carrick Roads could be used ?

The Baltic Business News On-line reported PIETARI BRUIN was recently detained in Estonia with PIETARI CLIFF and PIETARI BRIGHT. I wondered if she had also come across with the other two when they were released  ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: portagent on December 29, 2008, 02:03:59 pm
presently laid up in Bremen:

Cont.-Feeder "K-Storm" IMO 9389435 - 974 TEU - since end.Nov.08
Cont.-Feeder "Ice Crystal" IMO 9440590 - 698 TEU - since 27.Dec.08
Cont.-Feeder "Ice Star" IMO 9428229 - 698 TEU - since 29.Dec.08


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 29, 2008, 04:29:53 pm
Carrick Roads can be used, and has been in the past.

Still plenty of berths in the River Fal - 3 or 4 (or even 5 abreast) is achievable on the present moorings (I think a total of 15 berths - though could be wrong!)!
Believe Pietari Bruin might come - will keep posted!

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 29, 2008, 05:51:52 pm
I understand that the Blackwater is not being used due to concerns of introducing non-native organisms from ballast water or hull growth, and the Stour due to RAMSAR status etc but do you have those problems at Falmouth ?

Just asking as it seems the Fal is an equally environmentally sensitvie area and of outstanding natural beauty. I am all for it but it is difficullt to judge if thirty of so ships anchored in our estuaries as occcured in the early 60s would be accepted now.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 29, 2008, 07:51:50 pm
Can the Dart still be used?  I can well remember as a lad in the 1950's seeing many laid up there.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: DanSTN on December 30, 2008, 12:20:35 am
Bulk carrier ERIDGE is due at 101 berth Southampton on New Years Day


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on December 30, 2008, 09:57:14 am
That's interesting about the Blackwater as I was just wondering which authority is responsible for that stretch of water. Seems like it's the Oystermen  :-(  Surely it's a tidal estuary anyway, so would be subject to the same risk of contamination as any other coastal area.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 30, 2008, 11:08:15 am
Fal River and Falmouth Bay. Pietari Cliff now moored alongside Pietari Bright, with Pietari Glory on the outside (Philleigh side) There is a good photographic spot opposite the ships on the road down to Tolverne. In Falmouth Bay the Palma is still there, as is the Autosun (2000/21094) She is straight out of drydock and is painted up in what must be new hull colours for UECC, dark Blue. Also in the bay is the Delmar; (2006/31261) And we still have the LNG carriers, Methania, with the Arctic Discoverer (2006/118571) off the Lizard, and the Excelsior (2005/93719) off Porthleven,. Also off Porthleven and showing on AIS are; Sanko Venture, (2002/39272) with the bulker Osios David 2 (1982/14330) The tug Janus is also there, and I understand a rig of some sort (anyone know about this?)
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 30, 2008, 11:16:14 am
I agree especially as there are now strict enviornmental controls on shipping eg no dumping of garbage etc and as TBT ant-fouling has been discontinued.
I believe that the Blackwater can be used for anchoring  ie lay-by but there seems no clear distinction as to when anchoring becomes lay-up and mooring which can be regulated eg by the Crown Estate or their lessees

There is some interesting history on http://www.merseamuseum.org.uk/mmshipping.php
 
It will also be intesting to see how the commercial pressure to find places to lay-up and the apparent environmental concerns about it balance out in the end.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 30, 2008, 03:24:39 pm
Falmouth area. One further vessel that has been anchored off Gerrans Bay for over two weeks is the Maple Valley-bulker. (2005/39768)
ADVENTURE II and CHALLENGER II  are also still anchored south East of St. Anthonys.
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Chandler on December 30, 2008, 04:21:14 pm
CSO Apache has been laid up at Leith for the last month, expected to be here until March '09.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on December 30, 2008, 04:56:15 pm
Julian,

Maple Valley is anchored, waiting to be handed over to new owners I Believe.

In Mount's Bay the Janus has no tow with her, she bunkered in Falmouth before moving around last week.

Confirmed, Pietari Cliff is now up in King Harry reach, berthed inside Pietari Bright.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 30, 2008, 07:51:20 pm
Thanks Krispen,
I see the Auto bay is due tomorrow on the Northern Arm, as she is only 11 years old suspect she may be in for a 'service'
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on December 30, 2008, 09:40:28 pm
Quote

Chandler wrote:
CSO Apache has been laid up at Leith for the last month, expected to be here until March '09.

This could be only for the winter as she is a pipelayer, otherwise she would have to head south to calmer waters.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on December 31, 2008, 07:43:00 am
I see VTS is still showing Eridge as due on 101 on New Years Day.
Someone ought to tell the captain though as his AIS is showing Brixham at 08:00 New Years Day!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on December 31, 2008, 11:26:38 am
Falmouth layups.
Yesterday PIETARI BRIGHT was showing on Shipping Movements list as due to leave the Fal and going back to sea . But PIETARI CLOUD is listed as due in on Friday. I find it all very confusing, does anyone know what they are doing any more!
Some excellent recent photos of Southampton and Fal layups can be seen on the Riversea International site, just Google it and scroll to the bottom.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on December 31, 2008, 11:36:35 am
Fal and Falmouth.
Local paper shipping notes say the Adventure 2 and Challenger 2 are also due up the Fal.
Pietrari Cloud due 2 January. Pietari Bright not on Falmouth movement list now.  She is moored between the Glory and Cliff!
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Adawo on December 31, 2008, 12:05:15 pm
Two cement carriers CEMLUNA and CEMSOL are now laid up in Szczecin. Probably for longer period.

Adam


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 31, 2008, 09:36:49 pm
ABP Hull showing bulk carrier PIONEER SKY assumed IMO 8026177 since 7/12/08. Any ideas ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Darren on January 01, 2009, 12:46:57 am
Hi, I can assure you that Pioneer Sky is steaming past Southampton in the channel towards the bnd Suez with an eta of the 10th.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 01, 2009, 04:36:14 pm
Pietari Cloud is coming in for bunkers, before heading to St Petersburg to deliver her cargo - She may be back after discharge.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: simonwp on January 01, 2009, 08:27:30 pm
One or two of the container majors are laying vessels up for a single rotation rather than an extended period. That way the vessels can be classed as "laying-over" rather than laid up, and different mooring fees atc apply, and they don't have to go to the expense of lay-up procedures such as de-humidifying the acccomodation and engine room.

Some car carriers are been used as floating garages to hold stock for which there are no sales, which is why they appear to be meandering around the coast at the moment.

For those owners who are trying to continue trading, especially bulk carrier operators, there is much more anchored, awaiting orders, these vessels are not laid-up although they don't seem to move very much.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Patrick Hill on January 01, 2009, 10:07:01 pm
Hull now has a scrap export berth - vessels often take a while to load.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 03, 2009, 12:09:03 pm
Latest news at Falmouth is Adventure II is expected to lay-up in the River Fal, Monday morning.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Klaas-Jan Brouwer on January 03, 2009, 06:27:16 pm
Hi all,

First of all, what is the definition of vessels which are laid up? A few days? A few weeks? A few months (defiantly yes). But I think when (some) operators won’t use vessels for a few days, it’s a ‘lay up’ too ( a short one). For example: Between Christmas and New Years Day JR Shipping had no crew on one vessel (I guess the OOCL St. Petersburg in Hamburg which was moored for several days).
Class has two definitions, a ‘cold lay-up’ and a ‘warm lay-up’: second is a lay-up up to 6, 7 or 8 weeks, the second one is a lay-up for a longer period of time.

I used AISLive to make the list below. AIS shows not always correct data (ETA, status etc) of vessels, but it gives a quite good impression. For some of the vessels below it’s clear they are laid up, for the other vessels it’s at least worth to mention it over here and to keep an eye on them…

The vessels are arranged by ETA for the port they’re moored, unless otherwise mentioned. Furthermore the vessels are not at a yard (maybe close to) and moored at strange/unusual places…

Last but not least: maybe some vessels are already discussed in this topic. If yes, please forgive me.

Rotterdam (‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard(s) located):
Virginiaborg (9234290):    ETA 07/12/2008, waiting for orders
Götaland (9287704):       ETA 16/12/2008, still moored without any activities
Rhein Carrier (8913045):    ETA 16/12/2008, no activities
Marina (8509818):       ETA 21/12/2008, no activities
Hatsu Courage (9293789):    ETA 21/12/2008, moored at EuroMax Terminal without any activities

Amsterdam (‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard(s) located:
X Press Elbrus (9318773):    ETA 21/12/2008, moored at an unusual place far away from Cerres Terminal

Harlingen (not a ‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard located):
Aasheim (9247106):       ETA 12/11/2008, no activities
Coral Sea (9218234):       ETA N/A, Already for a long time in Harlingen, no activities

Eemshaven (not a ‘container handling port’, no repair/shipyard(s) located):
Annabella (9354363):       ETA 12/12/2008, already mentioned in forum, no activities
Schouwenbank (9163647):    ETA 22/12/2008, still moored at Wagenborg Stevording
DC Merwestone (7365851):    ETA 24/12/2008, no activities and moored next to Annabella
Sirrah (9255402):       ETA 05/01/2009 for Bremerhaven, but moored for already a few days in Eemshaven

Already sailing again:
Rijnborg (9355812):       ETA 05/01/2009 for Kotka, but moored for several days in Eemshaven

Delfzijl (not a ‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard located):
Kristin Schepers (9404089):    ETA 24/11/2008, no activities

Emden (not a ‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard located):
Conger (9122227):       ETA 03/12/2008, no activities
Lilly Mitchell (9067582):    ETA 06/12/2008, no activities
Borussia Dortmund (9162681):    ETA 23/12/2008, no activities
Paritas H (9388390):       ETA N/A, no activities

Hamburg (‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard(s) located):
Ara Atlantis (9354375):   ETA 03/10/2008, no activities, moored close to Robert (9354349)
Buxtehude (9354399):      ETA 14/10/2008, no activities, moored close to Robert (9354349)
Robert (9354349):       ETA 15/12/2008, no activities, moored at an unusual place
Aenne Rickmers (9152753):   ETA 22/12/2008, no activities, moored close to Robert (9354349)
Elisabeth (9083897):      ETA 17/10/2008, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle
Hansa Marburg (9334818):   ETA 10/11/2008, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle
Monsun (9388417):      ETA 23/11/2008, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle
Vega Dolomit (9367853):   ETA 06/12/2008, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle
Vega Zirkon (9385439):   ETA 07/12/2008, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle
Hanse Spirit (9302255):   ETA 08/12/2008, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle
Gerd (9255749):      ETA 03/01/2009, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle (probably a new charter with this new ETA)
Charlotta (9432232):      ETA N/A, no activities, moored at Norderelbpfähle (Sietas 178 newbuilding!!!)

Bremerhaven (‘container handling port’, repair/shipyard(s) located):
K Storm (9389435):      ETA 11/04/2009, ‘Harbour mode (guess she will be laid up until 11/04)
Elbe Trader (9388534):   ETA 11/04/2009, (guess she will be laid up until 11/04)
Cepheus J (9292943):      ETA 12/11/2008, no activities, moored close to Andromeda J (9355422)
Andromeda J (9355422):   ETA 15/11/2008, no activities, moored at unusual place



Keep up the good work!


Best regards,

Klaas-Jan Brouwer (Shiplover)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mike on January 03, 2009, 08:38:13 pm
Hi Phil
Are you guys down on the South Coast now 'full up' and exporting them to the East coast?
We have the 'Carla Ponente' IMO 2008344 arrived here in Blyth on the 28/12/08 from Falmouth and is down to sail approx 31/03/09 !
Best Regards
Mike :-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Pekka Laakso on January 04, 2009, 07:23:36 am
Also a few hits found by AIS sites:

The feeder LAURA ANN, which was one of the first being laid-up at Hamburg in the autumn, sailed few weeks between Southampton-Ireland, is now again in lay-up: this time in Flekkefjord, Norway. The position is quite weird, perhaps Norwegians are interested in buying that one too. (Few 168s are bought by Norwegian interests last year.)

EDIT: One of the Norwegian owned 168s, the ANDREA (ex ANDREA EHLER) is right now arriving at Flekkefjord too.

General cargo EDGAR LEHMANN is awaiting orders in Öresund, south of Helsingör since December 16th.

Bulker YORDANKA NIKOLOVA has been anchored outside Aarhus, Denmark already since October 27th.

At Turku, Finland there are the ro-ro sisters GLOBAL CARRIER and GLOBAL FREIGHTER awaiting new charters after quitting Finnlines charter.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Stuart Andrews on January 04, 2009, 05:32:35 pm
Good Evening..
Ostend Way which has been laid up in Tilbury Dock since 24/11/08 is levelling down in the lock departing for Rotterdam at 1700.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 04, 2009, 06:00:59 pm
Thanks for update re OSTEND WAY. I see that ARKLOW RACER has been there since 23/12 and wondered if the ship is in lay-by or load or discharging ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Stuart Andrews on January 04, 2009, 07:09:19 pm
Hello there..No news on the Arklow Racer although there are a number of vessels in the Mouse Anchorage and Margate Roads awaiting orders so I wouldn't be surprised if the same applied with the Arklow Racer.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on January 04, 2009, 08:12:49 pm
More Fal news.
Both Adventure 2, (tomorrow morning) and Challenger 2 (Tuesday morning) are due up the Fal.
Out in the Bay, and off limits we still Have Clipper Stamford (98/14118) Grand Anemi (88/41688) also still have Methania, Palma, Autosun (Autobay alongside in the docks) Maple Valley off Gerrans.
Off Portleven are still Fotini Lady (04/42058) Tanker. Verila, Bulgarian bulker (96/14431) and the Sanko Venture, and Osios David 2.
Lyme Bay also has 5 large bulkers (Eridge, BW Arctic, Mineral King, Nord Steel, Berge Atlantic, and in towards Torquay is the Union Pluto.
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on January 05, 2009, 01:21:12 pm
Fal today.
Adventure 2 is now moored stern to the Autocarrier at Tolverne, she was turned in Carrick Roads, and towed stern first up the river with all three Falmouth Tugs.
I would guess that this will be the same for the Challenger 2 tomorrow, one hour later.
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 05, 2009, 07:17:39 pm
Yes, The Adventure II is now in the River Fal, moored off Tolverne. Bit of a correction though, she was turned by the three Falmouth tugs in the deep water off Turnaware Bar, off Trelissick House - this is usual for any ship laying up facing down river. - She does look pretty good in the River Fal - Challenger II will look equally as nice I suspect. I hear there are two more ships next week.
Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 06, 2009, 11:25:17 am
Challenger II has now arrived in the River Fal, and berthed alongside fleetmate Adventure II.
In River Fal now, Windsor Castle, Autocarrier, Adventure II, Challenger II (all off Tolverne), Pietari Glory/Cliff/Bright, and Autoline (in King Harry Reach).

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on January 06, 2009, 12:18:16 pm
Thanks Krispen - and thanks to everyone else for keeping us regularly informed regarding this interesting subject.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on January 06, 2009, 04:15:06 pm
One more vessel, although she has been laid up for a LONG time  now is the currently unwanted HSS Stena Discovery, which is still in Belfast Harland and Wolfe Shipyards, been there now for several years.

It sad how many vessel are current;y laid up - this thread was started in December, and in the course of just one month we have managed to get 13 pages of laid up vessels.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 06, 2009, 05:40:19 pm
Are we really sure that all the vessels mentioned in this thread are laid up because of the economic situation ??? I have always understood that HSS STENA DISCOVERY went from the Harwich run because it became very uneconomic to carry on, on that run !!! I shall be interested to hear what others think !!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on January 06, 2009, 05:56:02 pm
I believe you are indeed right, the Stena Discovery is laid up because the fuel costs were to expensive to keep her running.

I just thought this thread was for keeping track on which vessels are laid up.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on January 08, 2009, 12:29:18 am
Southampton VTS is again showing the bulk carrier Eridge due 101 berth 10th Jan time TBA, she is currently still at anchor off Brixham

Also Lloyds list is reporting that the River Fal has had to turn away a request to lay up 7 vessels due to lack of space,

http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/river-fal-forced-to-turn-away-ships-as-space-runs-out/20017605335.htm;jsessionid=A0F3C558A5C0478F83F456DC6CF6E5A5

Rgds
Andrew


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on January 08, 2009, 09:33:42 am
Hi Ferryman, yes - you are quite right to highlight the Stena Discovery. Whatever way you look at it, she is laid up, and that is what this thread is about.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mats on January 08, 2009, 09:24:30 pm
Peter Döhle have now laid up a total of three 168 feeders at Flekkefjord, Norway. The three are "Laura Ann", "Andrea" as well as "Annabella", which arrived today.

More pictures of "Annabelle" on the way into port here:
http://www.avisenagder.no/artikkel.asp?artid=8134
http://www.avisenagder.no/artikkel.asp?Artid=8136

(http://www.avisenagder.no/images/200901/20090108_107349_1S.jpg)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Darren on January 08, 2009, 10:10:24 pm
The Elbia arrived in The Wash on the 24th December and has remained at anchor ever since, still displaying "For Orders"

I had a day out on the 28th December visiting the Thames & Medway, a couple of ships noted on that date are still in port firstly:-
Scot Ranger at Rochester arrived 23/12 and still in port.
Alstern at Rochester arrived frum Hull on the 30th Dec and is still in port.

Notived the Anette IMO7816135 is now moored on the buouys just astern of the Pipit and Teal which are at Dentons on the Thames, assume the Anette will go into lay up ?


Arklow Ranger at Tilbury - arrived 23/12 and is still in port.

Overseas.......

small coaster the Gerhein G arrived in Husum on 29-11 and is still in port.

Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 08, 2009, 10:55:36 pm
The Eridge which was expected in Southampton has now sailed south from her anchorage in Lyme Bay - heading for Las Palmas. It would appear she went this afternoon.

Shame, would have liked to have seen her in Southampton!

Krispen :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 09, 2009, 02:32:33 pm
Hi Krispen,              Yes saw her sail from my lounge window....Seems to have been an upturn in the 'Bulker' market as the 'NORD STEEL' SAILED ON 7TH JAN,FOR BRAZIL,' DAPHNE' ON 3RD JAN,FOR IJMUIDEN, 'RUTLAND' ON 2ND JAN FOR HAMPTON ROADS....                                  Only a couple left at the 'Deep Water' anchorage now.                             Cheers, Brian.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 10, 2009, 10:11:57 am
GERMAN SKY ...just dropped anchor in Deep Water Anchorage off Torbay...awaiting work ?
                                        Brimar.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Pekka Laakso on January 10, 2009, 07:04:40 pm
German feeder ANDROMEDA J, which were laid up at Bremerhaven for months, seems to get a charter. Is right now in the English channel on her way to Dublin.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on January 11, 2009, 07:55:18 am
It seems there has been a change of plan with Eridge.
This morning (11 Jan), she is just south west of Estoril, heading in to Lisbon
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on January 13, 2009, 05:37:58 pm
Hi all,

Pleased to report Sierra Nevada Highway left Nab for Bremerhaven at around 15:40 today.   She had been there since 19 December..........Triton Highway and Western Highway are still there.

Does this mean someone has bought a new car ??

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 13, 2009, 07:24:27 pm
SCOT RANGER has been on her berth at Rochester since at least 23.12.2008 is she considered as "laid up" ????


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mats on January 13, 2009, 07:33:18 pm
No. Two or three weeks at berth is not enough. She may just be waiting for parts, or orders.

To qualify for this thread, at least one of the following two criteria should be satisfied, in my view:
(i) There should either be positive evidence the owners have made adecision to stop trading the vessel and opted for lay-up (e.g. statements from port authorities, confirmation from owners, or similar); or
(ii) the vessel must have been idle for at least a month at a berth or place that is not in used for trade.

Best regards
Mats
Oslo


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 13, 2009, 08:49:03 pm
Many thanks for very informative reply. Kind Regards..


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 13, 2009, 09:58:02 pm
The period of a month is interesting as it has been used to argue as being about the time after which a ship that is "anchored in the course of navigation"  is deemed to be "moored".

This has implications for example if a ship is deemed to be moored then the Crown Estate or its agents here can charge mooring fees or move the ship.

If you have any clarification on this it would be interesting as I believe it has not been tested in the UK Courts ie how far the right of  "anchoring in the course of navigation" can be stretched by shipowners looking to find a free anchorage and relevant in the current downturn.

We are also seeing anchorages occupied by ships such as oil and gas tankers and car carrires that are chartered for storage purposes and while they are not laid up.Is using this right to anchor off the coast and obtaining a free ground rent for a floating warehouse be pushing things too far ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 13, 2009, 10:08:01 pm
It's interesting that you mention "Crown Estate or its agents can charge mooring fees". I wonder if this applies all around th U.K. coast ?? The reason I ask is that I've been told that any vessel, subject only to size, can anchor itself in the area known as MARGATE ROADS without any restriction or without needing to tell any authority that it is there and for an unlimited time !!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 13, 2009, 10:46:50 pm
I agree but I understand that in Margate Roads for example that is due to the right to anchor around the coast in the course of navigation. I think the problem is in determining when anchoring becomes mooring and can then be contolled. I understand they cannot charge for anchoring but can for mooring.

I believe this applies to areas outside port limits controlled by harbour authrities who may set their own rules.  The Duchy of Cornwall fulfils a similar role to the Crown Estate of that coast and they alos have various leaseholders

OIt beocmesw an interesting question as ships anchor for longer periods eitheir through lack of trade or it seems being used as floating storage. I accept that in the latter case it is not laid up but poses a similar issues.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on January 14, 2009, 06:40:39 am
It seems that more than 1 new car may have been purchased.
Western Highway and Triton Highway are now showing ETA 22/01/2009.
ETA where, you might ask.
Well Triton Highway is showing Zeebrugge while Western Highway haven't yet made their minds with no destination.
Nowhere to go but it will arrive there on 22 Jan!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on January 14, 2009, 08:52:58 am
Hi Kelvin

Western Highway due Southampton, 16 Jan

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Brent on January 14, 2009, 09:45:23 am
Hi

I was interested to read definitions qualifying for this column. While Mats puts forward a version, it does not fit the title of this thread "laid up ships" - which I understand are de-activated vessels without crews and having technical modifications such as dehumidifying spaces occurring, and moored at a permanent berth.

The current phenomenon actually involves few truly laid-up vessels, most are in :hot lay-up" meaning still crewed and readiness maintained for prompt return to trade. Some ships are just idle for a round voyage, but to me fit the  criteria of this column as affected by the downturn and withdrawn from trade for a period.

Ships idle for less than a month may well then qualify for this column, as long as resulting from lack of cargo, but not as a result of mechanical issues or awaiting orders as already mentioned.

Cheers

Brent


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on January 14, 2009, 09:52:11 am
In answer to some recent questions and observations, there are essentially two types of layup.

1. Cold lay up. This is the complete shut down and 'mothballing' of the vessel with only very limited personnel about for watch keeping. Re-activation will take several weeks and will have to include surveys in order for the ship to resume trading.

2. Warm lay up. This is a temporary idling of a fully-operational vessel, with full crew and stores aboard, which can be re-activated at short notice should a cargo become available.

There is evidence that many owners are choosing the second option. As the thread starter, I believe that bother cases are worthy of note in the current climate. So please keep posting information, even if a ship is at anchor for only a few weeks.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 14, 2009, 04:46:47 pm
Hi Brent, I thought Mats put forward a plausible explanation of a "laid up ship" but it seems you have a different definition !!! One begins to wonder whether there is a TRUE legal definition of a "laid up ship" or does it mean whatever anyone wants it to mean !!! All I'm trying to find out is the generally accepted definition.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Guest on January 14, 2009, 05:09:51 pm
Hi All

Apologies if this has been posted somewhere else in the thread.

Interesting guide to Laid Up Ships by Germanischer Lloyd Aktiengesellschaft @
http://www.gl-group.com/presse/Recommendations_for_laid_up_ships.pdf

Regards


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 14, 2009, 07:41:28 pm
Hi,  'Berge Atlantic'  sailed from 'WARM LAY UP' AT Torbay Deep Water Anchorage at 1740 today enroute to Ponta do Udu (WHEREVER THAT MAY BE) Been here since 18/12/08......she did move in closer to Torbay about a week ago to store & water and returned to anchor.
                                  Cheers
                                   Brian.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 15, 2009, 10:35:55 am
Hi again,
              Seems like another Bulker  'MOORGATE' for 'Warm Layup' in Torbays Deep Water Anchorage  (The master did ask the agents if it was 'FREE PARKING') At present awaiting Charts in Torbay before anchoring....Vessel not showing on my AIS.
                                  Cheers,
                                   Brian.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 15, 2009, 11:10:31 am
Interesting to hear about the Moorgate - I presume she'll appear on the list for Southampton soon, and join her fleetmates.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: laurie on January 15, 2009, 11:04:46 pm
Looking at the PLA website ,there seems to have been some movement of the Coastal Bulk Shipping vessels in the past couple of days. Pipit and Teal have moved from Denton to Erith Reach.Martin has left Erith pontoon and has joined Swallow at Gallions Reach. Martin and Redwing have also left Erith Pontoon and I believe they are now on the Medway.
Swift and Falcon are still at Erith Tier and Ardent and Lark at Woolwich Tier

Laurie


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 15, 2009, 11:20:08 pm
Curlew and Redwing both went to the Medway on Wednesday (14th), and went on the mud berth at Hoo, joined today(15th) by Fulmar, which moved across from Gillingham.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on January 16, 2009, 06:35:31 am
Allan,
A change of plan perhaps..Sierra Nevada Highway is currently (06:30) passing Dover en route to Southampton, due in later today at 15:30, with an evening departure for Baltimore.
That must be something of a record for a trip to Bremerhaven and back.
Meanwhile, the other 2 are just sitting there, showing no apparent interest in going anywhere.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Adrian Ford on January 16, 2009, 12:49:54 pm
I have just noticed that the PIPIT has passed Cortyon dest. HOO according to Comar?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Adrian Ford on January 16, 2009, 12:51:24 pm
I have just noticed that the PIPIT has passed Cortyon dest. HOO according to Comar?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 16, 2009, 03:03:46 pm
Hello Once Again,
                           Yet another vessel sailed from 'Warm Layup'
'BW ARTIC' Departed Torbay Deep Water Anchorage at approx 1400 today
16th Jan 09..Destination:- Ponta Da Madeira. She has been here since 21/12/08
                                   Cheers,
                                    Brian.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 17, 2009, 09:30:33 am
Hello,
         Correction about the Bulker 'MOORGATE'
The vessel did not stay at the Deep Water Anchorage in Torbay.
She did anchor in Torbay for a short period on 15th Jan 09 for the purpose of boarding Police Officers by Pilot Launch to investigate the death of the Chief Engineer while in the Bay of Biscay..there was no suspicious cicumstances and his body was landed in Brixham.....the vessel then left to unknown destination.
                          Sorry about the orginal misinformation..it did'nt help with the vessels ais transponder not working.
                               Cheers,
                               Brian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 17, 2009, 12:16:47 pm
Are ships allowed to switch off their AIS transponders when they are anchored eg in lay-by or warm-lay-up ?. It seems that they can change some static data fields easily, apart from those of destination and eta. Is there any evidence that ships are switching them off to avoid detection ?  Does this pose any issues of marine safety and security ? There are interesting side issues to this thread. Just who is monitoring this eg is it the Coastguards and what are the penalties ?. I understand a ship will be challenged in the Dover Strait if AIS is off or data is incorrect but it seems in other places it may not. with implications for creditors now trying to arrest ships.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 17, 2009, 12:17:25 pm
According to AIS, Moorgate was still out in the anchorage in Lyme Bay this morning?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 17, 2009, 01:03:07 pm
I understand you can "park" in MARGATE ROADS and you are not obliged to tell anyone. You couldn't do that in days of Hornbeam reports !!!!! Rgds..


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 17, 2009, 07:07:33 pm
HI,
       Would be appreciated if 'Cornishman' could give me the anchored position of the 'Moorgate' .She is still not sending data to my ais receiver and have checked 3 other public ais sites and not showing on theirs either..thanks in anticipation.
                                    Cheers,
                                      Brian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 17, 2009, 07:56:13 pm
AIS LIVE showing the following: MOORGATE  IMO;9009152  Call Sign A8CQ8 in position N.50.28.128  W 3.24.327 detected at 1652.48 today 17.1.09. AIS LIVE Expensive but good. Rgds.;


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 17, 2009, 08:09:56 pm
Henrycourt beat me to it Brimar.

Anyway, looks like she is only sending very short bursts of data - probably why she is not showing up very often.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 17, 2009, 11:54:22 pm
Thanks very much for the position of the 'Moorgate' Henrycourt & Cornishman ...have ventured out from my house and walked 250meters around the corner and there she is!!! so I can see her and from the lat/long you gave she is 5.5 miles from my house...so its a strange mystery why i am receiving data from the other 4 ships anchored within 3 miles of her and over the last 36hours ihave been logged as having an area coverage of 3075 sq kms ....maybe I need to do a little 'tweaking'.
                   Thanks once again.
                         Brian.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 17, 2009, 11:59:16 pm
Brian,

I believe this is not a problem with your equipment - she's had it on/off all day. Be interesting what happens to her in the next few days.

Krispen :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 18, 2009, 10:24:58 am
Thanks again Cornishman....Have been up the ladder this morning to adjust positioning of the antenna...but no different. Moorgate probably Southampton bound soon.
                   I see AUSTRALIAN HIGHWAY 'marking time' in Lyme Bay this morning after plodding down channel against the southwesterly storm at 6 knots last nite..showing Dublin bound & SIERRA NEVADA HIGHWAY at anchor in
'The Box'.
                                  Thanks again for your help.
                                                   Brian.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 18, 2009, 10:49:40 am
Looks like yet another Vehicle Carrier bound for anchorage in 'The Torbay Box'
 'HOEGH CHENNAI' due around1045 today 18/01/09


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 18, 2009, 12:15:08 pm
Yes noticed Sierra Nevada Highway late last night heading for Lyme Bay - not sure if she turned off the Isles of Scilly, as I thought I'd seen she was heading for the USA earlier this week? Fleetmate Western Highway is still up off Isle of Wight - not doing much, but Triton Highway is heading from this anchorage Southwards across the channel, but showing destination Zeebrugge, ETA 2/3/09 - perhaps she is going to go the long way to Zeebrugge?

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on January 18, 2009, 12:53:09 pm
Sierra Nevada Highway seems to be having a bit of an adventure!
She left Southampton a couple of days ago for Bremerhaven. A day later she was charging back down the Channel for Southampton; I didn't make a note of the timings but I am sure she didn't have time to get to Bremerhaven and back so must have turned round.
After 5 or 6 hours in Southampton, she set off for Baltimore and was seen heading out of the Channel yesterday.
Now, as you say, she is anchored in Lyme Bay showing destination Brixham Anchorage.
I too thought the gales may have caused her to turn back but why would they change the destination from Baltimore to Brixham if it was merely seeking shelter?
Come to that, why not seek shelter in the Falmouth area?
A couple of days ago, Triton Highway was showing Zeebrugge with an ETA 22/01/09; at this time (Sunday mid-day) she appears to be joining the eastbound channel traffic so I don't believe either the destination or the ETA (I could swim to Zeebrugge in less than 2 months!)
Incidentally, BBC radio and their web site had in interesting article yesterday about how Southampton is being affected. They quoted Honda as having 10,000 cars stockpiled at their Southampton terminal.
And they referred to the car carriers parked off the Isle of Wight.
They also said there are bulkers there which would have cost $250,000 a day to charter can not find any takers at $3,000 per day (no idea how accurate those figures may be)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7833074.stm


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 18, 2009, 01:19:59 pm
yes you are right Triton Highway heading NE a few minutes ago.....just switched on her last 12 hour track and she is making lovely patterns in the Channel!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 18, 2009, 01:59:38 pm
I understand that if is has not been tested in a court but if they anchor in one place for more than a month they may not be able to claim that they are excercising the right of "anchoring in the course of navigation" and so may then be deemed moored and need to pay either the Crown Estate or the Duchy of Cornwall. or their leaseholders. Eg Sierra Nevada Highway had been at the Nab Anchoroge since 19/12/08 and now a month later has moved to Lyme Bay.

I am using that only for illustration of that type of movement as I have no basis to say that in that particular case it was the reason. I think it may become a feature of "warm lay-ups" to enable owners to reduce costs ie as it is similar to us parking our cars in 30 minute zones and when that time is up driving round the corner to another 30 minute zone to avoid a penalty.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on January 18, 2009, 05:36:56 pm
Looking at Lyme Bay this evening, I wonder if there is another candidate here?
I see Rickmers Dalian heading East with a destination of Port Said.
The company's schedule says it should have left Hamburg on 16 Jan for Jakarta.
Going the wrong way for Port Said/Jakarta?
Meanwhile, Triton Highway has finished making pretty patterns in the Channel and is back were she started!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 18, 2009, 05:41:09 pm
Yes just noticed Rickmer Dalian has done an about turn....it makes you wander how it effects the crews moral of not really know where they are going...certainly keeps us in suspence.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 18, 2009, 07:42:10 pm
Looks like 3 more bulkers heading for Torbay. 'PANORIA' 'GALINA 111' & CAPE MERCURY are all showing destinations but that seems to mean very little these days.
          I would normally suspect they are due to drop North Sea Pilots at Brixham or with the bad south  westerly storms yesterday possible dropping overcarried continental River Pilots....but could they be bound for the Torbay 'box' to await orders???


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 18, 2009, 08:50:08 pm
British Reg VLCC 'OCANA' due at the Torbay Deep Water Anchorage at approx 2245 18/01/09. ....CHANGE OF PLAN VESSEL NOW GOING TO ANCHOR APPROX 14 MILES ENE OF BERRY HEAD.
STAYING FOR AT LEAST A WEEK. SHE WILL HAVE TO HEAVE UP LATER IN THE WEEK TO CLOSER TO TORBAY TO DO A CREW CHANGE BY PILOT LAUNCH.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on January 19, 2009, 09:21:19 am
Just to clarify the term "warm layup". As I understand it, the evidence of this occurring is mostly vessels coming alongside berths or mooring at port anchorages and thus incurring port costs. It could be applied to vessels at anchor elsewhere but, as far as I know, vessels swinging at anchor off port limits are usually deemed to be "awaiting orders".

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on January 19, 2009, 04:11:46 pm
Valle Bianca showing sailing from Hamble 1900 tonight "to sea for  orders" looks like another lay up contender.

rgds
Andrew


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: laurie on January 21, 2009, 09:25:06 pm
Coastal Bulk Shipping

PLA website shows
Erith Pontoon : Martin
Erith Tier: Falcon and Swift
Erith Reach : Teal

A quick visit to Erith today showed that Teal is at the mooring known as Erith Pontoon. Martin, Falcon and Swift are all alongside each other at Erith Tier.


Laurie


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on January 21, 2009, 11:13:31 pm
Hi Andy

AIS showed her as having destination Amsterdam.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: portagent on January 23, 2009, 12:07:24 pm
Containerships laid-up

units              TEU-category
------------------------------------------
65                    500 -> 1.000
75                 1.000  -> 2.000
33                  2.000 -> 3.000
40                  3.000 -> 5.000
33                  5.000 -> 7.500
 9                   > 7.500

in total ard. 255 ships with a total capacity of ard 675.000 TEU were reported mid. January 2009.

source: AXS-Alphaliner


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 23, 2009, 10:27:38 pm
Re Laidup Ships.

'EDEN MARU' LOOKS A GOOD CUSTOMER FOR LYME BAY ANCHORAGE TO 'AWAIT ORDERS'...ALTHOUGH SHOWING DESTINATION 'SAN LORENZO'


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 24, 2009, 10:48:39 am
Additional overnight arrivals in Torbay/Lyme Bay Deep Water Anchorage.
to await orders.
 
'HANJIN IMABARI', SHOWING DEST TUBARAO, BRAZIL
'EDEN MARU',       SHOWING DEST, SAN LORENZO, ARGENTINA
'WORLD SWAN',   SHOWING DES, MONTE VIDEO
'IVS KINGBIRD',    SHOWING DES, ICDAS, TURKEY.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: holedrille on January 25, 2009, 10:51:06 am
AUTO TRANSPORTER due to move from Falmouth Bay to the River Fal Monday afternoon.
David


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 26, 2009, 10:10:17 am
Torbay & Lyme Bay Anchorages have seen a large exodus of vessels early this morning including several Bulk Carriers,Vehicle Carriers and some smaller vessels that have either sheltered or were also awaiting orders...Now only around 6 vessels remain at anchor at 1000hrs this morning.....just checked on my ais and looks like the Bulker...'Panagia' inbound from the West (although showing destination as Al Khums, Libya) is heading towards Lyme Bay..may be to embark a deep sea pilot, but my guess is anchor to await orders.
                                       Brian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 26, 2009, 04:11:14 pm
Autotransporter arrived alongside Autoline in the River Fal at lunchtime today.

The current list of ships in the River Fal is as follows:

In King Harry Reach-

Autoline (car carrier)
Autotransporter (car carrier)
Pietari Glory (reefer)
Pietari Bright (reefer)
Pietari Cliff (reefer)

Tolverne Reach:

Adventure II (bulk)
Challenger II (bulk)
Autocarrier (car carrier)
Windsor Castle (yacht, previously Lighthouse tender)

In Falmouth amongst the shelterers and ships taking bunkers, Delmar (bulk) has been lying off for over a month, Methania (LNG) for a while and MCP Amsterdam (General cargo).

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 26, 2009, 10:10:42 pm
Thanks for the interesting info Krispen
               Cheers,
                Brian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 27, 2009, 08:41:20 am
Another 'Bulker' ...''Brillant Arc'' enroute from Rotterdam to the Torbay Deep Water Anchorage to await orders....
Plenty of room there now after the mass exodus of yesterday.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: jbalfeuk on January 27, 2009, 04:55:48 pm
It seems to have passed unreported that a couple of large tankers have been anchored "for orders" of the Norfolk/Suffolk coast for some time.Difficult to remember when I first noticed them but I think the SKS SKEENA has been there since the end of last year. I think it was off Southwold at first but then moved to about 10 miles off Lowestoft. The FRONT CIRCASSIA is further out (maybe 20 miles from AIS) and has been there several weeks.I seem to remember there was another FRONT tanker there at one time but that has now gone.
    Regarsd Jim


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on January 27, 2009, 05:12:48 pm
Hi Jim,

Yes, I'd noticed them off there - Front Shanghai is the other. I think Leander (ex Elisabeth Maersk) was there as well for a time, though can not confirm this now.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on January 27, 2009, 05:48:00 pm
Please don't lets get too downhearted that ships are being 'laid up' for a while due to current economic conditions. There's still plenty about. Yesterday I spent three hours ship-spotting on the Leas at Folkestone, the visibility wasn't great and you could hardly see anything in the NE Lane. I managed to identify 38 ships--20 Tankers--10 Cargo--1 Dredger--3 Large Containers--1 Bulker--2 Reefers--1 Heavylift Vessel(Heavylift Eagle) bound for Mexico at around 9k. Rgds.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 27, 2009, 10:28:40 pm
New arrival at the Deep Water Anchorage Torbay/Lyme Bay at 2100 today 28/01/09...Tanker ''Morning Express''..not sure how long for.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Darren on January 28, 2009, 07:30:52 pm
Hi Jim,

Front Shanghai has been there since 19/12/08
Front Circassia there since 27/12/08
Sks Skeena there since 1/1/09
Leander now the longest serving resident arriving  28/11/08

Seems there is more oil on top of the sea than under it !

Darren


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: jbalfeuk on January 28, 2009, 08:48:22 pm
Thanks Krispen/Darren for supplying names/dates that I had forgotten.
If we get any good weather I must go down to Lowestoft to see if you can see them with binoculars.......however,good weather in short supply at the moment.
       Best wishes         Jim


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on January 28, 2009, 10:23:22 pm
Lloyds were reporting yesterday that Shell has started to move some of the oil currently being stored afloat.
I don't remember the ships involved but one load was transferred yesterday at Scapa Flow. I do remember one of the tankers involved was one of the "Front" family (not the Shanghai).
I think the piece mentioned that there is approximately 60M barrels stored off shore at the moment and they were surmising that the move by Shell may start the beginning of movement of a lot more of this stuff to refineries.
By the way, you may get your good weather tomorrow! The BBC says pretty good weather Thursday and tropical sunshine Friday!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 28, 2009, 11:24:46 pm
Any news on the two bulk carriers VOYAGER II IMO 8313972 and DEFIANT II IMO 7531357 moored in the docks at Hull of Britannia Bulk that were being auctioned on 19th January ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on January 30, 2009, 10:05:40 am
FWE,

The Voyager II was reportedly sold this week for $3.0 million to undisclosed buyers. Nothing yet on the Defiant II.

The two ex Britannia Bulks at Falmouth, Challenger II and Adventure II, are due to go under the auctioneers hammer on 12th February.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on January 30, 2009, 02:11:11 pm
Bulk Carrier 'BRILLANT ARC' Sailed today at 1300 for Tubarao, Brazil.
 she had been anchored here off Torbay for around a week.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Cornelia Klier on February 01, 2009, 01:13:50 pm
Laid up in the port of Emden (Germany)

CARTAGENA
BF MARYAM
VALENCIA
CARLA
(all in one batch)

JORK RULER
HANSE CONFIDENCE


SÜDEROOG
HOOGE

COURIER
LILLY MITCHELL
JANSUM
BORUSSIA DORTMUND
CONTESS ANNA
FRISIA LÜBECK
JOHN MITCHELL


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mike on February 03, 2009, 09:17:45 pm
Hi Phil
We also have the 'Cala Ponente'  here laid up in Blyth Harbour with a scheduled departure not until 31/3/09
We also have now the 'Kielder' with a scheduled departure of the 28/3/09
Regards
Mike
 8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 07, 2009, 06:55:12 pm
Waterford has suddenly appeared on Southampton VTS departures; due to leave 101 berth sometime 9th Feb with no destination shown.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on February 10, 2009, 08:56:26 am
Norasia Bellatrix ex (Hanjin Pensylvania) due to take the place of waterford at Southampton some time on 12th, vts also shows her due to leave on the 12th. :-?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Adawo on February 10, 2009, 09:22:07 am
F. Laeisz ferry Petersburg is now laid up at Gryfia Shipyard, Szczecin, Poland, afer finish  Scandlines charter.


Title: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on February 10, 2009, 08:51:37 pm
I understand that UK Customs are now insistent that any ship laden or in ballast anchoring within the 12 mile limit (ie not just commercial port limits)  arriving from outside the UK  is required to submit to C69 customs formalities and deliver these forms to the nearest customs office within 24 hours of arrival ie dropping anchor. Is this new regime or a stricter interpretation of an old one in view of the number of idle ships that are now anchored in UK waters around the coastline ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 11, 2009, 06:30:20 am
It's all getting a bit confusing now.
Waterford is now down to leave today (12th), while Norasia Bellatrix has had a change of plan is near Cherbourg, heading for Le Havre.
If you enter Waterford into Lloyds AIS, it puts the ship's position somewhere in the middle of nowhere; 89N 179W.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on February 12, 2009, 01:54:06 pm
Hi all

Waterford departed, ostensibly for Brazil, at 10:21, although she crept out without giving an AIS signal.

Nobleza also left Nab area (she had arrived 21 January), at 13:10 with AIS destination given as Singapore, although if previous departures are anything to go by she may well stop off in Lyme Bay...........

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on February 12, 2009, 10:48:08 pm
Norasia Bellatrix is now in Le Havre so she obviously decided to skip Southampton completly!!

It is now estimated that close to 10% of the world’s container vessels are currently idle.
Latest figures from lloyds show 427 container vessels are unemployed.
The figure breaks down as follows based upon vessel capacity (Teu intake)
41 units with an average capaicty of 5,000 plus teu,
71 in the 2,501 teu-4,999 teu,
138 ships in the 1,001 teu-2,500 teu
177 less than 1,000 teu

This figure is yet again set to grow as NOL have confirmed that they will begin laying up some vessels from next week.

Regards
Andrew

the figures are based on vessels either confirmed in lay up or at anchor which have not moved for 20 days. :-(


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 15, 2009, 10:07:21 am
Andy,
Norasia Bellatrix gets stranger & stranger.
It has been shown as arriving in Southampton 16 Feb for the last couple of days.
But it is due only to go as far as the After Barn mooring buoy which is half way between the Cadland and the Hound. This is shown on charts as a mooring area but the depth is only 2.5m and the buoy itself is 280m from the edge of the channel. Norasia Bellatrix is 282m long and draws 10m, so how will that work?
Then VTS show the ship as sailing the same day from the buoy, destination "World".
Meanwhile, the ship has gone from Le Havre to Rotterdam, left Rotterdam yesterday evening and is currently (Sunday morning) approaching Bremerhaven, heading into Hamburg.
Someone is pulling someone's leg!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on February 15, 2009, 11:58:14 am
Caedmon Currently Laid up in Southampton, pending disposal/sale, the other two C-Class vessels will be joining her soon...

Seafrance Cezanne I believe may be laid up in Dunkerque now as part of the  Seafrance restructuring program


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on February 15, 2009, 07:38:57 pm
Laid up ships. Falmouth Bay update. Still at Anchor after a few weeks are;MCP Amsterdam (9371892) Delmar (9330109) Methania (7357452) she spent 2 days under power away from the bay last week. Silver Constellation (8417883) She is probably under arrest, crew not paid for months, and last week food etc was donated to the crew. ER Sydney, container ship (9169495) and she has now be joined by ER Canberra (9124354) (ex CMA CGM POWER)
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on February 16, 2009, 07:18:55 pm
Kelvin,

her movements are indeed very strange, she arrived Hamburg earlier today as was watching hr on AIS, VTS nos has her showing due 101 berth sometime on 18th?

However not the only strange vessel movement, Marit Maersk arrived in Southampton from Rotterdam on friday only to sail for Hamburg? she has now left hamburg on her way to Malaga.

what on earth is going on!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 16, 2009, 09:21:05 pm
Andy,

All I can say is try confused.com!
I see Caedmon is still appearing as regular candidate for departure; 17th TBA, destination "world" is the latest offering!
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on February 16, 2009, 09:41:32 pm
From 'Ferries of Northern Europe'

The Caedmon is derelict for now, a ghostship. She isn't scheduled to go anywhere soon...

Just a glitch in the VTS System, I think


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 17, 2009, 08:54:20 am
Andy,
Norasia Bellatrix left Hamburg this morning, allegedly for Southampton 11:00 tomorrow.
Next question has to be; why would a container ship be heading for 101 berth?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on February 17, 2009, 07:22:36 pm
Kelvin,

well the strange case of this vessel continues!

firstly someone better tell vts as she is not showing on arrivals for tomorrow, there have been rumours for a while that Zodiac would lay up a container vessel after he Waterford sailed so she would be heading for 101 berth for lay up as she is not on any service that calls at Southampton.

think ill keep tomorrow free should she actually decide to call!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on February 17, 2009, 10:13:57 pm
AIS now shows Norasia Bellatrix heading for Lyme Bay Anchorage due 1100hrs 18th.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Julian on February 19, 2009, 02:40:58 pm
bulkers and reefers in the Fal;
The Admiralty sales details for the 5 ships can be found at
http://www.omccthailand.com/webboard/show.php?Category=shp01&No=3467 (Pietari Cliff, Glory, Bright) (Challenger ii, and Adventure Ii)
Artic Galaxy has been anchored south of the Lizard for some time now.
(N 49°40.222' W 5°13.893' ) (2008/62400) tanker (IMO: 9410179) Is she laden or in balast?
Does anybody know?
Julian


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Brian Clayton on February 19, 2009, 05:22:19 pm
I can confirm Norasia Bellatrix has been anchored off Torbay for a couple of days. Very light ship.
Bri


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Hawkeye on February 20, 2009, 03:13:48 am
The Stena Discovery is laid up in Belfast (has been for about two years). The Stena Transporter will be laid on the 1st March, possibly in Rotterdam, thou I'm not sure where.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Robert J Smith on February 22, 2009, 03:51:01 pm
I heard that the MCA inspectors have been onboard the bulk carrier ANTALINA (IMO 8314794) at the sugar refinery at North Woolwich, They found so much wrong they had to go back the next day to complete the inspection. Another candidate for Tilbury dock I suppose  :-(

See Ken Smith's photo

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=838893

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Brian Clayton on February 27, 2009, 10:22:22 pm
Norasia Bellatrix left lyme bay anchorage this morning, bound for antwerp (according to AIS).  
Eva N, arrived in ballast on the 25th Feb
Ondina arrived today 27th (loaded).

Currently anchored Lyme Bay
Oliva & Ondina (Loaded VLCCs)
Eva N   (VLOC - in Ballast)
Morning Express & Champion Peace (Loaded Tankers)
Bri


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 28, 2009, 11:00:46 am
Is Lyme Bay about to receive another "guest"?
This morning, the tug Eurosund IMO IMO 7719698 is passing south of Selsey at a nice gentle 3 knots. Unless they are rowing, I presume this speed might indicate they are towing something. Destination is shown as Lyme Bay, 06:00 1st March.
Meanwhile, something my be stirring in Southampton with Broadgate showing up on the daprtures schedule for tomorrow, destination "World".
The vehicle carriers Western Highway and Eastern Highway have been anchored at the Nab anchorage for around 2 weeks now.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on February 28, 2009, 02:31:20 pm
Well the good old lady seems to have found a higher gear as AIS tells me she is doing over 9 knots as she comes abeam of St Catherines.(1415)..unless she has found some very strong following tide.
        Could it be that she is towing some Gear for the final assault on the remains of the 'Napoli' (i think the new contactors are due to start soon.
                                   Brimar


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on February 28, 2009, 04:02:21 pm
It is quite possible that this is what is going on.
Last month it was announced that a new company, Global Response Maritime will be taking on the job.
They are sending a crane barge, Anna, and a couple of large flat-topped barges equipped with cranes etc.
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on March 01, 2009, 09:08:12 am
'EUROSUND'  IMO7719698.....  Now in postion with savage equipment over the remains of the 'NAPOLI'....At 1000 Brixham Pilot Vessel 'Celia T' enroute to Eurosund to possible t/f personal.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 01, 2009, 09:34:38 am
Summary

Laid-by at Anchor from Bridlington Bay to Falmouth Bay at 28/02/09 1200

Southwold Anch Since 28/11/08 Oil tanker LEANDER IMO 9179608 Loa 333m (Laden / Storage)
Southwold Anch Since 27/12/08 Oil tanker FRONT CIRCASSIA IMO 9166742 Loa 333 m (Laden / Storage)
 Southwold Anch Since 19/12/08 Oil tanker  FRONT SHANGHAI IMO 9310147 Loa 333 m (Laden / Storage)
 Southwold Anch Since 04/02/09 Oil tanker ENERGY CENTURION IMO 9387970 Loa 228 m Laden / Storage)
Nab Anch IOW Since 19/02/09 Car carrier EASTERN HIGHWAY IMO 9325764 Loa 188 m
Nab Anch IOW Since 19/02/09 Car carrier WESTERN HIGHWAY IMO 9325776 Loa 188 m
Lyme Bay Since 27/01/09 Oil tanker MORNING EXPRESS IMO 9208095 Loa 239 m (Laden / Storage)
Lyme Bay Since 10/02/09 Oil tanker CHAMPION PEACE IMO 9195315 Loa 241 m (Laden / Storage)
Lyme Bay Since 16/02/09 Oil tanker OLIVA IMO 9196606 Loa 333m(Laden / Storage)
Lyme Bay Since 25/02/09 Bulk carrier EVA N IMO 9127150 Loa 315 m
Lyme Bay Since 27/02/09 Oil tanker ONDINA IMO 9248485 Loa 280 m (Laden / Storage)
Falmouth Bay Since 14/01/09 LNG Tanker METHANIA IMO 7357452 Loa 280 m  (Laden / Storage)
Falmouth Bay Since 25/01/09 Bulk carrier SILVER CONSTELLATION IMO 8417883 Loa 273 m
Falmouth Bay Since 18/12/08 Bulk carrier DELMAR IMO 9330109 Loa 188 m
Falmouth Bay Since 15/01/09 Container ship MCP AMSTERDAM IMO 9371892 Loa 117 m

Laid-up Moored from Blyth to Falmouth at 28/02/09 1200

Blyth: Since 28/12/08 Container ship CALA PONENTE IMO 9232656 Loa 185 m
Blyth Since 28/01/09 Bulk carrier KIELDER IMO 8843850 Loa 90 m  
Teesport : Since 06/12/08 Container ship CALA POSITANO IMO 9123037 Loa 185 m  
Teesport : Since 01/12/08 Container ship CALA PORTOFINO IMO 9139806 Loa 185 m  
Teesport Since 28/12/08  Sub-sea support VOLANTIS IMO 9399533 Loa 105 m  
Hull Dock: Since 18/08/08 Bulk carrier ANTIC IMO 8213457  Loa 47 m    
Hull Dock Since 08/12/08 Bulk carrier LERRIX IMO 7530901 Loa 79 m  
Hull Dock Since 08/01/09 Bulk carrier HARRIX IMO 7530884 Loa 79 m  
Hull Dock Since 29/01/09 Bulk carrier VERITY IMO 9229178 Loa 91 m  
Hull Dock Since 02/02/09 Bulk carrier SOYANA IMO 8912819 Loa 98m  
Hull Dock Since 17/02/09 Bulk carrier FGM EUROPE IMO 8313972 Loa 195 m  
Hull Dock Since 06/02/09  Bulk carrier SALINE IMO 9048641 Loa 90 m
Hull Dock Since 25/02/09 Bulk carrier ASPET IMO 8881682 Loa 122 m
Tilbury  Since 17/11/08 Vehicle ferry IPSWICH WAY IMO 7816496 Loa 111 m
Tilbury Since 14/11/08 Vehicle ferry EGLANTINE IMO 8302806 Loa  148 m.  
Tilbury Since 20/11/08  HSC ferry SPEEDONE IMO 9161560 Loa 86 m  
Tilbury Since 06/09/07  HSC ferry EMERAUDE FRANCE IMO 8903703 Loa 74 m
Tower Whf Since 27/02/09 Bulk carrier ANTALINA IMO 8314794 Loa 179 m  
Woolwich: Since 20/12/08 Bulk carrier LARK IMO 8324581 Loa 59 m  
Woolwich Since 02/12/08 Bulk carrier ARDENT IMO 8213445 Loa 55 m  
Gallions Reach Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier SWALLOW IMO 8420921 Loa  59 m.
Erith Since 17/12/08 Bulk carrier FALCON IMO 9006423 Loa 78 m  
Erith: Since 20/12/08 Bulk carrier MARTIN IMO 8510295 Loa 59 m  
Erith Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier SWIFT IMO 8804787 Loa 59 m  
Erith Since 22/12/08  Bulk carrier PIPIT  IMO 8324593  Loa 58 m  
Erith Since 22/12/08 Bulk carrier TEAL IMO 8813051 Loa  58 m  
Gillingham (from Erith) Since 14/01/09 Bulk carrier CURLEW IMO 8519954 Loa 58 m  
Gillingham Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier FULMAR IMO 8804775 Loa 59 m  
Gillingham (from Erith) Since 14/01/09 Bulk carrier REDWING IMO 8805482 Loa 59 m
Rochester Since 23/12/08 Bulk carrier SCOT RANGER IMO 9138769 Loa 85 m  
Southampton Since 24/11/08 LNG carrier MARGARET HILL IMO 7368841  Loa 262 m
Southampton: Since 28/11/08 Bulk carrier MORNING CLOUD IMO 8025795  Loa 230 m  
Southampton: Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier BROADGATE  IMO 8213847  Loa 176 m  
River Fal: Since XX/XX/XX Private yacht WINDSOR CASTLE Loa 73 m IMO 5419957
River Fal: Since 19/12/98 Car carrier AUTOCARRIER IMO 8100519 Loa 90m  
River Fal: Since 22/12/08 Reefer PIETARI GLORY IMO 7809314 Loa 168 m
River Fal Since 23/12/08 Car carrier AUTOLINE IMO 8200565 Loa 100 m  
River Fal Since 29/12/08 Reefer PIETARI BRIGHT IMO 7716555 Loa 156 m
River Fal Since 30/12/08 Reefer PIETARI CLIFF IMO 8301034 Loa 135 m  
River Fal Since 05/01/09 Bulk carrier ADVENTURE II IMO 7900261 Loa 176 m
River Fal Since 06/01/09 Bulk carrier CHALLENGER II  IMO 7612735 Loa 177 m  
River Fal Since 26/01/09 Car carrier AUTO TRANSPORTER IMO 8200577 Loa 100 m  

E&OE Any corrections or comments etc welcome (Some of above are arrested by Admiralty Marshall or detained by the MCA)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Brian Clayton on March 01, 2009, 10:35:36 am
Latest arrival Lyme Bay, another Shell tanker, TORINIA (9285847) arrived last night (28th Feb)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on March 01, 2009, 12:28:18 pm
I have to correct one of your entries---SCOT RANGER sailed from Rochester on 13th February 2009 showing destination AALBORG.  Rgds.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 01, 2009, 10:21:04 pm
Delmar laft Falmouth last week.

LNG Arctic Galaxy is storing a cargo south of the Lizard Point.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Graham Dines on March 02, 2009, 04:49:46 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but where is Southwold Anchorage? Is it off Southwold in Suffolk?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Bob Scott on March 02, 2009, 07:21:02 pm
Grazzer: yes; four to six (or more) miles offshore.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 02, 2009, 08:21:29 pm
Yes. Southwold in Suffolk. I also understand that ship to ship transfers of oil may also take place there as occured in Lyme Bay before it was banned. However I understand that the ships off Southwold listed above are being used for the storage of oil and not for ship to ship transfers.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Bob Scott on March 02, 2009, 08:29:08 pm
FWE: as far as I know, you are spot-on!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on March 03, 2009, 01:28:26 pm
Looking out of my window I see Its beginning to fill up again in Lyme Bay ....There will be an additional customer for anchorage in about 2 hours time....The Box ship,...'HANJIN TIANJIN' will be a anchoring in Lyme Bay and not proceeding to her 'ais' given destination of Port Said/Suez. after dropping her North Sea Pilot.                           Brimar.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: rondavies on March 04, 2009, 01:35:17 pm
Suggest a note of caution to those who speculate on what is going on off  our coasts... particularly Southwold... Anyone who reads the local paper for the area will know the name of its political editor, and that name has suddenly appeared on here...seemingly feigning a lack of knowledge about the Southwold area. Co-incidence?

Anything concerning storage of oil offshore is a hot potato and maybe this is not the site for devious means of trying to extract info from enthusiasts so as to fabricate a potentially sensational story.   Also..if one newspaper is doing it, there are likely to be others!  

As enthusiasts of any kind, we all know how the image of anybody who spots anything is portrayed in the press....seems we're useful for some purposes then....!

Perhaps the moderator would like to comment..

regards
Ron


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 04, 2009, 02:20:06 pm
As data is from AIS then laden or unladen status is at first difficult to determine as this is not reported. However the fixtures of oil tankers for storage is widely reported in the shipping media.

It is not speculation on my part as claimed but fact these tankers are in effect being used for storage. I accept they are not then relevant to this particular thread ie on "laid up ships".

I share concern that enthusiasts are not unknowingly solicited by the press but at the same time feel we must beware as ship "spotters" we are not discouraged to report what we see.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Patrick Hill on March 04, 2009, 07:57:29 pm
Hull Dock Since 02/02/09 Bulk carrier SOYANA IMO 8912819 Loa 98m
believed still working cargo - slow discharge berth
Hull Dock Since 17/02/09 Bulk carrier FGM EUROPE IMO 8313972 Loa 195 m - still detained but loaded with scrap metal
Hull Dock Since 06/02/09 Bulk carrier SALINE IMO 9048641 Loa 90 m - casualty - had engine room fire
Hull Dock Since 25/02/09 Bulk carrier ASPET IMO 8881682 Loa 122 m detained


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: rondavies on March 04, 2009, 09:40:50 pm
Sorry FWE not particularly aiming at you... this is about misuse of our site by those with ulterior motives...or so it would appear.  AIS brings a greater knowledge of what is going on.. and it is easy to report info on a blog...but that also makes it easier for those with other motives to take advantage of it.  Perhaps we have a duty of care to our own hobby not to over do what we report...interesting question.....  no doubt many have a view on it.

A sensational article in the press alleging rustbuckets hanging around etc as we've seen before...which is the opposite of the true condition of the much vetted and regulated vessels these days,  would serve only to drive those vessels elsewhere...and we are then again the losers as enthusiasts

Cheers, Ron


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 04, 2009, 10:38:20 pm
I accept I should leave them out of any further reports as they are not "laid up" per the thread.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on March 05, 2009, 01:44:26 pm
This hobby is also about sharing information and the forum has developed in the last year or so from gripes about problems with the site to genuine, interesting posts containing useful information. To stop sharing information just in case others use it for malicious intent is a step too far in my opinion. We have enough pressure from those in authority to curtail our hobby for the sake of our "security" or "health and safety". OK, there is a risk, but just like being told I can't do go out onto a breakwater to photograph ships, just in case I get hurt, I don't particularly wan't to be told what information I can and can't share either, "just in case"....

FWE - Your rundown of ships both laid up and in awaiting orders / in storage was extremely useful. It's just the kind of post that this forum needs.  The fact that some of those vessels are not strictly laid up is just nit picking in my opinion.

Maybe the answer is to vet more carefully those new members who join the site, not to discourage members from sharing info.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mats on March 05, 2009, 04:44:51 pm
I agree with you completely, Phil. There is no need to be careful on what you report here, unless it is information that is confidential by law or contract with one's employer. The media will report what it wants, and noone here can be held liable or be blamed for simply reporting facts, impressions, rumours or thoughts.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: SD7 on March 06, 2009, 10:40:04 am
How do I get to view thread pages 4 to 24?

On other topics there's a list of replies to the original post. But not here it seems.

Thanks,

Steve Thomas.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Robert J Smith on March 06, 2009, 11:51:29 am
Quote

SD7 wrote:
How do I get to view thread pages 4 to 24?

On other topics there's a list of replies to the original post. But not here it seems.

Thanks,

Steve Thomas.


Hi Steve,

Just click the page numbers at the bottom of the page, the more you read, the more displayed.

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 08, 2009, 04:41:22 pm
Subject of earlier comment etc the Shell oil tanker OLIVA IMO 9196606 Loa 333 m arrived Southwold Anchorage 06/03/09 from Lyme Bay, having been anchored there since 16/02/09.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 08, 2009, 07:50:07 pm
Vehicle carrier SOUTHERN HIGHWAY IMO 9338632 Loa 188 m arrived Nab Anchorage IOW on 06/03/09 joining sisters EASTERN HIGHWAY IMO 9325764 and WESTERN HIGHWAY IMO 9325776 both having arrived there on 19/02/09.  Also at St Helens Anch IOW since 08/03/09 vehicle carrier SETUBAL IMO 7812452 Loa 138m and at Salt Mead Anch IOW Since 06/03/09 vehicle carrier AUTOPROGRESS IMO 9131967  Loa 125 m unkown if laden or unladen.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mats on March 13, 2009, 01:36:26 pm
Wallenius Wilhelmsen have started laying up vessels in Norway. It's a popular country for vessel lay-ups due to the protection of the fjords, and the low water temperature which limits marine growth.

Toba and Tapiola arrived this week, and at least three more are on their way:
http://www.avisenagder.no/Nyheter/tabid/250/articleView/true/moduleid/20823/Default.aspx
http://farsunds-avis.no/artikkel.asp?Artid=41548
(http://www.avisenagder.no/Portals/4/artikkelbilder/2009/03/20093121661081_3.jpg)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on March 13, 2009, 04:34:40 pm
Not here at me, at least not when i am logged in. Strange, and highly annoying.
a bit like me, then.

Tomaso

I cant see numbers at the bottom of the screen, that is.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Cornelia Klier on March 13, 2009, 05:35:48 pm
Tomas, do you try to tell that there are no ships laid up at Larvik ? Sorry your message is not easy to understand.

Here though, a few laid up containerships at Hamburg can be seen:
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=853177


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on March 13, 2009, 06:51:24 pm
Hi FWE

The K Line vessels are not strictly laid up, The reason for Eastern, Western and Southern Highways sitting idle at the Nab Anchorages is that K-Line are about to cease their North Atlantic Shuttle Service on which these vessels were employed. Southern Highway completed her final rotation
and Western Highway makes the final rotation for now of this service, beginning Bremerhaven 24th March, calling Southampton 27th March and finishing back in Bremerhaven on 22nd April.

Info. gleaned from Solent Waters website shipping news.

Autoprogress sailed for Le Havre at 17:44hrs 12 March after calls at 105 and 31 berths.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on March 13, 2009, 09:20:11 pm
Looks like another VLCC bound for The Deep Sea Anchorage in Lyme Bay for  floating storage..maybe?......'ALMIZAN STAR' IMO..9384215 Due 2230 13/03/09....AIS Destination showing Brixham so on the other hand she may be just picking up the Deep Sea Pilot there and then re-adjusting her destination to Rotterdam?.....(Now adjusted ETA for Brixham as 0100.. 14/03/09)        
                        UPDATE....Vessel boarded Deep Sea Pilot Off Brixham at 2359 local..and proceeding East...still showing Brixham but no doubt bound to R'Dam.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on March 14, 2009, 09:56:59 am
The Pride of Canterbury has finished lay up and is now back in service.  :-D


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Arnes on March 14, 2009, 04:59:54 pm
Norwegian ro/ro-vessel SEA CORONA observed laid-up at Nakskov, Denmark. According to our pilot she had arrived early february. She will stay there "until further notice"


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Patrick Hill on March 17, 2009, 09:43:34 pm
FGM Europe sailed from Hull today bound for Nemrut Bay loaded with scrap.
Saline due to sail from Hull to River Trent soon.
Soyana still in port - possibly repairs as freefall lifeboat on deck.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 19, 2009, 06:09:53 pm
Oil tanker TORM HELENE IMO 9143532 Loa 244 m anchored Lyme Bay today joining TORINIA IMO 9285847 Loa 250 m and ONDINA IMO 9248485 Loa 280 m and MORINING EXPRESS IMO 9208095 Loa 239 m together with ore oil carrier ALKMAN IMO 8106771 Loa 225 m and ore carrier EVA N IMO 9127150 Loa 305 m.

Oil tanker FRONT SHANGHAI IMO 9310147 Loa 333 m previously reported in Southwold Anchorage is now in Falmouth Bay


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 23, 2009, 01:21:55 pm
Car carrier AUTOPRESTIGE IMO 9190157 Loa 129 m is in Falmouth Bay with AIS showing destination as "Lay-up", but port shows moving from Bay to Sea on 24/03/09 ?

Are there any movements out of lay-up down there from the arrested ships etc laid up in the River Fal earlier perhaps now being sold to new owners for trading or scrapping ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 23, 2009, 03:11:49 pm
No news on Autoprestige, but imagine she'll take a berth in the Fal this week.

Pietari Cliff, now TIBOR, she's been sold for further trading. Pietari Glory (today renamed GLORY) and Pietari Bright are both about to take their last voyages after being sold for scrap. Again due to go this week or next. Britannia Bulk vessels Challenger II and Adventure II have been sold for further trading and renamed Challen and Advent.

These will all clear out in the next couple of weeks, allowing for another batch (I HOPE!)

Krispen  :-D


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 23, 2009, 05:03:46 pm
Updated position at 23/03/09 on the UK South and East Coast appears to be:

Ships anchored for 7 days or more from Bridlington Bay to Falmouth Bay

Bridlington Bay Since 17/03/09 Oil tanker CS STEALTH IMO 9308819 Loa 242 m
Southwold Anch Since 28/11/08 Oil tanker LEANDER IMO 9179608 Loa 333m  
Southwold Anch Since 19/12/08 Oil tanker  FRONT SHANGHAI IMO 9310147 Loa 333 m  
Margate Roads Since 14/03/09 Gas tanker MONSOON IMO 8811766 Loa 99 m
Margate Roads Since 17/03/09 Chemical tanker NISSUM MAERSK IMO 9340623 Loa 144 m  
Nab Anch IOW Since 19/02/09 Car carrier WESTERN HIGHWAY IMO 9325776 Loa 188 m  
Nab Anch IOW Since 06/03/09 Car carrier SOUTHERN HIGHWAY IMO 9338632 Loa 188 m
Lyme Bay Since 27/01/09 Oil tanker MORNING EXPRESS IMO 9208095 Loa 239 m  
Lyme Bay Since 25/02/09 Bulk carrier EVA N IMO 9127150 Loa 315 m
Lyme Bay Since 28/02/09 Oil tanker TORINIA IMO 9285847 Loa 250 m  
Lyme Bay Since 03/03/09 Ore/Oil carrier ALKMAN IMO 8106771 Loa 225 m
Falmouth Bay Since 25/01/09 Bulk carrier SILVER CONSTELLATION IMO 8417883 Loa 273 m
Falmouth Bay Since 14/01/09 LNG tanker METHANIA IMO 7357452 Loa 280 m
Falmouth Bay Since 15/03/09 Car carrier AUTOPRESTIGE IMO 9190157 Loa 129 m
 
Ships moored in port appearing laid-up ie inactive from Blyth to Falmouth

Blyth Since 28/12/08 Container ship CALA PONENTE IMO 9232656 Loa 185 m  
Blyth Since 28/01/09 Bulk carrier KIELDER IMO 8843850 Loa 90 m  
Teesport  Since 06/12/08 Container ship CALA POSITANO IMO 9123037 Loa 185 m  
Teesport  Since 01/12/08 Container ship CALA PORTOFINO IMO 9139806 Loa 185 m  
Teesport Since 28/12/08  Sub-sea support VOLANTIS IMO 9399533 Loa 105 m
Hull Dock Since 18/08/08 Bulk carrier ANTIC IMO 8213457  Loa 47 m  
Hull Dock Since 08/12/08 Bulk carrier LERRIX IMO 7530901 Loa 79 m  
Hull Dock Since 08/01/09 Bulk carrier HARRIX IMO 7530884 Loa 79 m  
Hull Dock Since 02/02/09 Bulk carrier SOYANA IMO 8912819 Loa 98m  
Hull Dock Since 25/02/09 Bulk carrier ASPET IMO 8881682 Loa 122 m    
Tilbury  Since 17/11/08 Vehicle ferry IPSWICH WAY IMO 7816496 Loa 111 m
Tilbury Since 14/11/08 Vehicle ferry EGLANTINE IMO 8302806 Loa  148 m.
Tilbury Since 20/11/08  HSC ferry SPEEDONE IMO 9161560 Loa 86 m  
Tilbury Since 06/09/07  HSC ferry EMERAUDE FRANCE IMO 8903703 Loa 74 m
Woolwich Since 20/12/08 Bulk carrier LARK IMO 8324581 Loa 59 m  
Woolwich Since 02/12/08 Bulk carrier ARDENT IMO 8213445 Loa 55 m
Gallions Reach Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier SWALLOW IMO 8420921 Loa  59 m
Erith Since 17/12/08 Bulk carrier FALCON IMO 9006423 Loa 78 m
Erith Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier SWIFT IMO 8804787 Loa 59 m
Erith Since 22/12/08 Bulk carrier TEAL IMO 8813051 Loa  58 m    
Erith Since 20/12/08 Bulk carrier MARTIN IMO 8510295 Loa 59 m  
Hoo Since 27/02/09 Bulk carrier PIPIT IMO 8324593  Loa 58 m  
Gillingham Since 14/01/09 Bulk carrier CURLEW IMO 8519954 Loa 58 m  
Gillingham Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier FULMAR IMO 8804775 Loa 59 m  
Gillingham Since 14/01/09 Bulk carrier REDWING IMO 8805482 Loa 59 m  
Southampton Since 24/11/08 LNG carrier MARGARET HILL IMO 7368841  Loa 262 m  
River Fal Since XX/XX/00 Private yacht WINDSOR CASTLE IMO 5419957 Loa 73 m
River Fal Since 19/12/98 Car carrier AUTOCARRIER IMO 8100519 Loa 90m
River Fal Since 22/12/08 Reefer GLORY IMO 7809314 Loa 168 m  
River Fal Since 23/12/08 Car carrier AUTOLINE IMO 8200565 Loa 100 m
River Fal Since 29/12/08 Reefer PIETARI BRIGHT IMO 7716555 Loa 156 m
River Fal Since 30/12/08 Reefer TIBOR  IMO 8301034 Loa 135 m  
River Fal Since 05/01/09 Bulk carrier ADVENT IMO 7900261 Loa 176 m
River Fal Since 06/01/09 Bulk carrier CHALLEN  IMO 7612735 Loa 177 m
River Fal Since 26/01/09 Car carrier AUTO TRANSPORTER IMO 8200577 Loa 100 m  

Any comments or corrections etc welcome


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 23, 2009, 05:13:15 pm
Advent is now due to sail tomorrow afternoon from River Fal.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 24, 2009, 04:23:34 pm
Challen (ex Challenger II) left River Fal today for Muuga.
Advent (ex Adventure II) expected to sail tomorrow.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 25, 2009, 05:46:11 pm
Reefer TIBOR (Ex PIETARI CLIFF) IMO 8301034 Loa 135 m sailing River Fal 26/03/09

Container ship SANTA GIULIANA IMO 9126481 Loa 182 m due in River Fal 27/03/09


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 26, 2009, 03:32:18 pm
Under the SOLAS Revision of 2004 Chapter V Paragraph 10 AIS should "always be in operation when ships are at anchor" . It is unclear why we are sometimes seeing intermittent or no signals from some ships that are idle at anchor. Any ideas on this ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 27, 2009, 10:11:23 pm
ADVENT (ex Adventure II) sailed this evening from the River Fal. Morgawr, the Fowey Harbour tug helped with the ship's departure.
SANTA GIULANNA now expected Monday.

Krispen  8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Glenn Towler on March 28, 2009, 10:43:43 am
Don't know if they fit into this discussion

Aurora Australis and L'astrolabe have commenced their winter lay ups in Hobart, Tasmania, Australia.  Aurora will return to work for the Australain Antarctic Program in mid September and the L'astrolabe will return to work for the French and Italian Antarctic Programs in November.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 29, 2009, 06:28:02 pm
Container ship SANTA GIULIETTA IMO 9141778 Loa 182 m due in River Fal 30/03/09 with SANTA GIULIANA IMO 9126481 Loa 182 m now joining 31/03/09


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 30, 2009, 09:42:41 am
SANTA GUILANA was the first up, she arrived on the moorings around 8am this morning - with the three Falmouth tugs in attendance. She looks pretty impressive! No confirmation yet of when SANTA GUILIETTA will join her, it'll be either tonIght or tomorrow I suspect.

Both Glory and Bright (ex Pietari's) now showing Basseterre, St Kitts & Nevis as port of register.

Krispen  8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 31, 2009, 10:51:33 am
Container ship MAERSK BENTONVILLE IMO 9313929  Loa 294 m idle at Tongue Anchorage off North Foreland in Kent since 20/03/09


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 31, 2009, 11:53:57 am
MAERSK BENTONVILLE appears to be empty in Tongue Anchorage.

SANTA GUILIETTA laid up this morning, alongside sistership SANTA GUILIANA in River Fal.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on March 31, 2009, 08:12:41 pm
Updated position at 31/03/09 on UK East and South Coast appears to be :

Anchored - Laid-by from Bridlington Bay to Falmouth Bay awaiting orders  

Southwold Anch Since 28/11/08 Oil tanker LEANDER IMO 9179608 Loa 333m    
Southwold Anch Since 19/12/08 Oil tanker  FRONT SHANGHAI IMO 9310147 Loa 333 m  
Southwold Anch Since 23/03/09 Products tanker MAERSK BARRY IMO 9299458 Loa 175 m
Southend Anch Since 28/03/09 Bulk carrier UNION TITAN IMO 8416750 Loa 88 m  
Margate Roads Since 14/03/09 Gas tanker MONSOON IMO 8811766 Loa 99 m  
Margate Roads Since 26/03/09 Chemical tanker STABILITY IMO 9268162 Loa 93 m  
Margate Roads Since 26/03/09 Chemical tanker TARNFORS IMO 9167930 Loa 115 m  
Margate Roads Since 27/03/09 Chemical tanker THAMES FISHER IMO 9145011 Loa 92 m
Margate Roads Since 27/03/09 Bulk carrier RMS LAAR IMO 8508400 Loa 83 m  
Margate Roads Since 29/03/09 Chemical tanker DUTCH PILOT IMO 8300963 Loa 91m
Margate Roads Since 30/03/09 Products tanker BRO GLOBE IMO 9229051 Loa 115 m  
Margate Roads Since 31/03/09 Chemical tanker LEONI THERESA IMO 9377092  Loa 89 m  
Tongue Anch Since 20/03/09 Container ship MAERSK BENTONVILLE IMO 9313929  Loa 294 m
Nab Anch IOW Since 06/03/09 Car carrier SOUTHERN HIGHWAY IMO 9338632 Loa 188 m  
Nab Anch IOW Since 17/03/09 Products tanker TRAVESTERN IMO 9053206 Loa 161 m  
Nab Anch IOW Since 25/03/09 Car carrier PRINCES HIGHWAY IMO 8513194 Loa 199 m  
Nab Anch IOW Since 25/03/09 Car carrier CARRIBEAN HIGHWAY IMO 9243473 Loa 189 m
Nab Anch IOW Since 30/03/09 Oil tanker LOVINA IMO 9308833 Loa 243 m
Lyme Bay Since 27/01/09 Oil tanker MORNING EXPRESS IMO 9208095 Loa 239 m
Lyme Bay Since 28/02/09 Oil tanker TORINIA IMO 9285847 Loa 250 m  
Lyme Bay Since 03/03/09 Ore / Oil carrier ALKMAN IMO 8106771 Loa 225 m
Lyme Bay Since 25/03/09 Oil tanker DONAX IMO 9215050 Loa 244 m  
Lyme Bay Since 29/03/09 Oil tanker FRONT SCILLA IMO  9172856 Loa 332 m  
Lyme Bay Since 31/03/09 Oil tanker ASTRO TAURUS IMO 9012915 Loa 332 m  
Plymouth Sound Since 30/03/09 Chemical tanker BRO DELIVERER IMO 9313096 Loa 147 m
Falmouth Bay Since 25/01/09 Bulk carrier SILVER CONSTELLATION IMO 8417883 Loa 273 m
Falmouth Bay Since 14/01/09 LNG tanker METHANIA IMO 7357452 Loa 280 m    
Falmouth Bay Since 13/03/09 Products tanker FARANDOL IMO 8617017 Loa 172 m  
Falmouth Bay Since 23/03/09 Products tanker PERKA IMO 8405842 Loa 183 m
Falmouth Bay Since 28/03/09 Products tanker EBONY POINT IMO 9290608 Loa 182 m  

+++++++++

Moored - Laid-up ie inactive from Blyth to Falmouth

Blyth Since 28/12/08 Container ship CALA PONENTE IMO 9232656 Loa 185 m  
Blyth Since 28/01/09 Bulk carrier KIELDER IMO 8843850 Loa 90 m  
Teesport  Since 06/12/08 Container ship CALA POSITANO IMO 9123037 Loa 185 m  
Teesport  Since 01/12/08 Container ship CALA PORTOFINO IMO 9139806 Loa 185 m  
Teesport Since 28/12/08  Sub-sea support VOLANTIS IMO 9399533 Loa 105 m  
Hull Dock Since 18/08/08 Bulk carrier ANTIC IMO 8213457  Loa 47 m    
Hull Dock Since 08/12/08 Bulk carrier LERRIX IMO 7530901 Loa 79 m  
Hull Dock Since 08/01/09 Bulk carrier HARRIX IMO 7530884 Loa 79 m  
Hull Dock Since 02/02/09 Bulk carrier SOYANA IMO 8912819 Loa 98m
Hull Dock Since 25/02/09 Bulk carrier ASPET IMO 8881682 Loa 122 m
Tilbury Since 14/11/08 Vehicle ferry EGLANTINE IMO 8302806 Loa  148 m  
Tilbury Since 20/11/08  HSC ferry SPEEDONE IMO 9161560 Loa 86 m  
Tilbury Since 06/09/07  HSC ferry EMERAUDE FRANCE IMO 8903703 Loa 74 m  
Woolwich Since 20/12/08 Bulk carrier LARK IMO 8324581 Loa 59 m  
Woolwich Since 02/12/08 Bulk carrier ARDENT IMO 8213445 Loa 55 m  
Gallions Reach Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier SWALLOW IMO 8420921 Loa  59 m
Erith Since 17/12/08 Bulk carrier FALCON IMO 9006423 Loa 78 m
Erith Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier SWIFT IMO 8804787 Loa 59 m  
Erith Since 22/12/08 Bulk carrier TEAL IMO 8813051 Loa  58 m    
Erith Since 20/12/08 Bulk carrier MARTIN IMO 8510295 Loa 59 m
Hoo Since 27/02/09 Bulk carrier PIPIT IMO 8324593  Loa 58 m
Gillingham Since 14/01/09 Bulk carrier CURLEW IMO 8519954 Loa 58 m  
Gillingham Since 19/12/08 Bulk carrier FULMAR IMO 8804775 Loa 59 m  
Gillingham Since 14/01/09 Bulk carrier REDWING IMO 8805482 Loa 59 m    
Southampton Since 24/11/08 LNG carrier MARGARET HILL IMO 7368841  Loa 262 m  
Falmouth Dock Since 25/03/09 Car carrier AUTOPRESTIGE IMO 9190157 Loa 129 m  
River Fal Since XX/XX/00 Private yacht WINDSOR CASTLE  IMO 5419957  Loa 73 m
River Fal Since 19/12/98 Car carrier AUTOCARRIER IMO 8100519 Loa 90m  
River Fal Since 22/12/08 Reefer GLORY IMO 7809314 Loa 168 m  
River Fal Since 23/12/08 Car carrier AUTOLINE IMO 8200565 Loa 100 m
River Fal Since 29/12/08 Reefer BRIGHT IMO 7716555 Loa 156 m
River Fal Since 26/01/09 Car carrier AUTO TRANSPORTER IMO 8200577 Loa 100 m  
River Fal Since 30/03/09 Container ship  SANTA GIULIANA IMO 9126481 Loa 182 m  
River Fal Since 31/03/09 Container ship SANTA GIULIETTA IMO 9141778 Loa 182 m  

Any comments or amendments welcome


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on March 31, 2009, 10:30:43 pm
At the moment AUTOPRESTIGE is due to lay-up on Thursday in River Fal.

Pictures of Santa Giuliana's arrival now added to the galleries - see Santa Giuliana (1) (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=866275) Santa Giuliana (2) (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=866280)

Krispen  :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on April 02, 2009, 05:06:13 pm
Autoprestige laid up this morning in the River Fal, she's berthed inside fleetmates Autoline and Autotransporter, just above the King Harry Ferry.

Krispen  :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Christian on April 02, 2009, 05:33:59 pm
Celje owned by Splosna Plovba was sold for scrap


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on April 04, 2009, 09:31:06 am
HI all

At the moment there is a fine accumulation of tankers at the Nab Anchorage, off the Isle of Wight.

It seems that a couple of crude oil tankers that have discharged at EMT Fawley in the past week are now laying up there -  these are Thornbury and Eagle Otome, presumably awaiting orders for their next fill  -  also there is Marida Magnolia a smaller chemical tanker which left EMT on 30th March which may simply be waiting for a return load and we have Seamullet which arrived on 31 March, but has not yet appeared on the Soton VTS list as being due at EMT.

Given that there are 12 numbered anchorages at the Nab, with 3 car carriers that are still there, we currently have 13 vessels at the Nab Anchorage.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on April 04, 2009, 10:15:27 am
Together with the report from the Nab Anchorage seems a steady accumulation of tankers on the south coast as Lyme Bay now has the oil tankers  FRONT SCILLA IMO 9172856 , DONAX IMO 9215050 , DARAB IMO 9218492, ONDINA IMO 9248485,  KRONVIKEN IMO 9321677, SEAHERITAGE IMO 9299599 , TORM HELENE  IMO 9143532,  MORNING EXPRESS IMO 9208095, and the OBO ALKMAN IMO 8106771 but it is unclear without a visual report which are laden and being used for storage or which are unladen and so idle.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ulrik Gamskjær on April 04, 2009, 04:06:03 pm
I have just been in Emden in Germany and can to this category give the notice that to KEES ships are laid up were ..The ships are Wesser Express and not sure of the name of other the ships .....

Best Regards
Ulrik


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on April 04, 2009, 04:37:06 pm
It looks as if the other one is Ems Highway
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on April 04, 2009, 08:47:42 pm
Hi All,

Can someone tell what happend to the Maersk Beaumont ??
She was scheduled for Bremerhaven On the Maersksite there no schedule for the Maersk Beaumont
Is she laid up ??
Regards  SDave


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on April 04, 2009, 09:02:29 pm
Hi Dave,

AIS shows her last position as
 
Latitude      N 53°54.410'     
Longitude    E 7°47.673'

Last seen at   4/4/2009 18:17:55 UTC

destination as Bremerhaven Anchorage

rgds
Andrew


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Manuel Hernández Lafuente on April 05, 2009, 09:50:15 am
At Valencia anchorage:
Annabelle Schulte (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=869502)
Antonia Schulte (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=868993)
Navis Mini I (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=868545)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on April 05, 2009, 05:12:46 pm
Thanks Andrew,

So he's Laid up to bad for a nice ship

Regards

Dave


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on April 06, 2009, 12:04:33 pm
I will be in the Lyme Bay area over the Easter weekend and, weather permitting, will provide a visual update.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on April 06, 2009, 04:18:53 pm
Good luck Phil!
I was there yesterday and the haze just made it horrible.
The vessels are all lying between 2 and 5 miles off the coast, between Teignmouth and Torquay.
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on April 07, 2009, 08:13:17 am
Thanks Kelvin. I'm not holding my breath regarding the weather. What's more, the vessels are anchored much further West than I was anticipating. I am going to be in the Seaton area and wasn't planning on doing much driving whilst there  :-(

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on April 08, 2009, 04:23:24 pm
Of the 10 oil tankers anchored just outside Tor Bay only one is in ballast, the other 9 are all fully loaded. The Morning Express has been here the longest, arriving from Singapore on the 27th January with 90,000 tonnes of Aviation Jet Fuel; she has been here ever since apart from a trip to Falmouth for bunkers a couple of weeks ago. The two latest arrivals were the Seaheritage and Kronviken which both loaded at the Phillips Jetties in Teesport (North Sea Crude?) before proceeding to Falmouth for bunkers, finally arriving in Lyme Bay late last Thursday night. The other 6 loaded tankers, which arrived at various times during February and March are the Darab, Donax, Torinia, Torm Helene, Front Scilla and the (OBO) Alkman. Some are storing Crude, and some Oil Products – from what I hear, probably Jet Fuel. The one empty ship is the Shell tanker Ondina: she was anchored off Torquay, fully loaded, for most of March before leaving on the 28th to discharge her cargo in Rotterdam. On leaving there last week, she was giving her next port as Arzew in Algeria with an ETA of the 7th May. The destination changed to Lyme Bay when she was half way down the English Channel and she anchored off Torquay in the early hours of last Friday. The best place to see these ships is from Marine Drive in Torquay - this is the road that passes above Hope’s Nose, the point at the northern end of Tor Bay about 3 miles north of Berry Head. The Ondina is anchored relatively close to the shore and, being in ballast, makes an impressive sight – especially when the weather is nice, which it is now and again!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on April 08, 2009, 05:29:50 pm
It's all busy at the moment.
BRIGHT (ex Pietari Bright) left the River Fal this afternoon - on what appears to be her final voyage to the Indian beaches. When I saw her last week, she'd been reflagged in St. Kitts & Nevis for the voyage. Presume the GLORY (ex Pietari Glory) will also be away in the coming days.

Krispen  8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on April 08, 2009, 08:11:39 pm
Crane barge OCEANTEAM INSTALLER and tug BALOE arrived at anchorage in River Blackwater in Essex for lay-by yesterday and was the first vessel to enter the anchorage for lay-by since the Radio Caroline ship ROSS REVENGE departed in August 1995. This hopefully sets a precedent for further use of the anchorage which was previously used for lay-by and lay-up  of ships up to about 200 metres ( See http://www.merseamuseum.org.uk/mmshipping.php )


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on April 08, 2009, 08:25:58 pm
The tankers have even made the BBC news now.
They had a mention on Radio 4 this afternoon and there is also this piece on the web site:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7989760.stm
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 09, 2009, 10:10:21 pm
Also was on BBC & ITV local news this evening with reporter on Brixham Pilot Cutter doing the report..some real good shots..but sadly not in a position to record.         There is also a story in the local rag (Herald Express..can be viewed on ....this is south devon.co.uk )  this evening.         There is some local concern as to why there is no 'ETV' Stationed in Torbay in case of Anchor drag in an easterly gale....my concern would be anchor chain fatigue in the view of such a long anchorage period..(Witherbys Anchors & Anchorwork Publication makes interesting reading!!)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on April 10, 2009, 04:28:06 pm
And then there were 9 - after a one week stay, the Ondina sailed for Arzew this morning.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 10, 2009, 07:29:14 pm
Yes saw the Ondina sail.
The 'Dareb' also heaved anchor late last nite and 'made way' for an hour or so to make a lee for the pilot boats to make a crew change. Back at anchor again now.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on April 11, 2009, 08:02:33 am
Container ship MAERSK BENTONVILLE IMO 9313929 lOA 294 m  reported arriving at Tongue Anchorage (outer Thames) and idle there since 20/03/09 departed 08/04/09 heading north but later returned 09/04/09 and is now again at anchor at the Tongue Anchorage. Any ideas on the reason ? Bunkering somewhere?  Is it deemed "moored" and fees charged if they dont move ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on April 11, 2009, 11:20:59 am
I presume the MAERSK BENTONVILLE just did a little run to check everything was working okay, suspect so she is all prepared for when she gets the call for a cargo. I don't think she actually stopped off Southwold, rather just turned and returned to the Outer Tongue.

Krispen 8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on April 12, 2009, 11:58:00 am
GLORY (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=874801) (exPIETARI GLORY (http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=802207)) is scheduled to leave the River Fal on Tuesday morning. She is destined for Indian breakers, and will follow Bright (ex Pietari Bright) which went last week.

Krispen :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: SD7 on April 13, 2009, 08:55:24 am
Certainly some of the ships on FWE's list are laid up, but several appear to be awaiting orders, or are engaged in storage operations.

The inactivity surrounding the Coastal Bulk fleet can be explained by this article http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/coastal-bulk-ceases-trading/20017602607.htm

Although I have to query the description of 'bulk carrier' for them! For their size, that would embrace 99.9% of all coasters.

Steve.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 14, 2009, 09:16:41 am
The British registered Product Tanker 'SUNNIVA'  IMO 8914555 joined the 'Gang' at the Deep Water Anchorage in Lyme Bay ....arriving from Hamburg I believe at around 0100 this morning.

'MORNING EXPRESS' left the Lyme Bay Anchorage around 1530 today enroute to Southwold.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 14, 2009, 05:45:15 pm
Product Tanker 'SUNNIVA' Departed Lyme Bay Anchorage around 1800 this afternoon...AIS..giving destination as Panama.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 17, 2009, 11:52:12 am
Looks like another one of out regular Bulkers stopping by in Lyme Bay to await orders.....ALKAIOS  IMO 8106769 Arriving at 1500 from BUTZFLIEHTER on the Elbe.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 17, 2009, 08:57:32 pm
BW Nice and fleet-sister Hedda laid up at Langøytangen. For a shot of that über-spectacle:

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=879250

Hello from the semi laid-up man in black:

Tomas, onboard Bruse


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 18, 2009, 09:28:34 am
US BOX SHIP....'SEALAND PERFORMANCE' (SL PERFORMANCE) Dropped anchor at ther Deep Water Anchorage in Lyme Bay at 0700 this morning arriving from Rotterdam...not sure how long for...will take a look through my 'bins' when the vis gets better to see if she is loaded or not.

Now makes the number of vessels anchored back up to 10 (it had dropped to 8)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on April 18, 2009, 09:28:11 pm
Sea Land Performance has no containers on deck, so I guess she’s empty. The Maersk Sealand name, that is on the side of the ship in all the pictures of her that I have seen, has been painted out – at least on the port side. I don’t know if it’s been like that for a while or if it’s only just been done. When she left Rotterdam she was showing Loch Striven on the Firth of Clyde as her destination; this changed to Brixham when she was half way down the English Channel. Morning Express which left Lyme Bay for Southwold Anchorage last Tuesday is now due at Milford Haven at 2200 this coming Monday – she appeared to have just weighed anchor when I looked at the AIS earlier on this evening. Also currently at Southwold is the Shell tanker Oliva which was in Lyme Bay for a long time earlier this year. She left for Southwold last month and eventually discharged her cargo at Wilhelmshaven. She then loaded again at Hound Point and has been back at Southwold since the 31st March. The bulk carrier Atlantic Bridge (another former Lyme Bay resident) is currently in the Dover Straits giving Lyme Bay as her destination with an ETA of tomorrow at 1500. She loaded iron ore at Ponta da Madiera, Brazil and discharged it last week at Redcar and Immingham.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 18, 2009, 11:13:20 pm
VLCC 'DAREB' which has been anchored in Lyme Bay since April 1st 09 has heaved her anchor at around 2245 and embarked a Deep Sea Pilot at around 2330 today and has headed East..her AIS Transponder was still showing Lyme Bay as her destination at time of writing.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on April 19, 2009, 08:18:09 am
I think this thread will probably finish soon. The reason I say this is that every ship bar one has gone from MARGATE ROADS and that ship "Cumbrian Fisher" has been there less than 24 hours. Formerly there have been up to a dozen ships there lying at anchor for the last several months. When this happened I do not know as I've only this morning noticed this fact. Rgds jw.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on April 21, 2009, 10:58:06 pm
Lyme Bay Update   -  Front Scilla sailed for the Mississippi River yesterday afternoon. The Alkman sailed for Portland yesterday morning to take on bunkers but returned to Brixham late yesterday evening  and anchored in, more or less, the same place as before.
The Sea Land Performance is part of the U.S. Government’s Military Support Program (as is the Maersk Alabama of Somalia Pirate fame) and she is one of nine container ships being replaced by newer tonnage. This is probably why the Maersk Sealand name on her hull has been painted out. She will also be re-flagged out of the U.S. fleet shortly.

http://marinelink.com/en-US/News/Article/Maersk-Lines-Replacing-Nine-MSP-Vessels/330201.aspx

The 9 ships still in Lyme Bay are the Sea Land Performance, Atlantic Bridge, Alkman, Alkaios, Torm Helene, Torinia, Donax, Seaheritage and Kronviken


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 23, 2009, 08:23:26 pm
'ATLANTIC BRIDGE' has departed the Lyme Bay Deep Sea Anchorage at 2100 for Port Cartier Canada.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on April 24, 2009, 09:03:01 am
A little activity in Torbay/Lyme Bay over the last 24 hours.
The United States Military Command Ro Ro/Container Ship
'USNS 2nd LT JOHN.P.BOBO' arrived and anchored for which I presume is a recreational stay of some period as Several Garbage skips were taken out to her this morning by Pilot Launch. (These ships of the MPS SQUADRON ONE Call from time to time for this purpose)

NYK SIRIUS Arrived empty of boxes yesterday from Southampton and anchored in the 'Box' for which I presume will be a lengthy stay.

Box vessel  'SEALAND PERFORMANCE' Has left the  Deep Water Anchorage this morning, boarded the local Pilot and now looks as though she will be re anchoring within the Torbay Inner Anchorage at Alpha or Bravo....so good opportunities for any photographers.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mats on April 24, 2009, 08:37:21 pm
The car carriers "Dyvi Adriatic" and "Dyvi Baltic" have been laid up in Karmsund, near Stavanger in Norway. They are apparently on 5-year time charters to Mitsui OSK.

According to the article, they are scheduled to stay idle for at least 6 months.

Video here: http://www.haugesunds-avis.no/article/20090415/NYHETER/6299525/-1/RSS

Pictures of the many vessels already laid up along the Norwegian coast (Dyvi, Wilhelmsen and many more) can be found in this thread on a Norwegian web forum: http://www.skipsfarts-forum.net/read.php?TID=7505&page=1


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on May 02, 2009, 08:45:44 pm
Maersk Beaumont arrived on the Clyde today, prior to moving up to Loch Striven. It is rumoured she is the first of many from Maersk to lay-up there.

One of her sisters is still sat off Margate in the Thames Estuary. Maersk Bentonville has been there since the start of April.

Krispen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on May 03, 2009, 04:31:19 pm
SEALAND PERFORMANCE  - currently anchored in Tor Bay - was giving Loch Striven as her destination when she left Rotterdam a couple of weeks ago so I guess she could be heading up there as well at some point.
The other container ship anchored in Tor Bay - NYK SIRIUS - appears to be sitting out one return trip from Europe to Taiwan. According to NYK’s web site she is due to berth at Le Havre on the 10th June. It will be interesting to see if she remains in Tor Bay until then.

http://www2.nykline.com/vesselsearch/displaySchedule.nyk?vesselName=NYK+SIRIUS

There are only 3 loaded tankers left in Lyme Bay – KRONVIKEN, DONAX and ALKMAN. There have been 4 departures in the past week: Seaheritage left on Saturday 25th April for Le Havre; eventually berthed there yesterday and sailed this morning for Teesport. The TORM HELENE left on Tuesday 28th April for Rotterdam; berthed there last Friday and sailed yesterday for Southwold Anchorage. The Alkaios sailed on Wednesday 29th April for Kamsar which is in Guinea, West Africa. The final departure was the Shell tanker Torinia: she sailed on Friday night but appeared to re-anchor about 15 miles east of Start Point. This seems a decidedly strange place to anchor – does anyone know why?

One other departure to note – the Shell tanker Oliva left Southwold Anchorage last Friday, after a month long stay, for Galveston, Texas.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on May 03, 2009, 07:41:45 pm
Here is a view of the other side of the story; Empty Dock Syndrome!
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=891337
2nd May 2009


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on May 03, 2009, 07:46:40 pm
SEALAND PERFORMANCE...........The Skipper of The 'Liberty Lass' currently employed as Liberty vessel for the crew of The 'BO BO' Imformed me on Thursday of last that the Sealand Performance was anchored in Torbay for 6 weeks...but as we all know in the shipping world things change like the weather.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on May 08, 2009, 06:21:29 am
Here is an interesting item on ships laid up in the River Fal:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8038471.stm
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on May 10, 2009, 08:11:09 am
SEALAND PERFORMANCE is due at Falmouth from Tor Bay tomorrow morning and will be leaving there for Scotland tomorrow evening – presumably to lay up in Loch Striven. One new arrival last week – the tanker PANAGIA LADY arrived in ballast from Algeciras. On leaving Gibraltar, after bunkering, she was showing Rotterdam as her next port, but has been in Lyme Bay since Wednesday evening. Keeping her company in Lyme Bay are KRONVIKEN, DONAX and ALKMAN while NYK SIRIUS is still in Tor Bay. The TORINIA moved back to her original Lyme Bay anchorage mid week, but has since returned to her weird anchored position east of Start Point.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on May 13, 2009, 10:53:06 pm
Two departures from Lyme Bay on Monday: PANAGIA LADY for Brofjorden and DONAX for Le Havre. KRONVIKEN will also be off shortly as she is due at Le Havre on Sunday morning. SEALAND PERFORMANCE sailed for Loch Striven on Tuesday morning.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Chandler on May 14, 2009, 12:06:27 pm
SEALAND PERFORMANCE now on the Clyde with MAERSK BEAUMONT.

AS SCOTIA ex TURIN EXPRESS laid up adjacent to the lock gates in Leith, due to be joined by sister AS ASTURIA.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on May 15, 2009, 12:45:30 pm
Info and picture of SEALAND PERFORMANCE and MAERSK BEAUMONT

http://clydesights.com/


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on May 19, 2009, 06:11:39 pm
It looks like another C.-P. Offen containership is due to lay up in the River Fal tomorrow. SAN FRANCISCO is due at 13.00 according to the Falmouth Port website and, as I'm staying in Falmouth this week, I'm hoping to be in prime position.
Two containerships that have been lying idle in the bay for the past couple of weeks are due to sail away tomorrow. FRITZ REUTER and E.R. COPENHAGEN are expected to sail for "sea", whilst long-term anchorage resident METHANIA does not appear to be going anywhere soon.

Cheers
Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on May 19, 2009, 09:23:07 pm
Falmouth website has a habit of giving a leaving time, even if they ain't going, so wouldn't expect the two containerships to disappear anytime soon.

San Francisco has just completed a charter with Zim, and has discharged in Amsterdam before coming to Falmouth - Can't wait to see your pictures!! I'll be running down in a few weeks to get her.

With San Francisco there, that'll make four Claus-Peter Offen container vessels there! (Santa Giovanna, Guiliana and Guilietta the others already there) - I'd never would have imagined that.

Hope the weather's better for you tomorrow in Falmouth!

Krispen :lol:


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on May 20, 2009, 03:55:09 pm
You were right Krispen, FRITZ REUTER and E.R. COPENHAGEN haven't gone anywhere and still awating orders in Falmouth Bay. Spent a couple of hours at Smuggler's Cottage, Tolverne, wiating for SAN FRANCISCO to arrive at the Fal layup moorings, but she still hadn't arrived by 2.30 pm and assumed she was delayed. Had other things to do, so left, but got back to the apartment in Falmouth to discover on AIS that she was up there. We must have missed her by minutes  :-x  Typical. Still, got photos of the other ships which I will post up in due course.

Cheers
Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on May 20, 2009, 04:03:51 pm
Sorry you missed her Phil. She went up very slowly!!

I've heard there will be another containership in the bay by the weekend.

Up North, Maersk Bentonville is on her way heading towards her from Rotterdam to sister Maersk Beaumont and fleetmate SeaLand Performance in the Clyde, for eventual lay-up in Loch Striven.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on June 02, 2009, 09:44:55 pm
Another empty NYK Line container ship dropped anchor just outside Tor Bay last night - the NYK OLYMPUS arrived from Southampton at 2100. It looks as though she could be here for about 3 weeks – she is due back in Southampton to load on the 24th June. The NYK SIRIUS, which has been anchored in Tor Bay since the 23rd April, is due to load in Le Havre on the 10th June.

Two other ships are in Lyme Bay – the fully loaded ore/bulk/ore carrier ALKMAN  has now been here for exactly 3 months, and the small gas tanker MALVERN has been anchored off Teignmouth since the 21st May.

The TORINIA, which has been anchored in an extremely odd position east of Start Point for several weeks, finally left the area last night and appears to be bound for Southwold to join the bevy of tankers anchored off the Suffolk coast.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: alanp on June 03, 2009, 07:03:32 am
NYK Sirius has missed one rotation of the Grand Alliance EU2 service. She is due to call at Southampton on 17/06/09 on her outbound voyage.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on June 04, 2009, 04:08:16 pm
Currently Orient Overseas Container Line’s 8,063 teu OOCL Shenzhen is the largest containership currently out of action because of the industry slump, she is at anchor off Majishan in China where and has been since February and will return to service in July, when it joins a transpacific loop
In addition to the OOCL Shenzhen , other big boxships currently unemployed include the 7,943 teu Bunga Seroja Dua and sister vessel Bunga Seroja Satu ther are around 35 vessels in excess of 5,000 teu identified as inactive.

Demolition activity is picking up as a result of the worst market conditions ever, with Alphaliner reporting that even some quite big ships are now being sent to the breakers, notably the 16-year-old, 4,180 teu MOL Ingenuity.
The Japanese line is also scrapping the 1990-built, 3,733 teu MOL Thames and 21-year-old, 3,613 teu MOL Initiative (ex Elbe), while the vintage 3,951 teu Tampa , built in 1984, and the 1981-built, 3,430 teu MSC Athina (ex Frankfurt Express)are also heading for the beaches.


Some lines have managed to avoid idling any ships at all, with CMA CGM and Hapag-Lloyd two top 10 lines that have not anchored vessels. Mediterranean Shipping Co and Evergreen have just 1% of their fleet idle. APL, in contrast, has 19% unemployed, with its alliance partner MOL having 17% in some form of lay-up.

Regards
Andrew
Containership Admin

(Sources Alphaliner & Clarksons & Various)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Cornelia Klier on June 05, 2009, 07:45:22 pm
Hamburg 30.05.09
















 Santa Adriana, Santa Georgina, Santa Alina (Kiel)

SORRY That message has for some unknown reason modified itself into a mess, when I clicked "submit". It was still o. k. when I did preview it !!!

Please simply click on the links and you will see the images.

Stupid computers..
 :-x


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on June 05, 2009, 08:46:21 pm
Thanks for the links Cornelia  :-)
Your message is understood, don't worry about the mess.

Cheers
Pil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on June 10, 2009, 11:30:25 pm
NYK SIRIUS left Tor Bay at 1700 on Tuesday after a 7 week stay. She was alongside in Le Havre for less than 7 hours and left there Wednesday evening for Antwerp. This leaves just the ALKMAN and NYK Olympus in Lyme Bay.

Does anyone know what the TORINIA is up to?  Having been at Southwold Anchorage for barely 36 hours last week, she sailed again giving North America as her destination. The next day she anchored again in her favourite position east of Start Point and she remained there until this morning (Wed 10th June) when she came back up to Brixham and anchored near the ALKMAN. This evening she sailed for Falmouth, presumably for bunkers, although her AIS was still showing North America as her destination. The Falmouth Port web site is giving Lyme Bay as her destination when she leaves there on Thursday evening – all very confusing!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Steffen on June 14, 2009, 08:44:05 pm
idle container or similar vessels seen in May & June  2009

Hamburg 19/5/2009:
- HANSA MAGDEBURG (empty)
- HANSA MARBURG (empty)
- CAP ORTEGAL (empty)
- TORONTO EXPRESS idle ? (with containers)
- BELUGA STIMULATION idle ? (with containers)
- ECL CHALLENGER (empty)
- ICE BIRD (empty)
- CAP BIZERTA (empty but lying at Burchardkai)
- MELBOURNE STRAIT load containers that day – reported laid up several weeks before)

Hamburg 24/5/2009:
- HANSA MAGDEBURG (empty)
- HANSA MARBURG (empty)
- CAP BIZERTA (empty – obviously moved from Burchardkai)
- CAP ORTEGAL left its position and was “replaced” by CAP BIZERTA

Falmouth 28/5/2009:
- E.R. ELSFLETH (empty)
- E.R. COPENHAGEN (empty)

Clyde / Loch Striven near Greenock 1/6/2009:
- MAERSK BEAUMONT (empty)
- MAERSK BENTONVILLE (empty)
- SEA-LAND PERFORMANCE (empty)

Invergordon 5/6/2009:
- CIMBRIA (empty) arrived 1/6/2009

Hamburg 7/6/2009:
- WMS GRONINGEN (empty)
- MAERSK FREEPORT (empty)
- HANSA MAGDEBURG (empty)
- HANSA MARBURG (empty)
- SANTA MONICA (empty)
- CAP BIZERTA left its position and was “replaced” by SANTA MONICA

do not know if all the vessels mentioned above have been laid up for real (especially those with containers on deck) but all have been not involved to any cargo operation nor have been berthed at working cargo facilities

regards
Steffen


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Nacressa Swa on June 16, 2009, 01:11:29 pm
Hi I'm new to the site and was really interested in this post because I am looking to do some filming aboard a laid up ship.  Might any of you be able to help with contacts with the shipping industry or any of the ships that you mention?  I have been contacting shipping companies directly, but because they are massive multi-billion companies, they're not particularly interested in helping with something small scale!

The filming would be for a documentary for TLC Discovery and we would want to film some drama reconstruction of how the crew of a container ship managed to prevent pirates talking control of their ship.  

Seperately, we'd also like to film aboard a container ship on a journey within Europe.

Any thoughts, suggestions of laid up ships and contacts much appreciated.

Thanks so much

Kress100



Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: adams on June 19, 2009, 01:45:36 pm
Kress,

Rather than going to shipping companies, you should try to contact owners or managing companies. As you may be aware most major shipping companies do not own vessels - they are chartering from other companies. Does not make sense but that is the way it works


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Phil English on June 19, 2009, 02:37:15 pm
Kress100,

I suggest first contacting a port authority where ships are laid up. For instance, Falmouth has at least 4 containerships laid up at the moment. You should be able to find a contact point on the Falmouth Port website. You would almost certainly need permission from the ships owner to film on their property, but I reckon that the Port Authority is a good starting point to get the ball rolling.

Phil


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mike on June 21, 2009, 06:03:54 am
Maersk Baltimore arriving Firth of Clyde late tomorrow (22/06)
All 4 vessels moving up to final location late same week (Balti ,Benton, Beau and Performance)

Might be some interesting photo ops


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on June 21, 2009, 08:18:49 am
AIS is showing Maersk Baltimore ETA Loch Striven 08:00 23 June.
At this time (09:10 Sunday) she is south of Berry Head making a gentle 13 knots.
The others are showing various ETA, the latest of which is the Beaumont 25 Jun 10:00
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mike on June 21, 2009, 05:27:30 pm
yes eta just updated....

But trust me on the final move date(s), will pop in and confirm timings when I have them  8-)

However will get our AIS updated tonight  :-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on June 30, 2009, 06:17:42 pm
According to AIS all four together now.

The E.R. Elsfleth has sailed for Maersk again, waiting E.R. Wilhelmshaven at Weser (Bremerhaven) anchorage will join Maersk's Scanmed service this week, replacing the E.R. Elsfleth. Maersk Newark redelivered to E.R. and as far as I know outside Falmouth now.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Pekka Laakso on June 30, 2009, 08:58:56 pm
Few days ago another two Wallenius Wilhelmsen car carriers went to Lyngdal, Norway for a lay-up: MADAME BUTTERFLY and CARMEN.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ian Thomas on June 30, 2009, 09:09:34 pm
Four James Fisher Everard Tankers laid-up at Vittoria Dock, Liverpool namely the ASPERITY, SARNIA LIBERTY, SENIORITY and SUPERIORITY.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on July 02, 2009, 03:25:11 pm
It becomes busy in Loch Striven, the MAERSK BOSTON will join her sisters BEAUMONT, BENTONVILLE, BALTIMORE and the American SL PERFORMANCE later this month....


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Allan RO on July 04, 2009, 12:47:12 pm
Hi All

perhaps some good news.......

Caribbean Highway re-entered the land of the living 1 July, bound for Zeebrugge from Nab Anchorage where she has been since 25 March....

Southern Highway left Nab Anchorage 3 July bound for Gibraltar, laid up since 08 May.

Sierra Nevada Highway, Andes Highway and Lapis Arrow still at Nab area.

Allan


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kelvin Davies on July 04, 2009, 08:18:36 pm
I bet the first 2 have moved just to make space for another couple.
It was becoming the K Line anchorage.
Oh, and don't forget the poor Tagus, still blocking the river on the Afterbarn Buoy.
And the Tokyo Car & Triumph which seem to have grafted themselves on to the cruise terminal!
Kelvin


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on July 05, 2009, 08:50:22 am
I saw the two car carriers (Tokyo Car and Triumph) side by side yesterday. Will upload a pic soon. Have they been laid up long?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ferry-Man on July 05, 2009, 09:44:46 am
Picture uploaded:

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=936849


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Weserphoto on July 05, 2009, 10:43:17 am
Newbuilding K-STORM (IMO 9389435) was laid up in Bremen

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=869909

from delivery by Hegemann Rolandwerft in November 2008 until June 23, 2009, when she left Bremen for Antwerp.

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=937009
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=936991

Meanwhile, she has just completed a round trip to Ireland.

Regards,
Helmut


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: GEOFF HOATHER on July 05, 2009, 10:38:03 pm
Containership SAN FRANCISCO left lay up in River Fal, pm on 3 July. Circled in Falmouth Bay a while, then departed (pics on website). Containerships E.R ELSFLETH and MAERSK NEWARK awaiting orders in Falmouth Bay on same day (pics soon).  Geoff Hoather 8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: GEOFF HOATHER on July 13, 2009, 02:30:38 pm
Falmouth Bay update,12.07.09. Maersk Newark has just reverted to her original name of E.R. CUXHAVEN whilst awaiting orders. E.R. STRALSUND now also there having recently been renamed from Maersk Napier, making three from E R Schiffahrt - E.R. Elsfleth being the other one. Crude oil tanker NORDIC GRACE also awaiting orders - another recent renaming from Seagrace (still had Thenamaris' colours). Photos on website. Geoff Hoather 8-)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Malte Classens on July 13, 2009, 04:25:17 pm
Reederei Karl Schlüter from Rendsburg/Germany today laid up two of their container feeder vessels in Lübeck:
HENNY (IMO 9143403) and HEIKE (IMO 9173446)
pictures:
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=943090
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=943092
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=943095


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Matt Ruscher on July 28, 2009, 03:47:56 am
The only vessel I have seen sit idle for an extensive time 'awaiting orders' has been the Torm Nakskov 9387956    she has been sitting off just South of Long Island New York for going on 2 months.


Title: Laid Up Ships Falmouth and Torbay
Post by: Mike on August 08, 2009, 10:20:46 am
Torbay update 8/8
Present
PETALI LADY . ALKMAN . HORIZON DINITRA . PHOENIX HOPE . TORM INGEBORG . ELKE APOLLON . SKS SEGURA . DONAX .
Movements
KRONVIKEN (Tanker 244m 14.7m draft) Arr from Falmouth 7/8
SOLVIKEN (Tanker 244m x 13.5m draft) Arr from Falmouth 7/8
ENERGY CENTAUR (Tanker 228m x 14.3m) Sailed to Southwold anchorage 6/8

Falmouth update 8/8
Present
ER ELSFLETH . ER CUXHAVEN . ER STRALSUND . COMMANDER . LAPIS ARROW . SANTA GIULIETTA . SANTA GIULIANA
Movements
ALKIVIADIS (Tanker 184m x 7.6m draft) sailed 6 or 7/8 to Gibraltar
KRONVIKEN (Tanker 244m 14.7m draft) sailed to Torbay 7/8
SOLVIKEN (Tanker 244m x 13.5m draft) sailed to Torbay 7/8
METHANIA (Tanker 280m x 10.2m draft) sailed to SW 7/8

Mike


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships Falmouth and Torbay
Post by: Mike on August 11, 2009, 07:02:33 am
The 112,500 AP Moller tanker DONAX has just repositioned from Torbay to Southwold arriving 1000/10th where she had been since 31/7

The METHANIA has returned to Falmouth Bay arriving 10/1000 after departing there on 7/8 to the SW

Mike


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Cliff Yates on August 12, 2009, 09:49:51 am
Four ships laid up in Kiel, all from one company I believe, they are the Santa Arabella, Santa Giorgina, Santa Alina and Santa Adriana. They have been tied up for over eight weeks.

Cliff


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Henry Pattison on August 26, 2009, 02:08:13 pm
Looks like the river Blyth is going to get two more.  Just pop'd up on the local list today (26/8/09) Cape Henry: eta 2pm fri 28/8/09, last port Falmouth down till 2010. Blue Ocean: eta 2pm fri 4/9/09, last port Cadiz this is down till 2010 also. First time post so i hope i'am doing this right. PS. Cala Ponente is still here.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: mike on August 26, 2009, 04:28:15 pm
This may sound a stupid question but i always wondered do they keep the full crews on board these lay up vessels. Plus what do they do with all the spare time while on board.
In Southampton where i live there is about 5 ships laid up. 4 car carrier and a gas ship margerat hill although she had been sold for scrap but detained by the enviorment group.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: polsteam on August 27, 2009, 05:52:11 am
basically two types of lay-up are used:
- cold lay-up for longer periods
- stand by lay-up for shorter periods

even in stand-by lay-up the crew is sometimes reduced to various extend - sometimes significantly (but with possibility to call the crew relatively quickly to board the vessel)
in cold lay-up probably security and / or fire guards are only left onboard
however in cold lay-up ships are often being repaired by mobile gangs of fitters, welders, mechanics, electricians, etc. or by crew members, so - in such cases - the number of manpower onboard will not be significantly or will not be reduced at all... however it will be mostly not the crew, but fitters...

example of cold lay-up case:
http://www.vinamaso.net/news-events/shipping-logistics/mol-idles-5500-teu-ships-cold-lay-up.html


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Fotojoe on September 30, 2009, 07:37:53 am
Tramp owners share of the worlds idle boxships has further increased
in the last weeks of September, as lines reduce capacity and hand back
chartered vessels to their owners, according to the latest Alphaliner
figures.

This is the first time since records began in October 2008 that tramp
owners have a larger share of the total idle fleet than carriers.

The number of idle ships belonging to non-operating owners now stands
at 379 ships with a combined capacity of 654,000 teu, the highest
level recorded to date, Alphaliner said. The number of
carrier-controlled idle vessels stands at 169 with a total capacity of
643,000 teu. Carriers have redelivered a high number of smaller ships,
which are expected to have difficulty finding new employment.

The total number of idle ships reached 548 units, or 1.3m teu,
representing 10% of the total world container fleet capacity,
Alphaliner said.

Source: Lloyd's List


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on October 01, 2009, 05:56:45 pm
The Maersk Baltimore, Maersk Bentonville, Maersk Beaumont, Sea-Land Performance will get accompany by one of her sisters somewhere at the end of this month, it will be the Maersk Brooklyn. She will call Bremerhaven, Rotterdam and Felixstowe prior being laid up in Loch Striven, Scotland. (All as a so-called Cold Lay-up)

This B-class was laid up in Asia, but used as one of the backup vessels for the cargo from the grounded Maersk Kendal 19/Sep at Singapore.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: OPL on October 03, 2009, 09:50:45 pm
LYME BAY UPDATE  -  Two oil tankers sailed from here last night: CHAMPION PEACE left the outer anchorage bound for Southwold, while the HORIZON DIMITRA left the inner anchorage bound for Le Havre. Two more ships arrived this morning at about 0800  the North Sea shuttle tanker ABERDEEN arriving in ballast from Hamburg, closely followed by the empty container ship GULF BRIDGE from Rotterdam. The full line up of ships is as follows: Inner Anchorage – TRISTAR KUWAIT, ALKMAN, SKS SEGURA, ELKA APOLLON, PHOENIX HOPE, PETALI LADY, TORM INGEBORG, ABERDEEN and GULF BRIDGE. Outer Anchorage: OCANA and ONOBA.
The Tristar Kuwait, SKS Segura and the Petali Lady have all been to Portland Port in the last couple of weeks for bunkers, while the Alkman has made two such visits in what is now a 7 month stay in Lyme Bay. The anchored Phoenix Hope was recently in collision with a local fishing boat but, fortunately, didn’t sustain any damage. The skipper of the fishing boat has yet to explain how he failed to see the tanker in broad daylight and good visibility!
If you want to see where these ships are anchored relevant to each other, click on the link below and type any of the ship names into the search box.

http://aprs.fi/info/


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Lysfoss on October 04, 2009, 02:48:39 pm
With so many ships laid up why are there so many ships being built at the same time?? if there is no work?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on October 04, 2009, 03:03:33 pm
Those new ships which are now ready to be delivered, where ordered a couple of years ago when the economy was still booming....


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Lysfoss on October 04, 2009, 03:25:08 pm
I kinda thought that but it just seems to be ongoing! if there is no trade for these vessels they will hardly be broken up wil they? Its just ships ships and more ships everywere


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on October 04, 2009, 03:29:49 pm
It's just a case of 'supply and demand'. As the economy is dynamic, you might see a shortage of ships (capacity) and huge 'supply' of cargo if the economy is booming again. It's hard to find the correct balance.

Companies with a huge fleet are able to make money if there is plenty of cargo, smaller companies will suffer due to lack of capacity. In a crisis like this, companies with a huge fleet will suffer as they have not sufficient cargo to fill their fleet. (or against reasonable rates)


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Lysfoss on October 04, 2009, 03:46:39 pm
So its like taking a chance and hoping for the best! Lets hope the econemy picks up so we can get some great pictures of these vessels at work!! I think it will take a while!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: brimar on October 05, 2009, 05:07:52 pm
Government Officers board Laid up tankers in Lyme Bay during a 'Duty Free' swoop.....'Bonded Stores' Sealed!!....Full Story and picture :-
                                          www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on October 05, 2009, 05:54:10 pm
What an extrordinary story, you would have thought that Her Majesty's Border Agency (sorry Browns Bully Boys) would have much better things to do, one wonders what they are trying to prove !!! There is one of their cutters that is about the southern north sea, dover strait area that has CUSTOMS painted on the side but they are plainly too busy to repaint it because it has what appears to be a sheet hangng over each side with the words BORDER AGENCY painted on it. How naff is that !! Providing the seamen on these, mostly, tankers, are not trying to make a "quick buck" in one way or another leave them alone. Whilst they are in Lyme Bay and also the many others off of Lowestoft they are undoubtedly helping the economies of these places..


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Robert J Smith on October 05, 2009, 06:31:31 pm
Quote "
There is one of their cutters that is about the southern north sea, dover strait area that has CUSTOMS painted on the side but they are plainly too busy to repaint it because it has what appears to be a sheet hangng over each side with the words BORDER AGENCY painted on it. How naff is that !! "

As seen here

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=986207

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: henrycourt on October 05, 2009, 06:37:24 pm
Bob, Many thanks for the superb picture.  I made one error in my piece, I should have said "Two" sheets sewn together !!!


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Ian G Hardie on October 05, 2009, 10:12:28 pm
Their was a similar incident shown on one of the Sea Patrol UK were they boarded a tanker that had been idle off the Kent coast for some time issued the captain an on the spot fine of a few thousand pounds for selling the crew duty free cigarettes whilst in territorial waters and confiscated the rest worth several thousand pounds all this without a judge or jury. easy way to swell the govemet's coffers easier then catching drug smugglers


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: mike bennetts on October 11, 2009, 07:20:55 pm
In the small port of Harlingen  north Holland   there has been 4/5 container feeder ships laid  up  most  of 2008 en all 2009 Doerte imo 9100061,Elisabith imo9083897,Gudrun imo9109079, Beautrition imo 9428669 a new ship she has just left bound Antwerpen her first  trip after  6 months laid up   her place  has now been taken  with  the Berta imo 9184225 . New ships  come  here from the inland shipyards  for there seatrails it was  so onetime  after the seatrails  the  left  same day  now they wait  sometimes a month  or months  new ships times are getting hard . mike  benbow


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on October 24, 2009, 02:44:57 pm
MAERSK BROOKLYN is underway to Loch Striven, Scotland to join her sisters. This will be a cold lay-up.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Henry Pattison on February 08, 2010, 07:58:52 pm
Cape Henry imo9004217 & Cape Horn I imo9004229 leaving port of Blyth tonight in hours of darkness after 8/9/ months. No next port for Cape Henry.  Cape Horn I down for Tuzla.  Correction to this post. Cape Horn I now down to leave 9/2/2010 in the evening.  Cape Henry now gone.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on May 28, 2010, 04:44:21 pm
Loch Striven:

SL Performance already removed from the 'raft' and performing under water hull cleaning near Greenock, Scotland at the moment. After completion around 6/Jun she'll proceed to Panama, Balboa to load empty containers for Shanghai, whereafter the vessel will be recycled.

All other Maersk B-types (Beaumont/Brooklyn/Bentonville/Boston/Baltimore) will be re-activated next month (June 2010) and proceed one by one to Northern or Southern America to bring empty containers back to Asia. Possible bunkering in Falmouth, UK or Le Havre, France before crossing the Atlantic.

Rgds
Michael (Maersk Line, European scheduling) :-D


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael van der Meer on June 17, 2010, 06:35:34 pm
Update:

SL Performance underway to Panama, before heading for Shanghai (discharge empty containers) whereafter she will be demolished.

Maersk Boston will depart from Greenock, Scotland 18/Jun evening towards Portland, UK for bunkers. Take bunkers on 20/Jun whereafter she will proceed to Suape & Santos, Brasil to load empty containers for Ningbo, China.

M.Boston still having the UK flag, but now Asian command.

Maersk Beaumont will depart from Greenock somewhere 21/6, calling Portland or Falmouth, UK for bunkers as well before heading for Newark, USA. Loading empty equipment for Asia. Transit Panama before heading for Ningbo, China.

M.Beaumont now flying the Danish flag with Danish command as well.

Maersk Baltimore be ready around 26/6. Most probably go to Le Havre for bunkers instead of Portland. Exact schedule unknown yet.

I'm working on above reactivations as well and update the Maersk website myself :D


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Michael Olsen on August 19, 2010, 03:39:34 pm
Any laid up coasters in the UK or Ireland these days ? Who can report about laid up coasters elsewhere ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: laurie on August 20, 2010, 03:10:49 pm
Not too sure whether they have been there long enough to be classified as laid up but Martin has been at Erith since 30 July. According to to PLA website Ardent has been there since 14 August but I can recall seeing it on AIS for a few days before it appeared on PLA site


Laurie


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Mat Kennedy on September 16, 2010, 08:08:15 pm
Looks like the cala positano on Teeside has a new owner as new emblem + painted funnel + cranes + radar working today.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Geir Vinnes on February 01, 2011, 01:55:10 am
LNG "Khannur" Imonr. 7382744 has left Norway with destination Singapore , Eta 13/03.
She arrived for lay up in August 2009.


Title: Re:Idle or Laid Up Ships UK E and S Coast
Post by: FWE on December 14, 2012, 02:44:57 pm
Looking again at the much earlier thread what appears idle or laid up around the east and south coasts of the UK the position now (13/12/12) has improved although Hull has many of the VW-Nyki ships as per a separate thread.

Blyth: 0 ships

Tyne: 0 ships

Wear: 5 ships
AMT Discoverer (pontoon) 91m arr 03/12/12,  Arco Beck (dredger) 99m arr 28/11/12, Arco Adur (dredger) 99 m arr 08/10/12, Clwyd Supporter (AHV) 82m arr 10/10/12,  Thames Fisher (products tanker) 92 m arr ??/11/12

Tees and Hartlepool  1 ship
Tuxedo Royale (ferry) 112 m arr 28/06/08 (since sunk at berth)

Humber: 8 ships
Maple (bulk carrier) 88m arr 23/03/12 , Ivy (bulk carrier) 88m arr 21/03/12 , Birch (bulk carrier)  79m arr 17/03/12 , Oak (bulk carrier) 88m arr 18/03/12, Salix (bulk carrier) 92m arr 29/03/12, Merle (bulk carrier) 88m arr 19/03/12, Charlie Rock (flat top barge) 86m arr 01/10/12, Klazina C (bulk carrier) 108 m arr 02/11/12

Yare: 0 ships

Southwold Roads: 3 ships
Eupen (LPG tanker) 180m arr 12/12/12, Chiltern (LPG tanker) 99m arr 05/12/12, C Whale (Oil tanker) 339 m arr 23/11/12

Orwell: 0 ships

Stour :0 ships

Blackwater: 0 ships

Thames: 7 ships
Stubnitz 80m (display venue)  arr 07/04/12, Emeraude France (fast ferry) 75m arr 06/09/07, Ocean Atlantic (passenger) 140 m arr 27/11/12, Sea Discoverer (accommodation ship) 100m arr 08/09/12, Pride of Calais (ro-pax ferry) 170m arr 23/10/12, Eglantine (ro-ro)147m arr 03/08/12, Stemat Spirit (cable layer) 90m arr 16/10/12


Medway:
??

Margate Roads:

Dover:

Newhaven:

Portsmouth:

Southampton Water:3 ships
Shieldhall (historic) 82m arr 16/09/12, Red Eagle (ro-pax ferry) 93m arr 19/11/12, Blade Runner 2 (barge) 75m arr 11/10/12

Poole Harbour:
Condor Vitesse (fast ferry)  86m arr 10/12/12

Portland Harbour and Weymouth Bay: 5 ships
Harbour: Stena Carrier (ro-pax ferry) 183m arr 06/09/12, Sarine (bulk carrier) 113m arr 08/11/12. Bay: Clipper Sky (oil tanker) 205m arr 10/12/12, Murray Star 128m (chem tanker) arr 11/12/12, Sophia Kosan (LPG tanker) 120m arr 07/12/12

Lyme and Tor Bays:

Falmouth Bay and Carrick Roads: 2 ships
Transhelf 173m (semi-submersible heavy lift) arr 26/11/12, Black Marlin (semi-submersible heavy lift) 218m arr 08/12/12

River Fal: 3 ships
Summer Bay (reefer) 169 m arr 23/06/12, Summer Flower (reefer) 169m arr 21/07/12, Norman Trader (ro-pax ferry)180m arr 02/07/11

I have cut offf at 75m loa and there may be some errors or gaps in this and also I have used the term idle rather than laid up eg may be anchored awaiting orders or awaiting berth


E&OE


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Patrick Hill on December 14, 2012, 02:51:33 pm
Also Christine C in Alexandra dock Hull, sister to Klazina C.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Captain Ted on December 14, 2012, 03:59:25 pm
patrick
who is the owner/operator/manager of those named last ?


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Patrick Hill on December 14, 2012, 04:29:07 pm
They were with Carisbrooke Shipping, however Klazina C has had their funnels markings painted out. We can't see the markings of Christina C so easily to tell if they have changed or not.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Captain Ted on December 14, 2012, 04:51:08 pm
thanks info,,patrick
I heard once this Carisbrooke is somehow connected to Rohden Bereederung in Hamburg
for them I worked two years on the Maersk Rio Haina / Maersk San Juan
the main reason for my initial question :-)

brgds
capt ted


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: ChasB46 on December 14, 2012, 05:08:50 pm
Carisbrooke Shipping are independent company based on Isle of Wight UK http://www.carisbrookeshipping.net/  Reference to Rohden Bereederung of Hamburg found on link within the website http://www.carisbrooke.de/.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Kees Kakebeeke on December 14, 2012, 06:11:29 pm
Also laid up in Rotterdam a ship from Carisbrooke

Heather C
Last week renamed in Heat
Sold to Stieglis Shipbrokers B.V.

Alongside of her is the Mirjam C
I think she will also sold in the next few days.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 14, 2012, 06:49:06 pm

Seems confirmed as of the four mentioned Klazina C, Cristine C, Mirjam C and Heather C only the Mirjam C is now on current fleet list on http://www.carisbrookeshipping.net/fleet.aspx


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on December 14, 2012, 11:48:29 pm
Also now jined them at Hull the Karla C arr 13/12 and Nicole C arr 14/12 possibly in trade



Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: Patrick Hill on December 15, 2012, 02:08:10 am
Also now jined them at Hull the Karla C arr 13/12 and Nicole C arr 14/12 possibly in trade



Yes they are working, Carisbrooke's smaller vessels have been regulars to Hull in recent months, I believe with grain or animal feed cargoes.

Christina C now renamed TIN.


Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: FWE on January 14, 2013, 05:37:27 pm
The UK Admiralty Marshall is selling Kalzina C and Tin ex Christine C with tenders closing today.

The ships are owned by individual companies and this siuation does not relate to Carisbrooke itself



Title: Re: Laid Up Ships
Post by: davidships on January 14, 2013, 10:52:29 pm
Looks like failure of operator/manager Stieglis Shipbrokers BV, Harlingen, as the other two sisters - HEAT ex-HEATHER C and IRJ ex-MIRJAN C - are apparently laid up in Rotterdam.  Stieglis Shipbrokers was being sold last year by parent Stieglis Beheer BV, which had gone into bankruptcy.  But have not seen anything of new owners.