Post by: Mike on July 23, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
Tyne Port Authority have her due to leave Newcastle at 08.00 on Sunday 27th and move to Northumbrian Quay North Shields before sailing under tow with the Norweigen Ocean tug 'Pantodynamos' for Piraeus Greece on Wednesday 28th July.
The Gateshead Quay side will just not look the same anymore!
Mike :-)
Post by: Chris Fahey on July 23, 2008, 07:44:01 PM
Post by: Guest on July 23, 2008, 09:43:31 PM
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Ed-Hunter wrote:
I bet Gateshead/Newcastle wish HMS Caliope would go the same way.
Hi Chris
What - you mean towed out to sea by a tug :-)
Difference here is that it wasn't the Council that wanted the Tuxedo Princess out of the Tyne, it was the ships owners. The very same Council DO however want HMS Calliope to relocate as the reckon the building doesn't fit in with its environs, namely Sage and Baltic. Odd how they never minded when it was a modern building in a run down area!
Regards
Post by: JonHare on July 23, 2008, 09:56:57 PM
Post by: Pieter_Inpijn on July 24, 2008, 10:59:25 AM
Post by: Chris Fahey on July 24, 2008, 01:42:45 PM
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Ellwood wrote:
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Ed-Hunter wrote:
I bet Gateshead/Newcastle wish HMS Caliope would go the same way.
Hi Chris
What - you mean towed out to sea by a tug
Difference here is that it wasn't the Council that wanted the Tuxedo Princess out of the Tyne, it was the ships owners. The very same Council DO however want HMS Calliope to relocate as the reckon the building doesn't fit in with its environs, namely Sage and Baltic. Odd how they never minded when it was a modern building in a run down area!
Regards
Well it is a ship all be it a stone ship :lol:
Would of thought that Swan Hunters would be a perfect relocation, unless Tesco's have got there first 8-) .
Post by: Guest on July 24, 2008, 03:16:47 PM
Oddly enough there has been nothing in the local media about the departure of one of Tyneside's long time residents although given the condition of her not many will shed a tear.
I would be surprised if she was being towed away for demolition - if the ship was to be scrapped I would have thought a cheaper move would have been 40 nautical miles down to the Tees where Able UK Ltd have just been granted a license to scrap ships.
Regards
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 24, 2008, 06:28:29 PM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=t352rzgx0n0f&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=22176506&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&ss=yp.south%20gare%20teeside~pg.1~sst.0&encType=1
Post by: Mike on July 24, 2008, 06:49:10 PM
Piraeus is also well known for laid up ships so maybe she will join the list, or maybe they need livening up and need a Disco.
Maybe one of our Greek shipspotters will keep us up to date on her final fate.
Mike :-)
Post by: Guest on July 24, 2008, 07:14:13 PM
Of course the 'assumption' is that she is going to the breakers - however I have heard she will be spruced up and joining the QE2 in Dubai as the Disco of the Desert :lol:
Regards
Post by: Mike on July 24, 2008, 07:17:49 PM
:-)
Post by: Guest on July 24, 2008, 07:24:14 PM
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Tynesider wrote:
The port of Pyraeus in Greece is mainly a ferry port so heavy forbid they will re-use Tuxedo Princess as a ferry again.
Piraeus is also well known for laid up ships so maybe she will join the list, or maybe they need livening up and need a Disco.
Maybe one of our Greek shipspotters will keep us up to date on her final fate.
Mike
Hi Mike
I'm wondering if she is going to Pyraeus on the basis that the Tug Pantodynamous is based in that Port - perhaps a transitory stop wit a change of Tug?
Regards
Post by: Guest on July 24, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
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Tynesider wrote:
Thats a 'lot alota' sprucing up!
Hi Mike
True, oh so true.
Must be at least 10 years since I last looked over the edge of the Tyne Bridge to see what she was like from on high and her decks were a total mess with all sorts of rubbish strewn about.
I'm hoping to get some snaps of her tomorrow if the weather is fine :-)
Regards
Post by: Guest on July 25, 2008, 09:29:00 AM
Just heard that owing to the lack of or discrepancy in the Tuxedo Princess's 'seaworthy certificates' that she will not be moving out of the Tyne until matters are sorted out!
Still on the PTA Schedules to move down to the Northumbrian Quay though :-)
Regards
Post by: Guest on July 25, 2008, 01:44:09 PM
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pm_inpyn wrote:
Pantodynamos is more a Greek name? She will be towed to Greece and after that? Aliaga to be demolished? Anyone know?
Hi Pieter
I've received an email from Diavlos Maritime and they advise their instructions are to tow the vessel to Piraeus - no more, no less :-)
Regards
Post by: Mike on July 25, 2008, 04:07:08 PM
:-)
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 25, 2008, 10:54:12 PM
Post by: Mike on July 26, 2008, 06:32:21 PM
She is still down for 08.00 Sunday on Port of Tyne schedule for movement tonight at 19.30
Mike :-)
Post by: Guest on July 26, 2008, 08:02:12 PM
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Tynesider wrote:
Hi Brian
She is still down for 08.00 Sunday on Port of Tyne schedule for movement tonight at 19.30
Mike
Hi Mike
More importantly its moved from an EST to a FIRM :lol:
Regards
Post by: Guest on July 27, 2008, 06:03:24 AM
Just in case anyone is interested in watching the 'tow out' of the Tuxedo Princess this morning (Sunday - 08.00) you will be able to catch some of the proceedings on two web camera's that are positioned on the two towers of the Tyne Bridge.
Check out - http://www.tynebridgewebcam.com/
Regards
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 27, 2008, 11:37:09 AM
I had a chuckle to myself when the Tuxedo Princess was just passing the Baltic Flour Mill the Skipper on the Yarm Cross said to the Pilot" thats the easy bit done, are you dancing with the barmaids up there" :lol:
Post by: Robbie on July 27, 2008, 11:50:49 AM
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 27, 2008, 01:19:49 PM
TUXEDO PRINCESS 27 Jul 2008 19:00 Sailing NORTHUMBRIAN QUAY PIRAEUS United Kingdom CORY BROTHERS SHIPPING GHQF FIRM T000094
PANTODYNAMOS 27 Jul 2008 19:00 Sailing NORTHUMBRIAN QUAY PIRAEUS Panama CORY BROTHERS SHIPPING HO4409 FIRM 7038642
taken from the port of Tyne website
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 27, 2008, 07:25:31 PM
Post by: Mike on July 27, 2008, 07:43:31 PM
Spoke to her skipper this afternoon, they needed to load generators and some parts and emergency spares onto Tuxedo Princess anyhow which they did not want to load at Newcastle quay as Tuxedo Princess has now no power onboard.
When Tuxedo Princess came alongside Northumbrian Quay she was then handed over and under the command of Pantodynamos.
They had always planned for an eary start Monday Morning, but our boats that did go out reported fog up to 30 miles offshore.
I also spoke one of the guards on HMS Southampton who said the decision would be made at 13.00 to go to Sunderland or not, this was cancelled as the Captain said if they did go 'nobody would know anyhow' !
Do not know if any of you saw the panic at Northumberland Quay when Pantodynamos came back alongside to moor between Tuxedo Junction and Southampton, the crew on deck of Southampton paniced as they thought she was going to scratch her bow and paintwork.
Pantodynamos moored right under Southamptons bow and in true tugmanship did not touch a mouse!
Mike :-)
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 27, 2008, 08:13:00 PM
The maltby and the rowangarth were moored up alongside the greek tug when I turned up at the Mill Damm, I had just been down the A1, what I heard on the VHF was that the tug skippers and the skipper off thePantodynamos decided that it was a no go, the 2 river tugs then went up to Riverside Quay to wait for The City Of Lutece, the pilot managed to get aboard and then decided to send the ship to anchor and also went on the phone to VTS , for some reason!!!!!!?????? he then took about hour before he reboarded the pilot boat!!!
It seams to me that there is something wrong with the ship(City of Lutece) to me. What do you think?
Post by: Mike on July 27, 2008, 08:28:06 PM
City of Lutece may also have delayed sailing due to fog, Lyme Bay was due to dock but also abandened it also there not that a lot of space was available at Northumberland Quay.
Our boats reported fog right up and down the coast and up to 30 mile offshore.
I was up at Newcastle quay this morning and when Tuxedo Junction was passing under the Mellenium bridge when a little girl next to me asked her father 'daddy,' why is the ship going the wrong way!
Daddy relies, cause it won't go through the gap side ways!
cawky wrote:
hi Mike,
The maltby and the rowangarth were moored up alongside the greek tug when I turned up at the Mill Damm, I had just been down the A1, what I heard on the VHF was that the tug skippers and the skipper off thePantodynamos decided that it was a no go, the 2 river tugs then went up to Riverside Quay to wait for The City Of Lutece, the pilot managed to get aboard and then decided to send the ship to anchor and also went on the phone to VTS , for some reason!!!!!!?????? he then took about hour before he reboarded the pilot boat!!!
It seams to me that there is something wrong with the ship(City of Lutece) to me. What do you think?[/quote] :-) :-)
Post by: Brian Cawkwell on July 29, 2008, 05:53:20 PM
http://www.aisliverpool.org.uk/shiptrail.php?mmsi=353079000&map=-1&date=20080729
Post by: henrycourt on July 30, 2008, 04:23:07 PM
Post by: Guest on July 30, 2008, 09:13:10 PM
Don't mention that 'swear word' - FOG - I've been trying to escape from it on the Eastern Coast of Scotland since last Sunday! - the fog was so bad last night that the Port of Aberdeen was closed until the wee hours.
Regards
Post by: Guest on July 30, 2008, 09:15:38 PM
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nutbeam wrote:
Good to see someone finaly uploaded pictures of her departing. Thank you Ken Lubi for your pictures!!
Hi Robbie
I'll be posting some of her pull away from Gateshead Quayside tomorrow :lol:
Regards
Steve Ellwood
Post by: Guest on July 31, 2008, 03:24:02 PM
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cawky wrote:
Hi ,
I had a chuckle to myself when the Tuxedo Princess was just passing the Baltic Flour Mill the Skipper on the Yarm Cross said to the Pilot" thats the easy bit done, are you dancing with the barmaids up there
Hi Brian
The other piece of comedy was the reference to a banner held out from a Quayside balcony - "Goodbye Dancing Queen" - Alan J to the other Pilot - 'they must be talking about you'. :-o
Regards
Post by: Guest on July 31, 2008, 03:29:27 PM
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Tynesider wrote:
Pantodynamos
Spoke to her skipper this afternoon, they needed to load generators and some parts and emergency spares onto Tuxedo Princess anyhow which they did not want to load at Newcastle quay as Tuxedo Princess has now no power onboard.
Hi Mike
Whilst the Tuxedo Princess would have taken its power source directly from shore whilst it was berthed at Gateshead Quay you would have thought they would have back up generators onboard - i suspect however that all of the back up would have been on land.
I suppose there would have to be a power source onboard for the tow to Greece, even if its only to provide electricity to the Tuxedo Princess' navigation lights :-)
Regards
Post by: Guest on August 25, 2008, 09:39:19 AM
I am sure folk are dying to know this - the Tuxedo Princess arrived 20th August 2008 at KERATSINI which is just North of Piraeus see:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?oldmmsi=353079000&zoom=10&olddate=8/20/2008%208:50:00%20AM
Regards
Post by: Gunny on August 25, 2008, 05:56:36 PM
Post by: davidships on August 25, 2008, 07:11:26 PM
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=133482
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=133475
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=133488
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=133489
Post by: Guest on August 25, 2008, 07:12:24 PM
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Gunny wrote:
Would love to see what happens to her
Hi Gunny
Well there are plenty of Shipspotters visiting Piraeus, so no doubt we will see what becomes of her eventually :-)
Regards
Post by: andeedob on August 26, 2008, 05:57:53 PM
"http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=el&u=http://forum.nautilia.gr/showthread.php%3Ft%3D32719&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtuxedo%2Baliaga%26hl%3Den&usg=ALkJrhj_ZVjR_T3hoi_crDbbK__e1CcNsA&langid=1"
Post by: Guest on August 26, 2008, 06:13:20 PM
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andeedob wrote:
Although the subject and translation is a bit tricky to decipher . . this could suggest that she has already left Piraeus, with speculation she is bound for Aliaga ???? Any ideas/more info?
"http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=el&u=http://forum.nautilia.gr/showthread.php%3Ft%3D32719&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtuxedo%2Baliaga%26hl%3Den&usg=ALkJrhj_ZVjR_T3hoi_crDbbK__e1CcNsA&langid=1"
Hi andeedob
Interesting stuff - Aliaga - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alia%C4%9Fa
Aliağa is a town and a district of İzmir Province in the Aegean Region of Turkey. The town is situated at about 50 km (31 mi). north of İzmir and the economic activity is centered around an oil refinery, as well as tourism.
Regards
Post by: Aleksi Lindström on August 26, 2008, 06:16:23 PM
In the maritime world Aliaga is most known for its big ship demolition area so most definitely that will be her fate.
Cheers,
Aleksi
Post by: Guest on August 26, 2008, 06:20:57 PM
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AJL wrote:
Steve,
In the maritime world Aliaga is most known for its big ship demolition area so most definitely that will be her fate.
Cheers,
Aleksi
Hi Aleksi
This all seems to b surrounded in 'mystery and intrigue' - on one hand we are learning she has been renamed Prince and to be converted into a floating restaurant and the next that she is going for scrap.
If she was going for demolition we have a newly licensed facility just 25 miles down the North East Coast of England- Able UK @ Graythorpe that could have demolished her and saved the cost of the haul to Turkey.
No doubt we will find out in due course :lol:
Regards
Post by: Gunny on August 26, 2008, 06:30:32 PM
And it would be a great shame if that happened now.
Btw i found this forum after reading some Urban exploration forums which mentioned the Tuxedo O/Cally P which in turn had me googling tuxedo princess which eventually led me here.
Have always liked ships but not a serious ship spotter,i live in Methil in Fife where they used to make the oil rig platforms,now seeing them leave on the barges was a site to see. :-D
Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
(Ex Tuxedo Princess) can be seen on 'Ships Nostalgia' under Ferries at her berth last week in Pireaus Greece.
Also note the 'Carlesberg' sign has been painted out.
When you look at these picture you can begin to understand why Gateshead council wanted her out of the way.
Pity a few coats of paint and a Million pounds might have tidied her up!
Mike :-)
Post by: Krispen Atkinson on August 29, 2008, 08:26:02 AM
Krispen
Post by: Gunny on August 29, 2008, 04:03:15 PM
Post by: David Harrison on August 31, 2008, 06:51:44 PM
Am I cynical or what? I get the feeling that someone on the payroll of shipbreakers offers to buy old ships for whatever reason. Gets the owners of the ship to sail it to him. He then renegades on the deal. Now the ship is near the shipbreakers yard - they offer to scrap it. As nobody else wants the ship and it's too far to return to 'home', shipbreaker gets at rock bottom price.
Post by: Gunny on September 16, 2008, 03:30:35 PM
Those fine chaps did a fine job of cutting up Riverdance
Post by: Guest on October 06, 2008, 04:53:57 PM
This article in tonights Newcastle Evening Chronicle may be of interest?
Courtesy of http://tinyurl.com/3uj97l
"Iconic Tuxedo Princess set to be scrapped
Oct 6 2008 by Alastair Craig, Evening Chronicle
BASKING in the Greek sunshine, the iconic Tuxedo Princess is preparing for its final voyage.
The ship once moored on Tyneside is heading for the breaker
Post by: Guest on February 20, 2009, 03:30:54 PM
Interesting to see a photograph , and mention of the Tuxedo Princess in this months (March 2009) edition of Ships Monthly. Seen ny Ian Buxton during a visit to Aliaga, Turkey.
Regards
Post by: AlvinWilson on August 22, 2013, 05:37:24 AM
QuoteTynesider wrote:
Pantodynamos
Spoke to her skipper this afternoon, they needed to load generators and some parts and emergency spares onto Tuxedo Princess anyhow which they did not want to load at Newcastle quay as Tuxedo Princess has now no power onboard.
Hi Mike
Whilst the Tuxedo Princess would have taken its power source directly from shore whilst it was berthed at Gateshead Quay you would have thought they would have back up generators onboard - i suspect however that all of the back up would have been on land.
I suppose there would have to be a power source onboard for the tow to Greece, even if its only to provide electricity to the Tuxedo Princess' navigation led lighting (http://www.niceledlights.com) :-)
Regards
It could be the way Tuxedo Princess have derived power.. Were you able to find exact reason behind it..