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Title: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: PaulTarrant on June 30, 2020, 09:46:32 am
Hi, Coastal Shipping is giving advanced notice of this long awaited book being available from
mid-August.
www.coastalshipping.co.uk

Paul


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on July 03, 2020, 04:00:31 pm
Hi Paul

Confirm all text and photos have been submitted to publisher

Allan


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on August 17, 2020, 12:18:52 pm
Just a quick update on Ocean Fleets...everything has been proof-read, only the index to prepare, then it is off to the printers.

Pre-publication orders can now be sent to Bernard McCall at Coastal Shipping Publications
bernard@coastalshipping.co.uk
or via the web-site
www.coastalshipping.co.uk

This new edition contains details of over 10,000 vessels from cruise ships to container ships, bulkers, vehicle carriers and tankers of the majority of the World's major shipping lines.

Allan


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on September 14, 2020, 10:42:15 pm
Ocean Fleets is now available from Coastal Shipping Publications....


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: pieter melissen on September 15, 2020, 11:10:38 am
Just checked, my newest edition of Ocean Ships dates from 1982. It contained three sections, Passenger and Cruise Ships, Cargo Ships and Tankers.
Is this still applicable to the current version?


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on September 15, 2020, 12:52:18 pm
The later editions have only had two sections : part 1 - passenger/cruise ships and part 2 -  cargo vessels which includes major dry cargo, container and tanker fleets.


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: ChasB46 on September 15, 2020, 01:00:46 pm
Pieter, did you really mean 1982? If so Allan forgot to say the photos are now in colour and also assuming its based around the previous Ian Allen version it includes IMO numbers. 


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on September 15, 2020, 04:37:52 pm
Thanks Chas....also details on teu, ceu, cubic meters etc for PLG and LNG tankers


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: pieter melissen on September 15, 2020, 06:34:51 pm
Pieter, did you really mean 1982? If so Allan forgot to say the photos are now in colour and also assuming its based around the previous Ian Allen version it includes IMO numbers. 

Yes Chas, 1982... I may have to look at the newest edition first, but to me it looks like Passenger and Cruise ships are getting a too dominant position to my liking. Expressed in numbers of pages what is the share of the two categories?


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: ChasB46 on September 15, 2020, 08:28:56 pm
Hi Pieter, I'm jealous of your home location. I would happily swap the cruise ships from Southampton to you as I do not even bother photographing them now. Then you can have the auto carriers, all out of the same design mould. Does not actually leave me much to photograph /enthuse over especially as Convid scuppered plans for usual annual Netherlands visit. With acceptance of the swap offer I reckon the book would be a 'buy' for you.


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on September 15, 2020, 08:41:06 pm
Pieter - I do not know how you can comment about too much prominence given to cruise ships when you have not seen the book.

In fact part one listing contains 34pp and part 2 about 340pp,  so NO prominence given to cruise ships


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: pieter melissen on September 16, 2020, 06:45:22 am
Pieter - I do not know how you can comment about too much prominence given to cruise ships when you have not seen the book.

In fact part one listing contains 34pp and part 2 about 340pp,  so NO prominence given to cruise ships

Allan, thank you. I asked the question, and you provided me with the answer (10%) and at the same time you gave the total number of pages.....and yes if I buy such a book I want to be sure to buy something about ships and not a travel guide. In other words, if the attention cruise ships are getting on this site is anything to go for, I was a bit worried about a potential predominance.


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: pieter melissen on September 16, 2020, 06:49:46 am
Hi Pieter, I'm jealous of your home location. I would happily swap the cruise ships from Southampton to you as I do not even bother photographing them now. Then you can have the auto carriers, all out of the same design mould. Does not actually leave me much to photograph /enthuse over especially as Convid scuppered plans for usual annual Netherlands visit. With acceptance of the swap offer I reckon the book would be a 'buy' for you.

Chas, I can watch (not photograph) the car carriers from my loft. There is not much in such a trade for me at this moment.   


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: ChasB46 on September 16, 2020, 11:32:10 am
Hi Pieter, that's why I said I would exchange a few autocarriers ..14 here in next 4 days.  Missing a few of your 499 GRT coasters ... long wishful memory! Do not be too long buying the book ... free world tariffs etc. extra on Jan 1st!


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: pieter melissen on September 16, 2020, 07:35:52 pm
Hi Pieter, that's why I said I would exchange a few autocarriers ..14 here in next 4 days.  Missing a few of your 499 GRT coasters ... long wishful memory! Do not be too long buying the book ... free world tariffs etc. extra on Jan 1st!

I may wait for a further depreciation of the pound...


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Brian Clayton on October 06, 2020, 09:12:30 am
Many thanks to Allan RO, for finding a new publisher, and not allowing OCEAN SHIPS (now OCEAN FLEETS) to fade  away, like so many other good books
I now have my copy, and I'm very impressed. Surprisingly up to date. At 400 pages, its bigger that the last Ocean Ships, and much much bigger than my oldest 1964 edition. Thanks Allan 


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Allan RO on October 06, 2020, 05:28:30 pm
Hi Brian

Many thanks for your very kind words about Ocean Fleets.   I think Bernard and his crew did a wonderful production job with the book, the largest they have ever undertaken.  Hopefully sales will be sufficiently high to justify another edition in 3 years or so. 

Allan


Title: Re: Ocean Fleets 2020 (was Ocean Ships 2020)
Post by: Brian Clayton on October 06, 2020, 06:20:27 pm
Hello Allan,

No problem, praise where praise is due.

I'm trying to encourage others in my area, who have a shipping interest, to purchase the book. As like you I hope there will be future editions.
Although we can find out much online these days, I always find a book a valuable source of information, and something that can be looked back in future years.
Thanks again.