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Title: Marine Traffic
Post by: Allan RO on May 13, 2020, 08:08:49 pm
Since this morning, Marine Traffic has not been giving any times on way-points and is asking for an upgrade to access this information.   This has always been available on the free version.  Any one else noticed this or is it a glitch with my search engine?

Allan


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Patrick Hill on May 14, 2020, 06:39:37 am
Just checked and same here Allan so not anything at your end.


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 14, 2020, 08:30:01 am
Another Marine traffic question

The aircraft carrier anchored in the Solent is showing as the Prince of Wales on MT but some facebook images show her as the Queen Elizabeth, can anyone confirm which she is?

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Bjørn Knudsen on May 14, 2020, 12:42:23 pm
https://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Ships/Queen-Elizabeth-9477438.html

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:5838583/mmsi:232002833/imo:4907907/vessel:PRINCE_OF_WALES/_:9be6582b6f85c349e2316542b90d06b5


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: davidships on May 14, 2020, 01:26:37 pm
MT are also showing both QE and PoW (as "British Warship") moored near each other in the Solent.

Mind you, according to MT, QE was tucked up in Lymington Marina (onshore!) on the 11th.  I knew that she could be hidden if one really tried.

You're allowed out now, Bob!


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 14, 2020, 03:06:26 pm
Thanks guys but still none the wiser  :)
There's only one aircraft carrier out there but MT, as you say, shows both carriers plus a frigate (pretty sure only one carrier was showing earlier). latest webcam attached.

As for going out, my kids are still very protective and think we should see how the "R" goes for a couple of weeks before we go out, probably good advice.

Take care everyone

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Allan RO on May 14, 2020, 04:29:57 pm
seems my post got highjacked - it is really about whether Marine Traffic have changed what you get for free.  i.e. times on the way-points.....

Allan


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: ChasB46 on May 14, 2020, 04:46:51 pm
Vesselfinder = Prince of Wales


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 14, 2020, 05:11:25 pm
seems my post got highjacked - it is really about whether Marine Traffic have changed what you get for free.  i.e. times on the way-points.....

Allan

Yeah, sorry Allan, my fault.

Stay safe

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Allan RO on May 14, 2020, 07:44:46 pm
that's OK Bob, but I would still like to know if MT have changed their rules.  My Ship Tracking shows HMS Queen Elizabeth in Solent.  Also Portsmouth QHM shows QE at Charlie Anchorage, sailing for Nab tomorrow at 08.00.

Allan


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 15, 2020, 08:58:18 am
Thanks Allan
Yes, noticed QE sailed this morning but PoW still showing with a frigate but nothing on the webcam, very strange.
I also get the same issues on the way-points, asking to upgrade. Perhaps they are working on the site because MT opens in satellite view rather than standard view for the last couple of days but that's only a click of the mouse to rectify.

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Allan RO on May 15, 2020, 11:06:17 am
Yep, its rather annoying, cos I still find it the best one to use, but having to find alternatives at present.    Equasis glitch seemed to be due to updating, so maybe its the same with MT, can't say its worth £12/m for times on way-points.

Allan


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: John Grace on May 15, 2020, 02:41:25 pm
Going off tilt a little bit, according to MT Fram left Bergen, ATD at 12.02hrs 15/05/2020 and arrived Fiskarstranda, ATA at 12.05.
I did ask questions a week or so about odd movements by Fram so it seems that there have been problems for some time. Suspect it may be to do with Covid 19 situation but really who knows. It is a free service to most users so I wonder if there are any members paying for MT service that could tell us otherwise?


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: victor radio74 on May 15, 2020, 03:29:27 pm
Hi,this MarineTraffic issue also happened some time ago but later on was solved..Lets´s wait.
In the meantime you can try for free  Lacalizatodo HTML5, when you press on a ship appears a bar on the bottom where you can see the time/track
rgds


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Allan RO on May 15, 2020, 03:54:19 pm
thanks Victor, I'll try this one...

Allan


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: pieter melissen on May 16, 2020, 10:57:13 am
What is the fuss all about? I can clearly see whether a ship is in coming that will incite me to take my bicycle and make a ride to the river. That's the only thing I need (Except for the photographs, but that is another discussion topic).


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: simonwp on May 16, 2020, 11:33:45 am
Yes, that's how I use it. If I see the tugs starting to move, I know it's time to leave home for ships sailing from Immingham, if I see the vessel rounding Spurn Head, it's time to leave for incoming. Gone are the days of hanging around on cold riverbanks waiting to see if anything moved!!!!


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Allan RO on May 16, 2020, 02:47:40 pm
that's fine, but when you are logging the actual arrival and departure times it is NOT fine.

All I am trying to find out is if MT have changed their rules and standards for free users.

Allan


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: pieter melissen on May 16, 2020, 03:05:02 pm
that's fine, but when you are logging the actual arrival and departure times it is NOT fine.


Allan

Are you trying to establish port productivity in combination with actual load or discharge rates?


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: SD7 on May 17, 2020, 08:18:23 am
Another Marine traffic question

The aircraft carrier anchored in the Solent is showing as the Prince of Wales on MT but some facebook images show her as the Queen Elizabeth, can anyone confirm which she is?

Regards

Bob

Bob,

HMS Queen Elizabeth was anchored off Stokes Bay for two weeks quarantine prior to going on deployment. HMS Prince of Wales was alongside in Portsmouth when I saw them on Thursday.

Steve.


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: SD7 on May 17, 2020, 08:30:02 am
that's fine, but when you are logging the actual arrival and departure times it is NOT fine.


Allan

Are you trying to establish port productivity in combination with actual load or discharge rates?

I found the arrival dates and times very useful, and not to discover load or discharge times.

It seems you need to have 400+ photos (plus one or two other caveats) for a free subscription, although that might change also.

MT are being a bit mean spirited here, and having used photos from hundreds of people to get where they are today have now limited some functionality that some people found useful.

Thing is what comes next?

Daft thing is, if you buy the £2.99 phone app you still get the waypoint data!

Still, for those who feel strongly enough it might be worth complaining to MT and threatening to withdraw the rights for them to use your photos.

Commercial rates for the use of photographic material range from £10 and £60. Just because this is a hobby for many people shouldn't mean we're sold short.

Steve.


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: davidships on May 17, 2020, 09:02:06 am
Quote
HMS Queen Elizabeth was anchored off Stokes Bay for two weeks quarantine prior to going on deployment. HMS Prince of Wales was alongside in Portsmouth when I saw them on Thursday.
Just wondering whether one of PoW's boats was out in the Solent producing the AIS trace seen on  Marine Traffic?


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: pieter melissen on May 17, 2020, 11:27:13 am
I mentioned that the Marine Traffic photographs were a different subject.

I just came across this prime example:

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:923592/mmsi:-7525827/imo:7525827/vessel:TRIAS

They also often label a photo a specific ship with the name that it had been carrying before.
I have asked them about that and it seems to be related to what the AIS signal is telling them. I have never uploaded a photo there, but is the info to the photo out of control from the photographer.

Just to indicate that I am not prepared to pay anything for their services.


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: SD7 on July 15, 2020, 04:18:59 pm
Since this morning, Marine Traffic has not been giving any times on way-points and is asking for an upgrade to access this information.   This has always been available on the free version.  Any one else noticed this or is it a glitch with my search engine?

Allan

Marine Traffic have been at it again!

A useful feature was to be able to click on a ship icon and then project this forward to a potential waypoint. This would give a date and approximate time at that point.

A recent update has removed that feature unless you subscribe.

For people who only use this occasionally but who have freely given their photos in support of MT, this seems yet another blow.

Steve


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: Owen Foley on July 16, 2020, 10:57:25 am
Marine Traffic have been at it again!

A useful feature was to be able to click on a ship icon and then project this forward to a potential waypoint. This would give a date and approximate time at that point.

A recent update has removed that feature unless you subscribe.
If you right click on the ship do you get any menu options?
If you do, click on "route from here" and then mark the track to see distance and times.


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: teachers on July 16, 2020, 03:07:18 pm
Marine traffic over here in Thailand has become almost useless for tracking live ship movements for the past 2 months.
There are many ships in port that are not even shown on the map.
Quite often you have to wait until a ship is well underway before you get anything, and quite often you just get one live echo.
I have a number of photos on there.
It does have some good points but i mainly use it for live tracking so i dont have to sit down by the river all day.
Like many places around the world, when you spend a lot of time there, it becomes harder and harder to see new ships.
The ship shedule i get over here every day is a great help, combined with marine traffic when it does show the odd ship live.


Title: Re: Marine Traffic
Post by: BerlinShipper on July 30, 2020, 03:00:24 pm
My developer in our company switched from Marine traffic to datalastic API because of these small issues. Another alternative.
https://datalastic.com/