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Title: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 24, 2016, 11:27:29 AM
I've just found out that a lot of my pix have been posted on Instagram by someone with no scruples regarding copyright.
I also see a lot of other pix I recognise from other photographers here.

Here's the account:  https://www.instagram.com/nader_zahra/
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Pilot Frans on December 24, 2016, 12:52:38 PM
same item as
http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,15372.0.html
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Knut Lorentzen on December 24, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
that account is well known for posting pictures from others, just report it and maybe
they can set a stopper for this at instagram.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Allan RO on December 24, 2016, 02:43:02 PM
Owen -

the only way to protect your images is not to put them on Shipspotting - which rather defeats the object of posting to share with fellow enthusiasts.  There will always be image thieve; they have no scruples regarding image rights and copyright, and once a pic is on the net it is open for anyone to take and use in whatever way they choose. With most I would guess there is no financial benefit sought, but I have no doubt there are some who try to make an income from stolen images which is the most galling aspect of image theft.  At least on Instagram, they never get the full image because of the format.

Allan
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on December 24, 2016, 03:43:10 PM
I have tried reporting this to Instagram but without success
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: pieter melissen on December 24, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
 Copyright Agent, c/o Instagram
1601 Willow Road
Menlo Park, CA 94025

E-mail: [email protected]

Telefoon: (650) 384-2250

Fax: (650) 384-2253

Unfortunately the individual whose copyright has been breached should complain.  Derek, one of your shots now features prominently in the site of this guy, so if you send an email or make a phonecall you can link directly to your shot.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on December 24, 2016, 07:56:32 PM
Thanks Pieter,

Have just emailed them and await response on behalf of all our members who have had photos used without permission

best regards

Derek
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 24, 2016, 10:42:04 PM
I've also filed a report and they asked for additional information so I've now given them a list of the first 20 of mine and matching URLs for the originals and another list of the first 20 I saw that were stolen from other photographers.
I ended it with this ....
As there are thousands of stolen images in his Instagram account, I cannot find each and every one for you but I trust that I have provided enough evidence to show that nader_zahra is a serial copyright violator and thief and that little if any material he posts is legitimate.
Please take the appropriate action.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Clydee on December 24, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Thank you Owen.  Well done!

You and Derek have provided a test for Instagram policy and procedures.  They should be able to sense that.

Clyde
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Hannes van Rijn on December 25, 2016, 09:55:33 AM

Have just emailed them and await response on behalf of all our members who have had photos used without permission

best regards

Derek
[/quote]

I've also emailed them in the past (Instagram), but they do not respond even.I have posted some comments on nader_zahra his account on Instagram.I guess he does not like it.

Rgds
Hannes.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: miraflores on December 25, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
I have found a Facebook-Account from a user Nader Zahra with all that stolen ship photos, he lives in Tartous/Syria.
https://www.facebook.com/nader.zahra.5?lst=100013527875745%3A100005226192186%3A1482662492

Rgds. Juergen
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Stan Laundon on December 25, 2016, 05:18:15 PM
As person who does websites, and photography, believe me I know what it's like to have photographs stolen. Despite placing a watermark on all my images, they will still get taken.

However, you might like to see this from DACS:

https://www.dacs.org.uk/knowledge-base/factsheets/understanding-social-media-terms-and-conditions (https://www.dacs.org.uk/knowledge-base/factsheets/understanding-social-media-terms-and-conditions)
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 28, 2016, 12:51:18 AM
I have had a (very) small result with Instagram.
Here is what they have come back with:
    "The Instagram Team" <[email protected]>
Hi,

We have removed or disabled access to the third-party or user-generated content you have reported to us. We take intellectual property rights seriously, and will take appropriate action against the accounts of repeat infringers.

If you have any further questions, please visit the Intellectual Property section of our Help Center:

http://help.instagram.com/535503073130320/
Thanks,
Marvin
Intellectual Property Operations
Instagram

The 20 images of mine that I alerted them to and the first 20 from other Shipspotting posters have been removed.
The offender has continued to post stolen images (many from here and some going back 3 years) and I've commented on his recent posts.
But I'm not happy with Instagram when they say they will take appropriate action against the accounts of repeat infringers.
I thought I gave them sufficient evidence to show that most or all of his material is stolen so I'm going to keep nagging them to attempt to get them to take appropriate action against the accounts of repeat infringers.



Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Tony Martin on December 28, 2016, 02:11:20 AM
Owen, Thank you for your effort in removing the photos from Instagram. He clearly does not get the message however, Tropic Maritime recent image of Nepean has appeared on his site. Hopefully Instagram will take action. Cheers Tony 
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 28, 2016, 02:15:33 AM
I've just sent Instagram Intellectual Property Operations another list of 30 more images from the offending site and links to the original images and I'm asking them how much evidence they need to actually do anything about this image thief.
The shot of Nepean was one of them.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: tropic maritime images on December 28, 2016, 02:32:12 AM
Thanks for your prompt actions Owen, and thanks for the heads up Tony. I've fired off an email to the IP bods also. If we annoy them enough, some action may be taken.

Cheers,
tropic
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 28, 2016, 04:05:12 AM
No worries Tropic .
Nice shot of the Nepean saltshaker too btw.
It reminded me of one of mine: https://abovephotos.smugmug.com/Other/Mooloolaba-Pilots/n-WLG2XN/i-f6RT6L3/A
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: pieter melissen on December 28, 2016, 09:46:44 AM
At least we now know the name of a person there, MARVIN, so we have a direct place to go.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on December 29, 2016, 10:39:46 AM
Update, most of my photos have been removed I take it by the poster due to some of my comments on them.

The rest I have claimed copyright for and have demanded Instagram remove them, have had a email back stated various elements to allow them to proceed.

I have warned them that I believe 100% of the copyright violators postings are not his and they will be receiving more claims from members of this website.

I await their response but encourage others to go down this path to have their images removed from this rogue account. I have suggested that the account be closed.

brdgs

Derek
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on December 29, 2016, 11:25:46 AM
Could one of those successfully dealing with Instagram/Facebook on this please post here a "pro-forma" text that should be sent by the copyright-holding member - and where it should be sent.

There are at least 6 other SS members (most of whom will probably not see this forum) whose photos have been posted on Nader Zahra's Facebook page in the last two weeks alone.  I am happy to PM them and point them here.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on December 29, 2016, 12:11:21 PM
Hi David,

Here is the last communications between myself and Instagram  in full.


Hi,

Thanks for the detailed explanation of what I need to do next. I am happy to see that already most of my photos have been deleted from the account of the copyright violator.
I presume he is fed up of my comments on them and has deleted them himself.

My name and address follow

Derek Sands
33 Portland Crescent,
Dovercourt,
Harwich,
Essex CO12 3QH
United Kingdom.

Phone 44 01255 507017

email [email protected]  or [email protected]

I am an amateur Ship photographer who has several photos published and used by shipping companies such as Rickmers.

I was also a long time Webmaster on the specialist site Shipspotting.com  which has over 2 million photos on.

My rights that have been violated is that my photos are being used without my permission and being claimed as the posters own work.

The basis for claiming legal rights is that I am the photographer of each of the images and these are my intellectual property.

Links for my photos which are still illegally on instagram posted by Nader Zahra

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOHo7f5htzF/?taken-by=nader_zahra&hl=en

and my photo posted on Shipspotting.com

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2583517


https://www.instagram.com/p/BM_kUOuBbtn/?taken-by=nader_zahra&hl=en

and my photo on Shipspotting.com

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2571006

There were at least another 10 images which have been recently removed.

However you will be receiving multiple copyright claims against this account as none of the photos are taken by the poster and most are copied from Shipspotting.co.
I will be contacting the owner of Shipspotting.com and the forum on the site contains already a thread pertaining to this multiple copyright violator. Members are being
advised to contact instagram direct.

I declare, under penalty of perjury, that all of the information contained in my notice is accurate and that the claimed use of my intellectual property described above, in the manner I have complained of, is not authorised by the rights owner, its agent or the law, and that I am the rights owner .

best regards

Derek Sands
Former Webmaster Shipspotting.com

The Instagram Team wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for your report. We would like to help, but bear in mind that this channel is for reporting violations of your legal rights, such as copyright or trademark rights.
>
> If instead you want to report something that you think does not follow the Instagram Terms of Service (e.g. hacked accounts, impersonation accounts, hate accounts), please visit our Help Centre to learn how you can report this to Instagram:
>
> https://help.instagram.com/372161259539444/
>
> If you are contacting us to report a violation of your legal rights, we will be happy to follow up but will need the following additional information to process your report:
>
> - Your complete contact information, including your name, postal address and telephone number. (Please note that we regularly provide your contact information, including your name and email address, the name of your organisation or client who owns the right in question, and/or the contents of your report to the person who posted the content that you are reporting. You may wish to provide a professional or business email address for contact by users.)
>
> - If you are acting on behalf of an entity or another person that is the holder of the legal rights, please identify that entity or person and describe your relationship to them (e.g. lawyer, agent).
>
> - An explanation as to which legal rights you believe are being infringed or violated (e.g. trademark, copyright).
>
> - Your basis for claiming those legal rights (e.g. trademark registration, a description of your copyrighted work).
>
> - A link (URL) to each profile, photo or other item that you are reporting. If a link is not available, please provide a detailed description of where the content appears on Instagram, including the name of the person who posted it and the time that they posted it.
>
> - An explanation of how you believe each of the pieces of content that you have identified violates the specific legal right(s) named above.
>
> - A statement that you declare, under penalty of perjury, that all of the information contained in your notice is accurate and that the claimed use of your intellectual property described above, in the manner you have complained of, is not authorised by the rights owner, its agent or the law, and that you are the rights owner or are authorised to act on behalf of the rights owner.
>
> We take intellectual property rights seriously and will investigate this matter further upon receiving the requested information.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Instagram
>
> -----Original Message----
> From: Derek Sands ([email protected])
> To: Facebook
> Subject: Copyright breaches by Nader-zahra
>
> Hi,
>
> This guy:-
>
> https://www.instagram.com/nader_zahra/
>
> Has several photos of mine and others taken from the Website Shipspotting.com of which I am the former Webmaster.
> I tried filing out your report form and which was easy but when I press send it says try later, I did so over several hours without success so guess its not working.
>
> Here is one of the breaches of copyright
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BOZ0b74ByF8/?taken-by=nader_zahra
>
> and the link to my photo on shipspotting.com
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.shipspotting.com_gallery_photo.php-3Flid-3D2590041&d=DgICaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_kx9Wq6EL1jZh3TG73jL_A&m=I3QnLn-Sjz3QMR0Ck_m9gN0gwLwbD69GzzvQKTJN7IA&s=7h2qoqrZURlFxlPQmlfhO-Gjwuv1XoHe4fC-uWZpk2I&e=
> Having been through his profile it would seem none of the photos he has posted belong to him. Several are mine and there are many others from well known contributors
> on Shipspotting.com.
>
> I can detail them, all if you will respond. Please consider a ban for this member of Instagram.
>
> best regards
>
> Derek Sands
> Harwich,
> United Kingdom
> -----End Original Message-----
>
>

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 29, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
Our Instagram poster hasn't removed anything but Instagram have removed 40 images so far.
I started by filling out their copyright violation form and had to supply links to the stolen images and corresponding links to the originals.
I'm waiting for them to remove another 36 more that I have supplied and I keep nagging them regarding their their statement about taking IP seriously and asking how much evidence I need to supply before they actually take appropriate action.
If they don't cancel his account and he keeps posting, I'll keep nagging them.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Pilot Frans on December 29, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
Good to see that intagram finally take some action.
Thanks for the work done Derek
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on December 29, 2016, 01:14:05 PM
Question: when a photo is deleted from the Instagram a/c, does it also disappear from his Facebook page, or does Facebook have to be dealt with in parallel (even though they are the same business)?
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 29, 2016, 01:25:26 PM
I haven't approached Facebook yet or even looked at what he has there.
The simplest way to answer would be to compare the sites to see if the Facebook site has a lot of extra photos in about the first hundred.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on December 29, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
Yes Owen, but I don't know what of yours has been deleted from Instagram.  Could you just walk through the relevant pages of https://www.facebook.com/nader.zahra.5
and see whether any of yours show up? 
Most, if not all, of his latest ship photos there are from ShipSpotting.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 29, 2016, 01:58:59 PM
OK David .. it looks like he has a different assortment on show at Facebook with some of the same images and some others.
But I see quite a few of mine and others that I've had deleted from Instagram are there
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: pieter melissen on December 29, 2016, 03:57:33 PM
I have posted this message on his facebook page.

'Dear Sir, it has come to our attention that you are posting other people photographs of ships on both Facebook and Instagram. Actions are going on to block your Instagram account. If you don't want the same to happen to your facebook account, can you please remove all the images for whhich you do not hold the  copyright?
Thank you, on behalf of Shipspotting.com, Pieter Melissen"

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 29, 2016, 04:15:41 PM
Can anyone identify a couple of the ships our mate has just posted?
I can't make out the names.
They are:
a blue MSC tanker:  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOmrTe4BtJu/?taken-by=nader_zahra
a white Seatrade container vessel:  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOmrO_Xhiu8/
a yellow Biglift - Happy something:  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOmrIAnBfSR/?taken-by=nader_zahra
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: jadran on December 29, 2016, 04:34:39 PM
Can anyone identify?
a yellow Biglift - Happy something:  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOmrIAnBfSR/?taken-by=nader_zahra

Hi Owen,
HAPPY BUCCANEER (IMO 8300389)
Brgds /Jadran


Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: rene2805 on December 29, 2016, 06:11:33 PM
Owen,

Seatrade vessel is Magellan Strait (9267534) or Messina Strait (9267546)

Regards Ren
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Brent on December 29, 2016, 07:12:39 PM
Morning

The Seatrade is Messina Strait, shipspotting link:
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2115584

The tanker is NCC Maha, and s/s link:
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2517210

Both from regular contributors.

Cheers
Brent
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on December 30, 2016, 08:48:41 PM
I have received an email today saying that Instagram have removed my images from the rogue account.

Cannot understand how they still allow this man to still have an account as all his images are stolen.

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: ventuari on December 31, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Hi.

The same with me. A lot of my shots there...  ::)

MBregards
ventuari
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Captain Ted on December 31, 2016, 05:18:04 PM
Just looked at his FB page,,,he sure likes our pictures and coffee !!!!
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on December 31, 2016, 10:26:32 PM
I'm getting tired of Instagram.
They say all the right things but so far have only deleted individual images that I report.
I haven't been able to get them to do anything about the other 7300 images or to comment.
I'm not sure how to get any action from them
Here's what I just sent them:

No Instagram ... that is not true at all.
Instagram couldn't give a toss about intellectual property and happily facilitate image theft by your members.
I have given you evidence that shows your member nader_zahra does nothing but post stolen images and he has over 7000 on his Instagram site, posting more daily.
I've attached another listing of stolen images and the urls he stole them from just today.
I've provided this evidence for almost 100 stolen images but he blatantly posts more daily while every email from you says you "take intellectual property rights
 seriously, and will take appropriate action against the
 accounts of repeat infringers"

Sorry Instagram but there's no truth in those weasel words.
A list of today's stolen images on his account is attached.
How about actually doing something more than just deleting these.
Or do I have to track down 7300 more?
And how about actually replying to my concerns?
Happy New Year (for image theft in Instagram?)
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Clydee on January 01, 2017, 01:56:40 AM
Good man Owen for trying so thoroughly.

I am sure Instagram would ignore any threats of (costly and long term) legal action.

They may respond to a threat of media publicity. 
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on January 01, 2017, 02:13:08 AM
Happy New Year Clyde and congratulations on getting your pic of The World on Instagram.
It's in the latest list I sent them. : )
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Clydee on January 01, 2017, 05:44:26 AM
Happy New Year to you too Owen!  Keep on flying your drone.

I understand your use of the word congratulations.  Thank you for including my pic on the list of stolen items. 
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on January 05, 2017, 09:36:43 AM
I've run into a slight roadblock with Instagram.
As of Jan 1 Facebook are handling IP issues and today I received this:
Thanks for your report. Based on the information you
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on January 12, 2017, 09:05:49 PM
SInce Facebook took over intellectual property reports for Instagram this year, I have been unable to get them to delete any images other than my own.
They never answer any questions and won't do anything other than delete images complained about by the image owner.
I send a listing of all the recent stolen images from Facebook with each complaint but this is ignored without even a comment.

The "good news" is that I've found an easier way to file a complaint than filling out their long form.
Just send an email to: [email protected]
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on January 15, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
The stealing and posting of images on the Instagram account of Nader Zahra continues unabated.
Its obvious that Instagram have no intention of stopping this serial offender or suspending his account.
Until they do (which I doubt) I will not post images on Shipspotting.com for him to steal.
They have removed all mine and I will not give him any more to post as his own.


Brgds

Derek
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on January 22, 2017, 12:32:23 AM
I'm not sure if this is a one-off or he's trying to make things difficult but the last photo posted by nz has had the name obscured which makes it difficult to track the original.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPh5c9VhO5s/?taken-by=nader_zahra.

I'll post something that should take his fancy and see what shows up.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Clydee on January 22, 2017, 05:22:48 AM
Good man Owen

Please report back here.  A formal site Webmaster complaint may be required.

Clyde
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: miraflores on January 22, 2017, 07:59:26 AM
It's not exact the same photo but looks like same date and same position (look at the dutch curtesy flag)

https://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=2450281&size=1600

Rgds. Juergen
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on January 22, 2017, 08:29:19 AM
Good spotting Juergen .. that photo looks so close you would think it was just a few seconds away or from another photographer standing very close.
The mast to the right of the powerstation stacks vs to the left.
But looking closer, the lighting looks different (clear blue sky vs hazy grey)and the big difference is the pattern of stacked logs is quite different so it's two very similar shots from two different days.

I don't know if nz painted out the vessel's name or the image he stole was already like that.
Google searching doesn't find any similar shots.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: csaba on January 27, 2017, 05:56:37 AM
This dude is a seriously messed up character :P. Soooo many photos of so many different ships in so many different locations, all stolen...does anybody actually believe that he took them all? Doesn't he have anything better to do with his life  ::) ??  I didn't go through all of them but have found only one of mine, the dude has no style...I mean, the pic is not the best one, looks good on SS but on IG it looks dismal, blurry. C'mon, if you are displaying my pic show it properly  :)!! IG should block him....
Thanks to those who contacted IG.
Cheers...
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 01, 2017, 10:11:57 PM
I'm gradually getting results from Instagram with frequent nagging.
I include a listing of other stolen images whenever I file a complaint about nader_zahra posting my work.  Sometimes it is ignored but eventually someone there just deletes everything on the list.
I think it's about 200 removed now and his display is looking less attractive with so many Shipspotting photos gone.
Instagram never answer any of my questions and I always get the same robot reply with the same weasel words.

I get all the photos I can identify but I'm sure there are some Shipspotting photos I've missed because I can't make out the vessel's name to be able to track down the original.

If anyone can help with any I've missed or some of the many older images, pass the info on and I'll add it to the material I send to Instagram with my regualr nagging emails.
email:  [email protected]
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: csaba on February 02, 2017, 04:33:38 AM
Hello Owen,
I have seen this photo of mine
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2529508

I also have a question: I have tried to create an Instagram account from my desktop computer, but whenever I fill in my data (name, e-mail, password...) and click submit, the only message I get is "something went wrong, pls try again later" I has been like this for days. Any thoughts?
many thanks for your work :-)
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 02, 2017, 04:43:29 AM
Sorry Csaba ... I'm not sure what the problem would be creating an account.
I'll track down that photo but for anyone else, what I need is the link for the stolen pic on Instagram & the link to the same pic on Shipspotting.com like this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BP-JN3JB6GN/?taken-by=nader_zahra      http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2503179
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: csaba on February 02, 2017, 05:09:53 AM
Thanks Owen,
Here is the link on IG
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKGKfP0j3LR/?taken-by=nader_zahra
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 02, 2017, 05:11:52 AM
Thanks Csaba ... it's on the list I'm building to send with my next complaint.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: miraflores on February 02, 2017, 10:37:48 AM
@Owen
I have not a Facebook account and will not create one, but a friend just informed me that @NADER_ZAHRA has an account with hundreds of stolen ships photos from Shipspotting, many of your phantastic drone photos are also visible. Just take a look.

Regards
Juergen
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 02, 2017, 10:47:23 AM
Thanks Juergen ... I'll have to start on his other account too by the sound of it.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Rick Vince on February 02, 2017, 12:06:06 PM
I have been following this thread for a long while. It makes my blood boil that Instagram fail to close the thief's account.
However, it would appear that he is Syrian, so why bother posting only in English to his account photos?

I suggest to copy and paste the following phrase in Arabic  AND English, (which may offend his morals - if he has any) to as many of his photos as you can. He will get the message, as will his followers:-

أنت لص الصورة. لا شيء من هذه الصور هي لك. وقف سرقة الصور. لا يوجد لديك الأخلاق.

You are a photo thief. None of the photos are yours. Stop stealing photos. You have no morals.


Regards, Rick

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: miraflores on February 03, 2017, 10:12:20 AM
The site is suspended?
https://www.instagram.com/nader_zahra/

But a new site (same as before with other name) is online:
https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotter68/

Regards
Juergen
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on February 03, 2017, 11:38:28 AM
The labelling of stolen image of "ship_spotter68/" is entirely appropriate, and the more that are identified the better.
But may I request that abusive/vulgar language is not used, especially when associated with mentions of ShipSpotting. 

Is this really a new page?  Or have the 7000+ pics from the old one just been transferred to a new user-name?
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 03, 2017, 02:43:00 PM
Facebook/Instagram are too spineless to suspend him.
I keep reporting his account but nothing happens beyond removing the individual images I list for them.
It's the same page with a changed user name, possibly because he doesn't like the additional comments getting posted on his stolen images.
I think getting the comments in nearly as soon as he posts might irritate him because they are there for most of his audience to see.
Until Facebook actually enforce their rules, if he wants to keep posting stolen images he now has to put up with these comments.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: miraflores on February 03, 2017, 04:13:01 PM
And the next account has gone:  https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotter68/
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 03, 2017, 11:44:31 PM
Interesting.  Yesterday when he simply changed his user name, I could still see his pics with links to the old user name.
Now none work.
My last email from Facebook IP team was one of their standard robot replies saying they needed more information before they could look into my report.
No clue they were going to do anything but perhaps they have?
If so it only took about 40 nagging emails.

Now to work on them about his Facebook a/c.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on February 04, 2017, 02:01:44 AM
I am still seeing all the photos at https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotter68/
It seems that the change was just a ploy to effectively remove all the adverse photo comments (or he has done that by some other means).  Where do we go from here, Owen?
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Tony Martin on February 04, 2017, 02:57:56 AM
Seems there is no way of stopping this guy. He has now posted more photos from this site. eg Walters Canival legend and Arnes Hamburg.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 04, 2017, 03:22:22 AM
Hmm ... this guy doesn't like the comments I've been putting on all his stolen images and his name change may have been to shake me off.
But he has no shame. 
I tried someone else's phone and it would appear that he's blocked me so I can't see his stuff and he's deleted my comments that were annoying him.
I'm not sure who is irritating me the most, the image thief or Facebook that ignore me most of the time - it's a close race.

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on February 04, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Hi Owen,

Its seems his shipspotter-68  ID is gone too I tried to find by using the normal link this morning.
Either Instagram have deleted it or he has changed name again. Will try and hunt him out again.

cheers
Derek
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 04, 2017, 11:06:46 AM
That's what I thought earlier today Derek but he's still there with his new name and followers.
He didn't like your comments and deleted them and barred you as well. 
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on February 04, 2017, 11:22:16 AM
Ok There seems not much we can do as Instagram and Facebook seem not to be bothered by image theft.
His accounts should be deleted along with all the photos. Whats his new ID? Will have to join Instagram I suppose again under another name if he has barred me
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on February 04, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
Whats his new ID Owen please? and how did you find it?
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Geir Vinnes on February 04, 2017, 11:33:16 AM
I can still see the photos here: https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotter68/
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on February 04, 2017, 11:35:46 AM
I just get a page not available although I have changed my name on Instagram guess I will have to change my email too
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on February 04, 2017, 12:14:47 PM
I fear that those who say that Instagram are unlikely to take any action beyond removing individual images following copyright claims by the originator are, in practice, right.  They are probably only concerned about any legal liability that they may have, and may well judge that individual photographer-members of Shipspotting are not going to sue them.  Morals do not seem to concern them.

In order to stay free from legal liability they, as a social platform which does not control what users post, have to establish their "safe harbor" under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US. They are protected providing they:

a) do not have actual knowledge that there is infringing content on their servers, or know any surrounding facts that would make the infringing use apparent;
b) do not receive any financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity if you have the ability to control such activity; and
c) act expeditiously to remove or disable access to the infringing material upon obtaining knowledge or awareness that the material is infringing or upon receiving a properly drafted notice of infringement

It seems from members' experience that they do take down individual photos when informed by giving a "properly drafted notice of infringement"
I don't think that Instagram receive any financial benefit as Instagram doesn't carry ads alongside infringing images (though that may be different for Facebook)

However I am not sure that they are meeting the requirements of (a) and (c) when they have already removed some images, and been given evidence that there are many other infringing images and that the user is habitually adding new ones.  

I am prepared to at least give it a try on behalf of members to see whether Instagram's designated Copyright Agent will respond at all.  I think that to do that I need:

1) authorisation from, say, a couple of members to act on their behalf in relation to specific images (that should ensure that Instagram do not just ignore the whole message, and establish what form such authorisation must take),

2) some examples of Shipspotting images that have already been taken down following complaint (that establishes that there is already a pattern of successful complaints about "ship_spotter68/").  

3) a sizeable schedule of other images stolen from us - Owen, could you please email me ([email protected]) what you already have and I will expand it to (or by) a couple of hundred.

Any thoughts on this suggestion are welcome, as well as the specific help requested above.

David
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on February 24, 2017, 04:19:04 AM
Just to update, I wrote to Instagram on 22/2, enclosing the details of about 460 images stolen by "ship_spotter68", identified from the most recent 1000 or so of his uploads. Received the expected machine response from "Billy", to which I replied, so hopefully it will now get nearer to a real person.  I'll chase if the don't respond in a week.

I am aware that he continues to add stolen ShipSpotting images almost daily, so the schedule is being kept up-to-date.  I can email the current schedule on email request to [email protected]
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Hannes van Rijn on February 25, 2017, 06:34:08 AM
His page is no longer available.
https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotter68/
Thanks for your effort David.

Rgds
Hannes.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: pieter melissen on February 25, 2017, 07:14:24 AM
if the page is no longer available why do I see shipphotos when I click on that link?
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Cody Williams on February 25, 2017, 07:31:57 AM
Unfortunately I think he may have blocked you, Hannes.

Cody
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on February 25, 2017, 10:18:04 AM
if the page is no longer available why do I see shipphotos when I click on that link?
But Hannes .. you'll be pleased to know that our Instagram friend appreciated your Photo of Innovation very much.

If you've ever added a comment about him stealing images, he blocks you and deletes the comment.
I've added the pic to the list of all the stolen images I've spotted recently and will send in another report soon.
I haven't had much luck and have sent this list in several times so far.
It just grows a little more each time.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on May 17, 2017, 11:40:21 PM
Can someone check to see if ship_spotter68 is still showing our photos on Instagram.
I think I'm running out of luck with the idiots at Instagram and haven't been able to get them to delete any pix for a week.
Now when I try to see what he's showing, I just get Sorry, this page isn't available.
But I'm wondering if Instagram have told him my user name and he's blocked me again.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: lappino on May 18, 2017, 01:13:47 AM
Page not available, user does not exist.

So, I guess they've deleted him.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Owen Foley on May 18, 2017, 01:48:40 AM
Thanks ... that indicates he hasn't just blocked me again.

It would be nice if they have taken him off the air but they've been rejecting my reports for a week.
Perhaps he's changed his user name again?
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on May 18, 2017, 07:25:03 AM
Congratulations for your persistence, Owen

Yes, he may well pop up again, though he may need a different ISP to do so.


David
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: albertig on December 09, 2017, 12:34:13 PM
There is a lot of instagram accounts stealing photos and not tagging the author. Just report them to Instagram and they will delete the photo. If they do it again, they'll probably get banned.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Cody Williams on December 10, 2017, 05:25:39 AM
Unless the content is from a large company, Instagram couldn't care less which is deeply frustrating.

Cody
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Pilot Frans on December 10, 2017, 08:15:07 PM
Hope you can give the names of this people albertig.
So everyone can check if one of there photos have been stolen

regards
Frans
ig: pilot_frans
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: miraflores on January 29, 2018, 09:33:33 AM
Hi @ll dear shipspotter.

I found 4060 stolen photos in the Instagram-account by spanish user @perebisa
https://www.instagram.com/perebisa/?hl=de

All the photos were taken from Marinetraffic, but many, many of these photos are also uploaded from Shipspotting-member.

I could manage with 2 reports to Instagram that 85 of my stolen photos were deleted, but that guy continues every day with uploading.

Contact adress of Instagram for only copyright violation or fraud:

Instagram, LLC
Attn: Instagram Designated Agent
1601 Willow Road
Menlo Park, California 94025
650.543.4800 (Telefon)
[email protected]

Rgds. Juergen
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Henk Jungerius on January 30, 2018, 09:07:02 AM
Hallo Owen;
Have checked on google the name shipspotter 68 and find a #shipspotter68 and ships(@shipspotter68) on instagram both active.
Kind Regards
Henk
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: lappino on March 04, 2020, 11:55:42 PM
...aaand we've got another rising star on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotting_greece/
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on March 05, 2020, 11:50:38 AM
Thanks for the heads-up Vlad.
I'll do a bit of data-gathering (but I will be on the move for a few days early next week) and report back here. And have another look at the earlier cases.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on March 14, 2020, 12:43:20 AM
I've PM'd the 17 other members whose shipspotting.com photos were posted on https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotting_greece/ between 1/1/2019 and today - over 300 photos in all - and there are another 9 months uploads in 2018 not yet checked.  Hopefully some at least will follow Vlad's example in making formal complaint and getting them removed.

DAvid
 
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: DEREK SANDS on March 14, 2020, 08:38:00 AM
Unfortunately as soon as one of these copyright infringers is stopped another surfaces. Sometimes the same one with a different account, or on a different website, app etc.
If you place your images on line you always run the risk of them being stolen and re-used, re-posted etc without credit.Mine are appearing everywhere and I have given up worrying about it. The choice is if you want people to see your images then you have to place them on line. Or you can take them and keep them for yourself or an exclusive group of trusted contacts.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Nico.T on June 09, 2020, 06:54:45 PM
It seems like the account of ship_spotting_greece has been deleted.

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: lappino on June 10, 2020, 04:07:33 AM
Instagram has started working according to the new set of rules, disabling accounts with specific number of violations within specific period of time, so maybe it's the case here.
I have reported this account couple of months ago, and Instagram's action was (unexpectedly) quick. Next time I've reported it for the same stealing behavior, Instagram gave me a little more trouble, but still deleted the content I've reported eventually.
It seems to be more difficult for the copyright holder to prove his/her case than it is for the shady instagram account owner to steal the photos, but copyright owners can prevail in the end (like in this case)...
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on June 10, 2020, 11:42:47 AM
That is encouraging news, Vlad and Nico
I will note, for the record, that of the 17 members whom I contacted in March about this Instagram account only one ever replied - though others may of course have complained without letting us know.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: rd77 on June 10, 2020, 12:37:30 PM
Good to hear Vlad! That Greek kid was stealing ALL your pics and passing them off as his own.

Cheers,
Ralph
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Nico.T on September 20, 2020, 10:12:31 AM
And the game goes on...

https://www.instagram.com/ship_spotting_greece_/
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Bob Scott on September 20, 2020, 11:04:39 AM
15-year-old kid, this one. Seems to like Dennis Mortimer's photos
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on September 20, 2020, 02:17:32 PM
Last time, following the encouraging news from Lappino (see below), I listed 300 photos that I could find that he had lifted from ShipSpotting over 15 months from 1/1/2019 (there may well have been a couple of hundred earlier ones), and informed all 17 members.  Only one even bothered to reply.   But it may well be that it was complaints from those two members that led to the "ship_spotting_greece" account being closed.

There are only 159 photos on his new account "ship_spotting_greece_" (note the added "_")
Now is the time to nip him in the bud.  I will help if asked, but I am not going to spend a lot of time again indexing them for members who don't want to do anything.

Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: pieter melissen on September 20, 2020, 08:26:14 PM
David, I would never notice if one of my pictures was on Instagram. You could have mailed me about (but I don't think you did), but I would not be bothered to have a look at Instagram in the first place. I have dropped the use of social media completely.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: davidships on September 21, 2020, 10:17:43 AM
Indeed, most people wouldn't notice, which is why I spent time on it.  As I said, I emailed all those members whose photos I identified on that, now deleted, account. Of those all but one didn't bother to reply, even to say that they didn't care.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: Riverman2903 on September 21, 2020, 12:46:11 PM
Indeed, most people wouldn't notice, which is why I spent time on it.  As I said, I emailed all those members whose photos I identified on that, now deleted, account. Of those all but one didn't bother to reply, even to say that they didn't care.

David, I would say members didn't care (although some won't). It's more a case of trying to push water up a hill in fighting copyright/'stolen images' with the social media giants. If this latest 15 year old has his account closed then he simply opens a new account a few minutes later unless Instagram block his ISP and even then he can simply move to a mobile devise. So until the big boys in the industry start taking this seriously then I fear all your hard work is simply wasted and I know you will have plenty of serious research to occupy your time with. I have been in a number of Facebook groups where I have raised the issue of copyright with both the group administrators, Facebook, and the individuals who have posted what I know to be a copyright image and frankly the responses have ranged from rudeness to indifference so I am afraid it is the very negative side to the world of modern technology/communications that we have to live with and perhaps any future efforts to track down the image stealers should to be left to the individual owners of the original and make that crystal clear. Just a thought.   
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: simonwp on September 21, 2020, 05:06:40 PM
Got to say I agree with Riverman. I post a lot of photographs on FB, not so many on here now, and I accept that there is a good chance that someone will steal them at some point. I post for my enjoyment, and that of others, and accept the risks that go with it. I don't think you'll ever stop it now, the genie is out of the bottle, in some ways it's flattering if someone thinks your photographs are worth stealing. It's got to be worth considering if trying to push back against this anymore is worthwhile. If I have a photograph that I really want to keep the copyright of, I wouldn't post it on the internet.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: pieter melissen on September 22, 2020, 07:32:35 AM
Perhaps we could introduce the software that is being used at "nok-schiffbilder".  There is no way that you can download any of their published pictures.
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: lappino on September 22, 2020, 08:53:42 AM
Can't download, but can make a screenshot as easy as anything, so those who really want it, will find a way...
Title: Re: Stolen photos on Instagram
Post by: solentships on September 23, 2020, 03:12:43 PM
Perhaps we could introduce the software that is being used at "nok-schiffbilder".  There is no way that you can download any of their published pictures.

Wouldn't do any good I'm afraid. A quick look says all they are doing is including oncontextmenu="return false" to disable the right-click menu. You can circumvent this easily.

If they have other measures in place, which I doubt, they can be overcome if you put your mind to it.