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Title: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Captain Ted on September 23, 2015, 02:38:01 pm
Re: Mystery section and deletions

The rules should be really amended in the Mystery section, special as long the picture meets the site standards. It makes absolutely no sense that it is deleted after one year special when very often it is the only picture of the vessel on the site.
Seems we are still in the motion of plenty pictures of big boxers which create plenty hits, which is seemingly the most important part by now and no attention to diversity whatsoever.
Really I don,t get it anymore what thinking and or reasoning is behind that.
capt ted



Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Phil English on September 23, 2015, 02:55:01 pm
As has been discussed recently (including contributions by yourself, I believe), this rule is under review, along with many other things.

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Captain Ted on September 23, 2015, 02:57:45 pm
Hi Phil
thanks
Well,,since it is under review,,may be then it should be stopped deleting them automatic until new rules are in force ?


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Phil English on September 23, 2015, 03:14:33 pm
Ted,

May I suggest that you take it up with Derek Sands directly, please.

Brgds
Phil



Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: dirk septer on September 24, 2015, 05:15:42 am
Totally agree with Capt. Ted. Why delete these pics when apart from being a mystery vessel (i.e. have the name missing) that do meet all other site requirements.
To me these photos are unique and more interesting and giving other members a challenge to identify them.
Why allow/keep literally hundreds and hundreds of photos of the same boring cruise ship, but delete these usually single/only photo of that particular vessel.

Just today I had five mystery vessels deleted.

How can I access/retrieve the data and comments etc. going with these (especially date of photo). If I have that date, I can retrieve the exposure out of my 50,000++ photos and in some cases re-post the deleted pics, now with the actual name.  


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: DEREK SANDS on September 24, 2015, 06:16:47 am
Hi Capt. Ted and Dirk,

There will be a temporary halt on auto deletion of still unidentified images from mystery ships that are more than a year old.This will remain in force over the period of review of the site standards

best regards

Derek


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: dirk septer on September 25, 2015, 05:12:55 am
Since this rule is under review and there will be a temporary halt on deletion of still unidentified images from mystery ships, I had yesterday in one swoop 5 of my photos removed that otherwise meet all other requirements?

How can I access the data (especially the date of posting) of these deleted images?

Dirk


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: DEREK SANDS on September 25, 2015, 07:18:54 am
Hi Dirk,

I will ask Henrik if he has this information "backed up".

best regards

Derek


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Captain Ted on September 25, 2015, 11:52:41 am
Hi Derek

thanks for you efforts, much appreciated

brgds
capt ted


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Ilhan Kermen on September 26, 2015, 03:40:00 am
Hi Dirk
I never hasty about photo deletions.Actually i am so slow.
if you check latest page of mystery ships category
You will see some your photos added on September 03, 2014
It means your removed 5 photos older than 13-14 months

You may see some mystery photos removed by me last day.
maybe you may recognize your photos ?



Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: dirk septer on September 26, 2015, 05:17:25 am
Yes, some of those shown are indeed some of my deleted pics.

But how can I access/retrieve the data (especially date of posting and location) of these pics?

And again I ask, while deleting of mystery photos is under review and temporary halted,
my mystery photos (five in recent days) are still being deleted?


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Nick Smith on September 27, 2015, 02:33:13 am
The last pilot boat down the bottom looks like it is from Port Jackson or Port Botany.


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: dirk septer on September 27, 2015, 05:03:38 pm
Yes, some of those shown are indeed some of my deleted pics.

But how can I access/retrieve the data (especially date of posting and location) of these pics?

And again I ask, while deleting of mystery photos is under review and temporary halted,
my mystery photos (five in recent days) are still being deleted?


Still waiting for an answer on my two questions.....


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: DEREK SANDS on September 27, 2015, 08:31:13 pm
If the image and data is still backed up then it is available. I will ask Henrik.

There should be no further deletions in Mystery ships for the time being. I presume that
yours were deleted whilst we were in process of ensuring all admins knew about this temporary moratorium.

best regards

Derek


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: dirk septer on October 29, 2015, 05:22:31 am
Given the fact that the photo admin notes that he is never hasty about photo deletions,
that right on the day it is announced that the deletion of mystery ships is under review with a temporary halt on the deletion of these photos remaining unidentified after one year or so, I had in one swoop five of my mystery ships removed.

Why this sudden haste to quickly remove them before the deadline of the temporary halt?



Also given the fact that another Photo admin was so rude to tell me earlier:
"Find somewhere else to post your amateurish photos. Do us all a favour and don't hang
around too long."

This really makes me wonder about the objectivity of the photo admins on Shipspotting.

Having posted over 5,400 photos on this site, I certainly don't expect such rude comments
from a Photo Admin; such comments are totally unwarranted on a site which claims to
maintain the highest standards.

As members on this site should expect to be treated with respect, this Photo Admin should either publicly apologize or resign.

Dirk Septer







Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Allan RO on October 29, 2015, 01:42:52 pm
Dirk

I can not understand why you need to retrieve information on your photographs from Ship Spotting, surely you have this information on your own computer.

Allan


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: dirk septer on October 29, 2015, 04:41:14 pm
Allan,

I take some 10,000-20,000 photographs a year (not all of ships) at many different locations and ports around the world. Some of the posted/deleted mystery ships may go back up to 10
years ago. Would you remember the date and place (and exact location of stored media) of each of those photos? Well, I don't.

It takes the Photo Admin a second to delete a photo, but may take me many hours to locate
the date and location where taken (and where stored).

I will also lose all the details I noted and possible responses by our members. All gone
forever!


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Pier Master on October 29, 2015, 05:26:22 pm
Personally I think it is prudent for the photographer/member to know what he is taking a photograph of to be able to post it here. If not, it is purely a, (holiday), snap shot, and not for this site. Also it should not be for a third party to store details/records of members photographs, that is for the photographer/member to do themselves... just my opinion.

Regards, Brian, AKA The Pier Master.


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Allan RO on October 29, 2015, 06:56:19 pm
Sirk

I keep a record on a database, used to be in notebooks, of every photo I take. I can tell you the date and place of every photo I have taken since around 1970. Very simple.  It really is your responsibility to keep records of your photos.

Allan


Title: Re: Mystery ships and deletion after 1 year or so
Post by: Jim McQuarrie on October 29, 2015, 07:55:59 pm
Go to My Photos then deleted photos Voila!