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Title: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Ron' Breizh on September 21, 2013, 11:29:41 pm
Hello guys!

As you can see in the following link, the website marinetraffic.com will change its interface soonest with more ads, some tariffs following subscribed services, no possibility to put the map on full screen mode, no automatic refresh of the map if you are not registered...etc

http://new.marinetraffic.com/en/p/plans (http://new.marinetraffic.com/en/p/plans)

Nothing is free in this world!

Bad news...  >:(

Regards,

Ron


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Fergal Clohessy on September 22, 2013, 07:15:32 am
3229 per annum for the full package!! ???


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Sinisa Aljinovic on September 22, 2013, 07:35:06 am
What I noticed they have invested lot of money on AIS receivers and equipment around the world.Although ,there are lot of volunteers who send their AIS data with their own equipment they built the largest network so far.Unfortunatelly telecoms charges excess traffic plus maintenance etc.Once project at university became a business.I hope that at least those who submit AIS data have free access.
I am afraid that this ship spotting site could turn into pay site in near future.Just imagine how much traffic daily passes through the server. :'(


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Ron' Breizh on September 22, 2013, 09:10:41 am
Yes I agree with you Sinisa about free access for people who transmit their AIS datas. I'm disapointed, I made at least one connexion per day on this website!
As Fergal said, tariff for the full package is so expensive!


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: chrisg46 on September 22, 2013, 09:29:28 am
Sorry, gentlemen, but I can't see it affecting the way I use it much, myself. The only time the updating frequency is important to me is when I'm tracking a vessel inbound to film it, so I'll just have to give myself a few extra minutes to jump in the car.

If I were using it professionally, I'd expect to pay whatever fee I needed to, to use the system in the way that I wanted too, so I suppose that if you are using it recreationally, but in a professional way, as I'd expect you are, I'd expect to pay, too . . . sorry.

Registration seems a small thing for what you get for free, anyway.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mike on September 22, 2013, 05:31:57 pm
Any idea how they are looking after those who supply data to them ?
I've given them free data for years .. They'd better look after me now or i'll pull the plug !


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mike on September 22, 2013, 05:41:20 pm
I wonder what they will do regarding the smart phone apps ?
Although a small amount , 1000s have paid 2.49 to access this !
Apple wont be happy if they charge "x" amount and then limit the service


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Ron' Breizh on September 22, 2013, 05:47:30 pm
No idea Mike, sorry! But I think that you can send an e-mail at info@marinetraffic.com to know exactly what it will happen for the users who transmit datas (e-mail found in the terms of use).

Regards,

Ron


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: miraflores on September 22, 2013, 06:12:20 pm
This is what I get for serving AIS-datas from the Kiel Canal

http://oi40.tinypic.com/24pi2bq.jpg

Rgds.
Juergen


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Tony1 on September 24, 2013, 12:31:00 am
There hasnt been any update to the marine traffic app for ages....im wondering how the new site will effect the iphone app


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Robert J Smith on September 24, 2013, 05:36:36 pm
There's a preview of the new site on the old site, does that work on the app?

Also, as a shipspotter, I don't think the five minute delay on the free site will worry me too much.

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mark T on September 24, 2013, 06:20:05 pm
What I noticed they have invested lot of money on AIS receivers and equipment around the world.Although ,there are lot of volunteers who send their AIS data with their own equipment they built the largest network so far.Unfortunatelly telecoms charges excess traffic plus maintenance etc.Once project at university became a business.I hope that at least those who submit AIS data have free access.
I am afraid that this ship spotting site could turn into pay site in near future.Just imagine how much traffic daily passes through the server. :'(

Agree with you Sinisa but we can ask admins about that-
Admins........ how big are chances that this web-site will not be free?
Hope that this are just rumors, right?


Cheers Mark


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: D.M.G on September 24, 2013, 06:54:44 pm
It will still be free , 5mins refresh time it's not too much, currently it's about 3-4 mins
And also for those who give data to them , they all get pro plan for free.
Let's be serious , it costs a lot to run all that!


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: lappino on September 26, 2013, 02:06:15 pm
Well, as long as I'll still be able to upload vessels photos for free, it's OK...

(So far I only have, like, 18,000 or something...)  ;D


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Kelvin Davies on September 26, 2013, 02:58:09 pm
I registered from the free version and have to say I have no complaints.
The 'vessel details' pop-up is better than the original version.
The panel on the left with the display options etc can be displayed or hidden.
Pretty good overall.
Kelvin


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: SynthiaOuimet on September 27, 2013, 06:40:18 am
dont rely on any particular app as it keeps on changing everytime


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Robert Smith on September 27, 2013, 06:54:56 am
I registered, using my e-mail address and issued a password.
Each time I try to log in, the site is telling me that there is an error.
Resetting password does not help. Any other members encoutering this problem ?

Rgds,
Robert.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Kelvin Davies on September 27, 2013, 08:06:39 am
I just tried it with no problems. Logged in immediately.
Kelvin


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Keith Bassett on September 27, 2013, 09:29:11 am
Hi,
I'm having the same problem as Robert.Have tried severel times without success.
Best wishes
Keith Bassett


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: peeneore on September 27, 2013, 08:53:42 pm
I am not worried about the 5 minute delay. The problem I have with the new site is that they plan only to allow a "My fleet" number of 5 vessels. At the moment I have close to 1000 listed in My Fleet...


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Robert Smith on September 28, 2013, 01:44:55 pm
Tried once more and now it works properly. I can live with the 5 minutes interval.

Rgds,
 :)


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: lappino on October 10, 2013, 03:16:57 pm
New site made uploading photos more awkward (= slower) than before: vessel's name & type do not appear in the fields, and it is more time consuming to check the uploading date...

"Photos uploaded" in "My account" is completely unreadable...

Anyway, will need some time to adjust to it...



Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mark T on October 14, 2013, 09:32:24 am
Hello,

Am I only one who has troubles with Marinetraffic these days?


Cheers


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Kelvin Davies on October 14, 2013, 10:26:42 am
No problems this morning.
Tomorrow is supposed to be the day the new site launches.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mike on October 15, 2013, 01:50:30 pm
Tried once more and now it works properly. I can live with the 5 minutes interval.

Rgds,
 :)


Hi Robert

Whats your secret to register, I also tried six times today and up comes 'Opps and error has been made'

In the 'personal information section' other than you name and address, age  and post code am I missing something as I have one square spare??.

Also clicking everything else and filling it in?

Not the easiest place to register up to now!!


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: greatlakespow on October 15, 2013, 02:19:59 pm
i cant even see the icons no more on marine traffic i have to click show ship names and even then i cant click on it with out a hassel wonder whats going on ???


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Keith Bassett on October 15, 2013, 02:35:34 pm
Hi, the only trouble I have is keeping my login details.If I delete history,I have to type it all in again.This does n't happen on shipspotting,it will always remember my login info.Anyone got any ideas?
Many thanks
Keith


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mike on October 15, 2013, 06:54:50 pm
Hello,

Am I only one who has troubles with Marinetraffic these days?
Cheers

Hi Mark

No your not, I have tried everything most of the day and all I get is the Error sign.
The problem is it does not tell you what you have done wrong

I assume for the SMS you put in your mobile number and country code for UK I put 0044.

Filled out name and address and all * items, e-mail address,password etc.

As I am retired I clicked 'line of business' 'other'
For 'relation to ships' I clicked 'sport' as I am a yachtsman

Any one tell me what I am doing wrong


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Robert Smith on October 15, 2013, 08:17:59 pm
Hi Mike,

The spare square indicates the type of subscription. You should fill in "basic".
Then another space pops-up for the expiry date where you should put "never".

Good luck,
Robert.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Captain Kernow on October 15, 2013, 08:26:32 pm
Evening shipspotters , my marinetraffic page has not changed at all, even after the 15th update , everything is the same with no change, just wondering when the bombshell will arrive when I log on tomorrow maybe ?


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: BR_Reef on October 15, 2013, 09:22:33 pm
What operating system are you running ?


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: ChasB46 on October 15, 2013, 09:41:29 pm
I've had no trouble at all since the original announcement of change to free. Always been able to log in within 2 secs automatically with password etc saved in Lastpass. (Windows 7 Pro 64 bit+Firefox)


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Allan RO on October 16, 2013, 08:24:16 am
no probs using Firefox, log in straight away

Allan


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: miraflores on October 16, 2013, 08:36:35 am
Have you tried the new adress?

http://new.marinetraffic.com/

As far as I know are both sites running because of problems (transitation to the new site)

rgds.

Juergen


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mark T on October 16, 2013, 09:14:52 am
Hi Jurgen,

I tried new site, but I like older more.
On my Ipad there is old website and on computer is new website at the same time.

Cheers


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2013, 10:15:42 am
Hi Mike,

The spare square indicates the type of subscription. You should fill in "basic".
Then another space pops-up for the expiry date where you should put "never".

Good luck,
Robert.

Hi Robert

I guess I am doing something wrong??

I put in my e-mail address
Then password (twice)
then my name & address
I put in 0044 above 'country calling code
I click and add 'age'
I put in 'basic' above SMS alerts
I put in 'Sports' for proffession
I put in 'boater. for what is your relationship to ships
I Click 'terms'
then register

Where am I going wrong ????


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: miraflores on October 16, 2013, 11:57:36 am
@Mike

I think you are registered in the "Old Marinetraffic" as well?

If yes, do you use the same eMail-Adress and the same password? 

Rgds.
Juergen


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Pilot Frans on October 16, 2013, 12:17:18 pm
The old is gone, but the new one is so slow  :'(



Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: ridgerunner on October 16, 2013, 01:38:08 pm
It's either so slow or not working full stop, Keep getting a 503 error or it takes an age to load an times out.

Hopefully teething problems that will be resolved.

Rob



Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Richard Paton on October 16, 2013, 02:04:00 pm
It's always the same another website tinkered with and changed for the worse. The 5 minute delay doesn't bother me as there was always a slight "lag" wih AIS anyway.

The members log in button also has a habit of disappearing to annoyingly....:(


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2013, 02:33:29 pm
@Mike

I think you are registered in the "Old Marinetraffic" as well?

If yes, do you use the same eMail-Adress and the same password? 

Rgds.
Juergen

Hi Juergen

Many thanks you may well have been right as I have finally got registered, however agree with others the site is very slow and keeps going off.

I have been trying to track the Enquest Producer from Hamburg to our river the Tyne as she is due at 09.45 in the morning with Odin Viking and Smit Angola towing her

Early days but Now a happy Bunny :)

Regards Mike


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mark T on October 16, 2013, 06:46:46 pm
The old is gone, but the new one is so slow  :'(



Frans, i guess it's because they are running two websites at once.
By time that problem will be fixed!


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Nick Smith on October 18, 2013, 02:06:01 am
I still have the old one here in Australia and it works fine.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: ridgerunner on October 18, 2013, 04:49:41 pm
I see it has reverted to the old one here as well so perhaps more than just teething troubles!

Rob


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: lappino on October 19, 2013, 01:51:16 am
They may have reverted, but there's something funny going on with the database: "Marie Maersk" was (finally) amended with correct data, but now I see she's back as "Mary"...

But, this is all secondary, as I keep getting the error message...:(


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Kelvin Davies on October 19, 2013, 06:04:13 am
I just tried it and it found Marie Maersk, IMO 9619933 and Mary Maersk, IMO 9619921, currently in Antwerp


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Andrew McAlpine on October 19, 2013, 06:18:55 am
Just tried it also and all seems ok Mary showing in Antwer & Marie in Okpo.

rgds
Andrew


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: lappino on October 19, 2013, 09:45:47 am
This is a conspiracy, I'm telling you!

 ;D

Search for "Marie Maersk" redirects to "Mary"...at least on my computer.

Edit: while AIS correctly shows Marie where she should be... :)


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Jackdusty on October 19, 2013, 12:09:08 pm
At 1300Z today am unable to even get into marinetraffic.com . After the 15th it was still showing the old format. What happened to the new format as advertised to happen October 15th?


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Robert J Smith on October 19, 2013, 01:05:47 pm
At 1300Z today am unable to even get into marinetraffic.com . After the 15th it was still showing the old format. What happened to the new format as advertised to happen October 15th?

Old & new working OK here in UK using Google Chrome.

Are you using the new website address?

http://new.marinetraffic.com/

Regards

Bob


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Jackdusty on October 19, 2013, 01:21:57 pm
Hi Bob,
The old site is not coming up but I was able to register on the new site a few days ago. I can't get into it today for reasons unknown. I'll keep trying till I succeed.

Regards

Al   (aka-Jackdusty)
Nova Scotia


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Kelvin Davies on October 19, 2013, 07:25:36 pm
Jack,
Both old and new are still working for me.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Mark T on October 23, 2013, 07:16:44 pm
Today I was having troubles with marinetraffic.
I was logged in but when I tried to add Wilson Dover to my fleet i couldn't because it says Please log in...................but I am logged in?

Cheers


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: miraflores on October 24, 2013, 07:18:34 am
Try to Log Out and then Log In again.
The Log In should be saved but I think it's a bug.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Tony1 on October 25, 2013, 11:36:25 pm
I think its a case of updating to much i personally prefer the old one as i get a full screen of map when copared to the new one i only get half a screen of map and the other half of adverts, i now am using the ship finder maps for watching stuff around the solent, but i use marine traffic for logging where ships have arrived from which is difficult if the data only goes back 24 hours for a non subscriber!!


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: lappino on November 19, 2013, 01:50:39 pm
Well, now they did the right thing and "upgraded" me to PRO plan - and I was just thinking of suggesting them myself that they do it (half joking!), having in mind all the photos I uploaded there...


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Keith Bassett on November 21, 2013, 03:20:47 pm
As regards"miraflores" remarks,as long as I don't switch off computer I can log in again.If I switch off computer,I have to type in log in details again.I have contacted them on this,and am waiting for reply.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 06, 2013, 03:36:52 pm
Hi Ken, & all of you fellow shipspotters. Just went yo my site & am unable to get anything. Been around shipspotting for years & completely satisfied with the free access i,ve had to this beautiful site for us older seamen. I can,t afford any monthly payments to have site but according to KEN i,m supposed to have some access for free. What has happened here if that is so? Would greatly appr. reply asap to where i go from here as it would be a deep empty pit to miss the comadre of this site which has become part of my life.  "SNOCKY"


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Phil English on December 06, 2013, 04:23:34 pm
Sorry Snocky, I don't understand. This thread is dedicated to the changes which occurred to marinetraffic.com, a site completely unrelated to shipspotting.com.

Which site are you having trouble accessing? If it's shipspotting.com (which is this site) there have been no changes whatsoever to free access - if you are experiencing difficulties it is more than likely an issue with browser settings your end. Perhaps try a different browser, for example.

if you are having difficulties with Marine traffic, then I suggest that you contact them directly.

Brgds
Phil




Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 06, 2013, 04:33:44 pm
Thanks Phil. I.m not much upon computers but don,t even know how to contact ais traffick. Would appr. a reply to find their contact as i,m registered with them as free member & have been for years with no problems until this morning when on opening site am unable to get map.


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 06, 2013, 06:42:39 pm
Thanks Ken. Have sent 2 emails to them but no response. I really appreciate your reply & hope we are able to get site back. God Bless & keep up good work. "snocky"


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 06, 2013, 08:08:22 pm
Ken, haven,t been able to access any ships since this morning. Am a registered free access member with them. site comes on with world map but no ships showing. Thanks "SNOCKY"


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Fred Vloo on December 06, 2013, 08:58:06 pm

Not sure, but maybe they changed their URL. Are u using this one?

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home  This should be the right URL.

Cheers Fred


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 06, 2013, 09:28:24 pm
Thanks Fred. Am using that site, same as i always have, My vessel list comes up but main page has whole world map, but no vessels showing at all. Site shows my registration & name & i don,t know what to do. Am not much of a computer person but it was working perfect all along. Below left side refresh is continuing to run & when at zero it starts all over again. Maybe they are trying to get rid of old salties like me because we can,t afford to pay. Site says my limited access is free forever. "SNOCKY"


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 06, 2013, 09:38:05 pm
Fred, thought you retired from site , as i sure miss your "professional" videos.Sure hope your,e well & soon give us fans another great one. "SNOCKY"


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Fred Vloo on December 06, 2013, 09:39:49 pm
I'm also a free user, I'm Dutch :-)
what happens when you scroll into your harbour of interest? Or type in a vessel of your interest on the top right?



Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Fred Vloo on December 06, 2013, 09:42:21 pm
I'll be back Snocky. Just unemployed since a year. I'll pick my trips to Rotterdam very carefully.  ;D


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: snocky on December 07, 2013, 12:10:43 am
Thanks Ken. Had word from ais & it works the opposite from what you say. I,ve always stayed logged in & have never had a problem only started today. Now when i log out site works perfectly. Don,t understand, but they are working on it for me now. It sure is great to have this site with so many people like myself, you , fred & so many others able to help us as we age with this younger generation technology to try & cope with. Will let you know what the problem was & still is when i find out. God Bless, "SNOCKY"


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Richard Paton on February 18, 2014, 11:02:30 pm
Tonight i have appeared to have gone back to the old Marinetraffic site, i can't say im upset, in fact i'm delighted - the old site is FAR superior to the new beast.

I bet it's only temporary though... :(


Title: Re: The end of marinetraffic.com for free?
Post by: Richard Paton on February 19, 2014, 01:31:35 pm
Hi Ken

Yes as predicted it was short lived back to the new one this morning, guess it was a small gremlin at MT HQ!

Agree with you Ken sometimes the photos take an eternity to load if at all...

Cheers
Richard