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Title: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Robert J Smith on January 05, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
Events around the UK.

RN ship visits to London & Londonderry & an International fleet at Liverpool

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/News-and-Events/Special-Events/Battle-of-the-Atlantic

Regards

Bob
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: GWR52 on April 10, 2013, 01:34:11 PM
TWENTY-FIVE warships from the UK and 10 other nations will attend the 70th anniversary and final national commemoration of the Battle of the Atlantic in Liverpool for the bank holiday weekend on May 24-28, 2013.
The Event's multi-national fleet will represent Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Russia, and the US. There will be 15 Royal Navy warships.

THREE warships are planned for London. -  HMS ILLUSTRIOUS (at Greenwich Pier), HMS EDINBURGH (alongside HMS Belfast) and HMS BLYTH (alongside RNR President) are rumoured.

Regards
George
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: samson46 on April 10, 2013, 05:45:46 PM
Will the Deutsche Marine be sending a submarine? ;D
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: BarrySmith on April 10, 2013, 06:02:45 PM
I would like to pass your joke on to my grandfather but he was lost when his ship was torpedoed by a German submarine in the North Atlantic.
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Dave Forbes on April 12, 2013, 12:10:57 PM
Looks like quite a gathering of grey funnel line at Liverpool for this fantastic anniversary , I might make plans!
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Kelvin Davies on April 12, 2013, 02:47:24 PM
Derry...Over 70% of the local people call it Derry..
Just like Bombay is called Mumbai.
Coz the locals call it this..
therefore as a courtesy to the locals who live there.
The name of the city is Derry.
In deference to the majority Nationalist population.
Ozzy,
The Royal Navy records all relate to Londonderry. The 'legal name' is Londonderry.
So it is Londonderry.
Unless you want to make a political point. In which case, take it elsewhere.
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Robert J Smith on April 12, 2013, 04:38:50 PM
Will the Deutsche Marine be sending a submarine? ;D

According to the Seawaves website, they are sending U-3 (S18).

Regards

Bob
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Robert Smith on April 12, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
Ozzy76,

Mumbai is the official Indian name of the city formerly known as Bombay.
Derry is a local name of the city known around the world as Londonderry.
Don't be daft: you wouldn't make this statement if you knew what Derry means in Dutch ....

 >:(
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: ozzy76 on April 13, 2013, 12:25:34 PM
 Well I'm intrigued to know what it means in Dutch.
In Gaelic Doire . means OAk grove
Which is rather more Poetic than the angliced version.
As for the International name,.
With over 6 million Irish in Britain, 30 Million Irish Americans..Your claim is meaningless.
The Irish , have always referred to the fourth Largest city on the island as Derry.
And I'm afraid it's the locals, who get to decide these matter.
A rather better view, I have obtained from the local paper.
Even The Royal Navy Offical site uses BOTH names.In deference.

Anyhow the main point is that people enjoy their visit to the city, The year 2013 is a milestone year, as there are Many cultural events to see and do.
The Fleadh Ceol, will be in town http://www.fleadhcheoil.ie/
For those interested in Culture as well as ships.

Here's a link to rthe Derry Journal.
Re: the name.
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/local/what-s-in-a-name-1-2141016
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: samson46 on April 13, 2013, 04:21:48 PM
Ozzy: Please take Kelvin's advice and go make your petty political points somewhere else!
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: ozzy76 on April 13, 2013, 08:27:12 PM
 ;D
Not Politics
read the Port history of this ship.
Enough said I think. ;D

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1749558

It quite clearly states that on July 16th 2012.....Derry.
I thank you.
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Robert Smith on April 14, 2013, 10:05:13 PM
Ozzy,

You overlook the fact this is an international site and the official port names should be used to avoid confusion, especially for the vast majority of non-irish residents. Would you like it if I refer to Mokum, Rotjeknor or Signorenstad instead of their official names ? Leave it up to you to figure out which ports are meant here.....

Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: davidships on April 14, 2013, 11:26:35 PM
As Robert says, since the vessels in question will be visiting the port, it seems logical to use the official name of the port - Londonderry
http://www.londonderryport.com/index.htm

The names used for the city itself at different times and for different purposes is irrelevant to this website.  But worth noting that it is well described in the current version of the Wikipedia page (though it could get vandalised at any moment)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry/Londonderry_name_dispute
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Alan Green on May 06, 2013, 08:14:13 AM
HMS Edinburgh is showing as due TBU on 07.05.13 and HMS Blyth as due alongside President on 07.05.13.
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Robert J Smith on May 06, 2013, 08:34:10 AM
And Illustrious on the 8th at Greenwich

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/News-and-Events/Latest-News/2013/May/03/130503-RN-ships-BOA-London-visits#.UYOY5jxvN5s.twitter

Regards

Bob
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Alan Green on May 13, 2013, 08:36:58 PM
HMS Edinburgh and HMS Blyth departed as scheduled. The departure of HMS Illustrious has been delayed until 0400 hrs on Tuesday 14.05.13 due to high winds. Apparently it is anticipated that Illustrious will be passing Gravesend at approx. 0600 hrs.
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Kelvin Davies on May 13, 2013, 11:22:02 PM
Does anybody have any idea about the plans for Liverpool?
I know 21 ships of a multitude of different nations are due to arrive beginning 23rd May but I was wondering about times, berths etc.
Kelvin
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Alan Green on May 14, 2013, 12:25:03 PM
Hi Kelvin,

I found this:

http://afloat.ie/port-news/naval-visits/item/21726-mersey-naval-parade-farewell-cruise-to-commemorate-battle-of-the-atlantic

Regards,

Alan
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Jon Godsell on May 14, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
HMS Edinburgh will be berthed in Cammell Lairds wet basin which will be open to the public.

Three will be on the stage plus THV Patricia, the rest will in various docks with HMS Bulwark in Canada I expect.

JG
Title: Re: 70th anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic events
Post by: Kelvin Davies on May 14, 2013, 02:57:18 PM
Thanks Alan & Jon.
I am not too sure about the reference to the Albert & Canning docks in the news article.
How are the locks there these days? I know some of them are filled in and others are very narrow. Mind you, I suppose minesweepers could get in there.
I wonder how many ships will end up on the Birkenhead side? There's absolute acres of unused space there. I suppose they would be looking for security though and there's none of that in Birkenhead; all the docks are open.
I think it will be Perch Rock for the departure then!
Cheers
Kelvin